Linux-Misc Digest #789, Volume #21 Mon, 13 Sep 99 10:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Darren Winsper)
Any way StarOffice can decently run on 32M ? (Adrian Dimulescu)
re: Absurd Linux mentality ! (Cap'n Billy)
Re: Netscape 4.6 + JAVA -> freezes (Wolfgang Feierabend)
Modem Sharing ("Zorlu Yusuf")
Re: Shell Script (Richard Thomas)
Re: HELP FTP won't UnShut! (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Can't make Perl script work locally! (Jon Skeet)
Linux/Macintosh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: acurate timing (James Andrews)
Pb with new, memory alloc, char tab..and g++ (Alexandre HUGOT)
Re: fips or Partition Magic? (Norman Levin)
Re: CDR software for linux ("Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)")
Re: CDR software for linux (Lew Pitcher)
Graphics card for 3D, TV and Video capture? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Any way StarOffice can decently run on 32M ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Swapping harddrives, this is confusing, I need help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help: Linux Netscape can't do DNS lookups using ADSL ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: 12 Sep 1999 18:33:02 GMT
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:25:35 -0700, K. Bjarnason
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, cars took over because they were better technology, even though they
> > were *not* as user-friendly, at least not according to the standards of
> > the day.
>
> According to your reasoning, the reason cars took over was better
> technology. Therefore, by your reasoning, Windows - being the dominant
> end-user platform, at least in the PC world - is therefore the superior
> technology, while Linux is an outdated, outmoded, obsolete tool chewing
> hay at the roadside while the world passes it by.
VHS was not superior to Betamax, but it still won out.
--
Darren Winsper - http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/darren.winsper
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
Java leads to Javascript. Javascript leads to Shockwave. Shockwave leads
to . . . suffering.
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From: Adrian Dimulescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any way StarOffice can decently run on 32M ?
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:31:16 GMT
I saw a message posted somewhere where some guy said that he never saw
such a big resource eater as Netscape Navigator. While I can use Netscape
pretty well on my 32 MB of RAM, I can say that I never experienced such
dramatic and constant swapping for an office package before I tried
StarOffice. It is really an enourmous program and I dare to say not really
optimally coded. (WordPerfect for Linux and Word for Windows are more than
confortable with my memory). It is truly a pity since it is a full-
featured program.
Or maybe I am misusing something ?
If you have any idea on some configuration that may speed things up,
you're welcome !
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cap'n Billy)
Subject: re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:50:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Linux users who are proud that they learned what:
>" cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf - ) "
> means; don't yet realise that knowledge of this arbitrary syntax, will be of
> no use to them in 10 years time.
<big ass snip>
>Bob T.
Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob . . .
Turn the damn computer off and sell it. It's obviously too much
for your nervous system.
Give up.
Captain William Jefferson Orgone III
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From: Wolfgang Feierabend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,netscape.public.mozilla.java
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.6 + JAVA -> freezes
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:38:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eitzenberger Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nils Bluethgen wrote:
>
> > Hello out there,
> >
> > I have a question about NETSCAPE 4.6 / 4.61 and JAVA. On some (not
on
> > all!) of our computers (we run linux-RH6.0) Netscape freezes when I
open
> > the URL
> >
> > http://www.stadtplandienst.de/query;ORT=b;LL=13.420389x52.54105
> >
> > with JAVA enabled. Without JAVA there's no problem,
> >
> > I read about the wrong fontpath-settings, but this does
> > not seem to be the problem, since chkfontpath --list prints:
> >
> > Current directories in font path:
> > 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> > 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
> > 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
> > 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
> > 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> > 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> > 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
> > 8: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
> > 9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mytype1
> > 10: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts
> > 11: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
> >
> > I also upgraded to Netscape 4.61, which gave the same result. Has
someone
> > an idea?
> >
> > Nils
>
> Hi !
>
> It might have something to do with a bug in 4.61 concerning JavaScript
Java
> LiveConnect.
> Check out if it works with NS 4.5
>
> mfg ET
>
>
I had the same problem with NS 4.5! It was the main reason to update to
4.6. Neither 4.5 nor 4.6 is running perfectly with Java enabled. Some
Java applets will do and others will not. Try http://sydsvenskan.se with
Java enabled. This swedish newspaper has a Java programmed selection box
at the left side of their home page. Use it two to four times and the
communicator will hang. Switch off Java and try again. This "none-Java"
version works fine. This is only an example. I had the same problem with
other sites too. Using the communicator without Java since then.
BTW: I use NS 4.6, KDE 1.1 and SuSE Linux 6.1 (Kernel 2.2.5).
Has anybody already asked Netscape about the problem?
Regards to everyone
Wolfgang
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From: "Zorlu Yusuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem Sharing
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:37:20 +0200
Hi there,
how can i share my Modem/Isdn-card, which is installed on SuSE Linux Server
6.2 to WindowsNT Workstations (Workstation and Server side)
Thanks & Bye
Zorlu Yusuf
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From: binbag@ starjump.org (Richard Thomas)
Crossposted-To: poster
Subject: Re: Shell Script
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:37:15 GMT
On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 01:00:11 -0700, "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am working on a shell script that will ftp a file, and then tarball the
>file that was downloaded. That is the easy part. But, I want to rename the
>file with the current date. In the form of "990911.tar.gz". How would I go
>about doing this? Is it possible in a bash shell script?
