Linux-Misc Digest #801, Volume #18 Thu, 28 Jan 99 21:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul E Larson))
trouble configuring uucp - help badly needed (Daddy Rabbit)
Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where do I find LILO source? ("Quiney, Philip (EXCHANGE:HAL02:HM10)")
Re: Web Browsers. . . (Michel Catudal)
Re: gcc vs egcs (Michel Catudal)
Re: Winmodem (Michel Catudal)
Re: Real Player Plugin and Netscape (Michel Catudal)
Re: Switching from Red Hat 5.1 to Debian (Michel Catudal)
Re: Linux Point-Of-Sale [ Search } (Rob Harris)
Re: Resuming downloads under Unix (Michel Catudal)
VFAT floppy for fstab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Villy Kruse)
AHA3940U and Linux 2.2.0 (Torsten Janke)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Toon Moene)
Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? (Christopher Browne)
Re: (Symbolic) Links (Bill Simpson)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Christopher Browne)
Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86 ("Derek Lakin")
Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out! (Christopher Browne)
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From: whistler<blahblah>@twcny.rr.com (Paul E Larson)
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:30:47 GMT
In article <78o4k8$upg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc M Sweger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: But what about this scenario. If I make linux a printerver without
>: any video card and I do a reboot of that box, I take it from this
>: thread that it'll hang. I don't want to put a video, keyboard and
>: monitor on it.
>
>You don't need a monitor to satisfy the (or most) peecee BIOSes, you just
>need a video card. Even an ancient herc card will do. The actual kb is
>usually required (you might be able to find a dummy kb connector to fool
>the BIOS though), but that's neither expensive nor large.
>
Nah... most BIOS's have the option to not stop on a keyboard error, not to
stop on any error or stop in all errors, usually in the same menu group as the
floppy and hard drive configuration.
Paul
Get rid of the blahs to email me :}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daddy Rabbit)
Subject: trouble configuring uucp - help badly needed
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm pulling my hair out trying to get UUCP up and running. To say that
I'm extremely frustrated would be an understatement. If you can help
me to resolve this issue I would be most grateful.
My system setup is as follows:
Intel 486DX2 66
32MB Ram
Kernel 2.0.36 (RedHat 5.2 distribution)
Two external Modems: USR 56K and Zoom 28.8k (connected by phone lines
in house)
Installed software:
mgetty (appears to be running ok - no errors reported in
var/log/mgetty.log.ttyS1)
uucp (configuration files included below)
Problem: (modem used on this machine is the Zoom)
I enter the following statement at the server prompt:
uucp junk.txt ltr\!~/junk.txt (no response from uucp)
uustat (shows the job in the send queue)
However, nothing happens. The modem does not dial and the job remains
in the queue.
uucico -C -s ltr (prompt comes back - no other response) Again modem
does nothing. /var/log/uucp/Log contain the following:
uucp ltr root (1996-01-20 19:33:51:01) Queuing send of
/etc/uucp/junk.txt to ~/junk.txt
uucp ltr - (1996-01-20 19:33:51:03)Retry time not reached
At this point nothing changes. I get no feedback from the modem or the
software. Trying to resolve the issue, I have changed computers both
computers and modems with the same result. I have verified that the
modems work correctly.
Getting absolutely no feedback from the modem or the software leaves
me at a loss as to how to correct the problem. If you have any ideas I
would really appreciate hearing them.
Thanks
Jim
configuration file contents:
(notes and highlights added for clarity,
not actually in the files)
call
ltr bpeters bullcrap (system, user name, and passwd on remote
machine)
config
nodename lps (local hostname = lps.lanstuff.com)
dial
dialer hayes
chat "" ATZ\r\d\c OK ATDT\T CONNECT
complete \d\d+++\d\dATH\r\c
abort \d\d+++\d\dATH\r\c
passwd
bpeters bullcrap (user name and passwd on remote machine)
port
type modem
port ttyS1
device /dev/ttyS1
dialer hayes
speed 9600 (is this the maximum speed? log file reports
xxxxx not supported if value above 9600)
sys
system ltr (remote hostname = ltr.lanstuff.com)
time any
call-timegrade Z Wk0755-2305,Su1655-2305
phone 1234567
chat-timeout 120
port type modem
port device /dev/ttyS1
port speed 28800
port carrier true
port dialer chat ""ATZ\r\d\c OK ATDT\D CONNECT
port dialer chat-fail NO\sCARRIER
port dialer complete \d\d+++\dATH\r\c
port dialer abort \d\d+++\dATH\r\c
chat-timeout 120
protocol-parameter g timeout 20
protocol-parameter g retries 10
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:18:40 GMT
I've been mucking around in the Win98 registry lately, and I wondered what is
the Linux equivilant of the registry (or if there even is one)?
