Linux-Misc Digest #719, Volume #18 Thu, 21 Jan 99 23:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: can linux recognize fat32? (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: 2038 and Linux (Bloody Viking)
Re: Beowulf Anyone? ("aallen")
Re: Playing mp3 files (Chris Allen)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Erik Naggum)
MP3 for Linux (Mark Robinson)
Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors ("David R. Bergstein")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris Wolfe)
Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office (jedi)
Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors ("David R. Bergstein")
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (Phoenix)
Re: Beowulf Anyone? (Ed Finch)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Jim Richardson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can linux recognize fat32?
Date: 21 Jan 1999 18:18:59 -0800
>: Hi, does linux have support for fat32?
>Yes the type is known as vfat. However you need it to be compiled
>into your kernel, or a module which is loaded.
Also keep in mind you need a more recent kernel to get fat32 support.
Linux 2.0.35 and higher have this support, as vfat.
- Sam
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Mp3 reviews here: http://www.samiam.org/music
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From: Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: 22 Jan 1999 02:21:02 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Bloody Viking wrote:
:> See my original comment above! Maybe you're right. But maybe not. The
:> COBOL coders in 1970 figured we'd all upgrade by Y2K too, and look where
:> we are. And just think of Y10K....
: The problem we have with COBOL programs, actually the WHOLE Y2K issue,
: is that they reference dates as MM/DD/YY not MM/DD/YYYY. Many of the
: cobol interpreters are running on operating systems that are Y2K
: complient. It is just what will these programs do when the are presented
: with 09/13/00? Will they crash? Will they calculate for 99 years? It
: depends on how they were coded.
I do know about the 2 digit years and Y2K.The original coders figured it
would be fixed in upgrades. A miscalculation to be sure.
: The 2038 bug is not in application persistent data storage. A simple OS
: upgrade will fix it. The very worst that will need to be done is a
: backup, reformat, restore of the file system (assuming the file system
: has 32 bit time_t dates). The 2038 bug is very constrained in that it is
: an internal OS issue, not an application issue.
One consequence is that the C compilers will have to be remediated with
the OS. This will mean that apps where you don't have the source can't be
remediated by recompiling. So, you'll have to upgrade. Still, much easier
than hunting down Insectus Millennius in the code like Y2K. Although
easier than the current Y2K, it will be better to do the time_t
remediation now instead of waiting until the last minute. One thing with
apps to watch is having to look for time_t calls for possible remediation.
Still easier than COBOL where date variables are names of girlfriends or
actors.
What I think will happen is that after Y2K and the debacles, things will
calm down and people will forget until the last minute. Good old fashioned
human nature. :) Will it be called Y2K+38? Or just 2038?
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From: "aallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:40:18 GMT
Thanks Ed, just ordered the book - hope they get it to the publishers soon.
Also considering the other book - "In Search of Clusters". Have you read
it?
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From: Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Playing mp3 files
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:36:00 -0500
Chris Eilbeck wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee) writes:
>
> > I've had success, with quality identical to Windows.
> >
> > The application is called X11Amp. Go to freshmeat.net and do a search
> > for it.
> >
> > It's basically an X11 version of WinAmp.
>
> Freeamp is nice, not quite finished but certainly workable and
> visually pleasant.
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Eilbeck
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm using it right now. I haven't had any problems or issues with it at
all.
Chris
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From: Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 21 Jan 1999 03:44:22 +0000
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin C. Weissman)
| I bet that looks great on a resume.
if you optimize your working habits towards what looks good on a resume,
may I suggest that you change some other parts of your behavior so you
don't have to change jobs so often?
#:Erik
--
SIGTHTBABW: a signal sent from Unix to its programmers at random
intervals to make them remember that There Has To Be A Better Way.
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MP3 for Linux
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:01:05 GMT
Are there any MP3 makers for Linux?
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From: "David R. Bergstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:52:38 -0500
Larry wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:13:13 -0500, David R. Bergstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >If it helps at all, I am also seeing similar paging request errors under
> >linux 2.0.36 with an AMD K6-200 and 128MB RAM. I will need to change
> >my syslog.conf to obtain a dump next time it happens (will post).
> >
> I was getting this type of error with a cyrix p166 and finally took the
> processor fan off and cleaned it and the fins and put it back together and
> VOILA, it's been working famously ever since.
That is very interesting - I did use a high quality heat sink grease
when I installed the heat sink / CPU fan unit, but that was over a year
& 1/2 ago. I may try what you suggest.
Thanks,
- David
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David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer and Blues Musician
Rockville, MD
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You!
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From: Chris Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:54:20 -0500
Actually no, based on the misinformation I have already identified from
MS sources I am taking anything they say with a grain of salt. Paterson
says he wrote it (presumably from scratch, he did license it after all),
Killdall says he stole it; well hallelujah, one of the two is stretching
the truth.
