Linux-Misc Digest #715, Volume #18 Thu, 21 Jan 99 17:13:16 EST
Contents:
Re: Infringement of the GPL (steve mcadams)
Re: WOW LotusNotes on Linux (Carl Fink)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Chris Bergeron)
Re: A Tale of Two Installations (Giftzwerg)
pcmcia controller woes/RedHat 5.2 install (Anand Kolatkar)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Rick Walker)
Re: A Tale of Two Installations (John Girash)
Re: iso9660 not supported by kernel? ("Dr.Mistery")
Re: Playing mp3 files (Lee)
Re: Samba and file permissions... ("Ryan C. Payne")
Re: A newbie versus "vi" [HOLY WARS ALERT] (Kevin Martin)
Re: Thoughts on file organization (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Ciaran Dunn")
No floppy in Linux ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!) (Jeremy
Mathers)
Re: [ newsgroups and moderation ] (Michael Powe)
Re: Why would xfontsel hang? (James Youngman)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:13:00 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:48:13 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The whole business seems very uncertain.
>
>Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first.
Good advice, since writing the code is dessert and making any money
from it is icing. (I always eat dessert first because I know damn
well I'll eat it anyway no matter how full I am when I get to it; if
I'm going to skip something, please let it be the lima-beans!.)
-steve
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Tools for programmers: http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: WOW LotusNotes on Linux
Date: 20 Jan 1999 05:24:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Jan 1999 03:29:46 GMT, Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is for LotusNotes Server. How can I get a LotusNotes client working in
>Linux? Is the client being ported also (hope, hope, hope)???
IBM is supporting only Mac and Windows clients for Notes. There's a
Windows emulator (or possibly non-emulator), wine (see
comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine), that currently *cannot* run Notes,
but here's a web page from someone who's still trying:
http://www.brooklinesw.com/linux/linuxnotes.html
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Your brain is actually a fabulously complex computer, which means that
on Jan. 1, 2000, it will stop working and your body will flop around
like a recently caught perch." (Dave Barry, slightly paraphrased.)
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From: !@#@!#@#[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bergeron)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 21 Jan 1999 00:08:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:54:43 -0600, Michael Lee Yohe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I have advice for you guys: get a life.
We have lives, that's why we use Linux...
>>
>>Every problem that Windows has is also evident in _all_ other breeds of
>>operating systems.
I'm a PC guy. I won't start a MAC fight here, but I steered clear of the MAC
because
I don't want to use an OS that doesn't let me "tinker" with it.
>>Every problem with "bloat" is also evident in _all_ other breeds of
>>operating systems _and_ applications. But most people would not know this
The problem with "bloat" is caused by idiotic users that want their PC's to
think for them. That's just a classic case of "American laziness" it's right
up there with not being able to program a VCR. Sorry, they still have yet to
design a VCR that the "AVERAGE" American can easily program.
>>because they've used two operating systems: Windows and Linux. I've been
>>using operating systems of all types for many years now - the problem is not
>>Microsoft-specific. The problem is "programming-in-general" specific.
No - the problem is MICROSOFT PROGRAMMING IN GENERAL. Most other programming
standards are adhered to, not "modified" out of sheer laziness / lackluster
design. I just don't believe they do it "to improve the standard". All it
does
is create proprietary protocols that make programming difficult for everyone.
Granted - proprietary design has resulted in new technology, but I think that
should remain a function of the "creative geniuses" that focus on the
technology
they create / develop. Not as a "sidenote" to the OS maker....Microsoft.
>>
>>Understand this guys - "bloat" is a relative term. Perhaps most of you
>>don't appreciate the "additional" features. For you I would say steer clear
>
>
> Well, DUH!
>
> One should be able to interact with the rest of the
> computing universe without being forced to deal with
> bloat that they don't necessarily need or want just
> to deal with network effects.
>
I couldn'tve said it better - That's why we happily use
Linux.
>>of any software made nowadays. Otherwise - your opinion is merely your
>>own - and I would advise you to substantiate your evidence with clear
>>examples.
>>
>>This argument has turned to nonsense as all people really want to do is bash
>>Microsoft - not address the true problem - the lack of discipline by
>>programmers, Microsoft and otherwise, to produce lean code.
