Linux-Misc Digest #736, Volume #25 Mon, 11 Sep 00 15:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Technical information about ispell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Technical information about ispell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: no such file or directory (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Correct way to trim logfiles? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Pipe should work. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: XFree86 4.0.1 is running, but there are problems... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: What's eating my disk space? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: What is the maximum swap space? Max RAM? ("Stefan Viljoen")
Score another one for Linux ("Stefan Viljoen")
Re: Linux on TV! (sorry!) ("Stefan Viljoen")
Re: Control-alt-delete in RedHat 5.2 ("Stefan Viljoen")
Re: how can I delete blank line? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.1 Installations problems !!! (Josef Oswald)
Re: Why do FTP downloads stall under RH6.2 linux (The Drag)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Wowie! It's Howie Zowie!)
MS Word Format Automation - StarOffice?? ("Christopher A. Stevens")
Re: Opinions: An Adequate Starter System? (William W.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Technical information about ispell
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:04:15 GMT
Somebody knows where is technical information about ispell.
I have read the man pages but I have not found some answers. For
example, how many flags can be used to write an affix file? I know that
setting MASKBITS to 32 you can use 32 flags, and that setting MASKBITS
to 64 you can use 64 flags, but can you use MASKBITS 128 or 256?. If the
previous question is answered positively, what sign can be used as
flags?
Is there any list, newsgroup ou webpage about this?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Technical information about ispell
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:03:35 GMT
Somebody knows where is technical information about ispell.
I have read the man pages but I have not found some answers. For
example, how many flags can be used to write an affix file? I know that
setting MASKBITS to 32 you can use 32 flags, and that setting MASKBITS
to 64 you can use 64 flags, but can you use MASKBITS 128 or 256?. If the
previous question is answered positively, what sign can be used as
flags?
Is there any list, newsgroup ou webpage about this?
Thanks
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Subject: Re: no such file or directory
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 11 Sep 2000 20:14:35 +0100
In article <198v5.30030$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Yelvington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm getting an error message when I try to run either quake or squake on a
>fresh install of Mandrake 7.2 beta. Witness:
>
># ./quake.x11
>bash: ./quake.x11: No such file or directory
>
>I've found some postings on the net that suggest a missing library can
>cause this message. I do have both glibc and libc5 available on this
>machine, ld.so.conf appears to be configured correctly, et cetera.
>
>Any clues, or advice on how to diagnose?
>
>--
>
Does the executable file 'quake.x11' really live in the directory
where you stand? Try removing the './' from that command line (I think
'quake.x11' is somewhere in your $PATH, but not in your current
directory).
/A
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Correct way to trim logfiles?
Date: 11 Sep 2000 18:01:28 GMT
Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I was not complete enough here, Perl uses BSD flock() not
: SysV lockf(). lockf() is capable of obtaining a mandatory lock,
: flock() is not.
I think you're possibly triggering without reading here. I thought
flock was implemented using fcntl, which is all one needs.
(man flock)
NOTES
Under Linux, flock is implemented as a call to fcntl.
Please see fcntl(2) for more details on errors.
(mandatory.txt)
The System V mandatory locking scheme was intended to have as little
impact as possible on existing user code. The scheme is based on
marking individual files as candidates for mandatory locking, and
using the existing fcntl()/lockf() interface for applying locks just
as if they were normal, advisory locks.
: strace the following script to see what I mean:
: #!/usr/bin/perl -w
: use strict;
: use Fcntl qw[:DEFAULT :flock];
: open FH, ">file.txt" or die "can't write file.txt: $!\n";
: flock FH, LOCK_EX or die "can't lock file.txt: $!\n";
: print FH "test\n";
: close FH;
: __END__
: There possibly is a module or compile time option (compiling perl,
: not a script), to make Perl's flock use lockf(). I do not know what
: that is off hand though.
I personally have never heard of lockf! It's not in any man page I
possess. Is it solaris stuff? In any case, it's moot. Under linux all
lock calls will go thorugh fcntl eventually, unless you're trying to be
really perverse. That'll end them up in the generic FS call, and
that'll check the file/dir flags and put up a mandatory lock as need be.
Here's the strace of your script:
...
brk(0x813d000) = 0x813d000
brk(0x813e000) = 0x813e000
fcntl(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, []) = 0
open("file.txt", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = 4
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
fcntl(4, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
flock(4, LOCK_EX) = 0
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
...
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pipe should work.
Date: 11 Sep 2000 18:04:39 GMT
Sjoerd Langkemper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [root@server /root]# rpm -qa > ./rpmlist
: [root@server /root]# cat rpmlist
: [root@server /root]# rpm -qa
: basesystem-9.9-9
: filesystem-9.9.9-9
: ldconfig-9.9.9-9
: mktemp-9.9-9
: How's this possible? The output of the command rpm -qa should be put into
: the file rpmlist.
