Linux-Misc Digest #738, Volume #18 Sat, 23 Jan 99 21:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: installing win95 on slave disk ("jdn")
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Audio on NEC Versa 4000 family laptops? (It works! Yay!) (Dan Birchall)
Re: Notebook buy without Windooze? (Zoltan Kocsi)
WP8 Problems: When scrolling down, it crashes on Slackware 3.4 (Cy Foughty)
Re: 2038 and Linux (mlw)
Cable modem & networking (Daystrom)
Cable Modem US Robotics VSP Plus ("VTR News")
Re: Newbie Question (marc-paul lee)
Re: How to read mail/news using Netscape on Redhat 5.2 ???? (lucas)
Re: set environ variable in bash (Bill Simpson)
84 key keyboard + X question (William Wueppelmann)
Redhat vs Slackware (Iven Connary)
Re: Linux defrag? (Sam Vere)
Re: No floppy in Linux ? (Stephen Richard FREELAND)
Re: Any program conver text file to g3 format file ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (allacircle)
Bash Script Programming ("Brian Kaczmarek")
Re: How I would like to mangle my filesystem... (Loren Brookes)
libm.so.4? (Jeffery Chow)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Chris Ebenezer)
Autofowarding based on interface? (Kevin Currie)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (allacircle)
Re: Re: PROPOSAL: comp.unix.year-2038 (WAS: 2038 and Linux) (Adrian
'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: ppp-server problem (Bill Unruh)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 15:42:31 +0100
Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The problem with remapping is that sometimes the Caps lock key
> toggles, that is it is on and off.
Hm? What did you do to get a Control-Lock key?
Under X11 the trick is to assign the Control keysym to the keycode of
the Caps-Lock key, rather than adding Caps-Lock to the keysym list of
the ctrl modifier.
For the Linux console, the emacs2.map seems to work well.
kai
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From: "jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing win95 on slave disk
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:51:59 -0600
Windows does *not* demand that it be installed in the first partition of the
first drive, and it doesn't even demand that it be installed in the primary
partition.
jdn
Wowix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>sad to tell u ...theres no way..WIndoze shut will want to install in the
primary
>partition
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I have linux installed on my machine, and want to put in my second hard
disk
>> and install windoze95 on it so that I can play my games. Now, I know
that
>> Windoze demands that it be installed on the first partition on the first
>> disk, but I was wondering if there is a way around this. Any help would
be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Morgan Terry
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 15:48:25 +0100
"Mark A. Flacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Your redundancy isn't. Your lack of capitalization would imply
> that you're unlearned, but I really don't think that you give a
> flying f**k what I think.
In what way does use of capital letters or lack thereof imply anything
about being `unlearned'?
kai
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Birchall)
Subject: Re: Audio on NEC Versa 4000 family laptops? (It works! Yay!)
Date: 18 Jan 1999 04:20:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Following up to my own message! :) I wrote:
>My wife has a Versa 4080H, dual-booting Linux (900mb) and GEOS
>(New Deal Office '98, 100mb), and she'd probably be overjoyed if
>I could find any way at all of making it do sounds other than
>beeping (especially if I could find a way without screwing with
>her kernel, since things otherwise pretty much work right now. :)
The Versa 4080H's ESS Technology ES88S audio chip is, indeed, one of
the few _really_ compatible SoundBlaster clones out there. I dinked
around with Red Hat's "sndconfig" program for far too long before I
finally thought of plugging in some headphones. Wham-o - sound!
Woohoo!
My wife was quite surprised by all this - especially when I hooked
her laptop up to the stereo and it played Faith No More's "Epic!"
With an MP3 player, a WAV player, an MPEG video player and RealPlayer,
she's pretty much set. :)
The 4000-series Versas are kind of interesting in the volume-control
department - it's got a walkman-style volume dial on the right side
by the minijacks, _and_ hitting Fn-F6 cycles through four built-in
settings (mute/low/medium/high) as well.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get so much as a peep out of
the speakers in the lid (where speakers belong... ;) but we might
just snag a cheap pair of powered speakers and run them off the
minijack instead. Not a big deal. (Of course, if anyone with a
4000-series Versa has pointers on getting the ones in the lid going,
that'd be cool too. :)
-Dan
--
Dan Birchall, Haddonfield NJ. Linux, NEC Versa 2000C, Cannondale
"Make sure wheel is correctly attached to bicycle before riding!"
