Linux-Misc Digest #807, Volume #18 Fri, 29 Jan 99 06:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Booting Linux from a Zip Drive!?!!?!! ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Mark Ramos)
Re: Pentium Pro or Pentium II for signal processing? (Mark Hahn)
Redhat 5.0: :X-window & pppd (Michael Tse)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Mark Ramos)
running FOXPRO unix on linux (Max Jerome)
Changing Display settings (RCT)
Re: Root Password Not Working - Pls Help (Matthias Warkus)
Multidrop Mail Software ("Tom Furie")
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Bill Unruh)
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (D. J. Birchall)
modutils 2.1.121 & kernel 2.2.0 (Massimo Morin)
Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading (Marc Jauvin)
Re: VFAT floppy for fstab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux RedHat 5.2 or SuSE 5.3 ? (Gruppo Aeromodellisti Lugano)
Re: Mouse Autoraise in Red Hat (Gruppo Aeromodellisti Lugano)
cannot open root device 08:07 (Tim Pickrell)
Re: (Symbolic) Links Again (gus)
Re: ps aux oddity (gus)
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting Linux from a Zip Drive!?!!?!!
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:21:26 +1100
G'day...
> it's parallel, it'll be s...l...o...w. A parallel Zip drive will also slow
> your system down to a crawl while it works. (I used to move MP3s between
Not under Linux. =)
Windows IO management is terrible.
You won't find Linux crawling because its copying or moving files around a
parrallel port zip drive.
The transfers to or around the drive will be slow - but the OS won't really
slow down because of it. You can throw the process to the background and keep
on working.
All the best.
Michael.
P.s. I have a parrallel port zip drive (I wanna scsi one!) and hence you can
watch my machine to verify this. =) ;)
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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:26:47 -0800
mlw wrote:
>
> Yes, this is a problem, but, it is unclear that it is an unworkable one. I bet
> lilo could be modified to write to the serial port. (Now that's a cool
> project!)
Lilo does. You can add an append statement like the one below that will do it.
But Lilo, because it sits in the boot sector or mbr, loads once the bios is
initialized. What if lilo is blown away? Or what if you haven't built the
system yet? Better start trucking out that ol' video card.
>
>
> I don't think you are complaining. Sun systems are great, there is even Linux
> for them. The issue is "are these arguments show stoppers?" What are the
> pros/cons of Sun boxes?
Thats right. I'm not bashing Linux at all and for the most part it seems like
people realized that from my first post. But what I am bashing is the idea that
"PC's are taking over -- SGI is using 'em, all will conform" or something.
Things still need to be ironed out first.
>
>
> --
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> Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
> Visit the Mohawk Software website: www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Pro or Pentium II for signal processing?
Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:34:51 GMT
>> Ummm...thought the celeron & xeon had the same core as the Pentium, but
>> differed in the amount and location of L2 cache...
> As the PII, I believe, but differed in amount of L2 cache.
the Pentium bears very little resemblance to the P6 family:
it's not out-of-order, barely superscalar, etc. the P6 family
contains the original P6 core (8+8K L1) and the PII core (16+16K L1 and MMX).
the P6/PII chips (P6, PII, Celeron, CeleronA, Xeon, Dixon, PIII)
mainly differ in how much L2 cache they have onchip or in-package,
and whether the L2 is clocked with the core or at half core.
as for signal processing, the main issues are data layout
(cache size, speed, and for low cache-hit-rates, dram clocking)
and whether you can use MMX/3dnow/KNI or just the FPU.
regards, mark hahn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Tse)
Subject: Redhat 5.0: :X-window & pppd
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:19:51 GMT
HI:
1. I have installed Linux 5.0 in my box. Also I have already to
configure X during setup. During installation PCI probing found X
Server :SVGA
then I also choose the type of my monitor, set the frequency and auto
probing also probe my chipset etc. However when I enter startx under
root, the error message is as follows:
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2) no server " X" in path
xinit: connection refused : (errno 111) unable to connect to X
server
xinit: No such process (errnor 3) server error
Then return to root, please help me to solve this problem.
