Linux-Misc Digest #801, Volume #20               Sat, 26 Jun 99 22:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: gui diff tool for linux? (NF Stevens)
  Re: sdtio.h:  No such file or directory (NF Stevens)
  Re: removing corrupt files (NF Stevens)
  Re: Installing Glibc (NF Stevens)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retes 
("Gene Heskett")
  Re: Matrox G200 video driver? (mist)
  Re: Screen Resolution.... (Sam Alexander)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Automatic FTP a file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RAID5 UDMA IDE disk array v. non-RAIDed SCSI? (Arcadio A. Sincero Jr.)
  Re: Commercially speaking....? ("Anthony W. Youngman")
  [Fwd: Missing Library] (lclyman)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Rahul Dhesi)
  Screen Resolution.... ("Chris Knapp")
  [Fwd: Missing Library] (lclyman)
  Re: Installing Glibc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: gui diff tool for linux?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:05:54 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>
>Does anyone know if there is a gui diff tool available for linux?
>
My SuSE 5.2 has mgdiff.

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: sdtio.h:  No such file or directory
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:05:52 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Robbins) wrote:

>i know files like:
>
>       stdio.h
>       stdlib.h
>
>are standard header files, but which library or RPM (RedHat 6.0) are
>they in so I can install them?
>
glibc-devel

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: removing corrupt files
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:05:54 GMT

"Ted George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

>when i try and remove these files i get an "Operation not permitted" error.

lsattr <file name> should give something like

======== <file name>

If there's an i instead of the 5th or 6th - then as root run
chattr -i <file name>

Check the man pages for lsattr and chattr for more info.

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Installing Glibc
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:05:51 GMT

Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark Fleming wrote:
>> 
>> I am a slackware user and am thinking about installing glibc so I can
>> run some of the more popular software that is out now. (Mozilla and the
>> G2 aplha for example).  How straight forward is it if you yourself have
>> done it?  Any tips?
>> 
>Never done this particular thing myself, but I recently compiled many
>app's that brought some libs with them (e.g. pgp). It was never harder
>than
><fetch source>
>tar xfz <tarball>
>cd <into dir>
>/configure --prefix=/usr
>make
>[make check], if available
>su root -c make install
>
>done.

glibc is different because it is the system c library and every
binary on your system links to it. There is quite a lot of 
documentation in the glibc package about upgrading your system.
Read it thoroughly before attempting to install anything.

Norman

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Date: 26 Jun 99 07:28:55 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft 
Retes
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix

Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Robin Becker;

 RB> In article <7l280k$1d9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hughes
 RB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>How about these? Did MS cheat also? ;)
>>
>>http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html
>>
>>http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/jumps/0,4270,401961,00.html
>>
>>
 RB> ...
 RB> a bit off topic, but an article in my paper, the Independent, states
 RB> that M$'s encarta has different versions for different countries. If M$
 RB> can claim in the US that Edison (October 1879) invented the electric
 RB> light bulb before Swan (February 1879) then a few adjustments to
 RB> benchmark results seem minor. Apparently the M$ mouthpiece says these
 RB> sort of 'facts' aren't always black and white etc etc. 

 RB> It was Orwell's 1984 that had the 'Ministry of Truth', but I wonder if,
 RB> now that we have the technology, it's becoming a reality.

We've had one for quite a while, Robin.  Where do you think George got
the idea from?  Maybe Doc (E.E.) Smith, but I'd supect it goes back
farther than that.  Its just that thats about the time frame I came on
the scene with a mature enough mind to start recording things.

Cheers, Gene
-- 
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 video driver?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:12:11 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bill Wooldridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>I have just installed RedHat 5.2 on a partition of my hard drive and
> am
>having the devil's own time getting the video configured to work with
>Xwindows.  Is there a driver I can install for the Matrox G200 AGP
> card with
>8 Meg of RAM.  Where can I find it? My monitor is a NEC MultiSync
> 4FGe.  Any
>hints much appreciated.
>

Make sure that you upgrade the Xfree86 rpms from the Redhat errata
pages.

<URL:http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/errata/rh52-errata-general.html>

I believe.  The distributed versions are outdated and have security
holes, and the newer ones support the Matrox G200.  I know as one is
running in this box.
-- 
Mist.

