Linux-Misc Digest #789, Volume #18 Wed, 27 Jan 99 21:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(NF Stevens)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (NF Stevens)
Re: How to Screw up your system. (Sam Vere)
Re: Help, Kernel too big (root)
Re: How to copy buttsniff (Shaygetz)
Re: Loading onto SPARCS ("Chenard, Sylvain [CAR:VS13:EXCH]")
Anyone using X on NEC 4DS? (Kyle Tucker)
Wall St. Journal Article Today (Dennis)
Re: Linux - Where To Start??? (autodata)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (David Kastrup)
Re: Looking for software on the Net (Vladimir Vuksan)
Re: Help, Kernel too big (Villy Kruse)
Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10 (Bill Unruh)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (pdohert)
Re: linux max RAM is 1GB? ("Richard Payne")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Jay D Ribak")
Re: [Q] PC Card Hard Drives for Linux? (Charlie Stross)
Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x? (Gopal Harikumar)
Re: rpm for 2.2.0? (Kaustav Bhattacharya)
Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me (Kaustav Bhattacharya)
Newbie Question about Libraries (RedHat) (Peter Larkin)
ssh compile problem (Dave Phillips)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. ("Keith G. Murphy")
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:56:14 -0800
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>>>>> "Paul" == pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul> Michael Powe wrote:
>> Doh! Computers were invented in England. Get it? If you
>> don't, get a library card and do some reading. You <can> read
>> something more complicated than a newsgroup, can't you?
Paul> Who invented the transistor, IC and microprocessor on which
Paul> the first computers were built? Without those technologies
Paul> the chop-shopping you're referring to (which is no more than
Paul> Dell or Gateway does now) is hardly an accomplishment. The
Paul> *ability* to build a computer came from the technologies
Paul> developed over here, and unless you are demonstrating prrof
Paul> otherwise my statement stands.
Your "statement" fell over sideways. Your original claim was that
computers were invented in the United States. Since that was
demonstrably false, you've now changed your argument to be that the
tools that enabled computers to be built were invented in the
United States.
Ironically, it was the Japanese that demonstrated that transistor
technology could be used reliably and inexpensively in consumer
products. American engineers said it couldn't be done.
Perhaps, if you weren't so engrossed in puffing out your chest, some
oxygen would get to your brain and you'd realize how silly your "we're
the greatest nation on earth" pontifications look in an international
forum. Hmm, a side-effect of thinking might be that you'd notice
you're not using a "made in USA" operating system. Quick, where's
that Windows CD?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:36:42 GMT
djbaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Similar story here............
>Mine involves supporting vendors, localisation and tech support vendors. A lot of
>them use FTP to send builds and localised apps to our servers and many have extreme
>difficuly even understanding the directory structure of the FTP server. Some don't
>want to use the most common FTP clients as they find them too 'difficult to use'.
>Most of my time at work is spent trouble shooting connection problems and trying to
>simplify issues for idiot users when I should be concentrating on other important
>stuff.
>
>If the majority of users I encounter have difficulty using win95. What would they be
>like using Linux. For Linux to succeed in a desktop environment it would need to be
>simplified for Joe Soap users.
If the users were running any form of unix you could give them a
script which would control the ftp session from start to finish. I'd
probably use expect, but there are others available. You could
program the script to make intelligent decisions based on file
names or extensions or even check strings within the files to
be uploaded. The uses would never have to know anything
about your directory structure; all they'd have to know is
the name of the script.
A flashy gui front end may be great for surfing an unknown
site but for regular tasks which can be automated command
line unix wins hands down.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:36:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) wrote:
>On 24 Jan 1999 17:43:32 GMT,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>eloquently scribe:
>>:> Oh yeah, well when I started college, we had to punch the
>>:> cards with flint knives & rocks...;)
>>
>>: Oh, you had knives and rocks? When I was young, we had to use our
>>: teeth.
>>
>>Punch Cards?
>>Luxury. When I were a lad, we 'ad to enter the code in binary by manually
>>manipulating the edge connector with a piece of wire.
