Linux-Misc Digest #789, Volume #23 Wed, 8 Mar 00 17:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: ZIP + SCSI Please HELP ME!!! (Andrew Quong)
Re: Salary? (Brian Johnson)
Re: tuning squid (Anthony)
Re: Do you hate vi? ("Brian")
Re: What to do if you forget the root password (Vilmos Soti)
Re: help .. linux booting ("Siegenthaler")
Re: Salary? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: netscape 4.72 also crashes (Paul Seelig)
CHROOT for normal FTP USERS ("Kendal Montgomery")
Re: Is there an easy way to get news group offline? (Ruediger)
Re: What is a Zombie process? (Kenny McCormack)
Re: mounting ext2 in windows explorer (Matt McClure)
Re: Salary? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Salary? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Salary? (Matthias Warkus)
command line editing of BMP files (Eli the Bearded)
Re: CHROOT for normal FTP USERS (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: How to add SCSI controller/DAT drive (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Linux for Begginers Book Recomendation (Rod Smith)
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (Uwe Malzahn)
Re: CHROOT for normal FTP USERS ("Kendal Montgomery")
Re: Testing for Winmodems (Rod Smith)
Netscape 4.72 bus error...YIPEE! (Patrick O'Neil)
hp printer install trouble (Leo C. Wondrash)
my login prompt ran away... (Josh Nichols)
Re: Linux and the future of the world (Raymond Doetjes)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Quong)
Subject: Re: ZIP + SCSI Please HELP ME!!!
Date: 8 Mar 2000 18:52:01 GMT
On my system with a scsi hard drive and a zip 250 parallel drive.
After running insmod imm, I find my zip at /dev/sdc4 which
it tells me....
I have redhat 6.0 on an alpha box.
Good luck.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Emanuele Parati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello again.
>
>Probably you are right, David.
>In fact before the installation of the SCSI controller, the ZIP was
>/dev/sda4.
>Probably now it is a different device. But What?
>Is there a way to see at what device is attached the ZIP?
>
>For example cdrecord says me that ZIP is dev=1,6,0.
>
>Thanks a lot,
>
>Emanuele
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From: Brian Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:02:32 GMT
"Mr. Rupert" wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > As for salaries, they aren't necessarily
> > lower, if they're lower, that's usually compensated by a much lower
> > number of workhours per week and per lifetime.
> >
>
> The reduced number of workhours is strangling your country.
>
or perhaps the larger number of workhours is strangling our country? :) I'm just
starting my career, so don't have the chance at this point, but in the future if I
can afford to do so, I will definatly choose a shorter workweek instead of a
bigger check.. what good's the check if your working all the time and can't
enjoy it?
-Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Subject: Re: tuning squid
Date: 8 Mar 2000 19:21:08 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have dual pentium II 233 Mhz (Intel lx440)
>128 MB Ram
>3 Gb for cache dir
>Linux red hat 6.1
>SQUID 2.2 STABLE4
>Could you help me to configure squid.conf for best performace?
>I�m using it like proxy (not accelerator)
Your config looks ok, there aint too much information
on the web about tuning squid performance. The key issues
are squid usage of memory and disk performance. If this is
a dedicated server for a small network it looks ok to me.
For personal use then 3G is way overkill but for a network
about hundred people 3G is enough. The docs mention that
a cache dir over 4G is not going to give much more...
Try ReiserFS, this new journal file system use a very fast
balance tree algorithm which suppose to do 30% faster I/O
with things like large number of small to medium size objects
like webcache, databases, news server...etc.
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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:29:34 -0800
You are all correct.
The correct command is;
<ctrl>z
I know it so well I could do it in my sleep BUT when typing the command for
the posting above, I was suddenly overcome by a paralyzing fear of the
letter "c" and in a fit of passive submission I transcribed the command
incorrectly.
I am feeling much better now.
Best regards all;
Brian
Brian wrote in message ...
>Hi Phil:
>
>RST wrote in message ...
>>Phil Launchbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>wimps, allo'ya.
>
>>C:\> type CON > file.txt
>
>You forgot:
>
><alt>z
>
>To end console to file job.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Brian
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: What to do if you forget the root password
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:42:41 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> This doesn't work for all distros--SuSE *ALWAYS* asks for the root
> password when entering single-user mode. If RedHat doesn't do this, then
> maybe RedHat needs to rethink a few things regarding security.
While I am not familiar with SuSE, but what happens if you simply type
lilo init=/bin/sh
at the lilo prompt? Will SuSE still ask for money? Sorry, root password?