>>
>>-- "anything written in anything besides assembly is bloated"
>
> Anything that does other than what the users'
> specificiation calls for is a waste of space,
> cpu cycles, money and licences.
>
> The user should have the option of avoiding those
> costs if they so choose with minimal effect outside
> the restrictions they are placing on their own utility.
>
>--
> Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
>
>Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
>is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Giftzwerg)
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Installations
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:07:52 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > Care to hear how long it took me to install RealPlayer in Linux?
> > I have no idea how long - since it *still* isn't working.
>
> ?
>
> $ rpm -iv rvplayer-5.0-3.i386.rpm
?
Didn't work. So sorry. Next suggestion?
And your answer couldn't have missed the essential point by a wider
margin. The crucial issue here is not whether some dumb plugin can be
made to work, but whether Linux is ever going to be more than a toy for
geeks who have nothing better to do with their lives that dick around
with installing software.
The point is how can Linux *ever* hope to challenge Microsoft in the all-
important business and home market while the poor schlub who owns a Linux
system is stuck typing "./make config" and similar nonsensical
incantations in diminishing hopes of ever getting the software he needs
to use working.
RPMs go a long way towards sorting this dipshit situation out, but even a
successful "-I" command doesn't ensure success...
...case in point.
--
Giftzwerg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ladies and gentlemen, please welcome reagan and haig,
mr. begin and friend mrs. thatcher and paisley
mr. brezhnev and party
the ghost of mccarthy
and the memories of nixon
and now adding colour a group of anonymous latin
american meat packing glitterati
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anand Kolatkar)
Subject: pcmcia controller woes/RedHat 5.2 install
Date: 21 Jan 1999 20:18:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tried to install RedHat 5.2 onto my new laptop (ARM Computing).
The disk partioning went fine. I started the installation
process and everything seemed to go along quite smoothly.
Unfortunately, when I went to reboot the machine after the install
was complete, the kernel started booting but then froze when
it tried to start the pcmcia module.
I have a Texas Instruments PCI 1250 pcmcia controller and I thought
that this was supported under the latest pcmcia modules. However,
maybe the RedHat 5.2 distrubution doesn't have the latest pcmcia
drivers? Can someone please help me out? Is there some way to
know if I am simply out of luck with this pcmcia controller?
Also, is there some way to turn off the pcmcia module loading so
that I can at least check out the other goodies that Linux has
in store on my laptop?
Thanks for any help you can provide!
P.S.
I bought a real RedHat boxed CD set and used that to install
5.2
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email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept. Structural Biology
Lab Phone: (650) 725-4625 or -7866 Fairchild Building D-143
FAX: (650) 723-8464 Stanford, CA. 94305-5126
Home Page - http://galactose.stanford.edu/~anandk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Walker)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 21 Jan 1999 00:42:47 GMT
: for some reason, my decision brings out people like you all the time.
: first, I thought it was a good idea for purely technical reasons. then I
: discovered that it was also a good idea because it enables the easy
: detection of people whose brains no longer work.
I'm sympathetic to your points about loss of information through
capitalization. However, I distinguish between technical writing and
normal English usage. When writing a letter, I obey the cultural
rules. When writing computer documentataion (for example), I bend the
rules where appropriate. Here are a few.
# a sentence is started without caps, because ls(1) is
# decidedly different than Ls(1):
ls(1) is used to list files in a directory.
# I suppose someone completely hung-up on "correct" usage would
# modify that sentence to be:
The program ls(1) is used to list files in a ...
# a closing period is left off to prevent ambiguity with a
# precise string specification:
Documentation on carnivorous plants can be found at
http://www.hpl.hp.com/bot/cp_home This address is useful...
# or alternatively:
Documentation on carnivorous plants can be found at
"www.hpl.hp.com/bot/cp_home". This address is useful...
# I find this second form not completely satisfactory because
# many novice users will insist on typing the double quotes.
# Notice that "correct" English usage actually insists on
# putting the period within the quotes:
Documentation on carnivorous plants can be found at
"www.hpl.hp.com/bot/cp_home." This address is useful...