My point was that Paterson's article proves nothing, except that he is
sticking to the story that best protects the interests of himself and
his employer. Should I mention the noted personages that, over the last
year, have proven very good at sticking to a bogus story?
You might want to remember what Paul said further up, "excuse me kind
posters for using this nasty word, PROOF." I have seen nothing yet that
is proof of anything; though the strongest evidence was for Killdall's
story.
By the way, Christ's story has coaxed "hallelujah"s out of a lot of
people. Some of them undoubtedly better than you or I.
Chris
Michael Powe wrote:
>
> Hmm, let's see, based on a "hunch," a "gut feeling," you've concluded
> this guy's a liar. You certainly have high standards of proof, don't
> you?
>
> So much for the advanced intelligence of the linux user.
>
> Jesus Christ himself could coax an "hallelujah" out of you.
>
> mp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:54:04 -0800
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:12:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> |Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>
>> Haven't chosen it yet. Just trying to get comments before trying
>> a 70 MB download at home or spending the money for one at work.
Applix, Maxwell & WP8 are all much less harsh on the system.
You might also want to give Siag or Koffice a try.
>
>I've been trying to use StarOffice, but on a sparcstation LX it is
>*painfully* slow. I get much better results using the real Office 97 on
>a SunPC sbus card (I have the 586/133 card, which gives "acceptable"
>performance; I probably would not bother trying to use a slower SunPC card)
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: "David R. Bergstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:55:57 -0500
"David R. Bergstein" wrote:
>
> Larry wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:13:13 -0500, David R. Bergstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >If it helps at all, I am also seeing similar paging request errors under
> > >linux 2.0.36 with an AMD K6-200 and 128MB RAM. I will need to change
> > >my syslog.conf to obtain a dump next time it happens (will post).
> > >
> > I was getting this type of error with a cyrix p166 and finally took the
> > processor fan off and cleaned it and the fins and put it back together and
> > VOILA, it's been working famously ever since.
>
> That is very interesting - I did use a high quality heat sink grease
> when I installed the heat sink / CPU fan unit, but that was over a year
> & 1/2 ago. I may try what you suggest.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - David
BTW, my crash happened earlier today as expected. Here is a dump from my
syslog:
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: general protection: 0000
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: CPU: 0
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: EIP: 0010:[do_no_page+463/808]
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: EFLAGS: 00010246
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: eax: 00000000 ebx: 04f3b080 ecx:
00000400
edx: f2481000
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: esi: 04f3a2b0 edi: f2481000 ebp:
0205c458
esp: 00798f58
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
002b ss:
0018
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Process sendmail (pid: 1801, process
nr: 32, st
ackpage=00798000)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Stack: 0011b6e4 080ac39c 01693398
038c1c0c 0000
2f47 00105025 000c0000 00000000
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: 00105025 00105025 0011212c
038c1c0c 0205
c458 080ac000 00000001 00112010
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: 080ab388 400a3264 080ac390
0012afc3 0169
3398 bfffe614 0010ae40 00798fbc
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Call Trace: [do_no_page+0/808]
[do_page_fault+2
84/736] [do_page_fault+0/736] [sys_newfstat+79/92] [error_code+64/80]
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Code: f3 ab 0b 55 0c 89 54 24 18 89 54
24 1c 8b
44 24 18 0c 40 89
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0092c04c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e048
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0092c04c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e048
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0092c04c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e048
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0092c04c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e048
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0092c04c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e048
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
[ numerous repeated entries snipped ]
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0090064c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e054
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0090064c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e054
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0090064c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e054
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0090064c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e054
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: q = 0090064c
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e054
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: general protection: 0000
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: CPU: 0
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: EIP:
0010:[wake_up_interruptible+53/232]
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: eax: 62614c73 ebx: c7e0c7e0 ecx:
0090064c
edx: c7e0c7e0
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: esi: 04f5e818 edi: 00900648 ebp:
02ae3ec4
esp: 02ae3eb8
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
002b ss:
0018
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Process xlock (pid: 1420, process nr:
35, stack
page=02ae3000)
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Stack: 040cfc0c 04f5e818 00000800
02ae3f28 0013
e4d8 0090064c 040cfc0c 0013f506
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: 040cfc0c 00000800 00000800
00767a00 0076
7a90 00000020 00000046 00000000
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: 00000000 00000000 0229b810
fffffff5 0229
b8d0 081241cc 00000000 00000000
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Call Trace: [def_callback2+24/44]
[unix_sendmsg
+954/988] [sock_write+158/180] [sys_write+339/396] [ide_intr+77/100]
[do_fast_IR
Q+42/76] [system_call+85/128]
