Linux-Misc Digest #761, Volume #18               Mon, 25 Jan 99 22:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (John Doe)
  Re: Boot question (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
  Re: Changed Lilo boot options, now Win98 won't boot (Paul Colquhoun)
  Re: Linux instead of Windows - just one problem (Paul Colquhoun)
  Re: Start of Discussion Linux vers NT (steve mcadams)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (steve mcadams)
  Screwy printer woes (Jesse Hughes)
  HELP:How to set up Canon MultiPass C5000 printer under RH5.1? (Zhihui Zhao)
  Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Erik Naggum)
  Re: Changed Lilo boot options, now Win98 won't boot ("Justin Ryan [PHT]")
  Re: Kernel 2.2.0-pre9 and kerneld (Dan Nguyen)
  Re: Zip disk (Curtis Newton)
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Ken Witherow)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Daniel McGregor)
  Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Can't save bookmarks (Seth Van Oort)
  Re: Zip disk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Jim Frost)
  Question about netcfg (Eric Wyles)
  Re: Linux defrag? (David E. Fox)

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From: John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:14:54 -0800

I think that the OEMs should rebel and refuse to pay the high prices and
start bundling BeOS and Linux as the default OS's for a year or 2 and
make people have to install Windows as a second OS from off the shelf.
Let's see how many people flock to it because it is the "superior"
choice. Only idiots like scott nudds would. People like him would get a
second morgage so that they could try to increase microsoft's
marketshare again after it would plumit

e-frog wrote:
> 
> David Kastrup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : "Shane Hulbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> : > No I guess they do not operate illegally, just immorally.
> 
> : Well, then how do you explain the various court orders they have
> : received, for example forcing them to abandon their illegal practice
> : of per CPU licensing, where vendors would have to pay for a copy of
> : Windows per computer regardless of whether they put it on the
> : computer, in return for discounts?
> 
> Wow, that was ancient history in computer time!
> 
> Yeah, for you youngsters out there, MS used to charge computer makers for
> every computer shipped, even if MSDOS/Windows wasn't on the machine. The
> manufacturers, then, would ship only MSDOS/Windows, obviously, since they
> were paying for it anyways. Nobody was going to pay double for an OS/2
> machine even if MS software wasn't on the machine.
> 
> By the time the courts got around to fixing that problem, the damage was
> already done.
> 
> In more current history, no, MS hasn't actually been proven to be illegal.
> Yet.
> 
> But very, very immoral yes. See the trial going on now. See the news about
> MS treatment of temp. workers, it all goes on.
> Mostly, it galls people in the compsci/engineering community to:
> 
> 1) Be limited in their freedom to choose.
> 2) Arguably the largest software company in the world produces software
> which is technically NOT ahead of its competition and some would even
> argue that it is clearly behind. And beyond the technical merits, the
> quality is also suspect.
> 3) The lies that MS puts out about being innovative. There is rarely
> anything innovative from MS besides Marketing strategies. e.g. "New"
> Cleartype technology, which they didn't realize that Wozniak et al.
> developed, oh, over 10 years ago for the AppleIIe.
> IBM lead the way 3 years? or more running now in patents issued.
> Including patents from their software division. It would be interesting to
> see how any came from MS.
> 
> I wouldn't mind so much (but a little bit) if MS were a monoply if MS put
> out the clearly better products! As a technical minded person, I hate
> seeing inferior products become standardized.
> 
> Well, that's my rant about the world.
> 
> Isaac


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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Boot question
Date: 25 Jan 1999 16:45:25 -0800

"Alex Silov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>     I made a rather stupid mistake tonight.  I changed files
> "HOSTNAME" and "hosts" located in /etc manually to my intended
> host and domain names (from localhost and localdomain).
> Without a second thought, I logged out the system.  It refuses
> to boot anymore (just hangs there after certain point).
> Reason: Cannot find the local host name!
> 
>     My question is: Is there a way that I can boot the system
> without lose the data (there are a lot).

Someone said how to get in with single-user mode. And rescue
floppies of course.