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From: Zoltan Kocsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Notebook buy without Windooze?
Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:49:31 +1100
Matthias Kattanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am on the market for a new notebook. Since I am already running Linux
> for 4-5 years
> sucessfully on notebooks, sure I plan to use it on the new one too.
>
> Looking around, trying to get a good deal, I only seem to find notebooks
> with
> Windooze pre-installed. This is how most of the shops stock computers
> today.
> [ ... ]
>
> But where does this leave the notebook?
> Does somebody know place where to buy notbooks without windooze?
It probably wouldn't help you too much but I have recently bought a
no-name laptop or notebook (where's the border between them ?) in a
small no-name computer shop. They told me that it included Windows'98.
I told them that I didn't need it, best would be if the machine came
with an empty disk. They grabbed the machine, booted from a DOS floppy,
formatted the drive and gave me the machine for AU $200 less than
the original price.
Good sign.
Zoltan
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| Bendor Research Pty. Ltd. | but I rely on them. |
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From: Cy Foughty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WP8 Problems: When scrolling down, it crashes on Slackware 3.4
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:32:49 GMT
Have you seen this. It happens when I import a Microsoft Word97
document.
Using page down key.
Cy ;->
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:15:20 +0000
Tim Smith wrote:
>
> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >will be fine. It is only routines like:
> >
> >time_t t1 = time(0);
> >time_t t_elapsed;
> >
> >while(1)
> >{
> > t_elapsed = time(0) - t1;
> > if(t_elapsed > 3600) // do it for an hour
> > break;
> > sleep(100);
> > // Do something here 10 times a second
> >}
> >
> >The above routine will fail once in 2038 (on a 32 bit platform). Other
>
> [You aren't allowed to use time_t that way--you are supposed to use
> difftime. I will ignore that, and pretend that time_t is a 32-bit
> integer representation of the number of seconds since the Unix epoch]
Almost everyone uses time_t that way.
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit the Mohawk Software website: www.mohawksoft.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daystrom)
Subject: Cable modem & networking
Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:40:04 GMT
I am using Slackware and am planning on getting Roadrunner cable modem service. I
would like to be
able to dial into my Linux box via the modem and use it as a gateway to the net using
the
cable modem. I currently have a 28.8 modem, 3Com 10/100 PCI nic, and will be adding a
small hub soon to
connect my Win98 machine to.
I know this has to be possible with Linux. What should I read or know?
Todd
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From: "VTR News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.misc,de.comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Cable Modem US Robotics VSP Plus
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:36:38 -0400
I have a Cable modem US Robotics VSP Plus on my computer. I can't find the
driver that works. The modem part of my Cable modem is a Winmodem, so I
think it will not work. However I only need to setup the Network adapter
part of the cable modem and use another modem to get connected.
Is there someone able to help me ?????????
thanks,
Alain Mazoyer R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marc-paul lee)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Newbie Question
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:44:13 GMT
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:21:06 -0600, "Charles Riley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't get my modem to work in Linux...(I just started installing today...)
>
>Chip Riley
i'm a newbie, too, and had the same problem with my modem. turns out
it's a "winmodem" and will only work with windows. (apparently it
takes advantage of the windows software to get rid of some chips on
board, thus saving hardware costs). i had to buy a new modem that
will work with any o/s and then everything was fine.
in short, my guess is that you have a winmodem and you'll need to buy
a new one. i found a good deal at egghead.com and compusa on a
cardinal modem. seems 33.6 is ot so popular anymore. : )
good luck!
** mp **
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From: lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to read mail/news using Netscape on Redhat 5.2 ????
Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:59:00 GMT
I took a change and downloaded the 2.0 version, all 15 meg. (1.5 hour)
Guess, its my lucky day. It installed and ran with no problem. Much
better than the original from redhat 5.2.
This linux thing has got me motivated again.
Thanks to the fine folks on this NG.
lucas
MikeP wrote:
>
> Thomas Boggs wrote:
> >
> > lucas wrote:
> >
> > > By the way, which version should I download for V4.5 (Rehat 5.2)?
