Linux-Misc Digest #690, Volume #18 Tue, 19 Jan 99 08:13:15 EST
Contents:
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Allan Olesen)
cpio truncating inode numbers (John Coll)
Re: HELP 2.2.0pre7 (Thomas Huber)
LINUX & Encryption technology (Lidia Pierce)
Re: Linux seeing DOS partition (Ingo Assenmacher)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Network Video Broadcast (not conference) Available? (David Steuber)
Re: Samba and file permissions... (Marius Bezuidenhout)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Stephen R. Savitzky)
xhost Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUX & Encryption technology ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Beowulf Anyone? (David Steuber)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Allen Versfeld)
Re: Re: no ctrl-M in terminal (Robert Heller)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan Olesen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:35:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gert Wollny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Say the script to mount the cdrom is called m and goes like this:
>>>start
>#!/bin/sh
># assuming the fstab entry to mount /dev/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom
>mount /mnt/cdrom
>cd /mnt/cdrom
><<end
>then you need two keystrokes <m>+<ENTER> to get to the root directory of
>the CDRom.
>In DOS you need three:
><d>+<:>+<ENTER> #assuming d as the letter for your CDROM
>And the winner by one keystroke is linuuuux!
So what? I can also make a batch file under dos which does the same.
And I will use a lot less typing to create that file than you did
creating your file.
>
>And for the unmounting:
>
>script u:
>>>start
>#!/bin/sh
>cd
>umount /mnt/cdrom
>eject
><<end
>makes two keystrokes, which is comparable to pressing the eject button
>of the
>cd-drive.
Well, dos don't have an eject function. You win that one. But on the
other hand, you don't need to unmount in dos. And that counts if you
don't use scripts - which leads me to:
I think it is a PITA that you have to write your own scripts for linux
to make simple functions operate as easy as in dos.
--
Allan Olesen
"Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue."
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From: John Coll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cpio truncating inode numbers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:34:20 +0000
We have some 9G hard disks which use inode numbers > 1000000. When using
cpio it reports "truncating inode number".
How can I make cpio archive silently - as I run it with -v to get a
record of the files it has processed and all the error messages in there
make the resultant log file useless.
Does it matter if cpio truncates the inode numbers? Will it affect the
restore in any way? I guess not since I assume that the restore will be
done by filename not inode number.
I have read all the docs I can find but no mention of this specific
error from cpio. Any help would be much appreciated. If possible could
you email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have suggestions. thanks.
john
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Huber)
Subject: Re: HELP 2.2.0pre7
Date: 19 Jan 1999 12:37:27 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Barry Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am having a major probleming compiling kernel 2.2.0pre7 and I have
> never had any problem with previous kernels. When compiling I get the
> followingf messages:
>
> checksum.c:200: redefinition of 'csum_partial_copy'
> checksum.c :105: 'csum_partial_copy' previously defined here
I have exactly the same problem. Up to 2.1.131 I didn't have any
problems (gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.46)
Thomas
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From: Lidia Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX & Encryption technology
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:27:22 -0500
Hi this may be a dumb question, I want FTP files accross the internet
from an NT box to my LINUX box with regularity. My concern is
security. I want to encrypt the data but don't know of any tools to do
this.
Can anyone help me out ?
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From: Ingo Assenmacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux seeing DOS partition
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:39:46 +0100
Hi Troy,
you could try using fuser (man fuser for more details) to figure out
what is currently using your resource.
regards, Ingo.
Troy Davidson wrote:
>
> I have a DOS partition on my HD and wanted Linux to see it so I did:
>
> mkdir /mnt/win98
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win98
>
> This worked, but when I restarted Linux, it wouldn't go to the
> partition. And it would say that it was busy or already mounted when I
> would try and remount it.
>
> Any ideas would help. Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:46:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 18 Jan 1999 22:04:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree) wrote:
>No, a Word Processor, a Spreadsheet, A Presentation tool, a Vector-based
>drawing tool, a Web Browser, an E-Mail reader, a News Reader, a File
>manager, a Desktop-manager (It's own desktop), a program launcher (has a
>"Start" menu and taskbar), a window manager (for its own use...has 4
>themes built in, MacOS, Win9X, OS/2, and MWM), an Image editor, and...do
>you get the picture?
Ok that's true, I was a bit provocative.
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network Video Broadcast (not conference) Available?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:02:55 -0500
Patrick Shomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> I've checked out vic and other mbone tools for Linux, but they seem to
-> all take advantage of the Quickcam for Video Conferencing. The nv tool
-> looks like a winner (can operate in recvOnly mode for the client), but
-> again everything is based around the QuickCam.
