Linux-Misc Digest #719, Volume #26                Fri, 5 Jan 01 23:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Re: output to /dev/nul (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: That worked for me... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Journalled Filesystem on a laptop (Christian Mosmann)
  Re: Journalled Filesystem on a laptop (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: RH 6.2/7.0 rescue CD weirdness (Dances With Crows)
  Re: php + apache on redhat problem ("News")
  Re: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98. ("muzh")
  Re: "no space left on disk" .. but there is (Herb Stein)
  Re: Linux 6.2 (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: FTP connect does not work in RH6.2??? (Herb Stein)
  Q: framebuffer consoles (Dimitri Maziuk)
  ftp but not telnet ("datagram")
  Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Modules in RH7 (E J)
  Re: Lost root password. ("Ingo Brand")
  Re: output to /dev/nul ("Christopher W. Aiken")
  Re: Linuxgruven ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why did SawFish become default in RedHat, instead of Enlightenment ? 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: output to /dev/nul (Steve Connet)
  Re: auto run ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Lost root password. ("Chris")
  Problem installing WindowMaker in Mdk 7.2... (Guy Parry)
  Re: "no space left on disk" .. but there is (Carl Fink)

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: output to /dev/nul
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 02:06:21 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> =

> In comp.os.linux.misc blix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I tend to run a lot of my applications from an xterm (Eterm) window. =
Like
> > this:
> =

> > pan&
> =

> > But some of them write to stdout which causes my xterm to fill up wit=
h
> > text from various applications. I tried to do this:
> =

> > pan& > /dev/nul
> =

> > But it said permission denied. Does I need to chmod of the /dev/nul
> > device/file or whatever it is so that my blix user can redirect stdou=
t to
> > it?
> =

> That should be /dev/null not /dev/nul

Some program also write to stderr (file descriptor 2) so you may
als want to try:

    pan & 2>&1 > /dev/null

Erik
-- =

+----------------------------------------------------------+
  Erik de Castro Lopo  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes its valid)
+----------------------------------------------------------+
"A program invented (sic) by a Finnish computer hacker and handed out
free =

in 1991 cost investors in Microsoft $11 billion (=A36.75 billion) this
week."
  -- Andrew Butcher in the UK's Sunday Times, Feb 20th, 1999

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: That worked for me...
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 01:53:24 GMT

Your welcome.

In article <92sr53$vin$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This worked like a charm. Thanks for your help
> from the guy you didn't know you were helping!
>
> I've been learning on Redhat 6 and 7 and have
> really been wanting to move to Debian. It's people
> helping like you that make the move possible for
> semi-newbies like me.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> > You must install rep package.
> >
> > apt-get install rep
> > apt-get install librep-dev
> >
> > Benoit Chesneau.
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
>


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: Christian Mosmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Journalled Filesystem on a laptop
Date: 6 Jan 2001 02:01:56 GMT

In comp.os.linux.portable Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb folgendes:
> Also, can I have Reiser as the root filesystem?

Yes, you have to compile Reiser into the Kernel or load
your system with the help of a ramdisk...

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Journalled Filesystem on a laptop
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 02:13:40 GMT

Christian Mosmann wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.portable Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb 
>folgendes:
> > Also, can I have Reiser as the root filesystem?
> 
> Yes, you have to compile Reiser into the Kernel or load
> your system with the help of a ramdisk...

Cool!!!! I was just about to download the latest 2.4 kernel sources
(been running the 2.4-test series for a while).

I'm going to install it on a spare partition and really test it 
out before trusting my development enviroment to it.