# This is *COMPLETELY* busted. I've noticed that in books on style,
# even the hard-line grammarians/typographers are starting to acknowledge
# that periods can optionally be placed outside of quotes for technical
# writing.
kind regards,
--
Rick Walker
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Installations
Date: 21 Jan 1999 20:53:15 GMT
Giftzwerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
:> > Care to hear how long it took me to install RealPlayer in Linux?
:> > I have no idea how long - since it *still* isn't working.
:> $ rpm -iv rvplayer-5.0-3.i386.rpm
: Didn't work. So sorry. Next suggestion?
: And your answer couldn't have missed the essential point by a wider margin.
Let's make a few points first:
1) RH != Linux
2) rpm != standard binary package format in Linux (common, but not standard)
3) you having an install problem != all having that install problem
: The crucial issue here is not whether some dumb plugin can be
: made to work, but whether Linux is ever going to be more than a toy for
: geeks who have nothing better to do with their lives that dick around
: with installing software.
4) Linux is especially useful to those who are already Unix-savvy (amongst
others). This is a rather broad category that only partially overlaps
with "install geeks". Just 'cause _you_ don't have any more important
use for a computer than streaming audio doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
: The point is how can Linux *ever* hope to challenge Microsoft in the all-
: important business and home market while the poor schlub who owns a Linux
: system is stuck typing "./make config" and similar nonsensical
: incantations in diminishing hopes of ever getting the software he needs
: to use working.
5) Linux is an OS, and a development model for that OS. It doesn't "hope"
to do anything other than what those who design it to do, hope for it
to do. To the best of my knowledge this doesn't include challenging MS.
6) Linux is not a commercial product. Your market models don't fit.
7) People who are afraid of "./make config" should reconsider using Linux.
I for one home that the "incantations" never go away. They may require
some learning and some manual digging, but in the end they make sense.
: RPMs go a long way towards sorting this dipshit situation out, but even a
: successful "-I" command doesn't ensure success...
I have no idea what "rpm -I" does. But if it's a "forcing" option then duh!
Of course it doesn't ensure success. In any case
8) I've never heard of an OS in which install 3rd-party binary packages was
guaranteed to "work" every time. At least in Linux's case a user-installed
package won't trash the OS.
I know many people who have lost dozens of hours -- and even entire OS
installations -- due to WinXX application installs gone bad. Most recently,
putting MS-Money99 over Win98 trashed a system beyond repair. Just finding
out the cause took several days. But would I recommend that person move to
Linux as a result? Not a chance, it'd be the wrong tool. Just 'cause MS
screws a person over doesn't mean that Linux/BSD/Solaris etc is the fix.
You had an install problem. Big whoop, we all face them eventually, nomatter
what OS we use. You don't have to insult the whole community as a result.
jg
p.s. FWIW the Debian-supplied RVPlayer5 install script worked like a charm.
--
"don't listen when you're told / about the best days in your life : Spirit of
a useless old expression, it means / passing time until you die." : the West
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-- John Girash --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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From: "Dr.Mistery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,alt.linux
Subject: Re: iso9660 not supported by kernel?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:51:06 +0000
Robert Ennals wrote:
> "Patrick G. Heck" wrote:
> >
> > I installed RH 5.1 from CDROM, but now I can't seem to mount the cdrom.
> > I get an erorr telling me that iso9660 is not supported by the kernel.
> > If that is not true, then how the heck did it install? This is an
> > installation from the boxed distribution on an IBM Aptiva E2U (AMD K6-2
> > 333 Mhz) and I am using loadlin to boot from a win98 config.sys menu.
>
> Sounds like when you installed RedHat, you didn't tell it to include
> iso9660 support in the installed kernel, either as a module or compiled
> in.
>
> If you are lucky, it will have given you the compiled module and you
> will be able to insmod it. Look for a suitably titled file in
> /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION/.
>
> DISCLAIMER: I do not use RedHat. I use a highly customised debian
> installation, so anything I say may be wrong.