Vilmos
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From: "Siegenthaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,news.misc
Subject: Re: help .. linux booting
Date: 8 Mar 2000 19:41:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article
<8a4viq$2f2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
: hi..
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: Im sorry for causing so much trouble.
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: I've got big problem..
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: me linux booting processing~~
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: boot mode linux5 , 1 all nothing..~!
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: Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: Before you buy.
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Can anybody here help this guy/gal?
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than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence."
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:06:38 GMT
"Mr. Rupert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Seriously: The standard of living here in Germany is rather higher
> > than in the United States.
>
> In what respect is the standard of living higher in Germany than in the
> USA?
Crime. Can you safely walk in *ANY* US city after dark?
Health care. How many, people, millions, tens of millions, don't have
insurance in the US? Yes, the US has a very good (and dishonest)
health care system, but only if you can afford it.
Education. If you want to learn, then there are wonderful opportunities
in the US due to the fact that you can have access to the latest/greatest
educational tools. But the average US person (I deliberately don't write
American since it includes Canadians, Mexicans, and a lot of other nations)
is incredibly dumb. Sorry, but it is my experience after living in
Gainesville, Florida, a university city for seven years. And the problem
is that most of my experience comes from people at the University. Then
what about those who didn't attend University? I consider this is the
problem with the educational system. Whenever I see something like
a guide how to do well on, say, a multiple choice exam, I always wonder
why encourage people to find the easy way instead of the right way?
And these things were taught at school in a course...
> The reduced number of workhours is strangling your country.
I work so I can have a good living. I don't live so I can have a good
work/job/empolyment.
> Also take into account that the USA is the world leader in advanced medical
> treatment and research. The Houston Medical Center is the largest medical
> center in the world, not to mention the rest of the USA's medical centers.
And China is the world's most populous nation. Biggest doesn't always mean
better. Just consider the size of Windows and Linux...
> When the rich and powerful of this world get sick and are on
> their last prayer, they head to the Houston Medical Center.
The keyword here is the rich and powerful. Otherwise be happy to have
a hole on your ass.
Vilmos
PS. I *DO NOT* hate the US. But after living there for years, I do
see many and very serious problems. I hope she can get her acts together
because the world needs a strong and honest US.
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From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: netscape 4.72 also crashes
Date: 08 Mar 2000 19:32:10 +0100
thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> the only java i had enabled was javascript - the crash would occur only
> when closing windows.
>
Well, just turn off *all* java stuff. That's the only thing that helps.
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From: "Kendal Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CHROOT for normal FTP USERS
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:31:19 -0500
Hello..
I would like to know if anyone can tell me how to make my ftp daemon
(wu-ftp) automatically chroot to the user's home directory when they ftp in.
Such as: I have a user called scan who's home directory is /home/scan. I
would like it so that if the scan user logs in with ftp, it chroot's to
/home/scan.
If anyone can help out, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks in advance.
--
Kendal L. Montgomery
".the comPuter Wizard."
Findlay Industries, Inc.
-- Corporate IT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruediger)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Is there an easy way to get news group offline?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:14:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article Is there an easy way to get news group offline?,
Yibing Fan writes:
>
> My goal:
> To get a few news groups to my local machine so I can view them without
> dial-up every time.
>
I think you should try leafnode. It is designed for needs like yours.
There haven't anything to be configured but the newsserver you use.
Ruediger
--
Microsoft Windows(tm). A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell
to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally
coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit
company that can't stand one bit of competition. (Jargon 4.2)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: What is a Zombie process?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 14:48:13 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <88r9ha$5ag$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>: Typical GRE question.
>: If I'm not mistaken, in English "zombie" means almost dead, isn't it?
>
>No, it means "living dead". Or "reawakened dead". It's moot whether
>they're on the way down or up.
Tina Yothers?
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From: Matt McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting ext2 in windows explorer
Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:07:00 -0500
On Thu Feb 17 2000, 07:12, Rolf Magnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Do a Google search on "explore2fs".
>
> There is also another thing that really enables you to mount ext2 partitions
> as drive letters under Windows (it even has a mount command to mount the
> drives), but I don't know if it works under NT and it's not able to write to
> the partition. Unfortunately, I don't know an URL to get it from. But I have
> it at home. If someone wants it, reply by email and I'll send it to you.
Please post the URL if you have it.
--
Matt
http://www.faradic.net/~mmcclure/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:11:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 8 Mar 2000 15:49:28 GMT...
