Linux-Misc Digest #736, Volume #18 Sat, 23 Jan 99 17:13:09 EST
Contents:
How To Turn Off Console Terminal Screen Saver? (Scott Gravenhorst (remove _ for
reply))
Re: S3V or SVGA (Eric)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (e-frog)
Re: ppp-server problem (David Efflandt)
LILO + FAT 32 + SCSI ("Kruger")
Re: Problems configuring mail (nmh) using PPP (David Efflandt)
Re: pax archiver (Gary Momarison)
Re: Basic Home Network Guidance - Please (Gary Momarison)
Re: installing win95 on slave disk (Jim Richardson)
Re: Thoughts on file organization (Jim Richardson)
Re: Using Internal PCI Modem (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Getting Pine to Use a Different From (David Efflandt)
Getting Floppy Tape drives to work... (Grand Poobah of PRAM)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Re: 128 bit Netscape 4.08 built against glibc (MikeP)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" ("Otto Bruggeman")
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Help: unmounting partitions in single user mode (Gary Krupa)
What is the company that makes a lunch box size box? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Julian T. J. Midgley)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gravenhorst (remove _ for reply))
Subject: How To Turn Off Console Terminal Screen Saver?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:01:40 GMT
I have a monochrome monitor on a hercules card, no X support. I'd
like it to constantly display "top", but it will blank the screen
after a certain amount of non-use time. Is there a way to disable the
screen saver on this device?
-- Scott Gravenhorst
-- FatMan Site: www.teklab.com/~chordman
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S3V or SVGA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:06:26 -0700
iNoDE wrote:
> I have an STB Velocity 3D Video Card 4MB. I am running the S3V server
> right now fine... However I have read/heard that the SVGA server is
> faster... I installed it and didn't notice much of a difference... my
> question is... if I can run either one... which one should I keep? why?
> Thanks....
> --
> o My Computer talkz about Linux: "BriNg iT On!!!"
> o After the fact: "I'm a LeAn and mEAn Linux machine!"
> o Chickz dig Linux...
The only reason I can think of off hand would be if you want to use
Staroffice, it has a conflict with the S3V server.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-frog)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 23 Jan 1999 19:04:53 GMT
David Kastrup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: "Shane Hulbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > No I guess they do not operate illegally, just immorally.
: Well, then how do you explain the various court orders they have
: received, for example forcing them to abandon their illegal practice
: of per CPU licensing, where vendors would have to pay for a copy of
: Windows per computer regardless of whether they put it on the
: computer, in return for discounts?
Wow, that was ancient history in computer time!
Yeah, for you youngsters out there, MS used to charge computer makers for
every computer shipped, even if MSDOS/Windows wasn't on the machine. The
manufacturers, then, would ship only MSDOS/Windows, obviously, since they
were paying for it anyways. Nobody was going to pay double for an OS/2
machine even if MS software wasn't on the machine.
By the time the courts got around to fixing that problem, the damage was
already done.
In more current history, no, MS hasn't actually been proven to be illegal.
Yet.
But very, very immoral yes. See the trial going on now. See the news about
MS treatment of temp. workers, it all goes on.
Mostly, it galls people in the compsci/engineering community to:
1) Be limited in their freedom to choose.
2) Arguably the largest software company in the world produces software
which is technically NOT ahead of its competition and some would even
argue that it is clearly behind. And beyond the technical merits, the
quality is also suspect.
3) The lies that MS puts out about being innovative. There is rarely
anything innovative from MS besides Marketing strategies. e.g. "New"
Cleartype technology, which they didn't realize that Wozniak et al.
developed, oh, over 10 years ago for the AppleIIe.
IBM lead the way 3 years? or more running now in patents issued.
Including patents from their software division. It would be interesting to
see how any came from MS.
I wouldn't mind so much (but a little bit) if MS were a monoply if MS put
out the clearly better products! As a technical minded person, I hate
seeing inferior products become standardized.
Well, that's my rant about the world.
Isaac
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ppp-server problem
Date: 23 Jan 1999 19:07:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:32:22 +0100, tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi !
>
>I installed a linux-dialin-server and started a connection from a win95-pc.I
>can get a connection and log in, but I am not able to ping the ra-server
>from windows dos-box and vice versa and so I am not able to start a ftp to
>the server to down- or upload files. I tried nearly everything to get rid of
>the problem, but I can't see the point.