Thanks,
Erik
-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------+
  Erik de Castro Lopo  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes its valid)
+----------------------------------------------------------+
"Testing can prove the presence of bugs, but never their absence."
  -- Edsger Dijkstra

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: RH 6.2/7.0 rescue CD weirdness
Date: 6 Jan 2001 02:15:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:48:25 -1000, Roger Davis staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>Does anyone know of an easy way to access your machine's hard disk
>when booting up a RedHat 6.2 or 7.0 installation CD in rescue mode?
>It seems to me that repairing your hard drive is just about the
>only reason one would ever boot up a rescue CD, but believe it or
>not, RedHat's 6.2 and 7.0 installation CDs' /dev directories do not
>contain any hda* devices, so there's no way to access the disk!
>
>I was able to get around this by mknod'ing my own hda* devices,
>but this seems like a lot of work to get at something that ought
>to be there to begin with. Am I missing something here? The Slackware
>7.1 CD does not have this problem.

http://open-projects.linuxcare.com/BBC/
http://www.toms.net/rb/

Many distros' rescue systems leave something to be desired.  A message I
read the other day said that RH's rescue system didn't have SCSI tape
support available, either.  The top link leads to the "emacs" of Linux
rescue systems, while the one at the bottom leads to the "vi".  It's
often handy to have one or both at hand, and yes, these have all the
standard device nodes, tar, SCSI tape support, common SCSI and Ethernet
card support, and the Discordian Date Program (fnord).

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: "News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: php + apache on redhat problem
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 02:20:02 GMT


"Londonboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:n6936.169012$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running RedHat 7, and I installed the PHP 4.0.3 (rpm) but it seems do
> not come with the modules for Apache (I am running 1.3.16)? I only have
the
> command line version I assume.
>
> Anyone know where can I download the PHP modules for Apache on RedHat? I
> don't want to compile the source code. Anyone help? thanks a lot.
>
> NB
>
>

The modules for PHP with Apache are contained in the rpm called "mod_php"
(or something similar).  The "official" php for redhat 7 is available at
redhat 7 errata (go to http://www.redhat.com/errata) as well as the mod_php
rpm to go along with it.



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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98.
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 15:30:26 +1300

I'm not sure if RH7.0 supports ATA100
Assuming it does,  use the first hard disk for windows, the second for
linux.
Install windows first, then linux.
You do not need a common partition for both disks.  Just make sure the
linux installer doesn't wipe out the windows disk -- this usually means
choosing "custom" or similar from the install options.
Hope this helps

Recently, the keys of "gataway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 's computer
randomly danced and produced <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :

> I'm going to setup a new system with two ATA 100 harddisk, one for win
> 98 the other for  Linux RH7.I'm planning to have BootMAgic and Partition
> Magic install . So which OS do i install first? And what partition is
> needed for noth win98SE and Linux? Can i have and exmaple of how much
> space for each partition? I will Install most of the application and
> games on win98SE ,as for linux i am a newbie still need to explore more
> about it.Kindly give me a senerio on what to do.
> 
> 


-- 
Never trust a man in a suit

cll

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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "no space left on disk" .. but there is
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:33:15 -0600

Can we ask what the problem is that you are trying to solve?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:20:23 GMT Daniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>Now when I try to do "rm * -f" it tells me "rm: Argument list too long".
> >>What should I do??
>
> > There are several possible answers, but the one that springs to my
> > mind is
>
> >       find . -name "*" -exec rm {} \;
>
> > DO NOT USE THIS without care, because it's just as dangerous as "rm
> > *".
>
> find . -empty -exec rm {} \;
>
> might be more appropriate in this situation....
> That way, it won'd delete files with valuable info, such as logs, but will
> delete all the empty files.
> --
> |                          |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
> |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    |in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
> |                          |can't move, with no hope of rescue.             |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)|Consider how lucky you are that life has been   |
> |           in             |good to you so far...                           |
> |    Computer Science      |   -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|


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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux 6.2
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:37:24 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > Heinz Rawe wrote:
> >>
> >> spawn schrieb:
> >> >
> >> > 1.How do i change user, and user password,and root password.
> >> >   on a linux 6.2 machine.
> >>
> >> What does it mean, linux 6.2?
> >>
> > Red Hat Linux users seem to think the Red Hat release numbers have
> > meaning to the broader Linux community. "linux 6.2" almost certainly
> > means the stuff you get with the Red Hat Linux 6.2 package.
> 
> But then, it could just as easily be SuSE 6.2 (like wot I'm using).
> 
Right. That is why unidentified strings of digits with dots here and
there in them is not really a satisfactory way to identify an OS, a
kernel (if you consider the term OS to include more than the kernel), or
an environment.