...and Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:56:30 +0100, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Same goes for banks and TV networks in Germany. I, for one, am glad
> >that my bank account is handled by an independent, non-profit
> >organisation working for the good of the public instead of some
> >turbo-capitalist global-player corporation that's busily planning the
> >next merger.
>
> We call those "Credit Unions" here in the US. And I much prefer doing
> business with one of those or a small local bank (there are a few left)
> rather than one of the mega banks.
Most small German bank customers share your opinion, and that's why
the market share of large private banks in Germany is about 20%
altogether.
mawa
--
adaptagony, n.:
the state into which any kind of modem or ISDN adaptor inevitably
falls many times a day and to which power-cycling the beast is the
only remedy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:13:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 8 Mar 2000 15:38:40 GMT...
...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >England is expensive in certain respects. So is France, BTW. But in
> >Germany, for example, computers are generally cheaper than they in the
> >U.S., indeed, we're one of the cheapest countries when it comes to
> >buying computers. I suppose England and France have similar advantages
> >in certain areas. Whether a country is expensive or cheap for Joe
> >Schmoe does not depend entirely on the country, it depends on Joe's
> >needs and tastes just as well.
> What is actually the reason for computers being cheaper in Germany?
> As far as I would hazard to guess, there aren't too many being
> manufactured here.
Extremely hard competition between the large retail chains, their
outlets being very close together. Did you witness the Escom vs. Vobis
war?
mawa
--
Yep, I've got a home page. Again. Have a look at:
<URL: http://dev.nullmodem.de/mawa/>
Now stop asking!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:12:36 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:46:29 -0500...
...and Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> <snipped as I will go compeltely OT>
>
> >
> > mawa
> > --
> > /The American Way of Life:/ Schon was sie essen und trinken, diese
> > Bleichlinge, die nicht wissen, was Wein ist, diese Vitamin-Fresser,
> > die kalten Tee trinken und Watte kauen und nicht wissen, was Brot ist,
> > dieses Coca-Cola-Volk [...] -- Faber, in: Max Frisch, _Homo_Faber_
>
> markus,
> I like your sigs. :)
> You seem to have a script that cats a different sig in every message you
> compose - how did you do that? (If you don't want to go OT here, just
> email me directly if you don't mind).
[mawa@audrey]: ~$ cat bin/do-sig
#!/bin/sh
fortune -s 90% /home/mawa/signatures 10% all >/home/mawa/.signature
[mawa@audrey]: ~$ crontab -l
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (/tmp/crontab.8386 installed on Sat Dec 4 21:34:21 1999)
# (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp
# $)
*/3 * * * * /home/mawa/bin/do-sig
* */2 * * * /home/mawa/bin/themeswitcher
That's the secret: A signature file organised as a fortune cookie
file, a one-liner shell script and a crontab entry to call it every
three minutes.
mawa
--
adaptagony, n.:
the state into which any kind of modem or ISDN adaptor inevitably
falls many times a day and to which power-cycling the beast is the
only remedy
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From: Eli the Bearded <*@qz.little-neck.ny.us>
Subject: command line editing of BMP files
Date: 8 Mar 2000 21:06:49 GMT
For a website I want to be able to have someone submit an image
and then have it processed on the server and returned to the user.
I can do this find for a bunch of formats using the PBM/PGM/PPM
tools. For BMP it seems I can convert the images to ppm fine, but
the conversion back doesn't work for 24bit images.
Does someone know of a another tool for doing this? Or have a
patch to ppmtobmp to make it like 24bit images?
Elijah
======
doesn't want to have to send the images back in a different format
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CHROOT for normal FTP USERS
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:11:51 +0100
When your user has a valid homedir entry in the /etc/passwd file, then the user
will automitcally land in their homedir.
That is a standard from wu-ftp, so be sure that the users have a homedir entry
(have rights on it) and that your wu-ftp allows ordinairy users to login (not
only allow anonymous)
Raymond
Kendal Montgomery wrote:
> Hello..
>
> I would like to know if anyone can tell me how to make my ftp daemon
> (wu-ftp) automatically chroot to the user's home directory when they ftp in.
> Such as: I have a user called scan who's home directory is /home/scan. I
> would like it so that if the scan user logs in with ftp, it chroot's to
> /home/scan.
>
> If anyone can help out, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
>
> Kendal L. Montgomery
>
> ".the comPuter Wizard."
>
> Findlay Industries, Inc.
