Linux-Misc Digest #736, Volume #19 Sun, 4 Apr 99 15:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Telnet real slow (EICONYC)
Re: Gimp 1.0.x and simple-beveled-button script (Dan Kegel)
kernel problem ("Nielsen")
Re: Newbie-Best Book (P.P. Sloekers)
Re: Newbie-Best Book (Tom Fawcett)
Re: Newbie-Best Book ("G. Feng")
re-dialling in pppd (shu ling)
Re: Newbie-Best Book ("SEATTLE")
KDE 1.1 and XWPE...screens get screwy??? (Daniel in Oregon)
Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? ("Edward A. Simmons")
Re: Communicator 5.1 will not run with AccelX but works fine with (Luc Lalonde)
Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command? (Markus Redeker)
diald loses control ("Stephen Thomas")
Re: LINUX SPARC (Dr Michael Storck)
Re: News path (Baxter Tocher)
Limiting amount of memory used for disk cache by Linux ("Ted Pavlic")
Re: hackers ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: Problems installing Red Hat 5.2 (jiunn)
Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? ("Testing")
Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command? (Rod Smith)
Re: Getting agetty to clear the screen (Josh Joyce)
Re: pppd reports "serial device is looped back" (Frank Hahn)
(Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ? (Timothy Murphy)
time problem (John Thompson)
Re: RH 5.2 NFS server dies ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUX SPARC (Dr Michael Storck)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (EICONYC)
Subject: Telnet real slow
Date: 4 Apr 1999 16:05:44 GMT
When I telnet into my Red Hat 5.2 Linux server, there is about a 2 minute wait
before I get the login prompt. Any clues as to where I should look?
P.S. I am using the Win98 Telnet program
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From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.apps.gimp
Subject: Re: Gimp 1.0.x and simple-beveled-button script
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:36:09 +0000
Dan Kegel wrote:
> I'm a first time Gimp user. I installed it to do some web graphics.
> After a few days of playing around, I found the simple-beveled-button
> script, and learned how to make a local copy of it so I could hack
> it up to my liking.
>
> My current problem is probably due to my lack of experience with
> Scheme and the Gimp scheme binding. I would like the text to be
> centered in a wider button. I have no problem making the button
> wider, but I can't seem to center it; all I can do is left
> or right justify it. ...
Looks like it was a simple scheme problem; I rewrote it to use
intermediate variables for everything, and it works.
I've written up a tutorial on using the Gimp for doing simple
web buttons. It's at http://www.kegel.com/linux/gimp.html
and is a rather harrowing tale.
I'd like to improve it; your comments are welcome.
- Dan
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From: "Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel problem
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:46:46 +0300
Just tried to compile kernel 2.2.2, when doing make menuconfig it gives an
error message: rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts/lxdialog all
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE -DCURSES_LOC
="<curses.h>" -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog',
and gives a whole bunch of messages that directory not found. Tryied to
compile other kernels (2.0.36, 2.2.5, 2.2.4), but the same thing, when I do
make dep it says something like:
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep
scripts/mkdep.c.
It is strange, It has happened before, and only way how I got it fixed was
reinstalling whole OS. well, now I dont want to do that. Funny make
menuconfig worked, and after I installed bzip2, it didnt anymore. So I
uninstalled the bzip2, but it didnt have any effect. Anyway, Im quite new
to linux, maybe someone can help, or knows what the propblem may be?
Kent Nielsen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P.P. Sloekers)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie-Best Book
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:05:56 GMT
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 09:16:52 -0400, "slick7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Which is/are the best books for a beginner. I have a good working knowledge
>of W95/98.---Thanks, Joan
>
>
One of the best books on Linux I know is:
"Running Linux" Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman (2nd edition Revised &
Updated) ISBN 1-56592-151-8
O'Reilly @ Associates, Inc.
It covers all major topics in (reasonable) depth (it takes some
study!)
Succes, P.P. Sloekers
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
P.P. Sloekers The Netherlands
Reply direct (anti-spam):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie-Best Book
Date: 04 Apr 1999 10:47:49 -0400
"slick7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Which is/are the best books for a beginner. I have a good working knowledge
> of W95/98.---Thanks, Joan
There are several available on the net:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/index.html#faq
Last I checked, both "Installation and Getting Started" and "Linux Users'
Guide" were good for beginners.
-Tom
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From: "G. Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie-Best Book
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:22:55 -0400
I like Michael Kofler's "Linux: Installation, Configuration, Use".
