Linux-Misc Digest #719, Volume #21                Tue, 7 Sep 99 20:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Network Block Device; File Size = 0? ("Ted Pavlic")
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Graffiti)
  Re: A simple way to upload multiple files per ftp (Vic Mortelmans)
  Re: Running a program on a SGI from a PC with LINUX system (Grant Edwards)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Help with CD drives. (AngryMob)
  i broke my libraries! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  gnome development environment ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Anonymous ftp home directory contents (Chris Pott)
  Re: Maintaining 2 Networks (winrip)
  Re: Connection Limit? ("Karl Waskiewicz")
  Re: Sun can't handle StarOffice (Bob Tennent)
  linuxarchives or msarchives????? (Hans Wolters)
  Re: RealAudio v.5 help (A Guy Called Tyketto)
  moving directories to new partition (Ted)
  Re: Boot/Root Rescue Question (Mark Post)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Terrance Richard Boyes)
  IBM Aptiva with MWAVE ans Suse ("FVL")
  Re: Connection Limit? (Bob Hauck)
  Re: i broke my libraries! (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Rennie Allen)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Aram Iskenderian)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Philip Brown)
  Re: Shutdown Problem (Graffiti)
  Re: You think I shouln invest in Red Hat? (William Burrow)
  ATI 3D 128 Support (Guy Rodnay)

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From: "Ted Pavlic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network Block Device; File Size = 0?
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:04:34 -0400

I have two machines. Both are running 2.2.12.

I want one to serve as a nbd-server for a device that's about 500MB. (I'm
just doing a test)

I want the other one to serve as an nbd-client for that device.

I installed the latest nbd-server and nbd-client on both machines.
(nbd.12.tar.gz) I compiled the client machine's kernel with NBD support. I
did a:

mknod /dev/nd0 b 43 0

On the client to create the network block device.

I'm running the nbd-server from inetd. When I use the nbd-client from the
client, I get:

Negotiation: ..size = 0

And nothing is logged. On the server, this is logged to the info.log and
daemon.log (RH6.0 systems):

Sep  7 16:21:10 nw02 nbd-server[18803]: connect from 216.69.192.201
Sep  7 16:21:10 nw02 nbd_server[18803]: connect from 216.69.192.201,
assigned file is /dev/sda1
Sep  7 16:21:10 nw02 nbd_server[18803]: size of exported file/device is 0

When I try to write to the /dev/nd0 on the client, it reports that there is
no space left on disk.

Why is by server /dev/sda1 ...

/dev/sda1             1        64    514048+  83  Linux

being exported with a file size of 0?

Any help? Thanks so much. All the best --
Ted





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From: Graffiti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 7 Sep 1999 11:03:46 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Lizard wrote:
>> Now, on to software. First off, has anyone thought of putting in the
>> INSTALL text file words to the effect of "you better untar this from /,
>> otherwise, you'll end up creating a zillion useless directories where you
>> don't want them because there's no way to tell tar to go to the root to
>> start?" Apparently not. Do not assume your users intuitively know where

Yup, too bad tar doesn't have something like the -C option that tells it to
use its argument as the root directory, thustly: tar zxf foo.tar.gz -C /
Yup, too bad...

>Software for unix is supposed to go in /usr/local/src (or /opt) by
>convention. Putting it anywhere else is just stupid, in my opinion. There's
>no need to put something in /bin (which I believe should be reserved for
>'vendor supplied software') that should be in /usr/local/bin. If you really
>want it in /bin make a link.

The point of putting it in /bin is that the root filesystem is available
before /usr, so you can use any tools you put in there for system recovery
if something really bad happens.

Besides, /opt and /usr/local/src are, as you said, conventions.  People
don't have to follow it (and I rarely do).

>> Why the SMEG does X write output to STDOUT when you can't SEE it until you
>> leave X? At the very least, the user should have the option of all error

Because you have no guarantee that X is running an capable of displaying stuff.
Having it on console lets you debug it, just as logging in from another
system and starting X remotely to view the output in a shell.  Useful.

>It really doesn't matter. Try
>
>% startx | tee .X.err
>
>vi .X.err

Which doesn't grab errors. :-)

startx 2>&1 | tee startx.log

-- DN

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From: Vic Mortelmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.servers.general,redhat.general
Subject: Re: A simple way to upload multiple files per ftp
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:56:23 +0200

Alex wrote:
> 
> Can somebody tell me a simple way to upload a filesystem tree with multiple
> files. I have to do it periodically, so I wan't to do it with the help
> of cron.
> 
> ------------------  Posted via CNET Linux Help  ------------------
>                     http://www.searchlinux.com

You should try Midnight Commander. cd'ing into
ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you can select multiple files or
directories and copy, move, delete like in an ordinary file-system on
your system!