> -- Corporate IT
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to add SCSI controller/DAT drive
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:20:24 +0100
FOr the SCSI controler just run modprobe aha1542 (it will insert the
module/driver for the daptec in the running kernel)
you can either do this via the boot.local script, per hand or in the
conf.modules file (the latter is the most need solution)
The tapestreamer is a matter of modprobe st (Scsi tapestreamer) and you
can start it just like the aha1542 via the boor.local script, manually pr
adding an entry in the conf.modules file.
than you have the programs mt and mtst to do things with your streamer.
Backing up is just a matter of making a tar and point it to the
tapestreamer device.
f.i: tar -cvf /dev/tape /home makes a nice archive to tape from the home
dir.
(I my memory serves me correct, there is also a tool stinit to initialze
a streaming device and describe it to the system).
Raymond
Abid Khan wrote:
> Red Hat Version 6.0
> I need to add a Adaptec SCSI 1542CF controller and a Seagate DAT drive
> in Red Hat Linux ver 6.0, I am new to Linux, can someone tell me the
> commands, and how to add devices and re-build the kernel.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux for Begginers Book Recomendation
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:21:31 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know Windows 98 pretty well, and recently installed linux on my system
> at home just to play around with. I really don't have a serious need for
> it, but I'd like to learn it because it is supposed to be a much better OS
> than Windows. Does anyone have a good recomendation for a book that can
> give me a good overview of the basic functions and how to use them.
I've got a number of suggestions at http://www.rodsbooks.com/books/ (check
the "Introductory books" link in particular).
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uwe Malzahn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:59:24 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would like to have 2-3 accounts active on the same computer, running X
> at the same time. I tried cntrl-alr-f2, but when I log in and start X, I
> get an error saying display 0 is using X. I tried startx --:1, and xinit
> --:1, but get the same error. Is it possble to do this.
>
I guess you made a typo. 'startx -- :1' should do the trick. Mark the
blank between '--' and ':1'! At least my machine does start a second
Xsession with this command. Given, that I do that as a different user.
Cheers
Uwe
> any and all help appreciated.
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From: "Kendal Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CHROOT for normal FTP USERS
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:24:24 -0500
Yeah, it lands there, but for a specific application i need it set for the
root.
can ya help with that?
Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> When your user has a valid homedir entry in the /etc/passwd file, then the
user
> will automitcally land in their homedir.
> That is a standard from wu-ftp, so be sure that the users have a homedir
entry
> (have rights on it) and that your wu-ftp allows ordinairy users to login
(not
> only allow anonymous)
>
> Raymond
>
> Kendal Montgomery wrote:
>
> > Hello..
> >
> > I would like to know if anyone can tell me how to make my ftp daemon
> > (wu-ftp) automatically chroot to the user's home directory when they ftp
in.
> > Such as: I have a user called scan who's home directory is /home/scan.
I
> > would like it so that if the scan user logs in with ftp, it chroot's to
> > /home/scan.
> >
> > If anyone can help out, please email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kendal L. Montgomery
> >
> > ".the comPuter Wizard."
> >
> > Findlay Industries, Inc.
> > -- Corporate IT
>
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Testing for Winmodems
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:24:48 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <8a5uch$oap$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Currently, I don't know if my modem is a Winmodem or not, or if it will
> work for Linux. I'm guessing that it won't, but I'd like to be
> certain. Is there any way to test if my modem is a Winmodem? If it
> isn't, how would I go about setting it up? Is there a modemconfig or
> something similar?
You can probably find your modem's model number from the Windows system
information tool. Of course, by itself that won't do you much good, but
it's a start. You can check http://www.linmodems.org for information on
software modem drivers for Linux. If you see your modem mentioned there,
you can follow the links for further information. If it's not listed, you
may be in luck and have a "real" modem.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.72 bus error...YIPEE!
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:27:05 -0700
Another braindead netscape. I try to send email using
my system as the mailserver, it asks for my password,
and then promptly crashes with a bus error message
when I hit enter.
Beautiful. So, does anyone know of a way around this?
I can send messages to newsgroups but if I try to enter
a password for local email...boink!
I have Mandrake 7.0, kernel 2.2.14-15, XFree86-3.3.6.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Leo C. Wondrash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hp printer install trouble
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:30:38 GMT
When I try to run a test on hp 855c I get a errow message, which I cannot
read, shows black no letters Please help
Leo
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From: Josh Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: my login prompt ran away...