2. During the installaiton I have install the package about
networking and choose all the services running during boot up the
kernel. However, when I enter " dmesg | grep -i ppp " . I cannot see
the message about the version of pppd. Is the pppd running in my Linux
box.? If no, how can I execute the pppd?
Thank
MIke.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 11:11:50 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) writes:
>
> > I would hope so. :) I think that formal communication should still use
> > correct grammar and style, but electronic communication is decidedly
> > less formal.
>
> Erik doesn't capitalize the beginning of a sentence in order to be
> *more* formal...
Eek. That should be does, not doesn't. Sorry.
kai
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 11:12:47 +0100
Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > FWIW, I like /both/ kinds of music [...]
>
> Me too. Country and and the other kind, western.
Yes, but you don't like angry fruit salad :-)
kai
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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:37:22 -0800
Christopher Browne wrote:=
>
> The feature of *requiring* video card is every bit as much "fluff."
>
> If you want to have a real reliable server system, one of the things you
> want to do is to take out unnecessary components that could break.
> Video support is one such thing.
>
Exactly. There is apparently a number of folks in this discussion that have
never been in this type of environment to know what we are talking about.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Max Jerome )
Subject: running FOXPRO unix on linux
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:51:44 GMT
Sorry I took so long to get back to you guys.
I have posted a document on my website explaining the procedure to get
foxpro unix going under linux, it is at
spot2000.home.mindspring.com/fplinux.html
Please e-mail me at the address on the site and let me know If you
were able to get the document and if you were able to get it going and
any questions, suggestions, comments or hints that you find out.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RCT)
Subject: Changing Display settings
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:06:11 GMT
Hello new to Linux, I have configured my monitor during setup
800x600.. everything works fine but would like to change to 1024x768
how do you do this???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Root Password Not Working - Pls Help
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:54:04 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 27 Jan 99 19:37:44 GMT...
..and Don R. Herron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's all it takes to change a root password? That doesn't seem very
> secure. <<Sarcasm>>
Computers aren't supposed to reboot anyway. No regular user should be around
the system console when a machine boots.
Remember that no machine is more secure than the machine room's door and the
safe with the boot tapes.
mawa
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lowers your social status...
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From: "Tom Furie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Multidrop Mail Software
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:24:22 -0000
Hi there,
I am looking for some software that will allow me to pick up mail for
multiple accounts on a Linux box from a single POP account.
I looked at Fetchmail, but the documentation advises against using Fetchmail
for this purpose. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what other
packages might offer what I am looking for?
Cheers,
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:58:53 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The point is not the money spent on a $10 video card. But it kind of looks
>funny in an environment that, say are all Sun boxes and none of them have
A video card cannot be seen. And if you open the boxes the Suns look as
funny as the PC with its $10 video card. And most newer BIOS can be
configured to disregard all errors and continue booting-- without
prossing F1-- precisely for the scenario you envisage..
>keyboards/mice dangling and can be built/configured, etc. without any special
Mouse??? None require mice to boot.
>"work-arounds". Now we have this lowly PC that is the only one with a video
"work around"? Call it setup.
>card. Why? because it will beep at you when you take it out. And why is this
>the only system with a keyboard? Well because when you turn it on without a
>keyboard it asks you to press "F1 to continue". Hmm. Well can I stick a
Get a newer BIOS? What is this PC that you have? A 1990 386? If what you
>console to it and bypass that? nope. Maybe stick that $10 video card in there
>temporarily to press F1 then take it out! Doesn't sound like a good solution
>to me does it?
Well you had better not take out the video card while the system is
running. Are you confusing a monitor with a video card?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. J. Birchall)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:19:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Maybe the day will come when Linux is a serious challenge to other
>enterprise solutions, but it will only advance as fast as the Intel
>platform does. Therefore, it today is only competing against other
>Intel-platform solutions (NT and Novell)... in which realm it holds
>clear superiority.
These would be interesting points to debate. It could be said that
Linux is not limited by Intel's limitations, since it is available
for so many other CPU's - SPARC, M68K, PPC, Alpha, MIPS, and ARM.