Even if I say I am running Red Hat Linux 6.0 with a
kernel-2.2.14-VA.5.1smp, you do not know what I am really running, but I
spare everyone my posting of every package installed on this machine.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 9:30pm up 2 days, 4:09, 2 users, load average: 2.20, 2.11, 2.35

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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP connect does not work in RH6.2???
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:37:02 -0600

And don't forget to send SIGHUP to inetd.

William Rhodes wrote:

> I hate to mention this, but have you looked at your /etc/shells file?  If you are
> using tcsh, for example, then you'll need to add it to your shells file in order to
> be able to ftp into the machine.  Either that or chsh to one of the shells that are
> listed.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> -B
>
> Bill Tangren wrote:
>
> > ditto. It doesn't work for me either (though I have RH 7). The troubling thing
> > for me is that I have 3 linux boxes, and ftp doesn't work on only one of them.
> > I can't figure out why.
> >
> > Bill Tangren
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > In article <92tl05$n32$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GOBACO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > >i have the same problem.  i followed the hosts.allow and hosts.deny
> > >settings and it still didn't work.
> > >
> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >  Stephane Montpetit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Check your /etc/hosts.allow  and /etc/hosts.deny files.
> > >> Must have these:
> > >>
> > >> hosts.deny:
> > >>
> > >> ALL: ALL
> > >>
> > >> hosts.allow:
> > >>
> > >> ALL: 127.0.0.1
> > >> ALL: 192.168.0.
> > >> in.ftpd: ALL
> > >>
> > >> If you want to be able to telnet your Linux box from anywhere on
> > >> internet, you can add:
> > >> in.telnetd: ALL    in your hosts.allow file.
> > >>
> > >> You can e-mail me if you need any help.
> > >>
> > >> Happy new year!!!!!!!
> > >>
> > >> Bo Berglund a �crit :
> > >>
> > >> > I have just installed RH 6.2 workstation and I am testing it out
> > >from
> > >> > a Win NT box over the internal LAN.
> > >> > I can get Telnet login to work, but whatever I do when I try FTP I
> > >> > don't get connected.
> > >> > I am using Ws_Ftp32 on my NT machine and as soon as I click the
> > >> > connect button there is a lot of disk activity on the Linux machine
> > >> > but eventually there is no connect.... :-(
> > >> > Here is the log from Ws_Ftp32:
> > >> >
> > >> > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0
> > >> > WS_FTP95 LE 4.50 97.05.17, Copyright � 1992-1997 Ipswitch, Inc.
> > >> > - -
> > >> > connecting to 192.168.0.1 ...
> > >> > Connected to 192.168.0.1 port 21
> > >> >
> > >> > ! Connection failed
> > >> >
> > >> > I have checked that ftp is switched on in inetd.conf, but where can
> > >I
> > >> > set up permissions and such (if that is what is failing)???
> > >> >
> > >> > Bo Berglund
> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >Sent via Deja.com
> > >http://www.deja.com/
> > >
> >
> > Bill Tangren
> > U.S.Naval Observatory


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dimitri Maziuk)
Subject: Q: framebuffer consoles
Date: 6 Jan 2001 02:36:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,
anyone can tell me how to run fbset at boot time on all virtual consoles?
ISTR doing something similar, but that was ages ago and neurons got recycled
by now.

TIA
Dima
-- 
@home: dmaziuk at crosswinds dot net
@work: dmaziuk at bmrb dot wisc dot edu

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From: "datagram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ftp but not telnet
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 02:40:41 GMT

Hi,
is it possible to stop people accessing ftp vas telnet ?

I know the answer is yes ... how ?
links ? docs ? any help is greately appreciated.

Thanks.



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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:44:55 -0500

Roger Davis wrote (in part):
 
> This may just be one of the most perverse 'feature's I've ever
> encountered. I am sorry to say that after wrestling with this
> and several other serious bugs for the last three days, I am
> giving up on Drive Image. It may work for Windows filesystems
> but it's virtually useless at backing up Linux partitions. 

