Linux-Misc Digest #690, Volume #24 Fri, 2 Jun 00 16:13:06 EDT
Contents:
More nightmares... for the MPAA... courtesy of M$. (blackbird rises at sun rise)
Re: ASUS K7V KX133 motherboard problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Dowe Keller)
fetchmail problem (The Dude)
Re: Freewwweb slow ? (Craig McCluskey)
Re: Linux News (Patricia)
Re: samba troubles (Akira Yamanita)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Mark Wilden)
Re: Pine, Fetchmail help (Dowe Keller)
Re: Will GNUtella kills off Yahoo and the likes? (STRONTiUM DOG)
Re: Serial Ports & Pamela Lee Anderson (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Q: Console-based Organizer/Calendar apps? (Dowe Keller)
Re: reccommended partitions and sizes (Dowe Keller)
Re: HowTo Change Screen ("Kevin Vandersloot")
Re: reccommended partitions and sizes ("Peter T. Breuer")
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: blackbird rises at sun rise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d,rec.video.dvd
Subject: More nightmares... for the MPAA... courtesy of M$.
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:19:58 GMT
Will the MPAA Sue Micro$oft?
blackbird.
================fwd===========================
By BBC News Online internet reporter Mark Ward
What MP3 has done for music on the internet, MP4 might do for movies.
After the software standard that compresses sound files comes one
that shrinks video files into a more manageable size.
Already pirated versions of films prepared with the MP4 software
are turning up on websites.
Film studios have yet to take action against any of the pirates but
are known to be watching how the technology develops.
The MP4 standard was developed by the Moving Picture Experts Group, the
same folk who developed MP3.
But a version that can turn massive movie files into a handier size
has escaped on to the internet thanks to Microsoft.
It developed the software to compress and decompress video,
called a codec, to help the Windows Media Player program handle
moving pictures sent over the internet.
Full Story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_774000/774615.stm
========================================================
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ASUS K7V KX133 motherboard problems
Date: 02 Jun 2000 11:39:17 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ryan Sackenheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> >> Mostly people reported no problems, and some of them had the
> >> K7V motherboard. I'm interested because I'm seriously thinking about
...<snip>...
> But about the Athalon, that's what I think I want to get, I [
followed up on]
> the previous link to a slashdot article and found that if you check out
> www.linhardware.com they have a long section on motherboards and are the ones
> in the slashdot article that are trying to figure out what it takes to get
> Athalons (or more precicely their motherboards to work). They like ASUS and
> EPOX motherboards, don't like ABIT well anyway as I check more they [
have quite]
> a few motherboards listed some w/ ratings. Also checkout
> http://www.tdl.com/~netex/mb/mb.html, they sell hardware (I guess [
only systems]
> for now because of demand) but they take Linux into account and love the ASUS
> mb. Some of the othe "linux" computer vendors seem to also use the ASUS
> motherboards.
>
One thing I'm curious about is sound. As I understand it, you can
get the motherboard with or without sound. My only soundcards are ISA,
and I believe the ASUS K7V has no ISA slots, so I'd either have to get one
with sound or buy a new soundcard. I actually posted a response to someone
who was inquiring earlier about how the chip used, an AD1881 wasn't
supported except that presumably someone had posted a patch. I'm still a
little doubtful, though I would imagine that it would be gotten to work
someday.
--- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address ---
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 2 Jun 2000 11:54:42 -0700
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 07:44:52 +0100, Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert J Carter wrote:
>>
>> REMOVE EVERY DAMN COMMENT IN IT.
>
>There is a school of thought (Martin Fowler is a don) that says that
>commenting indicates that the code is too complicated, and needs to be
>refactored.
>
>I don't go that far. I do like to see a brief comment at the top of each
>function expressing its contract with the outside world. There's only so
>much meaning you can include in a single function name, after all.
Yea, I get pretty tired after about 100 lines of code with comment's in
this vien:
print "\t$header\n"; # Print the header.
This probibly comes from people who had programming instructors like mine
that would take points away if you didn't have a comment for every
instruction.