> > > I saw v1.2 and V2.0 on the netscape site for linux.
> > > I'm on a dial-up and hate to go thru the downs to find out it' the wrong
> Its referring to the linux kernel version. Redhat comes with 2.0.35 or
> 2.0.36, so get the 2.0 version.
>
> --
> -] Michael Proto [-
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:53:36 -0600
From: Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: set environ variable in bash
> I put the following in .bashrc (in fact it is the only thing in that file)
>
> BIBINPUTS=/home/wsimpson/papers/bib; export BIBINPUTS
>
> Then I log off and on again. When I subsequently do
> echo $BIBINPUTS
> I get nothing. It seems as though BIBINPUTS has not been set after all.
> Please tell me how to set it. (It seems that just putting a line in
> .bashrc doesn't do it; maybe I should put it somewhere else).
I just changed the file name to .bash_profile and now it works.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: 84 key keyboard + X question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:06:00 GMT
I have an old 84-key keyboard. It had 10 function keys and a numeic keypad
with cursor and home/end/PgUp/PgDn keys overlaid, but no autonomous cursor key
or paging key clusters. I really like the keyboard since the control key is
in the right spot, and the quality of the hardware itself is far better than
any PC compatible keyboard I've seen in many, many years, so I'd like to keep
using it. However, I have a few problems under X.
Some X applications require the use of cursor keys (e.g. Netscape uses
ALT+Left as its `back' binding, xkoules uses the cursor keys to move between
menu optiosn) but most of these don't seem to recognize the cursor keys on the
numeric keypad. Ironically, in all cases where I really couldn't have cared
less if the cursor keys were available (in vi, emacs, anything on console
really) the application in question *does* recognize the cursor keys on the
keypad.
Could anyone give me any instruction or pointers on the matter of making the
cursor keys on the numeric keypad behave as such? I assume it's got something
to do with how X is mapping scan codes as opposed to the way termcap is doing
it, but if someone could point me to a good place to start working on the
problem (or give me a quick solution), I'd very much appreciate it.
cheers.
--
William
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From: Iven Connary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat vs Slackware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:38:40 GMT
Greetings -
I'm looking to set up a firewall/NAT linux box for my network, and need
to pick a distribution.
This is going to be a production box, and must be up at all times. I
don't want something that I'll have to putz around with for weeks to get
running and keep running.
Any recommendation for a distribution? I'm guessing it'll be either
Redhat or Slackware, my question is which which is more tried and tested
- and more suitable for this application?
Thanks,
Iven Connary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Subject: Re: Linux defrag?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:36:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 22 Jan 1999 06:24:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Ruediger)
wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:57:14 GMT, Brian Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Has anyone successfully defraged a linux partition using defrag 0.73
>>which is available in rpm format.
>>I continually get the error message - bad magic number in superblock.
>>fsck finds no problems with the same partition.
>>Any ideas please.
>
>Why do you want to defrag your linux partition? I think, it makes only
>sense, if you're having an FATish filesystem. Ext2 is "selfdefragmenting"
>and you can see it, when you (or automaticly at bootup) look at the output
>of fsck. It's only 1..2% defragmented.
0.7% most recently. That's on a fairly full drive, too.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Akane's cooking,
| The Varaiyah Cycle
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From: Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No floppy in Linux ?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 15:49:44 GMT
JiPUSTRADAMUS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> What will I have to tell the system in order to access a floppy drive ?
: mount (for dos-disks)-t msdos /dev/fd0 /mounting/point.
Or alternatively (you may prefer this, no mounting or unmounting
necessary -- at least, not manually) you can use mtools to access
a floppy the same way you would in dos, using the "drive letters" idea.
Ciao... . SNF .
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Steve 'Nephtes' Freeland | Okay, so maybe I'm a tiny itty little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | bit of a minimalist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,de.alt.comm.mgetty
Subject: Re: Any program conver text file to g3 format file ?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:40:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wilson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,
: I have tried pbmtext comes with mgetty. It seems it not working
: correctly. Is there any other program can do the job correctly ?
: Any help is appreciated !
Look for an application called "efax".
The packet includes a conversion utility, if I remember it right.