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:31:04 GMT
I have an interesting problem... I restarted my linux box [RH6.1] for the
first time in awhile [almost a week] right before going to bed, and didn't
look to see if it had actually booted... so I get home from school the next
day to find that it had booted fine, but there was no login prompt! I tried
restarting, but that didn't help. The weird thing is that I can still
telnet into it. I'm not exactly sure what I did, but I haven't done
anything major except playing around with remote X sessions, but nothing
else... any suggestions?
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and the future of the world
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:32:57 +0100
Tom Steinberg wrote:
> I am currently researching for an article on the relevance of Linux's story
> to the future of economics as a whole. I am a researcher with Britain's
> oldest think tank, The Institute of Economic Affairs, so the article I am
> going to write is not going to be a Jesse Berst bit of opinionated
> self-publicity, but rather a research paper. By coming onto the big bad
> world of Usenet, I hope to get some intelligent, detailed answers to a
> variety of
> questions that I have set for myself to answer. Over the last few days I
> have been reading quite a lot of the most important articles on the growth
> of free software and opensource, but there is surprisingly little in the way
> of non-flame articles. Hence I have come here to look for help, opinions,
> links, facts, and above all, answers. Here are (some of ) the questions that
> I have set myself. If some of these sound vague, like the first one, it is
> intentionally to draw unlikely thoughts out from readers.
>
> 1) What is interesting about Linux? Why do people talk about it at all?
> It;s interesseting since it is a very open system, you have the code you can
> tweak every bit of the system yourself and it is free. The thought that
> no-one actually owns the system is also importent. FreeBSD is my other fav.
> same reasons different system.
>
>
> 2) Why has Linux achieved what it has?
What did it achieve? It was the same 5 years ago only the press made it visible
to the commercial world and so some
higly respected companies such as Digital, IBM and SGI iare writing software
for it or selling it.
>
> 3) What has Linux really achieved?
My point accectly. Linux has achieved nothing more than just being a stable
system. Ana a very nice working environment for programmers.
>
>
> 4) Where is Linux heading, realistically, in the short, medium and long
> terms?
>
Linux will be one of the most used server platforms next to NT in very very
short time. Specially now with SGI and SuSE by bringing
professional high-availibilty software to the platform. In the long term it
could be a standard development platform for developers. It will be available
in embedded apliances like a WEBTerminal or IPhone in just a while. Linux or
any Unix for that matter won't push windows
of the desktop. Most people find Windows hard to work with let alone a Unix /
Unix look a like.
>
> 5) Is Linux sustainable as a project? Is it more or less sustainable than
> non-free projects?
>
Linux and all OpenSource projects for that matter are more sustainable then
their commercial non-Open counterparts.
There will always be hackers hacking the code so that it keeps working, (mostly
just for the fun of it). Unliek commercial vendors they right of there product
with 3 to 5 years and then nada nopes support and further development.
>
> 6) Is Linux actually aiming at a level of desktop usability on par with
> Windowz? If so, when? If not, why not?
>
Linux or any Unix is still more complex for 90% of the Computer Users then
Windows. Windows is even to complex for
80% of that group. I do think however that Linux will be put on some desktops
but Windows will keep the trent for the comming 3 years.
>
> 7) Is it more than just a typical manifestation of idealism which cannot
> threaten the products of the financial incentives of the proprietory
> software world? Could Linux become the CND of the modern age, if the
> Microsoft case ever ends?
>
Certainly, people like free-stuff and if it's even better than the commercial
stuff than you catch 2 flies.
But you already see that more and more OS-vendors start giving away their OS's
for free in the hope that they can sell applications.
I bet that within 5 to 10 years all the basic OS's are free and that you pay
for services like a DNS server a HTTP server a piece of middleware to
communicate to a Database.
>
> 8) Which is better Windows or Linux? ( jk )
>
In what sense? In stability and configurabilty Linux by far!!!!
By userfriendlyness Windows unfortunatly.
>
> I look forward to seeing what you have to say about these questions. I am
> fully aware that generally, these issues have 'already been covered in
> earlier posts', but I am hoping (vainly) that setting out these questions
> again will allow people to comment with completely up to the minute
> information.
>
> When/if this paper gets published, it will be posted on the soon-to-be
> revamped IEA home page www.iea.org.uk, as well as sent to the media, MPs and
> so on.
>
> thanks very much
>
> Tom Steinberg
>
> PS you can often get me on irc on irc.barrysworld.com as Steiny.
> -------------------------------------------
> Tom Steinberg,
> Institute of Economic Affairs
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