>
mv <source_file> `date '+%y%m%d'`.tar.gz
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: HELP FTP won't UnShut!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:27:52 GMT
[Non-existant newsgroups col.questions and col.help deleted. If your
server still carries these bogus groups, please contact your local
newsadmin and ask him to install PGP-verify for control messages]
[FollowUp-To: set]
"Christopher R. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >Help! I ftpshut my sever and now I can't get it started again. What do I
>> >do?
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> RTFM. "man ftpshut" will tell you.
>>
[...]
>YRTFM. FYI rm /etc/shutmsg seemed to work. No thanks to you.
Well, it's certainly not my fault if your manpage is incomplete.
[...]
>ftpshut(8) ftpshut(8)
[...]
> The [ warning-message . . .] will be formatted to be 75
> characters wide. knows about the actual string length of
> the magic cookies.
[...]
There's a paragraph missing. My version reads :
"Running this command will create a file that the server will use
to determine when to shutdown. Once the shutdown has occured, the
server will continue to refuse connections until this file is re-
moved. The location of this file is specified by the "shutdown"
stanza in the "ftpaccess" file."
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Can't make Perl script work locally!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:06:54 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> chmod, chgrp using 0755 wwwgroup respectively. Put it in
> /home/httpd/cgi-bin and my Apache is configured to allow (ExecCGI) cgi
> scripts to run as long as they're there.
Have you configured the extension you're using to by a CGI one?
You mention that you've modified srm.conf - have you got the line
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
in there (with no # before it)?
Also, changing the action won't help, as it's only used by the browser -
trying to get the *browser* to go to http://home/bin/whatever won't work.
Get it back to the state where it shows you the script, then leave the
HTML alone after that.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux/Macintosh
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:57:59 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are there any newsgroups that deal with "Linux/Macintosh" related issues?
Thanks
Sven
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From: James Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: acurate timing
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:17:55 +0000
Is there a good reason why no one has mentioned the "time" command? (I
risk looking incredibly dumb if the time command actually returns
jiffies, but I havent looked that close at it ;-) It seems to give the
execution time of a shell command accurate to one nano second (my maths
might be wrong, but 0.001 micros is one nano, ce n'est pas?). It also
tells you how much of this time was spent with the processor and how
much in I/O wait states. Sounds like what you need, standard on every
unix and linux distribution since the dawn of time, excuse the pun,
James
PS. Jiffies is actually a slang term for condoms in Edinburgh, not that
it has anything to do with this thread :-P. It does however bring a
whole new meaning to the term, "I'll be back in a jiffie".
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From: Alexandre HUGOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pb with new, memory alloc, char tab..and g++
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:21:35 +0200
Hello,
I have a prog, which compiles and run with g++ (version 2.8.1) on SUN,
or CC on SILICON. Memory allocation were verified with tools like
Purify, and there is no problems.
The same prog compiles with g++ on i386PC under Linux (RedHat5.2), but
breaks with seg. fault.
It breaks during the use of the operator new, on simple char tab :
int nb = 5 ;
char * blah ;
blah = new char[nb] ;
The prog is very unstable, jsut adding another alloc, makes it breaks
another way...
I can't remeber, but someone told me that there is special option for
compilation under linux with g++.
Can anybody help me ?
Thanks a lot.
Alexandre
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:20:59 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fips or Partition Magic?
Michel Catudal wrote:
>
> Norman Levin wrote:
> >
> > Leonard Evens wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, if you run the Partition Magic Setup and choose only
> > > to make a DOS rescue disk, and not to install PM
> > > in Windows, it works fine. You can then use that
> > > disk to resize the partition. We've done this recently with
> > > Windows 98.
> > >
> > While pm lets you make MANY changes to a disk at once by creating a batch
> > file that it runs when you confirm = do NOT do it. Do one step at a time
> > and display information - especially on dos partitions. I had pm hose
> > a drive and I run with the latest fixes.
> >
>
> Are you sure it was actually hozed and not part of your imagination?
*** It was hosed. The only time my imagination gets that much of a workout
*** is when my wife tries to convince me that I'm happily married.
>
> It used to that under PM 3.x and before you had to reboot the PC before you could
> go on the command line, not anymore.
*** I've used PM since version 3 also.
>
> I installed the dos version (not the recue stuff which is a largely reduced version).
> The whole thing will fit on a disk formated with something else than winblows latest
> bloated dos. It is all graphic even though you are booting on dos you'd think you're
> on windows and it is fast. Since you can get a drdos boot for free of the net, no
>reason
> not to use it.
>
> I had repartitionned my first drive which has winblows 98, the boot manager and
>DRDOS.