>
> --
>
> Robert Ennals / Cambridge University / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / ennals.acm.org
> http://www.thor.cam.ac.uk/~rje33/
It happened the same to me. If you install the boot loader instead of
booting from a floppy it will work
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Playing mp3 files
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:18:19 GMT
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:38:51 +0000, Richard Lewin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have several mp3 files which I am trying to play under Linux (they work
>fine under Windows). I have installed mpg123 and I can get it to work
>but only with the -2 option and the quality is not very good.
>Without the -2 option it plays very slowly. I have also installed kmp3
>which uses amp as its player. I can't get it to work at all with this. I
>just get a lot of screeching and whistling and the counter on the
>graphical display counts up very slowly - at least half or third the
>normal speed. Is this a problem with the mp3 files or is there something
>wrong with my installation? - (my soundcard is a Soundblaster Pro
>compatible and seems to be working OK otherwise). Has anyone else had
>success playing mp3 files under Linux and getting quality comparable to
>that from Windows media player?
I've had success, with quality identical to Windows.
The application is called X11Amp. Go to freshmeat.net and do a search
for it.
It's basically an X11 version of WinAmp.
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From: "Ryan C. Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Samba and file permissions...
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:11:45 -0500
OK.... I fixed the case problem, but the permissions problem is still
happening...
Ryan C. Payne wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> Another strange question: Say I have a file with the permissions
> set at -rw-r--r--. I open in on my windows 98 machine, make some changes
> and then save it. Now the file has the permissions -rwx-r--r--.... It
> appears that it currently doesn't matter what the settings are in the
> beginning, after I save from Windows, the file is set to rwx for the
> owner... Is there any way around this?
>
> Also, I had a file named DailyThought.c. Opened it in MS-VC++ and
> did some stuff and then saved it. Now, on the linux machine the name is
> dailythought.c, all lowercase. Is there any way to preserve the case
> too... (It also changed the file permissions...)
>
> Thanks for any help!!
>
> Ryan
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------
> Ryan C. Payne, MSIS, BSN, RN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computer Support Consultant
> Department of Radiology
> Division of Radiology Informatics
> University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
> 200 Lothrop Street
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213-2582
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Ryan C. Payne, MSIS, BSN, RN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Support Consultant
Department of Radiology
Division of Radiology Informatics
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
200 Lothrop Street
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-2582
(412) 692-HELP
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Martin)
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi" [HOLY WARS ALERT]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:32:22 GMT
If it's on topic for .misc then by definition it doesn't belong in .setup.
Please pick one or the other and stick with it. Followups set to assist
you in this endeavor.
In article <78832p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, it says [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Alexander Viro) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>It was the 20 Jan 1999 00:35:46 -0500...
>>..and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Al, who finds vi nice and TECO amusing. But EMACS... Nah. It's M$ of
>>> editors. Heck, even M$ had to spend quite a few years until they managed to
>>> build similar monolitic, slow and bloated memory hog.
>>
>>Emacs is actually very modular. Look at where all the functionality is
>>loaded from. I don't know whether it supports unloading of modules, though...
>
>From a big messy collection of stuff written in the most losing version
>of LISP I ever seen. To start with, it's a single process from the scheduler's
>POV. I *would* agree that putting EMACS as an additional server over Mach
>would have some hack value, but it's *not* a good candidate for UNIX process.
>My main beef against EMACS is that it provides quite enough LISP to taint you
>and it invariably sucks several megaLl when you are trying to write on it as
>if it was the real thing. The same as in MSDOS - you are trying to use it as
>if it was UNIX and... Oh, and EMACS bindings suck, but *that* can be redefined.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on file organization
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the difference between /usr/local and /opt?
--
"Withdraw in disgust is not the same thing as apathy." --R.E.M.
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From: "Ciaran Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:12:23 +1100
Michael Lee Yohe wrote in message <9HboM9ER#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Indeed. And I must add as a person that makes a living writing
>>Win32 code in C/C++, MFC, OWL, Delphi, VB et al. that I find it
>>simply stunning that someone thinks there is very much to admire
>>in the Win32 API ???
>>
>>Maximum efficency ??? Gimme a break !
>
><ehem>
>
>Sometimes the problem is not within the API's but the programmer. Let's
not
>start mocking other's opinions. This is beginning to sound like a battle
by
>Sun versus Microsoft.