I'm pre-newbie as I don't have a machine yet that I can install Linux on...
Curious,
Mark
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From: "Quiney, Philip (EXCHANGE:HAL02:HM10)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Where do I find LILO source?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:11:49 +0000
Vish Viswanathan wrote:
>
> Could some one please tell me where to locate the Lilo loader's source
> code?.
>
> Thanks
> Vish
>
> email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
You didn't specify the distribution but in RedHat doing this will give
you the package name of any executable on the system:
rpm -qf `which lilo`
(Note the quotes are the back single quote ` rather than ' - important
difference ;-)
On my system this gives
lilo-0.20-1
This is the binary but we now have its name so....
On the second CD (the one with the source on it) it will be something
like..
...../SRPMS/lilo-0.20-1.src.i386.rpm
If you don't have the CD then you can get the package from Rufus on
http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM
If you don't have an RPM'd distribution (such as suse or Redhat) then
this won't work. There is I believe a program called 'alien' which can
convert to/from RPM to formats used by other distributions such as
Debian though...
Hope this helps...
Regards
Phil Q
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web Browsers. . .
Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:34:06 -0600
Norvell Spearman wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a better web browser than Netscape for Linux, if it
> exists.
Unfortunately, at this time, it is the only one.
There is Athena
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
There is the one with KDE
Allright, I guess but doesn't have the quality and plugins capabilities of
Netscape.
Or if someone knows where I can find Netscape Navigator Gold
> v3.04 for Linux, that will be fine. I've tried downloading v3.04 from
> Netscape and it's extremely, very, unbelievably slow (some kind of ftp
> server just for old versions). I've tried the web browser which comes
> with StarOffice 5.0 and it's alright, but it doesn't support Java in
> Linux (AFAIK). Thanks for any help with this. . .
>
You should try 4.08 with encription 128 bits. It works well except
for a stupid bug where it thinks that I live in England and uses that
shit time mode called GMT. My linux box is set on real time,
Eastern time Michigan but it ignores it. I haven't found anything to
fix this. Netscape is the only one that thinks that I want GMT.
The export version works ok as far as the time is concerned.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc vs egcs
Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:34:07 -0600
Dean wrote:
>
> Dave Brown wrote:
>
> > I've noticed that the latest Slackwares seem to want to install egcs
> > instead of gcc. Is there any difference in compatibility between things
> > compiled with one vs other? Can the same libraries be used regardless
> > of which compiler? When I something needs compiling doesn't the make
> > process expect to find "gcc" or is this somehow taken care of
> > by symbolic linking or something? Is there some info site that explains
> > this all to me?
> >
> > --
> > Dave Brown Austin, TX
>
> Another question. How do I compile c++ with egcs?
With egcs, if you don't have a link g++ that poinst to egcs make one.
I haven't tested the C++ stuff yet with egcs but I know for a fact that
g++ isn't worth much. Create too many virtual functions and g++ will
create fixed address in never never land to guarantee a core dump.
One thing I read about egcs is that it is more ansi compliant than gcc
which is not.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Winmodem
Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:34:07 -0600
joseph_a_philbrook__iii wrote:
>
>
> Hmmmnnn I'm glad to here that my employer is willing to let that happen.
> I hope sombody takes advantage of that and writes a good rescue driver for
> all those newbies dumb enough to buy an OS specific perifial like a
> winmodem... Thanks Lucent, keep this up and I'll be proud to work here
> again...
>
> Ah, that is IF the drivers don't all get written to depend on xwindows being
> installed or something...<g>
>
This would be stupidity at it's best. It would be interesting to see
how efficient a Linux written driver would be compare to a winblows driver.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Player Plugin and Netscape
Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:34:08 -0600
Dennis K. Grow wrote:
>
> It's in my list of plugins. And works like it should.
> I installed rv50_linux20.tar.gz, not the RPM. Might make a difference.
>
Whenever I get to a site that requires a plug in Netscape is flushed.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Switching from Red Hat 5.1 to Debian
Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:34:08 -0600
Rod Person wrote:
>
> How can I upgrade a Red Hat system to Debian without deleting the
> working binary apps? I think if I follow the installation procedures and
> not initalize a previous linux partition, it will just write over the
> red hat stuff. Any one know.
It seems more like a downgrade, not to say a major headeache. Stay with
RedHat, and considering that it is where the industry is going you have
better chance of having a good working system. Debian requires much more
work than you might have the patience to do.
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From: Rob Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Point-Of-Sale [ Search }
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:23:02 -0600
The only one i know of is from a compay is canaida.
it uses Tl/tcl and lookd dam good from what i saw of it.
how ever i don't have the website info in front of me.
but you can find it in the linux web ring.