There are situations however where a comment can help one figure out what
a particular algorithm is doing.
My meathod FWIW is to put a comment at the start of the program telling
what the program is supposed to do, and how to get ahold of me. A comment
at the beginning of every function explaining what the function does and
how it fits into the general scheme of things, and a comment or two about
any particularly nasty or clever crocks (This comment is usually followed
by a plea for someone to fix this please :).
BTW: I use perl, and I happen to think that perl can be just as readable
as any other programming language.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
I wanted to emulate some of my hero's, but I didn't know thier
op-codes.
--dowe
------------------------------
From: The Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fetchmail problem
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:30:36 GMT
I have Mandrake 7.0 box installed on my machine.
I tried configuring fetchmail the same way as I did
before with RedHat 6.1 snd 6.2. for some reason it pops up
only mail when configured to pop from my loalhost put when
configured to pop from yahoo for example it seems like working
but I can not find the mails on the machine. I tried
/var/spool/mail/username but NADA. where can it be???
I guess my smtpd is configured correctly coz as I said it pops
just fine form my localmachine.
and again as said bofore the same .fetchmailrc file worked on my
RedHat box.
tnx.
--
Regards
The Dude
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Freewwweb slow ?
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:45:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rootman wrote:
>
> Mine varied wildly, got 20k connections to almost 50k. Mail was
> excrutiatingly slow all the time.
>
> I guess the thing is "what do you expect for nothin'?". I broke down
> and actually got a local ISP after account freezups, no email and busy
> signals all the time. Never getting a response to tech support email
> (to this date from almost 30 days ago) sealed it's doom.
>
> It's alright if you can put up with the slow and non existant service.
>
Here in Austin, I can't even connect to the Internet.
Sometimes it will let me log onto their machine, but when I try to run
ppp
(or any of the other services shown by typing a ?) I get an error
message
that ppp is not enabled.
Other times, the modem connects and it asks me to type the system
password
which I obviously don't know.
Craig
------------------------------
From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux News
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:47:55 +0200
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, MR-ED wrote:
>You can find Linux news at http://212.120.127.178
yep he is everywhere
------------------------------
From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba troubles
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:52:34 GMT
Comments are within your post.
Geoff Sullivan wrote:
>
> samba problems.... I never could dance very well anyway!!!
>
> I'm having problems configuring samba on a two computer network.
> One runs Linux/Win98 and the other runs Win98. They are connected via a
> crossover cable and Ethernet 3c509b cards. (When both run Win98 the network
> runs fine!)
>
> The Linux box is penguin (192.168.0.2)
> The Win98 box is sunfish (192.168.0.1)
>
> I can run sbmclient and access sunfish OK, however penguin does not show up in
> Network Neighborhood on sunfish. I can also ping sunfish (or 192.168.0.1)
> successfully, but I cannot open a browser and access it. I get "access denied".
Common problem if you have "local master = no" under [global] then
either change it to "yes" or remove the line completely.
> smbmount lets me "in" from Linux, but I cannot do anything from the prompt:
>
> [geoff@penguin geoff]$ smbmount //sunfish/c /mnt
> Added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.255.255.255 nmask=255.0.0.0
> Server time is Fri Jun 2 12:55:44 2000
> Timezone is UTC-4.0
> security=share
> smb: \> ls
> ls: command not found
> smb: \> help
> help: command not found
> smb: \>
You're using smbclient, not smbmount. I don't know why
the commands don't work.
Strange that it has to add the loopback interface.
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo should look like this.
DEVICE=lo
IPADDR=127.0.0.1
NETMASK=255.0.0.0
NETWORK=127.0.0.0
# If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian,
# you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example)
BROADCAST=127.255.255.255
ONBOOT=yes
NAME=loopback
> Here are the results of nmblookup:
>
> [geoff@penguin geoff]$ nmblookup SUNFISH
> Sending queries to 127.255.255.255
> name_query failed to find name SUNFISH
> [geoff@penguin geoff]$ nmblookup sunfish
> Sending queries to 127.255.255.255
> name_query failed to find name sunfish
> [geoff@penguin geoff]$
>
> Why does this fail? Notice I tried upper and lower case both.