Where can I get these? Is source available?
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From: Marius Bezuidenhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Samba and file permissions...
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:43:55 +0200
Under the resource you want to modify in the /etc/smb.conf file insert this
"
[my_resource]
create mask = 0660 # This is for the files
directory mask = 0770 # This is for the directories
"
It can also be a good idea to insert:
"
follow symlinks = no
"
Unfortunately I can't help you with your case problem at this time.
"Ryan C. Payne, BSN, RN" wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> Another strange question: Say I have a file with the permissions
> set at -rw-r--r--. I open in on my windows 98 machine, make some changes
> and then save it. Now the file has the permissions -rwx-r--r--.... It
> appears that it currently doesn't matter what the settings are in the
> beginning, after I save from Windows, the file is set to rwx for the
> owner... Is there any way around this?
>
> Also, I had a file named DailyThought.c. Opened it in MS-VC++ and
> did some stuff and then saved it. Now, on the linux machine the name is
> dailythought.c, all lowercase. Is there any way to preserve the case
> too... (It also changed the file permissions...)
>
> Thanks for any help!!
>
> Ryan
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------
> Ryan C. Payne, MSIS, BSN, RN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computer Support Consultant
> Department of Radiology
> Division of Radiology Informatics
> University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
> 200 Lothrop Street
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213-2582
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 10:12:59 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan Olesen) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >*CAN* you grep in windows?
>
> Sorry for my Linux ignorance. My experience with Linux is one week
> old, so I may have misunderstood the purpose of grep. Grep is the
> function that can search several files for a text string, right?
Command, not function, but basically yes. It can also search for
"regular expressions" -- that's the "re" part of the name. You can also
control case sensitivity, and so on. The following finds all instances
of "q" not followed by "u" in files with ".html" extensions.:
grep -i 'q[^u]' *.html
(Note that selecting the .html files is done by the shell, not by grep.)
> You can do that in W95 too. It is part of the standard built-in file
> search function, which can search for file names, sizes, dates and
> text strings. But it cannot replace text strings (don't know if Linux
> grep can), and it cannot be used from a prompt instead of GUI (suppose
> that Linux grep can).
All these functions are actually performed by the "find" command (in
combination with "grep" for text searching and "sed" or "perl" for
replacement). For example, I use the following little script for
computing line counts and displaying them graphically (using a program,
"xdu", originally designed for displaying disk usage):
find ${*-.} -type f ! -name '*~' ! -name '#*' ! -name '.#*' \
! -name '*.class' ! -name '*.o' ! -name '*.log' ! -name '*.zip' \
-exec wc -l {} \; \
| xdu -c 4 -name "Line Counts: $*" -geom +105+80
and this one for doing a global replace (replacing "aux" with "util") in
all files named "Repository".
find . -name "Repository" -exec perl -p -i -e 's@/aux/@/util/@' {} \;
(exactly _why_ I had to do that is left as an exercise for the reader.)
Bottom line: it is Unix's ability to _combine_ commands that makes it so
powerful.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xhost Question
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:35:32 GMT
When I want to run x11 apps from another machine on my own, I typically do a
xhost +foreignmachine
Is there a way I can setup certain machines to always be okay so I don't have
to explicity name them?
-Jordan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LINUX & Encryption technology
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:10:25 +0100
You can use Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) to encrypt your files, before you
transfer. Take a look at www.pgp.com for both NT and Linux/UNIX versions.
Lidia Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi this may be a dumb question, I want FTP files accross the internet
: from an NT box to my LINUX box with regularity. My concern is
: security. I want to encrypt the data but don't know of any tools to do
: this.
--
Anders Gulden Olstad @ Jeeves
RedHat 5.2 Linux kernel 2.0.36
"Penguins are generally nice creatures"
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:21:52 -0500
"A.R.Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> Is anyone here working on constructing a Beowulf System using Red Hat and
-> the Beowulf software?
I'm saving up to get the hardware for a Beowulf cluster using SuSE.
My first step will be to just get four computers added to the network
as file and process servers. I am aiming for a per CPU cost of <
$1000 USD where each CPU has 256MB RAM, >= 300Mgz clock >= 8.4GB IDE
drive, and 100bt eathernet.
I haven't choosen a vendor yet, but I like Maxtor for disk and Intel
for PII CPU.
The house needs a new roof, so I don't know if I can do it this year.