>
>Wire? Luxury! We had to push around little stones in the dirt!
You had stones, _and_ dirt to push them around in. Bah, the
youth of today.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Subject: Re: How to Screw up your system.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:41:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:28:38 +1300, Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>1) compile a new kernel,
>2) rename the old kernel,
>2) delete two "superfluous" kernels in /, removing the saved old kernel
>by mistake,
>3) copy the new kernel to /,
>4) reboot WITHOUT running LILO.
>
>After a moment of panic, hard thought, I rummaged around, found an
>old boot disk from an early install (what happened to the "rescue disk"
>I made?).
>
>Booted the boot disk, mounted the hard disk at boot prompt, got the
>system back, (CHEER!), run LILO, cross fingers and reboot, system
>comes back up (CHEER AGAIN!)
I had a similar experience once - fortunately I currently use SuSE
5.3, so I booted from CD and fixed it...
Now since when has the Win95 CD been bootable?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Date: 27 Jan 1999 13:45:23 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. wrote:
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>In article <a3cr2.346$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wael Sedky wrote:
>>>/usr/src/linux/arch/YOUR_ARCHETECTURE/boot/zimage
>>
>>
>>I follow the book blindly:
>>
>>cd /usr/include
>>rm -rf linux
>>ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
>>rm -rf asm
>>ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
>>
>>cd /usr/src/linux
>>make mrproper
>>
>>make config or make menuconfig
>>.......
>>.....
>>.......
>>make dep
>>make clean
>>make zImage
>>mv vmlinux /
>^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Here is your problem. Replace this step with :
>mv arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
>
>That is the compressed kernel.
>
Or you could just do:
make dep clean zImage modules modules_install install
that exact commandline works for me....
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From: Shaygetz <"s m c q u a l e"@i x.n e t c o m.c o m>
Subject: Re: How to copy buttsniff
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:06:42 -0500
Eric Goforth wrote:
>
> [eric@localhost eric]# ls BUTTSniff-0.9.3.zip
> BUTTSniff-0.9.3.zip
Can I get that as an RPM?
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From: "Chenard, Sylvain [CAR:VS13:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Loading onto SPARCS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:51:20 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
snip...
> take. A point in the direction of some GOOD documentation
> would
> be very much appreciated! I am new to networking, and if this is the
> option
> I should take, I would need to be given a clear idea of how to
> proceed.
>
snip...
A good place to start is at: http://www.geog.ubc.ca/s_linux.html
I did install RH 5.1 on my SAPRC 10 without any problems. I installed it
from my external SCSI CDROM (BOOT and install).
I didn't managed to get PPP working on it, but I'm working on it....
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PO Box 3511, Station C
Ottawa, Ontario
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Tel. (613) 763 5289
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From: Kyle Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Anyone using X on NEC 4DS?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:15:16 -0500
I am into my 3rd week trying to get XFree86 S3 server to work
with this monitor using a Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM? If you've got
a working XF86Config file, please email it to me. I'm desperate.
Thanks.
--
- Kyle
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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wall St. Journal Article Today
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:10:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Wed. issue of the Wall Street Journal had a front page reference to
Linux (on pg. B6). The full article went on to say that Linux will be
supported by H-P and Silicon Graphics.
This is a fine tribute to both the Linux OS, and all of the people that
helped get us here. Great job!!
Dennis,
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From: autodata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux - Where To Start???
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:19:05 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul:
I would start with a visit to the Linux hardware compatability list
(www.redhat.com), then a trip to Best Buy (or your faviorite neighborhood
software store) to pick up a complete distribution. I recommend Red Hat 5.2,
but there are other excellent packages from Caldera, SuSE, Debian,
Slackware, etc.
Make sure your hardware is compliant ... that eliminates a lot of headaches.
Then stock up on coffee/beer/Jack Daniels/your favorite beverage, and READ
THE FINE MANUAL!