I just got David Pitts an Bill Ball's "Red Hat Linux Unleashed", 3rd Ed.,
from Sams (including Red hat 5.2), seems it's very good also.
slick7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7e7oji$7q6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Which is/are the best books for a beginner. I have a good working
knowledge
> of W95/98.---Thanks, Joan
>
>
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From: shu ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: re-dialling in pppd
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:16:08 +0800
How to write the chat script (or use other ways) used by pppd to
automatically redial when the line is busy?
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From: "SEATTLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie-Best Book
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:37:04 -0600
try this site
http://home.att.net/~aubreyb
Click the Linux Link
HTH
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From: Daniel in Oregon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE 1.1 and XWPE...screens get screwy???
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:40:55 +0000
--
I have installed KDE 1.1 and I love it....however when I run XWPE...the whole screen
gets screwed up.
I have tried all the different Konsole settings and nothing seems to change it....
I wonder if it's a font thing...??
Any help would be appreciated....
Daniel
A sadist is a masochist who follows the Golden Rule.
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:37:15 -0400
From: "Edward A. Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Jon Slater wrote:
> I've got IP Masquerading and 'diald' working between my baby network at
> home.
>
> I don't like 'diald'. It works fine. But I want something a little
> more interactive.
>
> I would like to be able to dial-up and hangup from a remote machine.
You might want to take a look at a program called WebPPP. It works with
Apache and can be called up from any machine on your network that has a
browser. It will do what you want.
>
> What I came up with was:
>
> Set up two login accounts.
> One to start PPP.
> One to hangup.
> Then from a remote telnet session, start and stop the modem.
>
> But, I would like something a little 'cleaner'.
>
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jon
> --
> Jon D. Slater QualComm Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6150 Lookout Road
> Phone: (303) 247-5037 Boulder, Colorado
> Fax: (303) 247-5167 80301
--
=======================================================================
Edward A. Simmons, MCSE * Dayton, Ohio * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=======================================================================
12:30pm up 32 days, 18:35, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.04, 0.01
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From: Luc Lalonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Communicator 5.1 will not run with AccelX but works fine with
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:50:41 -0400
downlad the glibc2 version from the netscape
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Redeker)
Subject: Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command?
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:23:06 +0200
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, Linux uses the HLT opcode, and yes, your CPU runs cooler with
> Linux than with (say) Windows.
I never tought that the use of a processor command should change the CPU
temperature visibly. So what is the secret of the HLT command?
If HLT stands for "halt" and is used to eliminate busy waiting, it could
have some (small or big?) effect on CPU load, I think. Is this the answer?
Markus
--
Markus Redeker | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamburg, Germany
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From: "Stephen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: diald loses control
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:17:47 -0500
I am having problems with diald (I think). I have it setup to do my ppp
dial-up and then my masquerade script is run so my other computers can reach
the internet. Everything seems to work fine except 2 things.
1. When I'm not connected to the net, diald dials up my provider about every
20 minutes.
2. When I have been conected for a while, an hour or two, diald seems to
lose control of the modem. It does not disconnect and dctrl, diald-top hang
when run. I have to ctrl-c to get out of them.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Michael Storck)
Subject: Re: LINUX SPARC
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:29:14 +0200
Charles E Taylor IV schrieb:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Michael Storck) writes:
>
> > The RedHat distribution has no graphic www browser.
> > Could anybody be so kind and compile either arena or
> > mosaic for me to run on the sparc ?
>
> Why not just download Netscape Navigator (4.5)? Netscape
> has put out a version for S/Linux.
Because when you try to download it from germany the netscape
server tells me i am not allowed to get it because they built
it with strong ssl encryption and you need a special license
to use that outside the usa !
Mike
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From: Baxter Tocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: News path
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:51:10 +0000
Anders G. Olstad wrote:
> > after I collected news, I see:
> > news.ednet.co.uk!localhost.localdomain!nobody
> > Do I need to reconfigure something? If so, what?
>
> You might set another hostname than localhost.localdomain, but I don't
> think that's necessary for your newsreading/writing. Unless you're running
> a newsserver on your linux box.
Odd. I have already.
Baxter
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From: "Ted Pavlic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Limiting amount of memory used for disk cache by Linux
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:31:11 -0400
Does anyone know how to limit the amount memory used for disk cache by
Linux?
Before everyone says, "No! You don't want to do that! That's bad!" Let me
explain my situation.
I have a RAID that has its own disk cache, and I receive much better
performance if I let my RAID handle the caching and have Linux leave it
alone.