At the same time, though, efforts to keep Linux source-compatible
across all these platforms might result in the other platforms being
"held back" a bit to maintain compatibility with the Intel CPU family.
Also, since most Linux users are running on the Intel platform, more
effort goes into developing for it.
I think that Linux/Alpha systems could be used seriously in
enterprise settings - their use on Titanic and in the Avalon
indicates that they can certainly get the work done. Whether
the software is there might be another issue. And of course,
it would help if Alpha's were selling a little faster. ;)
I wonder if Merced will help.
-Dan
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From: Massimo Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modutils 2.1.121 & kernel 2.2.0
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:14:08 -0500
Hi,
I'm using RH5.2 and I want to install the new kernel 2.2.0
I followed the ChangeLog for having the system up-to date for the new
kernel, but:
1) current modutils is 2.1.85, if I try to instal 2.1.121
the system complains that
/sbin/insmod.static is needed by mkinitrd-1.8-2
if I cannot remove mkintrd becouse is needed by mkbootdisk-1.1-2
so I disinstalled mkinitrd and mkbootdisk, for installing modutils.
BUT, unfortunatly I cannot reinstall them because the
/sbin/insmod.static is missing
So... may I live without mkinitrd and mkbootdisk????
How can I solve the problem???
2) Does anyone know the existance of the NFS stuff in rpm format (file
nfs-server-2.2beta40.tar.gz) ?
Thanks in advance
Massimo
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From: Marc Jauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:14:29 -0500
Eric Potter wrote:
>
> Kelvin Leung enlightened this group thus:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I got my RH 5.2 running with Ensoniq PCI sound card. I have the alsa
> > sound driver works fine. Both X11amp and Realaudio can produce sound
> > out. But the RealAudio heavily load my CPU (K6-166 overclocked to 200).
> > The audio is interrupted everytime I change to another window , or
> > browsing within Netscape. I got the CPU load monitor fire up and it
> > seems the CPU is fully occupied! I don't think it's the CPU problem 'cos
> > I don't have problem with X11amp, also the Realaudio (not G2) in Windows
> > in the same machine. Is that a fact or just my system doing weird!?
> >
> > Kelvin
>
> The sound driver in the 2.2.0 kernel performs much better. The problem with
> interruptions when switching between windows has been pretty much eliminated.
I tried the sound driver of the 2.2.0 kernel with my Ensoniq PCI and I get poor
sound (with play command) and Realaudio does not work at all (cannot write to
the /dev/dsp or /dev/audio error message). I am running RedHat 5.2 with the
alsa drivers (kernel 2.2.0) and it works very well (except for the interuptions
that were described above).
-- marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VFAT floppy for fstab
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:22:20 GMT
Well, I snooped around some more on my own and if anyone cares, here's what I
did. I edited linux/fs/filesystems.c and simply moved this portion:
#ifdef CONFIG_VFAT_FS
init_vfat_fs();
#endif
in front of the similar msdos fs init. I recompiled the kernel and now in
/proc/filesystems vfat is before msdos and gets properly autodetected. Ext2
and HFS still autodetect OK too.
Does anyone know if I can expect any problems down the road or is there no
reason this shouldn't be stable?
-G.B.Smith
In article <78p755$nfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm having trouble getting floppies automatically detected for VFAT.
> Currently I have this line in my /etc/fstab:
>
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
>
> and any user can mount floppies of several types (ext2, HFS, MSDOS) with:
>
> mount /mnt/floppy
>
> Great. The problem is when I mount a DOS floppy this way, it automatically
> decides to use MSDOS mode giving me crappy 8.3 filenames when there are long
> filenames on the disk. It seems to pick MSDOS over (or before) VFAT. Now, as
> root (and ONLY root) I can do a:
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
>
> which works for long filenames but is exactly what I wanted to avoid with the
> fstab method.