And this ftp-client can serve as a great file-manager as well :)

Greetings,

Vic

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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Running a program on a SGI from a PC with LINUX system
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 21:36:53 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sylvain Haudegond wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>Do anyone know if it's possible to run a program on a Silicon Graphics
>(Indigo XS24/R4000 with Irix5.3) from a PC with Linux 6.0. Does the rlogin
>command work for this ? Are these two systems "compatible" ?

Yes they are compatible. You can use rsh or telnet to go from
one machine to the other (either direction).  You can also run
X11 applications (graphical stuff) on one machine and have the
windows show up on the other.

NOTE: Some IRIX X11 apps use a propietary SGI graphics protocol
called GL. GL apps can't be displayed on Linux.  OpenGL apps
can, but you have to buy an XServer that supports OpenGL.  The
run-of-the mill X stuff (netscape, xterm, whatever) will work
fine in both directions.  GL and OpenGL are for 3D stuff
generally.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  What I need is a
                                  at               MATURE RELATIONSHIP with a
                               visi.com            FLOPPY DISK...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 21:42:23 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

-- snip --

> Most folks want . . . to be able to install, run, and if necessary
> uninstall their tools - word processors, spreadsheets, whatver -
> without *having* to know how the system works.

Sort of like a car owner wanting to install a fuel injection system or
headers on his car without having to know how a car works?

Or a homeowner installing a forced-air furnace or central air
conditioning in his house without knowing how his house is built?

-- snip --

Curtis

&#137;


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From: AngryMob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with CD drives.
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:45:59 -0700

I have two cd rom drives in my SuSe system, the first one is a generic
40x IDE device which is attached to the primary slave channel. and my
second one is a Acer 2x6x CD-Writer, it also works on an IDE interface
and is attatched to my secondary master channel. My problem is I can
only use my 40x with linux, by using mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom, how do I
get Linux to reconize that I have 2 CD-Rom drives, and how do I mount
the second one? I'm pretty sure Linux can access my CD-writer drive
because it works in the Yast linux setup program. And is there any
special thing I need to do to use the CD-RW with my Linux CD creation
programs?  Thanks


am


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: i broke my libraries!
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 21:46:58 GMT

I think I broke a few of my libraries. When I try to compile Glib 1.2.3
(for Gtk), I get a lot of undefined reference to a lot of things
starting with _pthread. When I try to compile WindowMaker, I get
undefined reference to something in libX11. This all started after I
installed glibc2.11 (i'm using slackware, it only came with libc 5) and
gcc 2.95.1 (i compiled gcc right after installing glibc2.11, and it
compiled fine). Help me!

Artit J.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gnome development environment
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:05:20 GMT

Hi,

I have two questions that I appreciate if you directly
email me the responses:

1. Is GNOME only for linux or it being used on unix also?.
2. How can i start learning it?.

Thank You,
Habib M.


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From: Chris Pott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Anonymous ftp home directory contents
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:08:32 -0700



Hello...

I inadvertantly (ok, boneheadedly) removed my /home/ftp directory.

I recreated it, and copied /bin/ls and /bin/sh to /home/ftp/bin/, world
executable, but still can get no listing via anonymous login.

Is there any way to easily recreate the entire /home/ftp/ directory
tree? 

If not, could someone post the output from an "ls -laR /home/ftp"
command so I can see what files I need to copy to make this work again?

I'm using wu-ftpd-2.4.2vr17-3.ppc, in case that's relevant.

Thanks heaps,

Chris

-- 
Chris Pott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: winrip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Maintaining 2 Networks
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:46:33 -0400

>

OK my computer looks like this for dial up, I never have to bring things up and down to
connect..

these files are in /etc/sysconfig.

network
NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4="yes"
HOSTNAME="pprosvr.winrip.cx"         (IP set for 192.168.0.110)
DOMAINNAME=winrip.cx
GATEWAY="209.64.42.143"
GATEWAYDEV=""

routed
EXPORT_GATEWAY="yes"
SILENT="no"


static-routes
any net 209.64.42.2 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 209.64.42.143 (which means it looks at ppp0 
or
eth0 for the agteway)

this is an example of a computer on my network that uses pprosvr as the gateway to the
Internet.
(it also is a gateway for another internal network, but for simplicity sake)

network
NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4="no"
HOSTNAME="p233.winrip.cx"
DOMAINNAME=winrip.cx
GATEWAY=192.168.0.110
GATEWAYDEV=eth1

routed
EXPORT_GATEWAY="no"
SILENT="yes"

static-routes
eth1 net 192.168.0.110 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.110 (which means it needs to 
look
to pprosvr for Inet connectivity)