Well I didnt think I was *mocking* anyones opinion. I try not to mock. I
just
dont happen to agree with the previous poster opinion.
I was making a comment on the idea that the Win32 API somehow is partly
responsible for the ease of application development under Windows. If
anything
the opposite is true.
Personally I find myself much more productive writing for unix systems...
simply
because I dont have to wrestle with the MS API documentation and the general
incoherance and inconsistency of the API itself. Dont get me wrong here. I
understand why the API is incoherant.... that doesnt mean I like it though.
Cheers,
Ciaran
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No floppy in Linux ?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:59:00 +0200
Hi everyone,
now I finally succeded in installing and configuring SuSe Linux by simply
ignoring all system crashes, but there seems to be the last question
before winning the princess: How do I mount the floppy ? There is no
problem to mount and unmount /cdrom, but there seems to be no entry in
fstab. In the bootup messages there is a line like "floppy(s) fd0" or
similar.
What will I have to tell the system in order to access a floppy drive ?
Thanks in advance for kind answers.
Gru� HaJo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:18:20 GMT
In article <784kao$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeremy Mathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7838s8$4aq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Geoffrey Kenneth Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Jeremy Mathers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>: That said, I want to be able to download RPM's through Netscape and
>>: have it transferred in Binary mode. If I click on a .tar.gz file, it
>>: immediately pops up a file-save dialog and this is good. When I click
>>: on an RPM, it displays binary garbage onscreen. This tells me that
>>: if I try to save the file, the result will be garbage (it will transfer
>>: in ASCII mode).
>>
>>: And, dear God, why can't there be a simple "Download this file in
>>: Binary mode, dammnit!" option like there is in FTP???
>>
>>When you find the link you want, hold shift while you click it. Problem
>>solved.
>
>Well, not really problem solved, since the goal is to be able to make
>it work seamlessly with RPMs the way it works seamlessly with other
>binary file types (e.g., *.tar.gz).
>
>But, from a purely practical perspective, did you actually test this?
>Do you know that the file gets downloaded in binary (and is, in fact,
>a valid RPM file) ? Although I didn't go through the motion of saving
>it to disk (i.e., fully testing it) on this occasion, my experience in
>the past has always been that if the browser displays it onscreen by
>default, then when you do a "Save to disk", you will get an ASCII transfer.
>Been bitten by it many a time...
Well, it turns out that two things are true:
1) The kludgey solutions - Shift/Click and/or Right/Click and
the appropriate dance - do work. Under Unix it does work OK
(there isn't any Messy DOS in sight, so no worries about ASCII mode).
N.B. Nevertheless, this *is* a problem in DOS/Windows
strains of Netscape.
2) It is a bug in Netscape for Linux (I originally tested this
under 4.0.5, then upgraded to 4.5, but the symptom persists)
that if the file is named something like:
orange.fly_fish.foo.3-1.2.67.rpm
it will not be recognized as having an extension of RPM for
MIME purposes (*). There does not seem to be any workaround.
(*) Worse, this is only true if downloading from a site. We put
together an RPM MIME type and a local .HTML file referring to a local
file with a name such as given above, and it *did* recognize it as a
MIME type. However, the same test when clicking the file on a remote
HTTP site did not work. Strange...
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: [ newsgroups and moderation ]
Date: 20 Jan 1999 15:40:01 -0800
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>>>>> "Nick" == Nick Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nick> Loose Nut wrote: [snip]
>> As for crossposting, get a GOOD newsreader. Mine allows me to
>> kill the retrieval of messages already d/ld'd in other
>> NG's. Hence, I am never bothered by crossposts, cuz I don't get
>> 'em : ) If I have done any
Nick> Sounds good. Which newsreader's that then?
He's using Forte Agent (a Windoze reader). If you have scoring
enabled on your reader, you can score crossposted articles out of
existence, if you wish.
mp
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Why would xfontsel hang?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 22:59:40 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Dreyer) writes:
> Everything else works as always in X, but I just discovered that xfontsel
> doesn't start properly now: It just sits there saying "processing fonts. . ."
> and nothing but the quit botton works.
>
> Any ideas what's broken, or maybe a better font selection program?
Do you have an FPU?
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