I'm using the Linux 2.2.5 kernel.
I've experimented with /proc/sys/vm, but any changes I make there don't seem
to have any effect on actual caching.
Can anyone help?
--
. Ted Pavlic <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tedpavlic.com/
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: kingston.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: hackers
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:19:27 +0000
"David M. Cook" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 05:14:32 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >sudden there's another process running "make whatis". I
>
> It's just a cronjob that runs weekly. Redhat should document these in their
> manual if they don't already. I remember working with slackware at 7:45 in
> the morning when the hard drive starting cranking away. I thought I'd been
> hacked. That's when slack scheduled the locate database update.
FWIW these kinds of now-and-then background jobs *should*
set themselves to priorities somewhere behind pathetic.
Given the habits of Linux users you certainly can't count
on time-of-day or -week to avoid collisions!
[Anyone else read Rick Cook's _The_Wizardry_Compiled_?
If you haven't, get the reprint from Baen -- two books
together called _The_Wiz_Biz_ Lethally funny with too
many in-jokes on hacker culture to save you from busting
a gut. Trust us on this.]
--
He either fears his fate too much, or his deserts are small,
That puts it not unto the touch to win or lose it all.
D. C. & M. V. Sessions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: jiunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems installing Red Hat 5.2
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:24:01 -0800
Jorge wrote:
> Hi,
>
> These days I have been trying to install Red Hat 5.2 in my house but I
> couldn't even load the installation program. When I boot my computer from
> the Linux CD I see a lot of messages on the screen and then the computer
> hangs up. The last one says this:
>
> ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000 - 0xf007
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008 - 0xf00f
>
> I have a Pentium MMX 200 with an Intel Triton TX motherboard, a 3.2 Gb
> Caviar HD as primary master and an Acer 32x CD-ROM as secondary master.
> I guess the problem must be related to hardware. If someone has an idea of
> what happens I would be really greteful.
>
> Thanks
> Jorge Merlino
Try booting from the bootdisk attached.
On the start of the installation enter linux hdX=cdrom
where X in a - 1st IDE controller,master
b - 1st IDE controller,slave
c - 2nd IDE controller, master
d - 2nd IDE controller, slave
This is an extraction from the isntallation guide. Get a copy.
Try linus hdc=cdrom for you case.
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From: "Testing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:29:02 GMT
Try eXceed, it's by far the fastest and most feature-filled of them all.
Costs money though, so be prepared to take out your pocketbook.
http://www.hcl.com
Cyrus Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7e1o6d$nd7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> Hi,
>
> I am creating a dual Windows/Linux environment using Samba for file
serving
> on a standard Ethernet network. I was wondering what kind of X server
software
> for the Windows side I could use to run some X windows apps off of the
LInux Box.
>
> Reliability is the most important factor, windows will crash often enough
without
> the help of the X server.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> CKM
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command?
Date: 4 Apr 1999 18:36:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7e7b5i$fpt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John Fee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> It was the Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:11:38 +0100...
>> ..and John Fee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > When I use Linux for the same sort of workload as Win98+CPUIdle my CPU
> runs
>> > several degrees hotter. I was lead to believe that UNIX based systems
> ran
>> > the HLT command intrinsically. Anyone know anything about this?
>>
>> Yes, Linux uses the HLT opcode, and yes, your CPU runs cooler with
>> Linux than with (say) Windows.
>
> No. mine runs hotter.
What CPU do you have? If it's a Cyrix, you may need to use a little
utility to have the HLT instruction behave as it should. (By default,
when a Cyrix 6x86, at least, boots up, HLT doesn't do much; but you can
change a register value on the 6x86 and the HLT instruction will start
working. I don't know if this is true of more recent 6x86 CPUs.)
Another possibility is that Linux or your particular Linux configuration
is doing something less efficiently than Win98. For instance, you may
have processes running under Linux that shouldn't be running, chewing up
CPU time. Try using the "uptime" command when your system is idle. This
tells you how long your system has been up, and it gives three recent
"load average" values. On a system with no CPU-intensive programs
running, those values should all be pretty low. On my system right now, I
get 0.00, 0.02, and 0.04, for instance. If you've got one CPU-intensive
program running, they'd be closer to 1.0. If you're getting high load
averages on a supposedly idle system, use the "top" command to find out
what the culprit is. This will list the processes in descending order of
CPU use. Check what's using a lot of CPU time, and either ask about it if
you don't know what it is or kill it if it's something you know shouldn't
be running. If it keeps popping up even after you kill it, or after you
reboot, you may need to track down whatever's launching it (maybe a chron
job or init script) and disable it.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: Josh Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting agetty to clear the screen
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:34:05 GMT
Nick Lucent wrote:
>
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:19:07 GMT, Josh Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <>Hi,
> <>Is there any way that I can get agetty to clear the screen for
> <>login/logout?