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From: Allen Versfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:51:15 +0200
So pedantic!!! Something only counts as a standard if it is produced by
a standards organisation? Bit weak to try and use someones phrasing to
tear apart their argument ;-)
Has anyone noticed how many arguments (ar'gyoo'ment. n. embryonic
stage of a flamewar) on the net seem to be based on subtle differences
of opinion as to the true meaning of technical (or not so technical)
terms?
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:58:12 GMT...
> ..and Bitbucket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:14:26 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias
> > Warkus) wrote:
> >
> > >It was the Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:25:40 GMT...
> > >..and Bitbucket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Companies need standardization and support contracts. Even if it is
> > >> somewhat of a ripoff. Linux right now has neither, and as long as the
> > >> desktops, community colleges and training centers educate on MS
> > >> offerings this is not going to change real soon.
> > >
> > >Now come on, don't make yourself look ridiculous by claiming that Windows is
> > >in some way "standardised" or even "a standard".
> >
> > Well, I suppose to some that may seem ridiculous. But MS does offer a
> > solution. Flawed, yes. But a comprehensive solution none the less.
> > When a college or small to medium business shops around or goes to a
> > consultant for a solution, he sells them on MS because of the name,
> > level of integration between services and apps, ease of use and yes,
> > standardization that this solution provides. Too much money? Of
> > course. dubious quality? of course. But it is an attempt to offer a
> > full solution to a need , and they are starting to meet it. And
> > getting better at it. Windows in and of itself is indeed a standard.
>
> So, what is the ISO or ANSI number of it?
>
> > By sheer numbers alone it's fits this criteria. It's not a hurdle for
> > a company to hire PC operators when 90% of home users have a windows
> > OS on their desktop. If the business uses custom apps that are written
> > to a windows interface guidelines then the training time is minimal.
> > And it's getting worse. I see jobs for Unix admins in the paper, I
> > see 30 windows related jobs to every one of the Unix offerings though.
> > I'm sure this will change, and change for the better if Linux
> > continues to grow and improve as it has. But the laws of diminishing
> > returns effect ALL product models, whether it be a bizarre, or a
> > cathedral.
> > The Volkswagen (people's car) was once a standard in Germany.
>
> What was its DIN standard number?
>
> > Was is the best car? No, but it filled a utilitarian need. Windows has
> > become an appliance for the people. People are leery of anything
> > free. Didn't we all grow up thinking you couldn't get something for
> > nothing? I don't believe that since I installed Linux, but I wouldn't
> > waste my breath trying to convince my sister, or my mother or my
> > friends who use windows, or my uncle, or my.......
>
> At the moment, you are really making yourself look ridiculous, since you are
> trying to claim that if lots of people use something, that makes it a
> standard.
>
> mawa
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> My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
> It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
> lowers your social status...
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Subject: Re: Re: no ctrl-M in terminal
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 18 Jan 1999 23:45:51 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:06:28 GMT, wrote :
r> In article <77hnoa$8ji$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
r> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse) wrote:
r> > In article <77gdd0$3dg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
r> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
r> > >Could someone help me with the following problem:
r> > >
r> > >Sometimes, after killing a process or exiting my login shell with ctrl-D,
r> > >(I can't tell the exact circumstances, unfortunately),
r> > >I get a login: prompt which does not allow me to enter my login simply
r> because
r> > >it does not recognize <enter> as a special character. When I type my
r> loginname
r> > >(rene) and press <enter>, it just displays rene^M. So I am not able to log
r> > >in on that virtual console any more.
r> > >
r> > > ...snip...
r> >
r> > I've seen that too. This is caused by some daemons having the
r> > /dev/console open, and because of that the tty driver does not get reset
r> > when you log off.
Beware of 'kill -9 <some shell process id>'. It is better to do 'kill
-HUP <some shell process id>'. People generally use 'kill -9' too
freely. Yes, it is sometimes necessary, but you should try a plain kill
(implies -TERM) or hangup (-HUP) before doing a kill -9. Using
non-deadly kill signals allow for the processes in question to clean up
after themselves (such as reset tty state information).
r> >
r> > You could try: 'stty sane < /dev/tty1' and see if this helps.
r> >
r> > Villy
r> >
r> It works! but I don't understand why. I would expect it to work if you output
r> something to the terminal. This command only seems to read from the terminal.
r> How does it work?
stty neither reads nor writes to the terminal. It just does an ioctl to
its stdin, if its stdin 'isatty'.
r>
r> Rene
r>
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