Regards,
Friedhelm
--
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
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Friedhelm Mehnert, Berliner Allee 42, 22850 Norderstedt, Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:14:26 -0500
<SNIP>
> I know how to use my computer, and
> therefore, I want to use it to it's maximum capacity. Hence, I Linux.
>
> >8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
> >#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
> >while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
> >if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
> >if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
> >substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
> >$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
> >printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
> >8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8
<SNIP>
You also know how to hack the NOSPAM out of e-mail addresses which to me
shows that you can't possibly be a snob.
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quothe DogBert,"Some say the computer industry is built on silicon.
I think foam and platic are equally important. "
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From: "Brian Kaczmarek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bash Script Programming
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:27:55 -0500
I'm looking for good resources that describe bash programming in depth...
>From all the books I have, they just give the basic commands and functions,
and the man pages aren't giving me enough information either. If anyone can
help me out, I'd appreciate it greatly. Thanks
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From: Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How I would like to mangle my filesystem...
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:17:10 +1300
I had m$ on hda and linux on hdc. I used a file manager from within
linux to delete everything on hda. Then made it into an ext2 with
mke2fs. Copied /usr from hdc to hda as /usr1. Closed all my unnecessary
programs.
Then used xfm _my smallest file manager_ to *quickly* rename /usr to
/usr2, then /usr1 to /usr.
My heart was pounding but it worked. I had to adjust mtab and fstab to
reflect the change. But had no problems at all.
Loren
Logan wrote:
>
> Forgive the length of this post...
>
> I currently have / on /dev/hdb1.
>
> What I would like to do is use the "ex's" M$ hard drive which is
> /dev/hda1
>
> What I want to do is the following:
>
> 1. use fdisk and erradicate the remains of M$ from my machine and make a
> ext2 and a 32M swap space partition.
>
> 2. run lilo to revamp the MBR.
>
> 3. move "mv" /usr to the ext2 partion to /dev/hda1
>
> 4. fix my fstab to reflect the above changes.
>
> 5. umount and remount and swapon the above.
>
> Will this work?
>
> Post or E-mail response. Remove SPAM to E-mail
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Logan
> --
> Linux Kernel 2.0.32 on a i486/100Mhz
> 5:17pm up 37 days, 45 min, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.13, 0.05
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From: Jeffery Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: libm.so.4?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:45:02 GMT
Hi, where can I get a copy of libm.so.4.?.o? I installed an
app that needs this old (math??)library and I can't seem to
find it anywhere on the net. Is there a site out there that
keeps these old files around?
TIA,
Jeff
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From: Chris Ebenezer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:18:44 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: more easily. I seriously doubt, however, that German can be read
: faster than any other language. Did it ever even occur to you that
Yes, but on the other hand, German would be easier to scan for nouns.
Not having had experience with reading text in which nouns are
'emphasised' in such a manner, i wouldn't be able to speculate on the
positive or negative effects of this.
The human eye can probably search through text for lexical delimiters
faster than it can for syntactical or grammatical delimiters - if you
ignore extremes.
Maybe the period and capitalization and their relative sizes have
evolved more or less because the start of a sentence is more important
than its end. Sure, use of both is redundant, but then there is so much
other redundancy in languages I'm not sure that it's worth getting
worked up about it.
--
chris
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From: Kevin Currie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Autofowarding based on interface?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:18:07 -0500
Hello,
I am stuck behind a firewall that doesn't allow me to access my computer
from off campus. However, I have access to a computer on campus runnin
Linux that could do the forwarding for me. Does anyone know of something
similar to ipautofw or ipportfw that would allow me to simply forward all
packets that come in _on only one of the interfaces_ to another computer? I
don't think ipfwadm can do this, at least not that I have been able to
setup. Any hints or references (other than the howtos and man pages which I
have read) would be apprecitated.
Thanks,
Kevin Currie
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:30:00 -0500
Michael, I got your whole argument except for
Michael Lee Yohe wrote:
<SNIP>
> I merely admire what Microsoft has done for the computing industry in terms
> of quality of applications (please don't shoot me), the power of
> applications (compare Photoshop to Harvard Graphics of 5-10 years ago), and
> a unity of programming style (I like the fact that apps have the same
> _basic_ behaviour - cut/paste, drag/drop, etc.)