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From: Sam Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen Resolution....
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:43:28 -0400

I'm assuming you are running XFree86 server.
Log in as root on the command line.  Type:
Xconfigurator
Follow directions.

A little background...Xconfigurator will configure the *X Server*, which
your window managers (fvwm, Enlightment, fvwm95, etc) run on top of. 
Read about the differences between the X server and window managers.

Also, when you are looking for information on Linux stuff, you can do a
search through the man pages by doing:
man -k sometopic
or
man -K sometopic

Type:
man man
to learn more about the man pages.

Sam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

**Spam away.  I really don't care, I simply delete it if I don't know
who it's from!**

Chris Knapp wrote:
> 
> ...how do I change it under RH6?  I used the default install resolution
> (1280X1024), and its a tad small for my 17" monitor.  I looked in the Gnome
> config panel and there are lots of options for backgrpunds, themes, etc, but
> I can't find a place to reduce the screen resolution.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Chris

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 23:58:22 GMT

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:14:16 +0100, John Hughes wrote:
>There are now 4 benchmarks for your perusal and you still cant see it.
>*sigh*

They are *performance* benchmarks, not *price/performance* benchmarks.

Price/performance is not as simple as Microsoft makes it. The way it works
in the real world is somewhat different. Usually, a company will have (X) 
bandwidth, and they need a server that is good enough to utilise all of 
it. 

*Given* a collection of servers that are capable of performing well enough
to use all available bandwidth, there are many factors that will determine 
which one is suitable for the task, but 
*once the bandwidth requirement is fulfilled*,
extra performance is irrelevant since it will not benefit the customer.
At this stage, price, reliabilty and security are the central issues.

In other words, linux might be behind NT on performance, but the difference
can only be observed in situations where the availabile bandwidth is 
extremely high.

And yet again, I raise the issue that if people hosting websites really 
cared about performance, they would not use Apache ( which is dog slow 
compared to other unix webservers ). They use it because for most purposes,
Apache is fast enough.

-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Automatic FTP a file
Date: 26 Jun 1999 21:52:59 GMT

Adam Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need to write a shell to automatically FTP one file to a secure FTP site
> from a Linux machine.

> What I am attempting in the FTP command line program is

> ftp sitename
> (automatically put in username and password)
> cd directory
> put local file
> quit

> ANy suggestions how I can automate this program

Well, I used a simple shell script and schedule it with cron. It works a
treat even through firewalls.

Here's the script:

##################################################################
#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/ftp -i -n <<_EOF_
open proxy_server
user username_for_proxy password_for_proxy
user username@ftp_site password_for_ftp_site
#
# Insert assorted ftp commands you need here
#
quit
_EOF_
##################################################################

That's it! No more, no less. I use it with cron to schedule midnight
downloads and get the cheaper traffic rates. You may need to modify it
slightly to fit your setup - ie. if you have firewall or not, what sort of
firewall, etc..

Hope that helps.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arcadio A. Sincero Jr.)
Subject: RAID5 UDMA IDE disk array v. non-RAIDed SCSI?
Date: 27 Jun 1999 00:14:42 GMT

        I'm thinking of setting up a RAID5 array on my LAN's fileserver. 
This will be the first time I've ever messed around with RAID so this ought
to get very interesting.  Right now it's all SCSI.  I'm wondering how a
RAID5 array composed of UDMA IDE drives compares, read/write performance
wise, to non-RAIDed SCSI.  Anybody have any insights they'd like to share? 
Is it faster, just as fast, or slower (*yikes!*)?

Thanks!  BTW I'm going to be using the Linux Software RAID drivers and not
hardware RAID.

-- 
=====================================================================
Arcadio Alivio Sincero Jr.              
Computer Science Major, University of Maryland Baltimore County

WWW: http://www.sinceronet.ddns.org (COMING REAL SOON NOW(tm)!!!)
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 those who can't."