> After repartitioning DRDOS to use the empty 4M or so I exited and when I made a
>directory
> I saw no file. I thought I would have to reformat the partition thinking that PM had
> hosed the partition. What actually happened was that the dos I was on didn't have
> the partition table as it read on boot and couldn't find any file. After a reboot
>everything
> came back. Perhaps you panicked too fast and didn't bother to look to see if the
>stuff
> was actually gone.
>
> I have used PM for a long time and have never had anything trashed and I am very
>adventurous.
*** I'm adventurous also - but I was confident, else I'd never have done this
on a friends system.
*** However, I've had PM create partition table information where the the
ending of one partition
*** overlapped the start of another partition. Since the 'visual display'
calculates a length
*** to show a color (primary vs extended vs... you get the idea) this
subtraction comes out weird
*** and you see a partition that starts at the right side and then extend
towards the left.
*** People who haven't seen PM's display should check it out.
*** PM created it, but recognized that there was a problem and wouldn't NORMAL
touch it.
*** However, if you boot the rescue diskette, you can force pm to do unnatural
things by
*** invoking it as "pqmagic /ipe" (ignore partition error)
*** Needless to say, I've had 'minor' glitched, but nothing like what it did
to my
*** friends system. I'm convinced it was the fat16 - fat 32 - cluster changes
- etc
*** which really did me in but I don't have hard evidence.
*** BTW _ I always run with the latest fixes.
*** Anyway, after causing him all that misery, I bought him a copy of
"go-back".
*** While it will not help with partition changes, fat32-16-32 or cluster
changes,
*** howmany times does the average / semi-normal person do that? 'go-back'
should
*** keep him from hurting himself - and I feel better.
>
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From: "Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDR software for linux
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:35:23 -0400
> Use one of the GUI front-ends if you want, but, actually I find the
> command line isn't all that long:
>
> $ cdrecord -audio *.wav
>
> and I think you can even leave out the "-audio"...
Do you know how to do a "disk at once" audio CDR?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: CDR software for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:50:07 GMT
IIRC
cdrecord -dao -audio *.wav
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:35:23 -0400, "Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Use one of the GUI front-ends if you want, but, actually I find the
>> command line isn't all that long:
>>
>> $ cdrecord -audio *.wav
>>
>> and I think you can even leave out the "-audio"...
>
>Do you know how to do a "disk at once" audio CDR?
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Graphics card for 3D, TV and Video capture?
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:47:07 GMT
I have followed the linux for video debate for some time without being
any wiser as to which video card to choose for the new PCs I am
building. Ditto for sound.
I want 16/32M AGP graphics with good 3D performance, a TV tuner (I guess
this needs a BT848 or similar), realtime video capture & playback (some
form of MPEG compression?). I don't need Linux support for the TV or
Video right away so long as it's in the pipeline. Am I expecting too
much from one card? Am I better off buying a graphics card and a
seperate TV/Video card - if so which?
I am aware that some graphics card manufacturers have been hostile, or
less than helpful, to the open source community and I would prefer not
to buy their products, given a choice.
Regarding sound cards, most of the advice I have received points to the
sound blaster awe64 or such. What of the SoundBlaster Live! value or
quality clones.
All advice gratefully received.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any way StarOffice can decently run on 32M ?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 09:55:23 -0400
"Ryan T. Rhea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I totally agree. I ditched StarOffice after 30 minutes of impatient
> thumb-twiddling. WordPerfect runs much faster. There are no speed tweaks,
> either.
Couldn't agree more, waiting for Corel to complete the package with a
spreadsheet.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Swapping harddrives, this is confusing, I need help
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:08:17 GMT
Hi,
Here's my very basic setup:
8 Gig drive-Totally 95
1.2 Gig drive-Linux
2 Gig drive-Blank 95 partition
Here's what I need to do:
1. Copy 95 drive to the 95 partition (all the files should fit in the
two Gigs.
2. Reformat and repartition 8 Gig drive.
3. Copy linux to the new 8 Gig drive.
Here's what I need to know:
1. Dos command to copy entire directory sturcture. I've tried the
normal copy c:\*.* d:\ and it only copies files, not directories
2. The linux command to do basically the same thing
3. Linux command to make a LILO boot disk.
Basically, I am degrading windows to the 2 Gig drive and giving myself
more space for linux. I'll prolly be using the 1.2 Gig drive for either
another linux dist or FreeBSD. I will be doing a lot of drive switching
during this process so I think I know how to deal with LILO. I just
need someone to help me with those commands, stupid questions, I know.
TIA.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help: Linux Netscape can't do DNS lookups using ADSL
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:50:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>[DNS problems]
> With RH6, NS 4.61 and BS ADSL, I have had no problems. Which doesn't
> solve your problem, but I would have to think this is not a NS problem
> per se. Is NS using a proxy by any chance?
No. So one big difference betweeen your setup and mine would be
the newer RedHat, newer glibc, etc.
At any rate, I've solved the problem by adding "export
MOZILLA_NO_ASYNC_DNS=True" to the beginning of a netscape shell
script, as suggested by another poster.
When I get around to upgrading to a newer Linux, I'll try again with
asynchronous DNS.
Thanks,
Sean
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