With this configuration I have five machines inside that use IP 192.168.0.110 to reach 
the
Inet, all interfaces stay up, I never have to bring them down. I use a hosts file and 
the
other machines can query 192.168.0.110 for addresses, which inturn makes 192.168.0.110 
ask
my ISP's DNS for the data.


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From: "Karl Waskiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Connection Limit?
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:48:03 GMT

/var/log/messages

Sep  7 05:51:07 2000 inetd[366]: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
Sep  7 05:59:52 2000 last message repeated 3 times
Sep  7 06:00:55 2000 last message repeated 20 times
Sep  7 06:02:07 2000 last message repeated 21 times
Sep  7 06:03:47 2000 last message repeated 41 times
Sep  7 06:04:48 2000 last message repeated 51 times
Sep  7 06:04:52 2000 last message repeated 3 times
Sep  7 06:04:53 2000 inetd[366]: ftp/tcp server failing (looping), service
terminated
Sep  7 06:17:24 2000 inetd[366]: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
Sep  7 06:17:55 2000 last message repeated 29 times
...

And that just goes on and on when the apache "Requests currently being
processed" reaches 467.

I'll try adjusting NR_TASKS to see if that'll do the trick...

Karl



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun can't handle StarOffice
Date: 7 Sep 1999 18:21:30 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca

On 7 Sep 1999 17:40:24 GMT, Steve Conley wrote:
 >
 >Sun, you look like total idiots hyping your StarOffice giveaway and then
 >not having the server and/or network muscle to make good on it.  

Indeed.

 >I think this would be a good time to reconsider your SCSL-ing of
 >StarOffice.  If you would really like the kind of distribution necessary
 >to make a dent in the MS Office market, then use an open source license.
 >Suddenly you will find mirror sites for StarOffice all over the world!

Not to speak of developers who otherwise won't even look at your "community" 
licensed code.  

Bob T.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: linuxarchives or msarchives?????
Date: 7 Sep 1999 22:58:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


This is weird,

Some time ago I subsribed to the newsletter from linuxarchives. This
night I got the first newsletter, wow let's read it....

I'm proudly opening their mail within xfmail (yep, still point &
click) and started to read. 

LinuxArchives.com � September 1999 Newsletter

[blabla]

In this edition of LinuxArchives.com News:

 1. Sponsor Message

[blabla]

Please support our sponsors who make it possible for you to receive this
newsletter at no cost.

 This edition of LinuxArchives News is sponsored by:
ALEXA



Alexa is a FREE Web navigation service that works with your browser and
accare viewing and suggesting related sites. Navigate the Web more efficiently
ompanies you as you surf, providing useful information about the sites you
........

etc, etc...

Remebering the bad old days when I was using that other OS I was
wondering if Alexa was ported to linux so I started my browser and
guess what I found....

MSIE version
Netscape version (windows os)
Mac version

And no, there was no Linux version.

I can understand the company that's selling/releasing Alexa but what I
don't understand is that a well known (maybe just my stupid opinion) 
linuxsite is using such a sponser... I will unsubscribe the letter
without even reading the rest of it. YUK

Chau Hans
-- 
     Linux / Com21 / CMI8330 / FAQ/Linux search / Netbus detector
              http://linux.gelrevision.nl/faqen/index.php3

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A Guy Called Tyketto)
Subject: Re: RealAudio v.5 help
Date: 7 Sep 1999 18:23:01 -0500

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TA Ruhland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Peter Schaffter wrote:
> > 
> > I downloaded the RealAudio player version 5.0 for Linux from
> > the RealAudio website.  To my dismay, I discovered that the
> > executable seems to be linked to libg++27 and libstdc++2.7.
> > 
> > Space is at a premium on my HD, and I don't want to install the
> > old libc5 just in order to get libg++27 and libstdc++2.7 on my
> > system so I can run RealAudio v.5. (Currently, I have libg++272,
> > libstdc++2.8, and libstdc++2.9; Debian distro.)
> > 
> > Why is RealAudio v.5 linked against the older libc5 instead of
> > libc6?  And does anyone know of a RA version that _is_ linked
> > against libc6?