>
>/etc/ppp/options :
>lock
>115200
>crtscts
>modem
>debug
>
>
>/etc/ppp/dialin :
>
>silent
>auth
>+chap
>-ipx-protocol
>200.1.1.1:200.1.1.2
>proxyarp
>-defaultroute (tried it also without this)
Please don't simply make up IP addresses that do not belong to you.
Sooner or later this will cause problems. Use IP's in the range
192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x (I forget what the 3rd range is).
Use proxyarp if you are on a LAN, however, in that case I would think
you would use IP's in that subnet. I use my eth0 IP for local IP.
In Windows you can tell if you are connected with 'winipconfig' (look in
\windows for the exact name), and in Linux you can tell with ifconfig.
Make sure \windows\hosts lists the Linux box and /etc/hosts lists a
name for each IP.
For an example see: http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/linux/
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: "Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat,nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: LILO + FAT 32 + SCSI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:06:57 +0100
Hi,
I have a UW SCSI drive installed as boot drive
and a normal U-DMA drive.
Win 98 is installed on C: (first partition on the SCSI drive)
and it is using FAT 32.
This drive is seen in linux as sda1
On the SCSI drive are 2 more FAT32 partitions
and on the IDE drive I have one extended dos partition with
one logical DOS drive using FAT 32
and on the rest of this IDE drive I have installed Linux
root on hda2 /home on hda3 and the SWAP partition on hda4
I boot from the SCSI disk, i have set this in my BIOS as the default boot
drive.
I have tried to install Linux on the MBR of the SCSI disk, but
the linux conf from RedHat 5.2 but it reported errors when trying to
access the MBR of the SCSI disk. (i have set the boot partition to /dev/sda)
Then when i rebooted LILO started but stopped at LI
so my question is: Can LILO access FAT 32 drives ?
And how do I set up this. Install LILO on the MBR of my boot disk
(the SCSI disk in this case) and start Linux (/dev/hda2) and Win 98
(/dev/sda1)
all help is welcome..
kruger
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Problems configuring mail (nmh) using PPP
Date: 23 Jan 1999 19:35:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:23:52 GMT, GeekGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi:
>
>To start with I have R'd the FM. If there's another FM to R I haven't
>found it yet. ;)
>
>Here is my situation. I am using RH 5.2 + updates. My internet
>connection is PPP. I want to send and receive email with my pop
>address in the From: lines (outgoing) and To: lines (incoming).
Instead of mucking with sendmail, wouldn't it be easier to set the desired
>From and Reply-To in your emailer and either get pop mail directly from
your email program or indirectly using fetchmail. I simply set up
different usernames for my ISP and company accounts, then all I have to
set in pine is the desired domain (and quell-user-lookup).
Or netscape lets you set whatever you want to.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pax archiver
Date: 23 Jan 1999 11:35:18 -0800
"John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've seen a "new" archive format called "pax". From what I've read, it is
> the "correct" one to use to be POSIX compliant. Anyway, has anyone seen a
> Linux version? In case you're interested, the IBM mainframe at work
> implements this - that's why I'm curious. It implements tar and cpio too, so
> transfering files in not the question. I'm just weird enuf to be curious. I
> have found the source, got errors when I tried to compile, tried to fix
> errors, compiled clean, but the silly thing goes into an infinite loop
> recursing subdirectories. I'll work on it as I have time, but was wondering
> what others thought. No, I don't know why we need yet another archiver
> function.
This (online?) book comes with a "pax". Perhaps it has a Linux build script
at the web site or you might want to consult the author.
<A HREF="http://akpublic.research.att.com/~vt/ext-software/reuse/">
Practical Reusable UNIX Software</A>  With SW
(eg ksh,nmake,pax,app builder) & severely restricting SW licence.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Basic Home Network Guidance - Please
Date: 23 Jan 1999 11:42:17 -0800
david@no-spam,dcf.net (David Francis) writes:
[...]
> I don't need to be "spoon fed" the steps. I'd just like to get others input on
> how they handle this routing scenario, security considerations, various
> options, etc...