But you probably just need to wait a few minutes after booting.
Some damn thing (like sendmail) will probably time out after
waiting a limited time for the Domain Name System to work.
I just disabled the sendmail daemon. Most home users
don't need it running; it works OK when used as needed.
Or fix your DNS.  DejaNews could be a help here.

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 25 Jan 1999 23:22:33 +0100

"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Because once the criminally insane programmers 'fix' the open source
> code they want to then distribute the 'fixed' version to others,
> viruses and all.
> 
> Thank God really valueable source code is not available to the public.

We have had people trying to sneak in Trojans in Linux software, yes.
Those attempts are much more conspicuous than putting the equivalent
into binary releases.

Just compare the number of known viruses and Trojans under Windows
operating systems and typical Linux systems.  By the way, Windows
looks and behaves a lot like it was written by criminally insane
programmers.


-- 
David Kastrup                                     Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]       Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: Changed Lilo boot options, now Win98 won't boot
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:12:22 GMT

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:54:15 -0500, David J. DeFrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|I tried to edit Lilo options from
|Linxconf.  I was booting Linux strictly from a boot disk,
|and wanted to be able to boot without a disk from the Lilo
|prompt, with Win98 being the default.  After setting this up
|(I thought) on Linxconf, I am unable to boot Win 98, while
|Linux works fine.  Within Linux, I cannot mount my C: drive
|either, which I could do before.  I get the message "wrong fs type, bad
|option,
|bad superblock on /dev/hda1 (which is my C: drive).  I cannot
|boot Windows from a startup disk, either.  At a DOS prompt,
|I can see C: and it's contents, however.  I must have hosed some
|boot record, or something.  I'm lost.  TIA.


Can you post hte contents of yur /etc/lilo.conf file ?

You have probably made a typo which somebody will be able to spot.

If you include /etc/fstab as well, we may have some suggestions for
your problem mounting your C: drive under Linux.


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun,     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church    http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
            a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: Linux instead of Windows - just one problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:12:21 GMT

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:54:05 +0000, Ben Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|I'm running an all-Linux shop here.  There's someone (the boss) who
|wants one machine for himself just to do data entry in Excel.  I'm sure
|if I sat him down at a Linux box with Star Office and told him it's just
|like Windows, he'd be fine.  That is, until I told him that he needs to
|type mount /mnt/floppy before he uses his floppy disk, and umount
|/mnt/floppy afterwards.  Is there any simple way to have the floppy
|drive automatically mounted and umounted, without running development
|kernels or hacking at it for 3 days and 3 nights?  I'm running RedHat
|5.1, standard install out of the box.


There are 2 options:

1/ Use the mtools to access the floppy ( mdir a:, mcopy, etc... )

2/ Configure the automounter. You only need to setup 2 files. I've never
understood why RedHat ( or SUSE, etc ) don't do this for you
during installation.

/etc/auto.master contains the list of directories that the automounter will
watch, and he name of the file that contains information for that directory.

/etc/auto.mnt ( or whatever you want to call it ) contains the mount
information for each of the devices you want to mount.

I have put my devices under /mnt ( you don't need to create anything under
/mnt, the automounter does it all ).

Here is mu /etc/aouto.master:

# $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $
# Sample auto.master file
# Format of this file:
# mountpoint map options
# For details of the format look at autofs(8).
/mnt    /etc/auto.mnt   --timeout 15


and my /etc/auto.mnt

# This is an automounter map and it has the following format
# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location
# Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage

cdrom           -fstype=iso9660,ro      :/dev/cdrom
cdrw            -fstype=iso9660,ro      :/dev/cdrw
jaz             -fstype=ext2            :/dev/sda1
floppy          -fstype=ext2            :/dev/fd0
floppy-ro       -fstype=ext2,ro         :/dev/fd0
A               -fstype=vfat,umask=000,uid=500,gid=500,conv=auto,quiet  :/dev/fd0


I can just insert a cdrom, and go 'cd /mnt/cdrom' or 'ls /mnt/cdrom'
and it works.