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Rand McNatt wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:35:03 -0600, "cd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Does anybody know of any projects that focus on general retail point-of-sale
> >?
> >Thanks,
> >Clif Daniel
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Red Hat 5.2 Apollo i386
>
> The only one i've been able to find is at
> http://members.iweb.net.au/~steveoc/gtk_pizza.html
>
> Good luck
> Rand
>
>
>
>
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resuming downloads under Unix
Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:34:09 -0600
Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> Is anyone aware of a download manager for Unix? Something similar to
> Windows GetRight or Go!zilla. I found kget but it requires that you are
> using KDE.
>
> Regards, Dustin
>
using NcFTP
get -C filename
Browser wget
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VFAT floppy for fstab
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:29:31 GMT
I'm having trouble getting floppies automatically detected for VFAT.
Currently I have this line in my /etc/fstab:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
and any user can mount floppies of several types (ext2, HFS, MSDOS) with:
mount /mnt/floppy
Great. The problem is when I mount a DOS floppy this way, it automatically
decides to use MSDOS mode giving me crappy 8.3 filenames when there are long
filenames on the disk. It seems to pick MSDOS over (or before) VFAT. Now, as
root (and ONLY root) I can do a:
mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
which works for long filenames but is exactly what I wanted to avoid with the
fstab method.
What I would like is to be able to type 'mount /mnt/floppy' and mount as VFAT
(when appropriate), as well as ext2, HFS, etc. seamlessly with this short
command by any user at that same mountpoint (vs having a separate /mnt/vfat or
whatever). Is this even possible? If it matters /proc/filesystems is:
ext2
msdos
vfat
nodev proc
nodev nfs
nodev smbfs
iso9660
hfs
nodev autofs
Is this a factor? Does mount use this ordering for fs detection? If so can
VFAT be moved ahead of MSDOS?
Any advice, wisdom, lectures, songs, chants would be greatly appreciated...
-G.B.Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 09:46:43 +0100
In article <78ohfu$lig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>It is not a linux problem as far as I know, but a bios problem. But why
>all this fuss over a $10 video card? Your time complianing here was
>worth more than that.
If you can locate an old MDA adapter and screen from some scrap heap
it will work perfectly. You can also specify a serial connected terminal
as console. I swiped an old original IBM MDA adapter and screen from an
old IBM PC some 10 years old and it is in perfect working condition.
Any cared that is no longer adequate for running windows will do, actually.
Villy
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From: Torsten Janke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: AHA3940U and Linux 2.2.0
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:41:31 +0100
I have downloaded, compiled and installed the kernel version 2.2.0, but
when booting the machine hangs when detecting the scsi devices.
My machine configuration is a dual PentiumPro board with the Adaptec
AHA-3940U/UW scis adaptor and the following devices:
Channel A : Seagate ST43400N
Channel A: Seagate ST410800N
Channel B: HP354880A (DAT)
Channel B: Pioneer DR-U10X (CDROM)
Channel B: Iomega Jaz 1GB
The kernel detects the 3940 scsi adaptor but then the following happens:
scsi 2: 2 hosts
Vendor: (first harddisk)
Type: ....
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id1, lun 0
Vendor: (second disk)
Type: ...
Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
scsi: aborting command due to timeout: pid 9, scsi1, channel 0, id 0,
lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
Then tha machine hangs. Interestingly there is no device at id 0 on the
scsi1.
Under kernel 2.0.36 everything works fine.
Maybe somebody can help?
Torsten
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From: Toon Moene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:59:31 +0100
Allen Versfeld wrote:
> Yeah, don't forget that win95's stated minimum config is a 386 with 4 MB
> RAM (or something). I once had to actually install it on such a
> minimum spec machine (shudders at memory) can you say 30 FRIGGIN
> MINUTES TO BOOT!!!!! The installation alone took over 6 hours - without
> errors. I still have nightmares about detecting new hardware - 60
> seconds for each window (announcing that it was about to do something,
> and requiring me to click OK, then doing it again, then again, just to
> check that I hadn't made a mistake)
I must say that's impressive - given the hardware configuration ...
On my 300 Mhz Pentium II notebook, installation from 24 speed CDROM took
50 minutes sharp, followed by an unexplained 25 minutes (including 6
reboots) of reshuffling, hardware-detecting, optimizing-disk-usage and
general configuration "business".
Needless to say, Red Hat 5.2 took 2 minutes to format my (6.4 Gb) hard
disk and 5:20 minutes to install the OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:32:04 GMT
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:18:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been mucking around in the Win98 registry lately, and I wondered
>what is the Linux equivilant of the registry (or if there even is one)?
Windows >= 95 takes the "Soviet/Fascist Central Planning" approach where
configuration is controlled by a central politburo. This has the
unfortunate result of making configuration highly dependent on the
central bureaucrats, and highly prone to corruption.