I used to work somewhere where we used a volcopy utility for backups.
Our machines had three removable pack hard drives, and one was a hot
spare. We did a volcopy /dev/hda /dev/hdc (or the equivalent in those
days), and it made an exact copy of what was on one drive onto the
other. We did it because it was very fast (because it pretty much
skipped the Unix file system and just copied disk blocks in order.

One disadvantage was that if there was fragmentation, restoring left the
fragmentation in place. The advantage of doing a find | cpio was that if
you then did a mkfs onto a damaged (by software errors) drive, and a
cpio back, the fragmentation was removed. If Drive Image does what
volcopy did. (I notice that volcopy no longer exists. Probably just as
well.)

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 9:35pm up 2 days, 4:14, 2 users, load average: 2.09, 2.12, 2.28

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modules in RH7
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 02:53:55 GMT

It is located in /etc/modules.conf

Maris Orbidans wrote:

> hello
>
> Does anyone know how to configure which modules to load during startup of
> Red Hat 7.0 ?
>
> I didn't find /etc/rc.d/rc.modules  nor modules.conf  file.
>
> thanx
>
> --
> Maris


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From: "Ingo Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lost root password.
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 03:59:29 +0100

if you have a linux-boot-disk, you can boot from this disk, mount the
harddiskpartition where /etc/ is located and the delete/replace the password
for root in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.

hope it will work afterwards...

cya, ingo

"Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:<935ffo$3e1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

> Subject says it all, is there any way to recover the box's root account

> without having to reinstall?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Chris

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>

>




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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: output to /dev/nul
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:09:23 -0500


I believe it is /dev/null ( 2 l's)

If you are using bash then try the syntax:

(pan 1>/dev/null 2>&1) &

--
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Current O/S: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2




On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, blix wrote:

->I tend to run a lot of my applications from an xterm (Eterm) window. Like
->this:
->
->pan&
->
->But some of them write to stdout which causes my xterm to fill up with
->text from various applications. I tried to do this:
->
->pan& > /dev/nul
->
->But it said permission denied. Does I need to chmod of the /dev/nul
->device/file or whatever it is so that my blix user can redirect stdout to
->it?
->
->Thanks in advance,
->blix
->


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linuxgruven
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 03:14:01 GMT

>>>>> "mrchefbob" == mrchefbob  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
mrchefbob> future computing industry
>> and there is no one quite like linuxgruven

mrchefbob> I spoke with this company. A good come on but upon speaking
mrchefbob> to 10 different people about them it was unanimous THIS IS
mrchefbob> A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

There do appear to be _some_ at least _faintly_ credible people
working for them.

My suspicion is that they've fallen over the same line LinuxMall did
when _they_ made the error of getting excited about selling prepaid
legal services.

The company makes a "reasonably serious mistake;" this does not
prevent them from actually having real products, and actually selling
things that people find to be of value.

But by "crossing the line," they have successfully attracted the
attention of some people that will be implacably and perpetually
critical, regardless of whatever they may ever do that _is_ credible.

Remember, this is Usenet, where anybody can say anything, however
incredibly inane...
-- 
(reverse (concatenate 'string "ac.notelrac.teneerf@" "454aa"))
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
Blame it on the *-Property.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why did SawFish become default in RedHat, instead of Enlightenment ?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 03:17:49 GMT

>>>>> "Michel" == Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michel> Arctic Storm a �crit :
>>  Why did SawFish become default in RedHat, instead of Enlightenment
>> ?  RedHat 6.2 came with Enlightenment as the default window
>> manager, but in RedHat 7.0, SawFish is the default window manager.
>> Why the change?  I want to take advantage of XFree86 4's ability to
>> support multiple monitors, and only Enlightenment is able to handle
>> multiple monitors; SawFish cannot not, yet.  Now I must install
>> Enlightenment.  Does anyone have any info on why RedHat decided on
>> SawFish as the default window manager?

Michel> Perhaps the fact that enlightenment sucks might be a factor.
Michel> Not that sawfish is a big improvement. I do prefer Gnome's
Michel> look to KDE but the frequent crashes got me to turn back to
Michel> KDE.