If I don't use the cdrom for 15 seconds ( the timeout value )
it is unmounted and I can eject it. Note that 'cd'ing to a
directory on the cdrom counts as using it, even if you arn't
actually doing anything. You have to 'cd' to somewhere else to
stop using it.

Also note that the same device can have different names that are
associated with different options, just to make things easier.


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun,     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church    http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
            a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Start of Discussion Linux vers NT
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:23:01 GMT

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:52:39 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias
Warkus) wrote:

>What a wonderful idea. I haven't seen any so far. :->

Feeling a bit droll today are we?  <g>  -steve
========================================================
so what?  -  http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:22:55 GMT

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On 24 Jan 1999 18:22:23 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve
Lamb) wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:03:12 GMT, steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>geometry; usually with fdisk I just set it to what it needs to be and
>>get on with things, but Debian was using cfdisk, and I saw nothing to
>>indicate how to redefine drive geometry.  
>
>    It also has fdisk available.

It certainly wasn't offered in any menu that I saw during installation
on a totally green system.  Was I supposed to suck the man pages out
of my thumb to find this out, then know to ALT-F2 and log in as root
with some unknown password in order to get to fdisk?  It was
definitely not obvious.  I didn't say it was impossible.

>    Uhm, no.  Part of the menuing options is a set where you can decide what
>to do next.  This includes going all the way back to the beginning or, in
>your case, 1-2 steps back.

Comment does not match objective reality, sorry.  True in part of the
install, not in others.

Not a big deal, I have nothing against Debian.  I've just found SuSE
to be easier to get up and running.  Means nothing more than if you
found an automatic transmission more convenient than a stickshift.
All systems can be a pain in the rear to install, or not; and all
systems can be a pain in the rear to maintain, or not.  Won't increase
your lifespan a second.  Rather than worry about it, I'd recommend
using whatever you have running to write some code<g>  -steve
========================================================
so what?  -  http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: Jesse Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screwy printer woes
Date: 25 Jan 1999 15:37:28 -0500

Hey ho.

I recently installed a NIC and recompiled my kernel, and my printer
hasn't worked since.  Any help would be appreciated.

After installing the card and the new kernel, when I cat something to
/dev/lp0 (which IS the proper address), I get a printer out of paper
error in /var/log/messages.  I even tried installing the old kernel
and seeing if that worked, but the same thing happens, so it doesn't
appear to be a kernel error.

The interrupt for the NIC is supposed to be 10, and that of the
printer 7, I think, so there shouldn't be conflicts.  Besides, I
removed both the NIC and the soundcard and tested things and still had
the same problem.

Curiously, when I reboot the machine, the printer acts like it just
received something to print (it partially feeds the paper, but nothing
is actually printed).

/proc/interrupts doesn't list the printer.  Should it?  I don't know
diddly about this stuff.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please send a courtesy copy,
since this newsgroup is hard to follow on my nntp server.

-- 
Jesse Hughes                                               [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jesse/jesse.html

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From: Zhihui Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP:How to set up Canon MultiPass C5000 printer under RH5.1?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:43:49 -0500


I can't print PS files under RH5.1. Does anyone has the same printer
working under RH5.1?
                          Thanks in Advance!

--
Zhihui Zhao
Dept. of Math.
Wayne State Univ.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:06:37 +0000

* Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| So why does all the above make Times on a 300DPI-printer to gross to
| be legible, while making it ok at 600DPI and great at 900DPI?

  because at 300DPI the disproportionally thick serifs reduce legibility,
  but they are "thin enough" at 600DPI and get right about 900DPI.  I
  thought I had already explained this.

#:Erik
-- 
  SIGTHTBABW: a signal sent from Unix to its programmers at random
  intervals to make them remember that There Has To Be A Better Way.