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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:18:03 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <7k9bdd$gll$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chad Mulligan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Mark Evans wrote in message ...
>>Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, mlw wrote:
>>
>>>>XFree86 does not need to multitask programs because it run on operating
>>>>systems that naturally have this capability.
>>
>>> My point exactly - Microsoft should have put multitasking (and a lot of
>>> the other things that windows does) in DOS, instead of in Windows.
>>
>>DOS was part way there, indeed some non MS versions of DOS
>>were multi-tasking. And for that matter Concurrent CP/M was
>>also multi-tasking...
>
>Yeah, I remember double-DOS.  Anyone here ever been subjected to Pick?
>
Which Pick? Read my sig ...
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the 
thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man 
lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
Visit the MaVerick web-site - <http://www.maverick-dbms.org> Open Source Pick

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From: lclyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: Missing Library]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:19:09 -0400

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Subject: Missing Library
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When trying to configure and install WebMaker I get the following error
message during configuration::
"no acceptable C++  compiler found in  $PATH "..
Can anyone tell me what I need to do here?
Is that a compiler that I need to install off the LM 6.0 CD?
Any help is greatly appreciated
lclyman




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rahul Dhesi)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 27 Jun 1999 00:17:01 GMT

"John Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>There is a cost basis on this summary which is based on Mindcraft AND PC
>weeks/magazines independant benchmark.

>http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp

>This shows NT to be far cheaper based on price/performance.

I am primarily a FreeBSD user, so the above benchmarks are only
indirectly of interest to me.  Benchmarks such as those above are a bit
boring, since nobody will be ONLY serving static files and ONLY for a
short time (so long as the NT-based web server can stay up).  I would be
more impressed if benchmarks were presented that included:

- Some evaluation of the costs of implementing active content such as
  php, cgi-bin, mod_perl, jserv.  Ignoring all of these is not
  realistic.

- Some evaluation of the costs of doing remote administration.  You
  will need to install either something free like vnc, or something
  costly like PC-Anywhere, and then you will need a fast link between
  you and the remote NT machine that you want to administer.  Due to
  performance problems, it's quite hard (almost impractical) to do much
  with an NT machine when the only connection between it and you is a
  slow link.  If you are travelling and your connection to home is via a
  dial-up link and a long Internet path, you will soon go crazy doing
  any significnat work on the remote NT server.  Not mentioned in these
  reviews.

- The cost of any hardware or software needed to compensate for the
  fact that busy NT web servers don't stay up for very long.  What this
  means is that you can't have just a single web server running NT doing
  any significant work, without suffering a lot of service
  interruptions.  You *CAN* have a single web server running Linux or
  FreeBSD doing significant work.  The various commercial benchmark
  attempts don't mention this NT problem.

- The ease with which web service can be moved between Linux and FreeBSD.
  What this means is that no matter how Linux performs, it doesn't matter,
  if FreeBSD has the performance you need!  Any review that ignores this
  simple fact is an incomplete review.
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   See my UUNET spam mini-faq at:
      http://www.rahul.net/dhesi/uunet.faq.txt

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From: "Chris Knapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screen Resolution....
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:17:02 -0400

...how do I change it under RH6?  I used the default install resolution
(1280X1024), and its a tad small for my 17" monitor.  I looked in the Gnome
config panel and there are lots of options for backgrpunds, themes, etc, but
I can't find a place to reduce the screen resolution.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Chris




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From: lclyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: Missing Library]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:19:09 -0400

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Subject: Missing Library
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When trying to configure and install WebMaker I get the following error
message during configuration::
"no acceptable C++  compiler found in  $PATH "..
Can anyone tell me what I need to do here?
Is that a compiler that I need to install off the LM 6.0 CD?
Any help is greatly appreciated
lclyman




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Installing Glibc
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:58:27 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Fleming  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--------------007EA4FB0D7417A48B16AB37
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>I am a slackware user and am thinking about installing glibc so I can
>run some of the more popular software that is out now. (Mozilla and the
>G2 aplha for example).  How straight forward is it if you yourself have
>done it?  Any tips? 
>
>-- 
>Mark Fleming Student ICQ# 16171200
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...<snip>..
        Don't be so sure that just upgrading glibc will get you to run
that g2a1_linux22.bin.  I upgraded to the Slack4.0 distribution and it
still segfaults on me, though it runs on my mandrake distribution.  They
must've linked in some other specific libraries when they built that
binary.  (if only it were source, sigh).  I haven't explored a solution
because it hasn't been that high a priority for me.

-- 
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