And what about the output on stderr, not stdout? Where would you like
it to go? And what if rpm detects if it's output is a tty and changes
behaviour if it's not. It's possible, but not likely.
Strace it and find out what happens. Here it works fine:
karajan:/tmp% rpm -qa > ! foo.rpm
karajan:/tmp% head !$
head foo.rpm
aaa_base-99.7.22-0
aaa_dir-99.7.12-0
aaa_skel-99.4.9-0
at-3.1.8-68
base-99.7.19-2
...
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0.1 is running, but there are problems...
Date: 11 Sep 2000 18:08:25 GMT
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Apparently, X installation script wasn't smart enough to remove xfs
: configuration script, so I did. Rebooted, system came up fine, except
Yes, I hear the new X doesn't need a font server and needs a different
one anyway?
: when I ran "startx" I got twm instead of my KDE desktop. After much
: trial and error, I discovered I could bring up KDE by editing
: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc, replacing "twm" with "startkde".
It would be much more sensible to add that to your .xinitrc, where it
always should have been if you wanted startx to start kde.
: Unfortunately, I still could not load KDE as non-root user. I created a
Eh? Load? Just run the pieces of KDE listed in the startkde script one
by one to see what the problem is.
: link to xinitrc in my home directory and solved that problem.
??
: Now, I had my KDE desktop back, but it was displayed about twice as TALL
: as it should have been and I had to scroll down a full screen to reach
This is an X config decision. Get rid of "virtual" settings in the
config file?
Peter
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Subject: Re: What's eating my disk space?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 11 Sep 2000 20:19:15 +0100
In article <s39v5.276289$Kw2.2244195@flipper>,
Sjoerd Langkemper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I executed this
>
>[root@server /root]# cat diskfree.sh
>df
>sleep 60
>df
>sleep 60
>[etc, etc]
>[root@server /root]# ./diskfree.sh
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda1 231116 229842 0 100% /
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda1 231116 229866 0 100% /
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda1 231116 229874 0 100% /
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda1 231116 229890 0 100% /
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda1 231116 229890 0 100% /
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hda1 231116 229908 0 100% /
>
>What's eating my disk space when it's not /var/log/messages?
>
>Sjoerd
>
>
You only have a 230Mb partition? That's quite small...
Try this:
$ du -s /*
That will print the sizes of all directories in your root directory.
Take a closer look at the largest ones.
Are you running 'squid'? What about '~/.netscape/cache/'?
/A
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the maximum swap space? Max RAM?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:11:03 +0200
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:FETu5.4134$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What is the maximum swap space? Max RAM?
> There are many web sites, including RedHat, that seems to imply that the
> maximum swap space is 128 MB. They never say that it cannot be larger
than
> 128 MB; they simply say that it can handle up 128 MB of swap space.
> I have 194 MB RAM, and I'm under the impression that larger the swap
space,
> the better, so I chose 384 MB of swap space (2x RAM). My RedHat Linux 6.2
> runs without problems, but is this an overkill, or, is there something
wrong
> that I'm not aware of?
> By the way, what's the maximum RAM supported by RedHat Linux 6.2?
> Thanks,...
Huh? I have 256 meg of physical RAM and doing "free -m" at the console
prompt shows I have 258 megs of swap allocated.
Probably in old versions???
I have RedHat too...
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South Africa
"We want you to be soldiers - deadly as long as you still have one arm or
one leg and you are still alive."
- R. A. H. in "Starship Troopers"
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Score another one for Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:13:32 +0200
I regularly do long raytraces - gave up on final tracing in Windows (PovRay)
after one scene kept consistently rebooting the maching.
Switched to Linux and those problems simply dissappeared - literally!! My
current render has been grinding away for about 50 hours now - in Doze I
never got more than about 25 without some kind of snafu, foul up or crash...
Long Live Linux!!
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on TV! (sorry!)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:19:46 +0200
Dave Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8ph76q$kmt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi
> >
> > Sorry this ain't too technical, it's really a 'spot Linux box' report,
> > but I was stunned to see linux being used on the TV.
> >
> > I was watching an educational programme on BBC2 were they were teaching
> > software to drive a car, there was a close up on the monitor of the
> > laptop that was in-car and I saw a terminal window called 'wterm'. I
> > almost choked on my cocoa! I had to tell someone...
> >
> > Well, it's time to put the cat out,
> >
> > Chris C.
>
> Not really surprising is it, in that situation, would you want a fatal
error
> or a blue screen of death when the car was traveling at 90 mph !!.
ROFL!!
Imagine it waiting with that infamous "it might be possible to continue
normally" screen - while, indeed, you are traveling at 90 mph - anyway,
clicking "Ok" ALWAYS crashes the system...