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
There are several intro/tutorial type articles linked to
from the "Home Networking" section of
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/networking.html
There's some similar stuff on security in
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/security.html
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing win95 on slave disk
Date: 23 Jan 1999 19:47:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:22:03 +0800,
Wowix, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>sad to tell u ...theres no way..WIndoze shut will want to install in the primary
>partition
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I have linux installed on my machine, and want to put in my second hard disk
>> and install windoze95 on it so that I can play my games. Now, I know that
>> Windoze demands that it be installed on the first partition on the first
>> disk, but I was wondering if there is a way around this. Any help would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Morgan Terry
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
I believe that there are some arcane mods that can be made to lilo.conf,
which convince windows that it is on the first partiotion, but I forget
what they are exactly. A dejanews search might turn them up.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on file organization
Date: 23 Jan 1999 19:47:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:44:39 -0500,
Michael Doherty, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Thanks for your nice explanation of the organization of file systems.
>I've had linux up and running for about 2 months now now and love it,
>spending less and less time on NT.
>
>What I would like to know is the way to find out the size of
>directories and the unused space in the various partitions on the
>hard drive. I have linux on a 6gb hard drive, so I don't have to worry
>about running out of space anytime soon. But I guess I still have M$
>paranoia because windoze seemed to fill up the disk just sitting there
>and I found myself reinstalling NT every few months or so, partly just
>to get disk space back.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>Michael
df
will tell you what the various partitions (the mounted ones anyway.) are at.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Internal PCI Modem
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:43:16 -0600
Is that the English version of SuSE 6.0??? If so, when did it release?
Robin Aly wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm SuSE 6.0. I bought a new Aztech 56K Modem (PCI, Internal)
> I tried setserial with the irq of the pci-slot, but didn't work. Can anybody
> help me ?
>
> Bye
> Robin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Getting Pine to Use a Different From
Date: 23 Jan 1999 15:31:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:41:49 -0600, Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The ability to change the `From:' line in Pine is a compile-time
>> > option. ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is the flag that needs to be set. The
>> > default is for this capability to be turned off.
>>
>> Actually, I finally figured out what was going wrong. If you just add
>> allow-changing-from to the feature-list: in the .pinerc in ~ it allows me to
>> do it also. You can't adjust that feature in the Config, it has to be done
>> manually in the .pinerc.
>I added allow-changing-from to feature list in .pinerc. Now what? Still
>don't see how to actually change the From: address. Thanks very much for
>any help!
>
>Bill
Another way is to creat a user with the username at your ISP and simply
change the 'domain' in pine config to your ISP domain. For example
I have one user 'efflandt' with domain 'xnet.com', another user
'defflandt' with my work domain 'cla-val.com' and any username for my
virtual domain de-srv.com (all replies forwarded to me).
Or for root I simply add 'Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (w/o quotes) to
customized-hdrs.
See help (?) for these options in pine config (you also may need to
quell-user-lookup).
Now the question is, does anybody know how to configure 'slrn' so e-mail
replies show up with desired From:. It shows up properly in posted
replys, but e-mail replies have my real address (fortunately with
configured Reply-To:).
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grand Poobah of PRAM)
Subject: Getting Floppy Tape drives to work...
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:15:09 GMT
I'm running RedHat 5.2, and I have a Seagate STT8000A, ATAPI TAPE
drive, DMA. For some reason, instead of identifying this as a tape
drive, it gets identified as a floppy tape drive (/dev/rft0), and I can't use
mt and such with it-which means that I can't back up my stuff to tape.
Is there a way around this? Can I simply make a symbolic link in
/dev, defining /dev/rft0 as /dev/tape? Or do I have to do something
more complicated.
Feel free to send any replies to my email address: I suspect that this
is a subject few other people are interested in.
--
"President Clinton has perfected the art of the disarmingly tedious
speech to the point where the only thing we have to look forward to is the
inevitable Republican rebuttal, just to see what trickery the party of
Lincoln employs to appear more inept than the president."-the Sucksters
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:15:20 -0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mayor Of R'lyeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 10 Jan 1999 15:52:07 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose
>to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
>>> Windows is priced in line with other commercial OSs.
>>
>>redhat linux goes for $50 from the redhat people. that is a
>>*commercial* (although not proprietary) OS.