I would also pick up two books:
Harley Hahn's "Student Guide to Unix"
Bill Ball's "Using Linux"
Both are available from B&N, Amazon.com, etc.
Use the Linux community for support. Postings in the news groups usually get
usable answers/suggestions, and there are scads of web sites that can
provide the help you need.
There is a learning curve with Linux, but it can be fun, and certainly is
educational.
Gerald Jensen
Paul Bunchuk wrote:
> I m totally new to Linux my experience is with Windows and NT. Where to I
> start? I want to install Linux and start learning it. In particular I am
> looking for a list of fies to dwnld for the OS and where to get them.
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Paul Bunchuk
> Ft. Lauderdale, Fl
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 01:55:42 +0100
David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree. If someone put time into developing a linux distribution
> designed for OEMs to tune to specific hardware setups, and then was
> preinstalled on a computer, it would be just the same as windows.
Yes somebody better should do that. Perhaps something that looks like
the kickstart installation options of RedHat Linux or S.u.S.E Linux.
If anybody were to develop a Linux distribution that would offer
something like those two Windows vendors do, Linux would be off to a
raging success.
As it is, we have to just grit the teeth and wait. And suffer
computers like the Cobalt Qube and the Corel Netwinder to come
preinstalled only with Windows.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vladimir Vuksan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Looking for software on the Net
Date: 28 Jan 1999 01:19:12 GMT
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:21:02 -0800, Stuart Updegrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:Where are some good places on the Internet to find software for Linux
>:and its RPM, free or not? This can be a directory of places too.
>
>ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux
Check out LinuxBerg (Tucows Linux archive)
http://www.linuxberg.com/
Vladimir
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Date: 27 Jan 1999 10:26:53 +0100
In article <M4cr2.347$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wael Sedky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*> wrote:
>No unfortunately it didn't make the file a bit smaller.
>
>Iam using a PPro on a supermicro motherboard with 32MB and 1GB partition
>
>>Try make bzImage.
>
>
>
It won't make the kernel smaller, but it changes som details regarding the
loading process so the size limitation goes away.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.protocols.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10
Date: 28 Jan 1999 01:22:48 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> James Carlson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>That means that your syslogd is misconfigured. You'll need to send
>*.debug to the file.
pppd reports on the daemon log and various loglevels.
daemon.* /var/log/messages
should already be in your syslog.conf. In fact the messages he is gettin
show that it is there.
>The problem here is most likely in the chat portion, not in PPP. Run
>chat with the "-v" flag to get debug messages in syslog.
ALSO put the line
local2:* /var/log/messages
into /etc/syslog.conf.
It is a well hidden secret that chat uses the local2 logging . (The only
place I found it was in the source code.)
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From: pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:33:46 -0600
Michael Powe wrote:
> Doh! Computers were invented in England. Get it? If you don't, get
> a library card and do some reading. You <can> read something more
> complicated than a newsgroup, can't you?
Who invented the transistor, IC and microprocessor on which the first
computers were built? Without those technologies the chop-shopping
you're referring to (which is no more than Dell or Gateway does now) is
hardly an accomplishment. The *ability* to build a computer came from
the technologies developed over here, and unless you are demonstrating
prrof otherwise my statement stands.
--
Paul Doherty
Systems Analyst/Programmer
http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
Home of PC DiskMaster
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From: "Richard Payne" <payner at timken dot com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux max RAM is 1GB?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:55:22 -0500
It's a problem with the Intel processors. There is a patch around that
will let you address up to 2Gig of memory (but only 2 Gig on swap I think).
You may want to look through some of the kernel archives, or search
www.dejanews.com. I know the URL for the patch was posted in one
of these groups but I didn't save it.
The other option would be to use a non x86 CPU like Alpha, Sparc
etc....