Great line Dave!
--
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http://home.intekom.com/rylan/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
F/EMS Dispatcher
Potchefstroom Emergency Services
South Africa
"We want you to be soldiers - deadly as long as you still have one arm or
one leg and you are still alive."
- R. A. H. in "Starship Troopers"
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Control-alt-delete in RedHat 5.2
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:46:41 +0200
> > What you describe sounds rather bizarre. While in X, Ctrl-Alt-Del
> > shouldn't do anything. It sounds as if something peculiar happened
> > incidently or she used some other exotic key combination.
> > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace while in X should kill X and get you back to
> > somewhere where you can start again. You could also try
> > Ctral-Alt-F2 to get an alternate terminal and then Ctrl-Alt-Del
> > to reboot. If neither works, wait a minute or so, make sure there
> > is no disk activity, shut off the computer and turn it on again.
> > Upon rebooting, the system will run fsck to fix the file system,
> > but that shouldn't create any serious problem. If it stops and
> > asks you to do it manually, do as indicated and give the default
> > response to all questions.
>
> I had to press the panic button once, and doing that was no fun at all.
Fsck got
> very angry and dumped me into a root shell (I forget if I had to type the
root
> password or not; I do not think so.) and urged me to run it manually. It
did not
> want to run. I cannot remember what I had to do, but I believe I had to
clean up
> /etc/inittab that got bollixed up, or /etc/fstab. One of those that should
really
> be in good shape. Just my luck that I pressed that button when part of
whatever
> file it was was in a buffer somewhere.
>
> AVOID RESETTING if at all possible. We are not running DOS after all.
Huh - tell me about it. Yesterday evening the UNIX system at work got
unhappy and I had to rather brutally take it down - kill -9'ed all
processes, init 0 and that seemed to work, only it took longer than usual.
On coming up - its fsck found nothing wrong, but boy o boy - the databases
in the app we use had "invalid backward links" and I don't know what else.
Apparently the application environment (UniVision) does not like it much if
you signal 9 its processes while they are busy... but they wouldn't respond
to normal kill
The strange thing is the other time I had to restart it init 0 actually
hung - after about fifteen minutes I hit the reset button (yikes squared)
and EVERYTHING worked perfectly on restart.
--
St�fan Viljoen a. k. a. Rylan
http://home.intekom.com/rylan/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
F/EMS Dispatcher
Potchefstroom Emergency Services
South Africa
"We want you to be soldiers - deadly as long as you still have one arm or
one leg and you are still alive."
- R. A. H. in "Starship Troopers"
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how can I delete blank line?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:22:58 -0500
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
> metoo:
>
> grep "."
>
> (can't beet this one ;)
[ snip upside-down quoted article ]
You appear to be correct, both in keystrokes and speed. :-)
anm
--
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};
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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Mandrake 7.1 Installations problems !!!
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:40:47 GMT
Boomer schrieb:
>
> I would like to install Linux Mandrake 7.1
> in a new FAT-32 partition.
> My system is a standard Windows 98 system
> with 450MHz Pentium III, 64MB ram,
> 20GB and 8GB harddrives(IDE).
> I setup a 4GB partition using Partition Magic 4.0
Hi:-)
Your safest way would be to move all Windows stuff onto the 20 GB HDD
and use the smaller HDD for Linux ( At this time I have Win98 on one
Disk and Linux SuSE 6.2 on my second disk.... ) As for the partition
type you should not use FAT 32 for Linux but Linux native. Most likely
there is a tool during the Install process or you can use Partition
Magic to set up the following partitions.
first a small /boot ( about 16 MB should do )
then a linux swap ( again about 126 MB will be sufficient)
the rest as / <--- this is the root directory :-) for all system files
and for the user..
Also one tip:-) after you set up your Linux box you should not use it
for regular work as root but as a user..... as root you can mess up your
system badly... I speak from my own sad experience :-)
I am not familiar with the Installation tool for Mandrake but I guess
when you have to be careful if there is option for installation as
server ( under SuSE it would use ALL HDD's for Linux wiping out your
WinXX......)
Since you want to install it as a Dual boot system it would be a good
idea to start Linux from a floppy and later you can switch to LILO or
LOADLIN.......
If you have a CD-ROM is there no READ-ME for it?
Don't get me wrong ( since I can't give you a better answer myself)
could you check with the Home-page for Manrake?
I don't know how big Mandrake is though... but I guess your 8 GB should
be plenty to hold it ( SuSE 6.2 with _everything_ is about 4.2 Gb......)
> Thank You
> Bob Whitman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Drag)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why do FTP downloads stall under RH6.2 linux
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:45:49 GMT
Come on Nick. Take a scant few minutes to read the install
documentation. All of this is covered in a couple of paragraphs.