<SNIP>
Adobe makes PhotoShop, not Microsoft so i dont understand why you would even
use PS. (Gimp is better than PS in my oppinion cause hell its free)
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quothe DogBert,"Some say the computer industry is built on silicon.
I think foam and platic are equally important. "
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.software.year-2000,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Re: PROPOSAL: comp.unix.year-2038 (WAS: 2038 and Linux)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:22:38 GMT
On 22 Jan 1999 03:12:15 GMT, Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[...], then it will be time for renaming it to
>c.s.y2k+38 or similar. Or keep the name and be the Y2K+38 newsgroup.=20
Or rename it to something more general, like c.s.date-problems or
so.
--
Greets from over there
Dagurashibanipal
EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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With, of course, the exception of bad news. -- D. Adams
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:24:10 -0700
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > |Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>
> > Haven't chosen it yet. Just trying to get comments before trying
> > a 70 MB download at home or spending the money for one at work.
>
> I've been trying to use StarOffice, but on a sparcstation LX it is
> *painfully* slow. I get much better results using the real Office 97 on
I have been using StarOffice since 4.0. I use it to produce my
professional writings and have no problems with it. I have Redhat 5.2, 64
MB RAM, and a Celeron 300a oc'd to 338MHz.
It is and always has started up slow...the reason is that StarOffice has
everything incorporated into it, the spreadsheet, browser, email,
wordprocessor, etc, and when you start staroffice, the ENTIRE set starts,
not just some aspect or subapp in staroffice. Once it is up, it works
fine and quickly (for me, at least). I don't use the web browser
function, I use NS for that. I don't use the email, I use pine or NS mail
for that.
I have had to transfer some text from Word97 to staroffice...and I had no
problems in my case - but on the other hand, I have NEVER used a
wordprocessor that could properly, in every case, export another app's
format such that it would open up without any format glitches in the other
wordprocessor. That includes Word exporting to WordPerfect and vice
versa, Describe exporting to Word or importing Word docs, etc.
KOffice or SIAG may be nice but they have the problem of using their own
very limited and propriatory formats that are less portable (read this to
mean that if you need to use Word, then there is difficulty in
transporting docs from KOffice (based on LaTex) or SIAG to Word.
One thing at least...if your chosen wordprocessor will save docs in RTF,
then you are set. Essentially any and all wordprocessors worth anything
will import RTF. You may need to do some wp-specific reformatting but it
is the closest to a universally accepted format I can think of.
Basically, I have no problems with StarOffice 5.0 interacting with Word
(various versions) at my university, both on Macs and PCs. I have WP 8.0
but haven't untar'd it and installed it yet. Not sure if I will. The
nice thing, for me, with StarOffice, is the integrated graphics editing.
I need to be able to create tables and basic graphics for publication and,
naturally, StarOffice's graphics are compatible with its wordprocessor
format so I can cleanly integrate the images into a paper, if needed.
This is one of the main reasons I have yet to install/use WP.
patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ppp-server problem
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:32:51 GMT
In <78an83$aom$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I installed a linux-dialin-server and started a connection from a win95-pc.I
What does "started a connection" mean? Do you have ppp running? How do
you know?
Can you ping the server's IP number (not name). If yes, you have a ppp
connection. They your porblem is probably that your win machine does not
have a DNS name server to get its addresses from. Does Win have a hosts
file? Make sure that the name of your server is in the hosts file.
>can get a connection and log in, but I am not able to ping the ra-server
>from windows dos-box and vice versa and so I am not able to start a ftp to
>the server to down- or upload files. I tried nearly everything to get rid of
>the problem, but I can't see the point.
>/etc/ppp/options :
>lock
>115200
>crtscts
>modem
>debug
Add
kdebug 7
and look in /var/log/messages
And what about defaultroute?
>/etc/ppp/dialin :
>silent
>auth
>+chap
>-ipx-protocol
>200.1.1.1:200.1.1.2
What are these numbers and where did they come from?
>proxyarp
You also do not tell us what the setup of the machines is? Ae these two
issolated machines? Is one connected to the internet (eg via ethernet)
and the other not?...
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