> <>
> <>Thanks.
> <>Josh
>
> If your using csh/tcsh put 'clear' in ~/.logout and ~/.login. For bash you
> can put 'clear' at the top of your .profile, and alias exit to clear &&
> logout.
>
> Nick
Yeah, I though maybe it would do it for me, like mingetty or getty.
Thanks!
Josh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: pppd reports "serial device is looped back"
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:54:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:27:17 +0800, shu ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I run "pppd /dev/ttyS1 38400", I read "serial device is looped
>back" from my /var/log/messages.
>Anybody has simliar experience and offer me some pointers? Thanks.
>
Try searching http://www.dejanews.com. It seems to be a common
problem. I think this is also covered in the FAQ included with
the ppp sources. Your connect script is not working correctly.
--
Frank Hahn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: (Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ?
Date: 4 Apr 1999 19:38:15 +0100
Could some kind soul tell me where to find an rpm for pgp (Pretty Good Privacy)?
(Preferably the latest version.)
Is there some reason why this is not on the RedHat CDs?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: time problem
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:56:46 -0600
I thought I had all this time zone nonsense straightened
out. Wrong.
I have my system (RH5.1, kernel 2.2.1) configured with a
link:
/etc/localtime -> ../usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central
This should be fine, as I live directly north of Chicago.
But I come down this morning and find that my system clock
is one hour ahead of where it should be. I have rdate -s
running as a cron job to synchronize the clock with another
machine on my network (the other machine handles all the
automated dial-in to the internet and synch's with the NIST
time server when it connects). The clock in the other
machine is just fine. But when I run rdate on this machine
it returns a time one hour ahead of the time on the time
server machine. Must be a problem with this machine's
config, yes? So I look at the TZ variable: TZ=CST6CDT.
Seems OK to me; same as what's on the local time server
machine it rdate's to. I change it to TZ=CST7CDT and now
rdate returns the proper time. WTF, it works. But if I
reboot, it's back to one hour ahead again! Grr! So I
cobble in an rdate -s to my /etc/rc.d/rc.local to synch the
machine with the time sever when it boots. Not the most
elegant solution, but it ought to work until I figure out
how to fix it properly. But wait, there's more! Syslogd is
logging some things an hour ahead of the rest of the system:
Apr 4 12:34:06 starfleet john: mark
Apr 4 13:34:12 starfleet PAM_pwdb[1125]: (su) session
opened for user root by john(uid=0)
Apr 4 12:34:22 starfleet john: mark
What's up with this? What's the *real* way to fix this?
Yes, I *did* try dejanews first; nothing useful there.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: RH 5.2 NFS server dies
Date: 4 Apr 1999 18:38:42 GMT
In linux.redhat.misc Ron Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
# The NFS server is nfs-server-2.2beta37-1 which comes with RH 5.2. I
# haven't found any version newer than that.
you can try going to the 2.2 kernel w/ knfsd ... tends to work a bit better.
--
To reply via mail, please remove the obvious from the email address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Michael Storck)
Subject: Re: LINUX SPARC
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:54:12 +0200
> Charles E Taylor IV schrieb:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Michael Storck) writes:
> >
> > > The RedHat distribution has no graphic www browser.
> > > Could anybody be so kind and compile either arena or
> > > mosaic for me to run on the sparc ?
> >
> > Why not just download Netscape Navigator (4.5)? Netscape
> > has put out a version for S/Linux.
> Because when you try to download it from germany the netscape
> server tells me i am not allowed to get it because they built
> it with strong ssl encryption and you need a special license
> to use that outside the usa !
> Mike
Actually the trick is
do n o t use the netscape www/html page !
The link for unix - unsupported - 40 bit intntlsec - naviagtor
is wrong and is obviously linked to the 124bit us version.
If you click and try to download it the site pings and traceroute
you and if you are from outside usa they won t let you download it
Go to the ftp -site (ftp://ftp.netscape.com) then to
/public
/navigator
/unsupported
and you con download the 40 bit intl version.
Unpacked it on my old trusty sparc and runs like a thoroughbred.
Thanks for the hint
Mike
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