You could always complete the workstation install and then install the
rpm for netkit-base.
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:10:06 +0100, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In a previous article Michael Iwaki wrote:
>> What installation option did you use? If you used Workstation-class
>> installation, for Redhat 6.2, there is a note stating that it will not install
>> the network daemon, inetd.
>
>Where is the note?
>
>> Network-related services such as finger,telnet,talk
>> and ftp will not work. If you require these services, choose a server-or
>> custom-class installation.
>
>If I choose custom, what do I need to install to get e.g. inetd
>
>Nick
>-----We Solve your Computer Problems---
>Founder of the Prolifics User Group
>
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From: Wowie! It's Howie Zowie! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:39:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
sinister-catsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> robert w hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Ghost
> > In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> > >All in all, a nice little system, doing things which OS/2 had
> > >problems in < 4 meg of memory at the time (and DOS couldn't do
> > >at all).
> > >
> > >But Commodore dies, and Windows wins out over all. Go fig.
> > >
> > >[snip for brevity]
> > >
> > But, long before, there was OS9 level 2 on the 6809 - a system not to b=
> e
> > surpassed by Intel until the '386 (and Linux) ...
> >=20
> > and coming up to date (well fairly) - what's wrong with keeping the
> > horrible M$ stuff but running it under win4lin under linux - thus
> > keeping windows 9x in its right place as an ordinary task in linux
> > user-mode - see enthusiastic thread on alt.os.linux
>
> thats what I do, but I really only use windoze for games, someone needs t=
> o get
> off their buttocks and make an emulated workable version of directx, when=
> that
> happens Redmond truly can bite me. I've tried playing with installing dir=
> ectx
> 7.0 on win4lin and I have gotten some curious results. Directdraw kinda w=
> orks,
> direct3d, forget about it :(
>
>
You could always stick to opengl. Heck, on my win98 machine at home, I only
play one game that uses any directx libs. But, when the directx stuff is
emulated properly, you can bet yer bottom dollar that I'll use my linux box
for games full time!
--
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Year 2k Neo-Antiprophet
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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Word Format Automation - StarOffice??
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:59:11 -0400
I have a bunch of EPS graphs that are being created from matlab (under
Linux). I want to put these graphs in a MS Word document to send to a
customer. I can do this in StarOffice by importing each graph, then
saving as a MS Word doc, but I am going to have LOTS of them, and I HATE
pointing an clicking. Does anyone know if there is a way to automate
this process under StarOffice, or have pointers to documentaion that
explains this feature.
Or does anyone know of a program/method to create MS Word docs, from my
graphs? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Any TEX people out there?? What if I were to just use GNUPLOT with TEX
output instead of matlab? I don't know a thing about this program (TEX,
LATEX), but have wanted to learn. Can MS Word formats be created using
this?
--
Christopher A. Stevens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William W.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Opinions: An Adequate Starter System?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:08:45 GMT
In our last episode (Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:52:31 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Bento Loewenstein said:
>On Sat, 20 May 100 03:35:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>Also, any suggestions on the best Linux distribution for the neophyte?
>>That is, no brains required installation, works well enough the first
>>time, tweeking and fiddling can wait until later. I am considering
>>Debian, but the Stormix distro seems better, install and setup-wise.
>
>Avoid Debian and Slacware if you're new to Linux. This distros are suposed
>to be used by experienced users. They're extremelly hard to install and
>configure, and most of the administrative tasks are done by hand.
Don't lie before you try. While Debian and Slackware don't meet the
criteria of "no brains required installation," they're not hard to
install, nor is must of the administrivia done by hand. Debian,
certainly, pretty much runs itself post-install.
To the original poster, I would ask: is "no brains required
installation" really what you want? If ease of installation is the
priority for you, I understand that Corel Linux may possibly be the best
choice. But I would think that you can learn more from having do to at
least some work yourself and encountering a few bumps along the way
(perhaps having to start from scratch a few times in the process) than
you will by just having a distribution magically install itself. If its
not imperative to get a working Linux distribution up and running as
quickly as possible, why not try it the "hard" way? It's really not that
hard anyway; installing Debian Linux 2.2 is, in my estimation, certainly
no harder than installing Windows 95 under similar circumstances.
Slackware wasn't that hard the last time I tried either, and that was in
1997 installing off of floppy disks. I can only assume it's gotten even
easier.
Assuming you plan to use the system more often than you plan to install
it, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the initial hurdle of getting
the system installed. As long as it's easy enough to install, it
shouldn't matter whether it's the easiest; and pretty much all of them
are easy enough if you're willing to devote an hour or so and read the
prompts before you say OK.
BTW, I'd suggest installing and testing several distributions in order
to get the feel for the one that best suits you.
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