Jan 21 16:25:36 bluesman kernel: Code: 8b 02 83 f8 01 75 67 9c 5e fa c7
02 00 00
00 00 83 7a 4c 00
Jan 21 16:25:37 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:37 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:37 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:37 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:37 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:37 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:38 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:38 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:38 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:38 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:38 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:38 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:39 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:39 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:39 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:39 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:39 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:39 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:40 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:40 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:40 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:40 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
Jan 21 16:25:40 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:25:40 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 16:25:41 bluesman kernel: wait_queue is bad (eip = 0013e4d8)
[ snip, many repeated entries again! ]
Jan 21 16:26:32 bluesman kernel: q = 0206194c
Jan 21 16:26:32 bluesman kernel: *q = 04f5e03c
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request
at virtu
al address e4448bfa
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 03218000, ^Lr3 =
03218000
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: *pde = 00000000
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: Oops: 0000
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: CPU: 0
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: EIP: 0010:[__iget+60/544]
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: eax: 00000342 ebx: 24448bfa ecx:
031d9d18
edx: 00000000
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: esi: 002184f8 edi: 00000000 ebp:
0022ccdc
esp: 0321aed0
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
002b ss:
0018
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: Process xntpd (pid: 171, process nr:
16, stackp
age=0321a000)
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: Stack: 00000000 004c4800 00000000
03426500 0016
3a60 00163a7d 0022ccdc 00002f43
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: 00000000 03426500 00000000
00000009 02c4
8005 0012caa2 031d9b18 031d9d18
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: ffffffff 01c2d11c 01c3f238
00163eeb 0342
6500 07dcc005 0000000e 03426500
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: Call Trace: [do_ext2_rename+380/1456]
[do_ext2_
rename+409/1456] [lookup+222/248] [ext2_rename+87/128]
[do_rename+560/604] [sys_
rename+93/132] [system_call+85/128]
Jan 21 18:05:35 bluesman kernel: Code: 66 39 03 75 0d 8b 4c 24 1c 39 4b
04 0f 84
fa 00 00 00 8b 5b
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: general protection: 0000
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: CPU: 0
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: EIP:
0010:[wake_up_interruptible+53/232]
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: eax: 435f5f65 ebx: c7e0c7e0 ecx:
04e88934
edx: c7e0c7e0
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: esi: 04e8831e edi: 04e88930 ebp:
001fec84
esp: 001fec78
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs:
0018 ss:
0018
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0,
stackpa
ge=001fcdf4)
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: Stack: 04e88000 04e8831e 04372003
04372003 0019
405b 04e88934 04e8831c 04e8851c
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: 00000005 001fed2c 00000297
00000ffd 0000
0003 00000fff 001fed2c 0017c336
Jan 21 21:11:04 bluesman kernel: 00000046 00000000 f8fe9400
0040f398 0019
c95a 002233ac 00000001 00000006
--
David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer and Blues Musician
Rockville, MD
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SE & Blues Musician Home Page Heart of Blue - Playin' the Blues for
You!
http://www.erols.com/dbergst http://heartofblue.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:55:55 -0600
From: Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Kelly and Sandy wrote:
> However I would like to use "joe" by the sound of it. I have done a
>
> locate joe
>
> on my standard Red Hat 5.2 installation, but nothing was found. How do
> I go about getting Linux to understand "joe"? I have a feeling "RPM" is
> going to be in the answers.
>
Joe is on the RH 5.2 CD but if i remember right it is not installed by
default so
you should be able to pull the RPM off of it instead of downloading it.
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From: Ed Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:01:45 -0500
aallen wrote:
>
> Thanks Ed, just ordered the book - hope they get it to the publishers soon.
> Also considering the other book - "In Search of Clusters". Have you read
> it?
I've thumbed through it at the local bookstore and am going to order it
through BookPool, http://www.bookpool.com via a bulk purchase with
some coworkers. I was disappointed to see that O'Reilly's "High
Performance Computing, 2nd Edition" neglects Beowulf though.
Regards,
Ed
--
Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft operating systems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 21 Jan 1999 02:57:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:55:06 GMT,
Festus van Landingham, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>
>Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
>>it's hard to find a keyboard with the keys labelled as such theses
>>days. on the other hand, it is very easy to remap the keys. in X use
>>xmodmap to swap caps lock and control. in console mode, there is a
>>keyboard map file (in /usr/lib/kbd/ somewhere i believe. hack the
>>`us' keymap to swap caps lock and control).
>>
>>i too use emacs. i even remapped the keys on windows nt since i use
>>emacs at work too.
>
>Do emacs users not type captial letters or does emacs not support
>capital letters?
>
>--
how often do you need more that one or two caps in a row?
(also, you can remap keys on the fly in emacs if you need to.)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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