"Sucks" is pretty nonspecific :-).  One _major_ problem with
Enlightenment is that it is, fairly intentionally, a _severe_ resource
hog.  If you go with the k001 themes, can consume _vast_ quantities of
RAM, and be very slow unless you've got _seriously fast_ graphics
hardware.  [I'd not want to run it without having at least 16MB of RAM
on my card...]

Michel> I think Gnome is a long way from being stable. I installed
Michel> helix gnome to find out that it refused to use my old icons. I
Michel> said fuck it and switched to KDE.

Both Gnome and KDE are suffering from the problem that they are both
evolving systems.  As a result, it is to be expected that new releases
of components may not interoperate well with older releases of
components.

If you try to run new KOffice components using old KDE libraries,
you'll likely have just as many problems.  If you try to compile bits
of KDE with different releases of GCC, it is _guaranteed_ that you'll
get a dysfunctional jumble because the ABI hasn't stabilized, and a
timetable is not yet out for when to hope for that stability...

-- 
(reverse (concatenate 'string "ac.notelrac.teneerf@" "454aa"))
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
If the odds  are a million to one  against something occuring, chances
are 50-50 it will.

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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: output to /dev/nul
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 03:32:46 GMT

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Christopher W. Aiken wrote:

> 
> I believe it is /dev/null ( 2 l's)
> 
> If you are using bash then try the syntax:
> 
> (pan 1>/dev/null 2>&1) &
> 
> --
> Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
> chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
> Current O/S: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2

Okay... that makes sense... I misspelled NULL. Duh. But what does the
syntax "2>&1" mean? And you put the whole thing around parenthesis, except
the ampersand? I know the ampersand means to put it in the background. 

blix



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: auto run
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:36:56 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > ZippiZ wrote:
> >>
> >> I am using Turbolinux and Debian, I know the way to set the program to
> >> autorun at startup is the rc.local in Turbolinux, but what is that in
> >> Debian? Thanks for any suggestion!
> >>
> >> ZippiZ
> 
> > What the fuck is autorun?
> 
> Lets look at the word more closely shall we...
> First, lets split it in two...
> Auto... Short for automatic. To do something without manual intrervention.
> Run...  To start a program...
> 
> So to autorun a program means to start a program auotomatically...
> </sarcasm>
> Can we say Duuuuh???

Close, but no ceeegar.  Auto = self.

Therefore, Auto+Run = SELF+running program.


> 
> Zippy just didn't mention what program he wants to autorun.
> I've never used Turbo or Debian, so I don't know if it uses sysv init style
> startups.
> 
> Oh... And for a unix system enginner, don't you think you should KNOW about
> such things a sig file size limits???
> 
> Mine's a couple of lines too long, but you're taking the piss with that one!
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> |   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                                                 |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
> |            in            |  suck is probably the day they start making     |
> |     Computer science     |  vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lost root password.
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:42:15 -0500


"Ingo Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9361cm$tra$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> if you have a linux-boot-disk, you can boot from this disk, mount the
> harddiskpartition where /etc/ is located and the delete/replace the
password
> for root in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
>
> hope it will work afterwards...
>
> cya, ingo
>
thanks, thats exactly what i did.

chris



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From: Guy Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem installing WindowMaker in Mdk 7.2...
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 14:44:42 +1100

     I've installed - or thought I had - WM, but 'switchdesk' tells me
"WindowMaker not installed!".
     The WindowMaker rpm is DEFINATELY there.  Is there anything I'm
missing?  Is 'wmakerconfig' actually a part of WindowMaker?  I
installed that as well, after satisfying a dependency by installing
'lynx' as well, but still the same message.  This one's got me
scratching my head.  I have run /usr/bin/X11/wmaker.inst but I still
get told "WindowMaker not installed".  Grrr...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: "no space left on disk" .. but there is
Date: 6 Jan 2001 03:43:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:33:15 -0600 Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can we ask what the problem is that you are trying to solve?

You could, you know, read the rest of the thread.

The person who started this had a logging bug that was creating
literally thousands of zero-length "log files", using up all his
inodes.  He wanted to delete them, but there were so many that shell
globbing produced an argument list that was too long.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>

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