--
Rich Payne
(Speaking for myself, not my employer)
payner at timken dot com
Looking for Alpha-Linux info?
http://www.alphalinux.org
Mark Ramos wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am trying to bring Linux into our environment at work along side some
>Sun Ultra's and Enterprise systems but I became disappointed to hear
>that Linux only supports up to 1GB of RAM? That is unfortunate when
>Linux is trying to penetrate the enterprise server market and can't keep
>up with the big guys? I am not putting Linux down as I am a very big
>Linux advocate but if I am to compare linux head-to-head with other UNIX
>servers then what am I supposed to say? Even the Sun Ultra-2's support
>up to 2GB RAM and that is limited by hardware in the small footprint
>case. We have Enterprise 4000 systems that have 8GB of RAM. And I know
>that isn't the limit in Solaris. The systems we are ordering are dual
>Xeon 450's in an Intel MS440GX motherboard. I know the board can handle
>2GB too. Is there a reason why it can't > 1GB and does anyone know of
>future support?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark Ramos
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: "Jay D Ribak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:45:02 -0500
Don't forget the transistor which was taken from the space ship that crashed
in Roswell, New Mexico, USA and transferred to Bell Labs in Holmdell, New
Jersey, USA, who conveniently 'discovered' it 2 years later. (A discovery
which has never ever been reproduced anywhere). Whether you believe the
X-files-esque alien conspiracy theory, or the Bell Labs discovery theory,
the transistor still originated in the US of A, and without that, where
would we be now?
eagle95 wrote in message <78leca$ohn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>i'd say both sides need to read the history books.
> the advances came out of military and university groups, regardless of
>nationall boundaries, which is the POINT...but for the record..don't forget
>the U.S. army in the 40's or 50's or 60's or.. (ala eniac, mainframes,
>arpanet, tcp/ip,...) or the AI lab at MIT( ala hacking, basic, bill
>gates,...), the san fransisco bay hardware hackers of the 70's( ala the
>"pc", ....) should i go on?
>'nuff said.
>
>
>pdohert wrote:
>
>> Michael Powe wrote:
>> > Hard to see where you got the idea that "the US has pretty much
>> > initiated the whole thing." The modern "computer revolution" started
>> > in Britain. Americans are too self-congratulatory for my taste. They
>> > seem to forget a few major technological facts, like they got hosed in
>> > automotive technology and manufacturing technologies and had to play
>> > catchup in electronic technologies. Isn't anybody here old enough to
>> > remember that American businessmen thought transistors would be of no
>> > serious commercial value? American businessmen are noted around the
>> > world for their inability to see beyond next quarter's earnings
>> > chart.
>>
>> What does the vision (or lack thereof) of businessmen in forecasting the
>> usefulness or competetive edge of new technology have to do with the
>> point that the technology was *created* here?
>>
>> Makes it pretty easy to see where the "US has pretty much initiated the
>> whole thing" comes from... :-)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Paul Doherty
>> Systems Analyst/Programmer
>> http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
>> Home of PC DiskMaster
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Stross)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: [Q] PC Card Hard Drives for Linux?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:47:17 GMT
Reply-To: charlie @ nospam . antipope . org
Stoned koala bears drooled eucalyptus spittle in awe
as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declared:
>Is there any PCMCIA type hard drive that supports Linux out there? My
>laptop is running out of its 1.4GB internal IDE hard drive. Thanks for any
>tips.
Yup -- PCMCIA hard disks work fine in most laptops. You should ensure the
PCMCIA drivers are installed -- see sunsite.unc.edu for the pcmcia kit if
you don't already have it.
Note, however, that removable PCMCIA hard disks are _expensive_. I've got
one (a 240Mb unit) and they are, new, literally worth their weight in gold.
It's a lot cheaper to just buy a new 2.5" internal IDE drive to replace your
existing one.
-- Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gopal Harikumar)
Subject: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x?
Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:41:32 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I downloaded, complied and installed v 2.2 yesterday. The compilation
went without a hitch and the kernel booted up correctly. Everything is
working perfectly. But I notice that the kernel size has increased by
a considerable amount compared to 2.0.x, compiled with exactly the
same features.
Size of /vmlinuz for 2.0.33 on my system: ~325 kB.