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From: "Justin Ryan [PHT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changed Lilo boot options, now Win98 won't boot
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:58:41 -0600

on your dos boot disk, run fdisk /mbr, that'll make you be able to boot
windows again, course you won't be able to use lilo off your hdd b/c that
will kill it but until you get that worked out, fdisk /mbr will fix your
windows booting problem, or it should..
-Justin

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Internet/Developer Relations Associate
Pacific HiTech / TurboLinux
http://www.turbolinux.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
David J. DeFrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I tried to edit Lilo options from
> Linxconf.  I was booting Linux strictly from a boot disk,
> and wanted to be able to boot without a disk from the Lilo
> prompt, with Win98 being the default.  After setting this up
> (I thought) on Linxconf, I am unable to boot Win 98, while
> Linux works fine.  Within Linux, I cannot mount my C: drive
> either, which I could do before.  I get the message "wrong fs type, bad
> option,
> bad superblock on /dev/hda1 (which is my C: drive).  I cannot
> boot Windows from a startup disk, either.  At a DOS prompt,
> I can see C: and it's contents, however.  I must have hosed some
> boot record, or something.  I'm lost.  TIA.
>
>
>



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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.0-pre9 and kerneld
Date: 26 Jan 1999 02:08:54 GMT

Jay Bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Now Kernel Configurator (kerneld) will not run do to the fact that it cant
: find the "module-info" file for 2.2 in the /boot dir.
: It works when I boot into 2.0.36.  That version of module-info is there.

: How do I make a new module-info file for  2.2?

2.2 kernels do not use kerneld, instead the use kmod.  


-- 
           Dan Nguyen            | There is only one happiness in
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]         |   life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 |                   -George Sand


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis Newton)
Subject: Re: Zip disk
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:49:30 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark Robinson wrote:
>> 
>> Which Zip Disk interface should I get IDE,paralell(sp?) or SCSI?  Which
>> will work with Linux?
>
>The SCSI is faster and more expensive.  If you don't already have a SCSI
>card that could cost you more than $60, even for a cheap NRC53c810 card
>from SW.COM,  (I'm not sure that card would work for a SCSI Zipdrv
>interface) otherwise figure three times that cost.  Then, there is the
>matter of the SCSI cable and terminator: about $40 each.  So, a minimum
>of $150 plus the cost of the ZIP drive to go SCSI.
>

The SCSI Insider comes with the Adaptec 152x card...I think the total
price is the same as the parallel port version...at least it was when
I got mine.

However, I believe it is much easier to get the parallel port working
than it is for the SCSI Zip Zoom version with Zip drive.



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From: Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 26 Jan 1999 02:05:04 GMT

John Doe wrote:
> 
> I think that the OEMs should rebel and refuse to pay the high prices and
> start bundling BeOS and Linux as the default OS's for a year or 2 and
> make people have to install Windows as a second OS from off the shelf.
> Let's see how many people flock to it because it is the "superior"
> choice. Only idiots like scott nudds would. People like him would get a
> second morgage so that they could try to increase microsoft's
> marketshare again after it would plumit

This brings up an interesting question to me. We hear many "people"
complain that the average user couldn't install linux. It's also my
experience that the average person can't install windows. I think if
people were given a pre-installed Linux system relatively tuned to their
system (no need to do the tiny fine-tuning that only a "power-user"
would need) and a basic manual describing beginner commands (things like
ls, mount, cd, etc) most people would be able to get by as well as they
do in windoze.

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From: Daniel McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:07:57 GMT

Ken wrote:
 
>  I can get my Linux box to lock up fairly regularly when running
> Mathematica. I want to try it on FreeBSD to see if I have the same
> problem.

I have never used Mathematica.  What is it?

Oh, a have noticed linux's stability can vary from computer to
computer.  It never crashes on me, but for other people it can be as bad
as microsoft.  I hear the old Adaptec drivers are buggy enough to bring
the system down from time to time.
 
> >  I like FreeBSD's /stand/sysinstall program, but I also like
> > Debian's dselect program.  I think Linux is better suited for
> > the desktop while FreeBSD is a server.
> 
>  I'm partial to SuSE's yast myself. As for FreeBSD vs Linux, I like
> them both and I'm very thankful I have a choice. I might have to try
> NetBSD next.