        At the time, libc5, was the only stable libc available, so once
it was created, Real saw no other reasons why to update it, I believe.

> You could try the G2 beta for Linux. It works for me. I am running
> Mandrake 6.0.

        Only problem with this, is that G2, is linked against glibc-2.0.
It tells you to re-link, and dumps core, with glibc-2.1.1. Going to try
glibc-2.1.2 later, as the announcement for it, states it should be
compatible with glibc-2.0.

                                                        BL.
- -- 
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Unix Systems Administrator,             |            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WebMaster, NewsMaster.. Smeghead! :)    |   http://www.omnilinx.net/~tyketto
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From: Ted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: moving directories to new partition
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:31:11 GMT

I just cleared a partition from my hard drive, so now I have two ext2 
partitions, and I want to move the /home and /misc to the new partition. 
How should I go about doing that?

Thanks,
Ted Roden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Boot/Root Rescue Question
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:42:51 GMT

On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 21:38:05 -0400, Jeffrey Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I am attempting to create a boot/root disk pair that I can
>use to resuscitate my system in the event of a disk problem.
-snip-
>Here is my current problem:
>The kernel boots fine from the boot disk, and the kernel asks for the
>root floppy as expected.  The kernel seems  to load the root disk OK
>then reports the following error:

>    Warning: unable to open initial console.

At the risk of looking really dumb, are you sure that you have a console
defined in your /dev directory?  After my first install of Slackware from a
really old CD that I borrowed from a friend, there was no console defined in
/dev.  Why, I don't know, but once I did a makedev for it, things looked a
lot more informative during the boot process.

Mark Post

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terrance Richard Boyes)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:58:06 +0100 (BST)

Jon Skeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> On the PC, there is no mechanism to define a file which happens to have
>> been saved in text mode with the extension .html as being plain text,

> <snip>

> You keep talking about "the PC" as if there's only one operating system 

And you as though "IBM clones" are the only thing that can be
called a PC.

-- 
<URL:http://www.pierrot.co.uk/>                                  Team AMIGA
To the landlord belong the doorknobs.


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From: "FVL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM Aptiva with MWAVE ans Suse
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:37:28 +0200

I use a IBM Aptiva with a mwave soundcard/modem with Suse 6.0. Can someone
tell me how to configurate the card?




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From: Bob Hauck <b o b h @ w a s a t c h . c o m>
Subject: Re: Connection Limit?
Date: 07 Sep 1999 17:02:00 -0600

"Karl Waskiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /var/log/messages
> 
> Sep  7 05:51:07 2000 inetd[366]: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable


> And that just goes on and on when the apache "Requests currently being
> processed" reaches 467.
> 
> I'll try adjusting NR_TASKS to see if that'll do the trick...

Could also be running out of file descriptors.  I had a server that was
also running named (bind 8.1) and it was opening a couple of file
descriptors for each virtual interface.  There were over 150 of
those...ouch!

Telling named to just listen on one IP got rid of that problem.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| Wasatch Communications Group
 -| http://www.wasatch.com/~bobh

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: i broke my libraries!
Date: 7 Sep 1999 19:00:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7r414e$6t5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think I broke a few of my libraries. When I try to compile Glib 1.2.3
> (for Gtk), I get a lot of undefined reference to a lot of things
> starting with _pthread. When I try to compile WindowMaker, I get
> undefined reference to something in libX11. This all started after I
> installed glibc2.11 (i'm using slackware, it only came with libc 5) and
> gcc 2.95.1 (i compiled gcc right after installing glibc2.11, and it
> compiled fine).

Yes, none of your old (libc5) libraries -- e.g., the X libraries -- 
are useful with glibc-2.x.  You should read the documentation in the 
source distribution; the FAQ is also online at
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/glibc/glibc-faq.html .

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Rennie Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.realtime,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:05:36 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Casper)  wrote on 06.09.99 in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > "GM" == "Guy Macon" writes:
>
> ... and for some reason I don't tend to see that ...
>
> GM>> Linux: Lots of things don't bring down the OS when they crash.
> GM>> Some things (like drivers) do.
>
> Actually, *most* driver crashes (and those are seldom enough to start
> with) *do not* bring the system down. (Say, a NULL pointer reference
that
> doesn't happen inside a (usually small) interrupt routine; this
generates
> a so-called "Oops", but not a kernel panic.)

OK, that's fine for NULL pointer de-references, what about (the more
typical), invalid pointer de-reference, one that points into the middle
of a PTE for instance ?