In contrast, Linux does not subscribe to this sort of fascist approach;
subsystems are permitted to use whatever configuration schemes prove
most convenient to them.
This tends to result in great controversy; there are those that think
that authoritarian fascism is a better arrangement.
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:54:02 -0600
From: Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links
Must have been a permission problem, thanks.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:32:21 GMT
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:20:43 +1100, Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>G'day...
>
>> How does what you just said in any way indicate that I need to
>>refresh my memory with textbooks? You've only confirmed what I said
>>- that the majority of the innovations in the computing industry have
>>come from the US. I didn't exclude the miltary from involvement.
>>They *are* US citizens after all, and where do you think the US
>>military *recruits* from?
>
>Hrmm.... No offence but please don't see things through such a limited
>world
>view.
>
>The US military must recruit from US nationals. The reason for this
>should be
>fairly obvious.
>The US has provided quite a number of innovations to the computing
>industry. However to my perception, the computing industry is far
>broader than what so far has been discussed or apparently perceived to
>be in the discussion. If it wasn't for countries other than the US, it
>is extremely doubtful that the US would have provided the innovations it
>has. (Note: I am not demeaning those innovations, as they are
>wonderful.)
>Also, please don't confuse commerce with innovations. The US has
>greatly provided (or at least a large contribution) to the financial and
>commercial push of modern computing.
Moving back a generation or two, Charles Babbage and Lady Ada Lovelace
were decidedly not from the US. More practically, Alan Turing,
establisher of early computing theory, was not American; the British
crypto folk were the ones who "jump-started" modern computing, and were
*not* from nor in the US.
>(There are many examples of US teams formed mainly from non US
>nationals.)
Indeed. When one of my brothers worked at IBM a couple years back,
there was not a single person in his 40-odd-strong group that was
permitted to attend a particular conference, as IBM only allowed US
citizens to attend.
The US has provided a market willing to *SPEND* more than almost any
other for computing innovations. Which is useful, and encourages
innovation. But does not in and of itself establish innovation.
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From: "Derek Lakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:04:28 -0000
Look in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (or weherever you have the same file). It
probably has the command 'gpm -R -m /dev/mouse -t mman' (the mman at the end
is for MouseMan mice, yours should be something different, e.g. ms3).
This loads gpm when you login to give you mouse access outside of X Windows.
If you delete the -R it should work. It worked for me.
Derek.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <1999Jan28.102224.56595@ludens>...
>Hi!
>I have a problem with configuring my serial MS IntelliMouse with X under
Linux.
>I have Slackware 3.3 (2.0.30 kernel, XFree86 3.3). When configuring X
(XF86Setup, xf86config or directly editing XF86Config), I
>tried each possible setup, but the mouse cursor didn't want to move anyway.
>With XF86Setup (VGA16 server) I was able to use to mouse as IntelliMouse,
but just until I started the final X server.
>It doesn't work neither with VGA16, SVGA nor S3 X servers.
>Can anyone help me?
>Should I download a newer XFree86?
>Please send e-mail to:
>
>Peter Csontos
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanx a lot!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:32:02 GMT
On 28 Jan 1999 12:06:18 GMT, Duncan Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <hxQr2.25958$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher
>Browne) writes:
>
>>On 27 Jan 1999 10:18:05 -0700, Steven Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[stuff snipped]
>
>>According to my calculations:
>>(let
>> ((usdprice 47)
>> (exchangerate 1.35)
>> (gst 1.07)
>> (qst 1.08)
>> (endprice 89))
>> (- endprice
>> (* usdprice
>> exchangerate
>> gst
>> qst)))
>>15.6772
>
>>I'd say that Peter may have gotten charged about $16 for the benefit of
>>a store in Quebec shipping it in from Ottawa and displaying it on their
>>shelf, at least compared to your pricetag. (I could be off by up to a
>>percent on QST. I haven't been in Quebec for a couple of years; have
>>been to Ottawa, but not over to the Quebec side...)
>
>It is not that simple I am afriad. The false assumption here is the same
>exchange rate applies for computer stuff as everything else. In the UK
>the exchange rate is 1 GBP=$1.5 to a reasonable approximation. IF you
>compare computer prices then 1 GBP=$1 or worse. I think you will find most
>of the differences accrues to people like M$ and not the people selling
>the computers.
There are three assumptions that may be incorrect:
a) That the $47 LinuxMall price included shipping.
b) That the US/Canadian exchange rate is "close enough" to 1.35. I
think that's close enough.
c) That the QST rate is 8%. I think it may be a very little bit less.
Note that Corel, the company that *produces* WordPerfect, is
headquartered in Ottawa, Canada. That means that the same exchange rate
indeed *does* apply for the product.
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