>
>You're geting ripped off. My local Best Buys has it for $37.
>The difference is that is has almost no developement costs. Its done
>by volunteers. That's why I said it was silly to compare it to a
>commercial OS. I guess I really meant a commercially developed OS.
>Red Hat doesn't have anywhere near the investment in Linux that
>Microsoft has in Windows.
>
Of course the amusing thing is, that in spite of Microsoft's massive
investment in Windows, Linux (which has always been and will always be
free [0]) is technically superior. It lacks software, but merely
because developers tend to write for the OS's with majority market
share, since that way they stand to make most profit.
Linux has another advantage. If I were to find a bug in the kernel, I
would be allowed to fix it myself and distribute the fix to other
people. If I find a bug in a Microsoft product (an almost weekly
occurence) I cannot fix it, because they will not provide me with the
source, nor let me distribute the fixed version.
--
Julian T J Midgley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trinity Hall, Cambridge | Excession: http://excession.ucam.org
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
neat, and wrong." (H. L. Mencken)
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From: MikeP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 128 bit Netscape 4.08 built against glibc
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:29:52 -0500
Michael.Creasy wrote:
>
> Believe when I see it. Yet to find a version of Netscape than can
> access http://www.michael.creasy.com without dying!!
>
> David Martin wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Michael.Creasy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Netscape - buggy ? Only very slightly :-) Just try anything with Java
> > > and watch it die.
> >
> > I just click on a mailto: url to close down. WOrks every time (grr).
> >
> > Waiting for gekko which is supposed to be fantastic.
> >
> > ..d
I'm using Netscape v4.08 glibc and I can load the site fine. Strange...
--
-] Michael Proto [-
-] Happy Linux user since 1997 [-
-] ------------- [-
ERROR: REALITY.SYS Corrupted! Reboot universe? (Y/n)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:29:24 -0000
In article <77e7hg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <77e4jb$js0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>
>>Of course - people buy computers to run applications.
>
>
>SOME?? some??
>
>
>what do you mean some??
You are able to read, aren't you?
Good, I thought so.
Then please reread the line you quoted above, and enumerate aloud all
instances of the word "some".
Now do it again, and this time write down the total number of
instances of the word "some".
If at this point you have written down a word that is not
mathematically equivalent to "zero" then please re-enrole in a class
designed to teach adults the basics of literacy.
If you have written down "zero" or its equivalent, then please post an
immediate retraction and apology to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and publicly admit
that you are the halfwitted dullard you give every appearance of
being.
--
Julian T J Midgley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trinity Hall, Cambridge | Excession: http://excession.ucam.org
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
neat, and wrong." (H. L. Mencken)
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From: "Otto Bruggeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:03:56 +0100
w joseph mantle wrote in message <78af67$gin$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Traveller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>w joseph mantle wrote:
>
>>> I don't like vi either, although not because it doesn't
>>> have the pull down menus, rather that it requires extra
>>> keystrokes every time you switch between the two
>>> main modes.
>
>>Actually I remember reading somewhere that 'vi' was created to be sort
>>of like WP, with the concept that if
>>you're fingers can fly around a keyboard why bother reaching for a
>>mouse.
>
>I agree. Taking your hands off of the keyboardk, grabbing the
>mouse, pulling down a menu, and selecting an item takes about
>20 to 50 times longer than hitting ^b.
>
>But vi is not that great either. If I'm inserting in the middle
>of a line and want to insert at the end of the line I need
>to hit escape (to go into command mode), hit $ (to go to
>the end of the line), and hit a (to return to insert mode).
>
>In a normal full screen editor you can get to the end of
>the line with a single control key. Part of the problem with
>vi is that the escape character is usually far away from
>home position on the keyboard. I'd say it takes 3 times
>as much time to do these steps in vi.
Use VI IMproved, then you can go to the end without hitting escape and
SHIFT-A. Reading the manual or howto or whatever could have told you this
also
Otto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:08:40 -0000
In article <77912n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Poison Ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
>
>>> If Microsoft wanted to maximize profits, they would jack up the price of
>>> Windows to $500. *That* would be a monopoly behaving at its worst,
>gouging
>>> consumers. A monopoly that keeps prices low does no harm to consumers.