I'm not sure but why is it only sending queries to the loopback
broadcast? If you have "bind interfaces only = yes" then make
sure you have this line:
interfaces = 192.168.0.1/24 127.0.0.1
> testparm also says my smb.conf file is OK, but there are so many options I
> may have confused myself.
>
> One thing I cannot get any information on is what, if anything, to set up on
> the Windows side. I've already got TCP/IP and as I said before, the network
> does work when both machines are running Win98.
>
> I'm also a little confused about netmasks and gateways. Perhaps I've got these
> settings messed up too? And passwords. The Windows box is basically a
> one-user computer. Login prompts have been disabled. Could this screw up
> samba?
A netmask is what separates the network address from the host address.
You should be able to use 255.255.255.0 for your netmask on the
192.168.0.0 network. Post the output of ifconfig if you'd like.
> I've been reading the Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 installation directions and
> Running Linux and the man pages and it just gets more confusing the more I
> read!! Do I have to resort to Samba for Dummies!!????
Post the [global] section of /etc/smb.conf if you want more
specific help that I might not have covered.
Remember to restart Samba for the changes to take effect.
"samba restart" should do it.
------------------------------
From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:53:53 +0100
Dowe Keller wrote:
>
> My meathod FWIW is to put a comment at the start of the program telling
> what the program is supposed to do, and how to get ahold of me. A comment
> at the beginning of every function explaining what the function does and
> how it fits into the general scheme of things, and a comment or two about
> any particularly nasty or clever crocks
This is just about exactly what I do (except I don't rely on the mercy
of strangers. :)
> BTW: I use perl, and I happen to think that perl can be just as readable
> as any other programming language.
I agree. I especially like its terseness, since if it's properly
idiomatic, I find terse code more readable than wordy code (though I use
descriptive identifiers).
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm moving from England back to Oakhurst in about a week, and I'll be
using sierratel.com myself then. :)
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: Pine, Fetchmail help
Date: 2 Jun 2000 12:14:48 -0700
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:11:25 GMT, William H. Asquith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>All,
>I am using RH6.1 (2.2.12) on Notebook. I have been using kmail, but
>would like to change to Pine. I used to use Pine at office, and still
>want to because it is so fast to use. I think that I need to use
>Fetchmail to retrieve mail from my several ISP mailboxes (I want to pick
>and choose which mail box at what time) and place mail into a path that
>Pine searches. I am totally new at this so I do not know where to turn
>for help. I figure that once I understand Fetchmail and any potential
>Fetchmail/Pine relation, I would be on my own. Can this be done?
>
There is no fetchmail/pine relation, fetchmail fetches mail and
dumps it on the MDA. The MDA puts it in /var/spool/mail/yername.
Then you can read it with pine, or elm, or mutt, or mail, or even
more.
For further enlightenment, read the fetchmail faq. If you've got
fetchmail on your system, you probibly have the faq. If not, its
on esr's web site www.tuxedo.org/~esr/I'm_to_lazy_to_look_it_up.
BTW: On my Redhat 5.2 system it's under /usr/doc/fetchmail-4.5.8/FAQ
`man fetchmail' may shine a little light, too.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
I wanted to emulate some of my hero's, but I didn't know thier
op-codes.
--dowe
------------------------------
From: STRONTiUM DOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d
Subject: Re: Will GNUtella kills off Yahoo and the likes?
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:59:38 -0500
In article <8h8s10$hs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex Lam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> GNUtella going main stream... Will it kills off Yahoo and the likes?
>
> At least it will give all the search engines a major headache, I'd
> think.
>
> blackbird.
Yahoo is not a search engine, you fingersniffing dork.
��
��
------------------------------
From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial Ports & Pamela Lee Anderson
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:00:12 GMT
"Michael A. Reynolds" wrote:
>
> Okay,
>
> I threw that last part on there to get your attention. Sorry. Since
> you're here, how about taking a stab at my question???