The point is not that there are ways in Linux that a driver might not
corrupt the kernel.  The point is that in QNX there is practically no
way that a driver can corrupt the kernel (the exception being a
protection violation in the interrupt handler of the driver).  As you
mention, interrupt handlers are usually small (on the order of 20-40
lines of 'C').

>
> If the driver is a module, you can even sometimes remove and reinstall
the
> driver - it depends on what happened to the module use count in the
course
> of the crash.

Again, "depending on what happened..." you might be able to re-start the
driver.  In QNX you can almost always re-start the driver (the above
described exception applies here also).

--
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of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aram Iskenderian)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:34:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 06 Sep 99 09:32:35 -0500, 
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
"Timothy Rue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 04-Sep-99 10:46:12 Juergen Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JF> x-no-archive: yes
>
>
>Juergen, I don't believe your x-no-archive is making it into
>functionality.
>
>It seems to show up in the message body instead.
>
>You might check Deja to help verify. As I believe anything making it into
>Deja is archivable.
>

How about you refrain from talking about things that you don't have any
clue in?

Look at facts:

http://www.deja.com/msgid.xp?MID=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

____________________

Document not found.
____________________

Tell me what that means.

FYI, Juergen is using Forte Free Agent.
Look at this line in the header.

X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235


If you had any clue about that, Free Agent has no way of preventing
deja.com from archiving the post.

Most of the databases honor the 
x-no-archive: yes

Request if was in the body of the message.

The fact is that you being able to retrieve the message and read it,
doesn't mean that it will be archived by default, learn the difference,
instead of spewing all this nonsense.
You see red everytime someone practices his right of privacy, and start
your conspiracy theories based on your read problems.

And to the people in comp.os.qnx and comp.os.linux.misc, apologies for
the inconvenience, as Timothy Rue, has apparently invaded your news
groups too.







--

Aram Iskenderian.
To email, hit reply, check the email address and add "r" somewhere.
Enjoying the speed of ADSL.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:59:25 GMT

On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:28:19 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On 04-Sep-99 10:46:12 Juergen Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  JF> x-no-archive: yes
>> 
>> 
>> Juergen, I don't believe your x-no-archive is making it into
>> functionality.
>> 
>> It seems to show up in the message body instead.
>
>That's okay - I believe x-no-archive is supposed to be accepted if it's 
>either in headers or in the first line of the body.

but personally, I find dejanews[etc] extremely useful as a research tool.
So to anyone who does not make a habit of flaming newbies into dust, I
would recommend and request that you do NOT have an x-no-archive header.
It greatly reduced the value of your post to people who just happen to
read the newsgroup 2 weeks after you post, instead of 2 days after you post.



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From: Graffiti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Shutdown Problem
Date: 7 Sep 1999 11:32:54 -0700

In article <7r1moj$jhk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>There's /tmp and there's /var/tmp and some packages prefer to use $HOME
>as a simple way to avoid temp races, but no software should use
>anything else.  When I find software that uses another location (like
>the 2-D CAD package CCDraft for AIX/HP-UX) I do the symlink thing.

<RANT>
What really pisses me off is that most software continue to use /tmp or
$HOME/.app-name instead of $TMPDIR.  $TMPDIR isn't even "standard" on
lynx.  It has $LYNXTMPDIR, which can be set to $TMPDIR in the lynx.cfg
file.
</RANT>

I've been considering chmod'ing /tmp to 0 and seeing what breaks, but the
amount of time that'll take is daunting.  Hopefully, people will get around
to doing that before I do and start submitting patches... *hint,hint* :-)

-- DN

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: You think I shouln invest in Red Hat?
Date: 7 Sep 1999 18:36:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 7 Sep 1999 14:32:01 GMT,
Ian Falu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You must be a computer geek!

Are you hoping or just being insulting?

Look, if you want to invest in Linux IPOs, then you have to keep in mind
that Linux is not yet mature, it is still developing and changing.  You
want to look at companies that have track records (keeping in mind that
past performance does not indicate future performance) of making
advancements that are accepted by the Linux community, that can keep
abreast of events in the community and can fill some niche or need in
the real world without overextending themselves.  You might think of
other qualities, but surely these are things a business admin student
can handle.


-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: Guy Rodnay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI 3D 128 Support
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:10:42 +0200

Hi,

Does anyone know of a solution for using ATI 3D 128 under XFree86? I don't
care about speed. Just make it work in any mode.

Thanks, 
Guy.


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