>>
>>microsoft has never been interested in money. the money is simply a
>>byproduct and tool. what bill gates wants is *control*. his goal is
>>not `to be the richest guy on the planet' but `windows everywhere'.
>
>
>I believe you hit the nail on the head, Johan.
>
>Gates controlling the industry is not bad for consumers, though. If
>consumers get a valuable product for a cheap price, they will be happy.
>
>Consumer harm doesn't occur until the monopoly jacks the prices way up.
>
Utter tosh.
Consumer harm occurs when a company that is unable to put out anything
but unreliable, bloated software controls the market. It doesn't
matter what price they sell their rubbish for. Look around you- there
are people who think that it is necessary to reboot all computers at
least once a week if they are to maintain performance (if they aren't
forced to do so by a system crash), because Microsoft products have
demanded such ridiculous methods of operation. Or that you need 16 MB
of memory and a P200 to run a WYSIWIG word processor, when I have seen
machines that do a better job in 4MB with a processor that was probably
the equivalent of a 486.
I administer several Linux machines, and an NT 4 network, and
can tell you for a fact that whilst I have yet to see a Linux machine
have a system crash, we get several NT 4 BSODs every week.
You can build anything on a solid foundation, but if your foundation
is of sand and mud, then anything you build will be vulnerable. The
fact that quite a lot has been built on Microsoft's mud, does not mean
that similar products could not have been built on the rock of a
decent operating system (Linux or otherwise) had similar number of
man-hours been put into it, and that they would not run more reliably.
Microsoft has never yet demonstrated that it is competent to write
reliable software. It has demonstrated a thousand times over that it
knows a hell of a lot about marketing.
But at the end of the day, if the consequence is that a technically
incompetent company has the monopoly, then the customer is harmed if
he has to buy Microsoft, since he is forced to buy low quality
software if he wishes to run the majority of the software available.
Of course, for the last seven and a bit years, people have been able
to get Linux free. I have Win 98 on this machine, but it only ever
gets used if I wish to play games or absolutely have to use a piece
of Windows software to remain compatible with some poor deluded soul
who has yet to see the light.
--
Julian T J Midgley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trinity Hall, Cambridge | Excession: http://excession.ucam.org
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
neat, and wrong." (H. L. Mencken)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:20:09 -0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Go figure. Is Windows *that* brain dead that it has to expend all
>of the Pentium's processing power on a simple mouse press?
>
Um, yes.
Enough said really.
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Julian T J Midgley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trinity Hall, Cambridge | Excession: http://excession.ucam.org
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
neat, and wrong." (H. L. Mencken)
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From: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help: unmounting partitions in single user mode
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:37:25 GMT
Since upgrading to Slackware v. 2.0.34, I've been unable to boot the
system in single-user, read-only mode as I was able to do before (I
was running on v. 1.2.8). The partitions won't unmount, therefore
I can't run tune2fs the way I was able to do previously. I tried
hacking the /etc/inittab and /etc/rc.d/rc.K files, to no avail.
Does anyone know of a way around this problem?
Gary Krupa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: What is the company that makes a lunch box size box?
Date: 23 Jan 1999 21:43:23 GMT
Some time in the last six months I saw the web page of a company that
makes lunch box size IBM style peecees and sells them loaded with a free
OS with a Linux kernel. These boxen are cheap, too. Now I cannot find
the name of this company. I have already checked the lists of hardware
vendors at www.linux.org .
What is the name of this company? I need some machines from them for
testing.
onr
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian T. J. Midgley)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:41:08 -0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[SNIP]
>And that must be the reason their RPM package manager is
>currently the de facto stadard for Linux.
This is simply not true. I have never had to install a single RPM
package on my Debian Linux systems. The majority of the software I
run is available as a dpkg package, those which are not come as tar
balls. RPM is the Red Hat package manager. It is a long way from
being a "de facto" standard. If it were, much of the stuff I use
would only be available as RPM packages, when in fact, none of the
stuff I use came in an RPM package, and I have never had a copy of RPM
on either of my two Linux boxes.
That said, the rest of your post [unquoted] was entirely accurate and
reasonable.
--
Julian T J Midgley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trinity Hall, Cambridge | Excession: http://excession.ucam.org
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
neat, and wrong." (H. L. Mencken)
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