>
> What I would like is to be able to type 'mount /mnt/floppy' and mount as VFAT
> (when appropriate), as well as ext2, HFS, etc. seamlessly with this short
> command by any user at that same mountpoint (vs having a separate /mnt/vfat or
> whatever). Is this even possible? If it matters /proc/filesystems is:
>
> ext2
> msdos
> vfat
> nodev proc
> nodev nfs
> nodev smbfs
> iso9660
> hfs
> nodev autofs
>
> Is this a factor? Does mount use this ordering for fs detection? If so can
> VFAT be moved ahead of MSDOS?
>
> Any advice, wisdom, lectures, songs, chants would be greatly appreciated...
>
> -G.B.Smith
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:38:52 +0100
From: Gruppo Aeromodellisti Lugano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux RedHat 5.2 or SuSE 5.3 ?
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> > I'm a novice with Linux and I'd like to install it on my PC.
> > I found SuSE 5.3 GPL on 1 CD for 2.75 euros and RedHat 5.2 GPL on 2 CD for 5.35
> > euros. (I've not enough money to buy an official version, but I suppose there i
> > s not significant differences between GPL and official version).
>
> This is a religious question but I'll tell you what my faith is: SuSE
> 5.3
> > I have a Pentium 100 and my graphic card is a SiS 5597/8. I have heard that the
> > support for this graphic chip is not included in the RH version, but there is a
> > package to support it.
> > Moreover, I'd like to install it from my hard-disk (I have no CD-ROM drive, and
> > a friend can copy the CD-ROM on my hard disk in a FAT partition)
> >
> > Which one is the best distribution to begin with Linux ?
> >
>
> SuSE is easier to use (especially with the KDE 1.0 GUI front end) than
> RH, which doesn't use KDE. Also, YaST (Yet another System Tool) is a
> complete program or system installer and uninstaller, or a system
> changer. Works like a charm.
> Your real problem will be trying to install it from the DOS partition.
> I don't know of a way to do that but I'll bet there is a genius reading
> this thread that does. What I would do would create a boot diskette
> (rawrite.exe) and go from there. You will need at least 800MB to make
> an interesting installation.
I can't agree completely with your "religious comments" about the ease
of use. Linux is DIFFICULT to install & configure, but once it is
running one will quickly forget the limitations of M$ systems. The
problem IS getting it to run correctly (no matter if you use SuSe or RH,
I use RH).
RH also includes KDE 1.0 in his latest contrib tree (already with rpm
support) and insalling the GUI is a breeze, and quite easy, too. RH5.2
includes Linuxconf, which (I am told) is quite similar to YaST and
manages everything, from filesystems to ppp connection. Moreover the
package administration program "glint" is easy to use and pretty
powerful.
If you really are concerned about the installation I would wait until
the SuSE 6.0 is available (with english manuals, the german edition is
already there). It promises to be the easiest linux around.
- Fabrizio
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:41:22 +0100
From: Gruppo Aeromodellisti Lugano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Mouse Autoraise in Red Hat
"Vivek Shanmuganathan (95410006-BS)" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have installed redhat linux 5.1
>
> I have also loaded X Windows (fvwm). But, I have not been able to enable the
> window-autoraise option from the menu items one gets by clicking the right
> mouse button and choosing Preferences/Autoraise.
>
> I have even treid restarting fvwm. But, it does not seem to work.
>
> Pl help.
>
> Vivek...
I had the same problem under AfterStep, then finally "upgraded" to KDE
1.1 and mouse autoraise was no more a problem...
http://www.kde.org/
I don't know if there is the possibility to fix this behaviour under
fvwm, but I think it is, so keep asking!
- Fabrizio
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From: Tim Pickrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot open root device 08:07
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:22:02 +0000
Need help getting a scsi kernel to build.
Built a kernel for scsi on Caldera 1.3
boot partition is /dev/sda7
When machine comes up I get message:
VFS: Cannot opne root device 08:07
kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:07
Default kernel works.
Any suggestions?
Regards.
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links Again
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:33:54 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alistair Hamilton wrote:
>
> Hello Folks.
>
> Thanks for all of the discussion on this topic. However, I am still a
> bit puzzled about the nature (as opposed to the nomenclature) that now
> attaches to links.