I have never tried Yast.  I avoid comercial products as I don't have any
money. :)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 24 Jan 1999 20:02:00 GMT

In <e$dtm$7R#GA.229@upnetnews03> "Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Maybe this would be a good way to find enough programmers to fix the Y2K
>problems in Linux.

I guess it would. Since none are needed, and this would attract none,
the figures match perfectly.




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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't save bookmarks
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:51:23 +0000

It's probably because of ungraceful exits made by netscape where files
weren't fully written out.  A couple of times I've had problems with
files, and doing an strace revealed that netscape was stalling over the
stupidest little things. It has very little error recovery built in.

Seth

Jim liedeka wrote:
> 
> I managed to fix the problem by deleting everything in my .netscape directory
> and starting over.  There must have been something in a configuration file that
> pointed to the root directory which my user account doesn't have privileges on.
> 
> This gives rise to a new philosophy, if it breaks, lobotomize it.
> 
>     Jim
> 
> bserg wrote:
> 
> > I had the same problem with that version of netscape and the only thing that
> > fixed it was switching to netscape 4.08.
> >
> > Jim liedeka wrote:
> >
> > > I am having a problem with Netscape 4.5.  I recently began running my
> > > PPP sessions from my user account (I was previously using root) on my RH
> > > 5.2 box.  I copied all the ~/.netscape files to my home directory,
> > > changed ownership, and burned the cache files.
> > >
> > > Whenever I start up Netscape, after loading my home page and checking
> > > mail, I get a window that says "Error saving bookmarks file" (or
> > > something like that).  This sounds like a permissions issue or a
> > > corrupted file.  However, I renamed my existing file so Netscape
> > > wouldn't find it when I started it up.  I still get the same error.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >     Jim Liedeka

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Zip disk
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:41:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Which Zip Disk interface should I get IDE,paralell(sp?) or SCSI?  Which
> > will work with Linux?
>
> The SCSI is faster and more expensive.  If you don't already have a SCSI
> card that could cost you more than $60, even for a cheap NRC53c810 card
> from SW.COM,  (I'm not sure that card would work for a SCSI Zipdrv
> interface) otherwise figure three times that cost.  Then, there is the
> matter of the SCSI cable and terminator: about $40 each.  So, a minimum
> of $150 plus the cost of the ZIP drive to go SCSI.
>


Hold on.....the SCSI Zip Zoom card (an adaptec 152x)is included
with the Zip SCSI drive....total runs around $119-$149, depending
on where you get it.


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From: Jim Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:15:59 -0500

> There are no Y2K problems in Linux (Y2038 probs yes, but that is
> another story...)

Yea but we've worked through that on other UNIXen by expanding time_t to a
64-bit int.  Problem solved for a couple gazillion years.

jim

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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question about netcfg
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:01:41 -0600

Hi, I have a quick question.  I am using netcfg to make my connection to
the internet.  Using the internet works fine, I just click on the ppp
interface I made and click 'activate' there is one thing that bugs me
though.  When I disconnect from my service provider, I find that the
hostname of my machine has been changed.  I would prefer to just leave
it at localhost all the time, but something about the connection is
changing the name of my machine. Any suggestions?

-Eric


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: Linux defrag?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:33:33 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Kelly wrote:
>after a while you definitely see improvement from running defrag.  When my
>ext2 partitions starting reporting 8% and higher fragmentation in fsck I got

I've had larger numbers on some of my partitions from fsck, but I only have
run defrag once, and that was a long time ago. I think you see "improvement"
in the sense that typically you will have lower fragmentation percentages
after running defrag. However, I don't think in practice that you can
"feel" that the system needs to be defragmented like you can under
FAT-based systems.

Also, I've found that the fragmentation percentage depends a bit on
how the data got put on there in the first place, and whether you
happen to have any largish files (fragmentation seems to be overstated
with respect to those) on your system. For instance, I have some >10 meg
files on one of my partitions and this partition has always been
reported to have a higher-than-normal fragmentation percentage (some-
times as high as ten percent!). But I can do whatever I want reading/writing
stuff on that partition, and the fragmentation percentage won't go up, again
unlike DOS.


>Mike


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