Size of /vmlinuz for 2.2.0 with same features: ~450 kB.
Is this normal? Thanks for any help.
Hari.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gopal Harikumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rpm for 2.2.0?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:46:02 +0000
Reply-To: k, dot, bhattacharya, at, bbc, dot, co, dot, uk
if there is, gemme gemme gemme :)
"Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there is already an rpm for the 2.2.0 kernel source,
> headers, etc.!?
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From: Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:45:32 +0000
Reply-To: k, dot, bhattacharya, at, bbc, dot, co, dot, uk
route del default
route add default gw 195.223.189.119
This is what I have to do, and I also had exactly the same problem as
you are experiencing. By typing the above it all suddenly started to
work! Magic! :)
Giovanni Chierico wrote:
>
> Hi everybody, I've been trying to set up a PPP connection,
> but it doesn't work.
>
> I think I read all the documentation I found 10 times and nothing seems
> to work, so if you can help me, I'd really appreciate it.
>
[snip-o-rama]
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From: Peter Larkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie Question about Libraries (RedHat)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:40:33 +0000
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Hiya,
Yes another newbie to the mix
Question is
I have RedHat5.2. I understand that it is a glibc based version of
Linux. Now me not being a programer, I was curious what that means to
me. I have seen that there are different versions of programs depending
on glibc or others. I though Linux was all based on the same code?
Anyone explain
Next Question
When I download things, be they programs or windows environments, they
all need a bunch or supporting libraries. I understand that. DLL's are
the bain of Windows as well.
My question is, is there a list of all the libraries out there? What
the latest versions are of each? If I load a library of something on my
machine, and I already have it, will it overwrite what is already there,
or will I get conflicts by having different version? I am really
confused about what I need. I tried looking in Glint, but I find it
very difficult to sort through all those folders, since I don't know
where I should be looking.
Any help, thanks
pete
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From: Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh compile problem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:52:41 -0500
Greetings:
I'm trying to compile ssh 2.0.11 under GCC 2.7.2 and kernel 2.0.36.
Here's where it fails on me:
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I. -I.. -I./.. -I../.. -I../..
-I../sshmath -I./../sshmath -I../zlib -I./../zlib -I../trq -I./../trq
-g -Wall -c sshunixtcp.c
make[3]: *** [sshunixtcp.o] Interrupt
from /usr/include/netinet/ip_tcp.h:1,
from /usr/include/netinet/ip_tcp.h:1,
from /usr/include/netinet/ip_tcp.h:1,
[snip a gazillion more of this line]
from /usr/include/netinet/ip_tcp.h:1,
from /usr/include/netinet/tcp.h:1,
from sshunixtcp.c:38:
/usr/include/netinet/ip_tcp.h:1: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
make[3]: *** [sshunixtcp.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/tmp/ssh-2.0.11/lib/sshutil'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tmp/ssh-2.0.11/lib'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tmp/ssh-2.0.11'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
tcp.h is linked to ip_tcp.h which contains one line:
#include <netinet/ip_tcp.h>
I need to build ssh as soon as possible. Can anyone tell me how to do it
with my current compiler ? Vast thanks in advance !
== Dave Phillips
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/index.html
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_soundapps.html
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:08:48 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy Mulhearn wrote:
>
[cut]
> >
> >The funny thing is that graphical systems have become even harder to use than
> >CLI systems in recent years -- there are just so many gestures you have to
> >learn to get things done, and no way to discover them without a manual, and
> >nobody ships manuals any more.
> >
>
> This is an interesting comment and one with which I can't help but agree. I
> had to show one of the project managers where I work how to create entries
> in a Notes Discussion database. This is clearly not rocket science and
> Notes is not hard to use but an otherwise competent and intelligent PM had
> to be shown how to do it.
>
Apparently Notes is exceptionally bad. Look at
http://www.iarchitect.com/lotus.htm.
When I see Microsoft's latest offerings, I truly believe that we have
entered the Baroque Era of Interface Design.
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