>
> We used to have i-nodes that were controlled in kernel land. The
> kernel kept a count of links to an i-node and deleted anything that
> had zero (or less ;-) links to it.
>
> Now, in modern-day Unix/Linux, what happens if there are zero (or
> less) hard links to an i-node but one (or more) soft links to it? Does
> the kernel zap the node, leaving some rather useless soft links, or
> does it keep the node?
>
> I suppose that my real problem is in understanding why anyone thought
> that another type of link might be useful at all. I just cannot get
> why one might want to create a soft or a hard link to a node (in
> preference to the other type) at all. Just what do they offer and how
> are they different from hard links (or what I would just call links)?
>
> From my present aspect, the idea of soft links seems to have dragged
> the uniform and logical file (and other things) system I used to deal
> with years ago towards the rather ragged "real file and aliases"
> system that originated in MP/M and lives on in Win98/VFAT. Now,
> please, someone tell me why this is progress in the uniXverse!
>
> Regards,
> Alistair
> (Who is ever more enchanted by Linux each time I boot it and is
> looking forward to the day he can make my living while running it!)
I can think of a few reasons why I use soft links ...
1. I am a "newish-be" and certain abstractions are easier to ignore than
deal with. It is enough for me to know that hard links are possible.
Everything I need from a link can be done with a soft link (There may be
thngs that can only be done "hard", but I haven't met or needed them).
Thus, I only need to know soft links to operate functionally.
2. Links provide a mechanism of collecting various data. I use them for
my "intranet" web page where I have all the html documentation for all
applications soft linked in the httpdocs directory, and thus it makes
permissions easier to deal with in apache. Only need to give permission
on one directory tree, and the documentation is on seperate file
systems, /opt, /usr, /home, etc.
3. Colour, Colour, Colour ... I like the idea of a file having only one
location in the file system, and then the link reference the file. Thus,
I like to see the referencing (symlinks) in a different colour when I do
an ls. Hard links would have all the files in the same colour. This
makes it easier to control and understand where a file logically
belongs. (basic, isn't it ;-)
4. You can be guaranteed that deleting a symlink will not delete your
file.
5. I am unsure of how things like the /dev "files" work, but it is
really useful to throw symlinks around in there. I have /dev/modem,
/dev/mouse, then I run Sybase on "rawish" disk space, and it is
confusing in sybase to have it on /deb/sdc3, so I have symlinks
/dev/syb_data01, /dev/syb_logs01 /dev/syb_tempdb01, etc, and in Sybase
the segments are based on this, and I find this level of abstraction
easier to deal with. BTW, can you hard link /dev/<device>?
6. Directories ... you can't/shouldn't hardlink directories.
7. You can make certain applications behave differently depending on
symlinks. apache, tar, cp, etc., and some applications follow sym links,
others don't, and each has particular relevance. Having symlinks gives
more opportunity for control than just hard links.
Hope that adds a bit.
gus
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ps aux oddity
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:40:17 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Wall wrote:
>
> I'm running RedHat 5.1 on Intel.
>
> If I run the command 'ps aux' by itself, I get a full list of processes
> running including the user account it is running under, including a list of
> httpd processes (as I'd expect), with the process file listed as
> /usr/local/apache133/sbin/httpd.
>
> If I run the command 'ps aux | grep httpd' I get nothing.
>
> If I run the command 'ps aux | grep -v httpd' I see that the process file is
> listed only as /usr/local/apache133/ and has truncated the 'sbin/httpd'
> part, which is why grep can't find it.
>
> The same will happen if I redirect 'ps aux > TT' the file will contain
> truncated output. It seems that ps is doing something odd and using a
> shorter "record length" (80 characters!) when it's being redirected.
>
> Any ideas on how to resolve this?
>
> Thanks,
> David
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does strike me as odd as well, but try the "w" flag to ps, so it becomes
ps auxw. I think that each w adds 80 chars to the outpur of each line,
if there are those 80 chars.
Just a thought
gus
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