>
> I have an Acer Aspire (don't ask me why) desktop with SuSE 6.4 running
> linux kernel 2.2.14. I'm perfectly happy with everything (well, my
> Canon Bubble Jet BJC-5000 doesn't work); however, I can't seem to get
> my second serial port to work.
>
> As it stands, I have my serial modem on winbloze COM port 3 or
> /dev/ttyS2 (to you and me). That runs just fine (obviously since I'm
> posting this). However, I'm trying to hotsync my Palm V which uses
> COM 1 (in winbloze). Linux, however, doesn't know that it's even
> there (it seems). I have tried to manually set up the port using
> "setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550 irq 4(3)" and NOTHING.
>
> Now I know this port exists, but why can't I get it to work????? Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance. D*MN, I LOVE LINUX!!!!!!!!! (except for the
> whole serial port thing). By the way, I should mention that there's
> no separate serial card. The serial ports and all are on the
> motherboard.
First, please don't post in HTML.
Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Formatting ->
Use the plain text editor to compose messages
You probably have an IRQ conflict. COM1 and COM3 default to IRQ 4.
You should be able to change this in the CMOS setup. Never set
the serial ports to "AUTO" as this can cause weird problems. If
you want to make sure things don't get screwed up in Windows,
set them for COM2/IRQ3 COM3/IRQ4. You'll probably want to check
what resources they're using in Windows. If the ports are set to
AUTO, they might not be using standard IRQs.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: Q: Console-based Organizer/Calendar apps?
Date: 2 Jun 2000 12:23:23 -0700
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:46:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)
>
>Does anyone have any recommendations for a _console_-based app
>that has various calendar/scheduling facilities?
>
>Under X, I have tried KOrganizer, which is OK, but I want to run
>the app on a system _without_ X ...
>
>Cheers,
>
cron? ;->
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
I wanted to emulate some of my hero's, but I didn't know thier
op-codes.
--dowe
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: reccommended partitions and sizes
Date: 2 Jun 2000 12:29:27 -0700
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 15:11:46 +0100, Steven Thurgood (1X0S)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have read the FHS2 thingy, but A few things could do with
>clarification:
>shareable data- so anything non-executable?
>I think I took it as meaning, /usr/local/bin was for small, local
>binaries and apps, wheras opt was for larger applications - ie
>staroffice or kde or something?
>
>does this sound about right?
>
>-Steve
>-----------------------------
>.Triggle
Actually, /opt is an evil aberation on the face of the Unix filesystem
heirarchy. ;-)
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
I wanted to emulate some of my hero's, but I didn't know thier
op-codes.
--dowe
------------------------------
From: "Kevin Vandersloot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HowTo Change Screen
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:15:03 -0800
In article <8h75m8$588$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jackie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using RedHat 6.0 and am doing "make
> menuconfig". Some Help Descriptions ask me to
> see more info in files
> Documentation/blahblah.txt. So, how can I switch
> screen to see the document without leaving the
> Configuration Menu?
>
> Thankxx, Jackie
>
>
Sounds like you are in console mode. You can get
virtual consoles by pressing ctrl/alt/Fx where you
will be prompted to log in. From there do what
else you need to do.
------------------------------
From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reccommended partitions and sizes
Date: 2 Jun 2000 19:16:43 GMT
Dowe Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 15:11:46 +0100, Steven Thurgood (1X0S)
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>I have read the FHS2 thingy, but A few things could do with
:>clarification:
:>shareable data- so anything non-executable?
:>I think I took it as meaning, /usr/local/bin was for small, local
:>binaries and apps, wheras opt was for larger applications - ie
:>staroffice or kde or something?
:>
:>does this sound about right?
: Actually, /opt is an evil aberation on the face of the Unix filesystem
: heirarchy. ;-)
Therefore just the right place to put staroffice! 120MB of guff doesn't
really belong in /usr. Not even emacsen are that huge.
Peter
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************