Linux-Misc Digest #807, Volume #27                Tue, 8 May 01 06:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse (Leonard Evens)
  cdrecord only works with SCSI drives? (Ryan Joseph)
  Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse (Robert Heller)
  Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse (Joe)
  Re: cdrecord only works with SCSI drives? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: CVS pserver ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: simple ownership and permission question (David)
  Re: How come... ("Eric")
  Re: database (Jef Peeraer)
  Re: recycling XF86Config (michael james obrien)
  Re: Sun Solaris IPC (Andrew Gabriel)
  disk images (Oliver Vecernik)
  A little Help ("Ryan")
  Re: time adjustment (Hilton Gibson)
  Re: PCMCIA failure after upgrade 2.4.3-ac7 -> 2.4.4 ("Martin.Knoblauch")
  NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 8 May 2001 Linux Society General Meeting: Ruth Shanen introduces 
GNU/Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: disk images ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: RedHat 6.1 Initrd? (John Thompson)
  Floppy disk setup to install custom MBR: etherboot + lilo 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 23:02:29 -0500

Continuing with a previously reported problem, I can't get
the mouse to work in RH7.1 installed on a Winbook XL.  If
gpm runs, everything freezes, including the keyboard, as soon
as I login.   I can't get the mouse in X to work.   This same machine
worked fine in every version of RedHat up to and including RH7.0.

I assume there is some hardware incompatibility with the current driver.

I guess it is remotely possible there is something wrong with
the CD (from a fresh RedHat boxed package).   

Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Ryan Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cdrecord only works with SCSI drives?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:40:27 -0400

Hello!

I recently bought an HP 9100 series cd-rw which connects via IDE.  Now, when 
I
downloaded cdrecord and a bunch of different front-ends, all of them (the 
front
ends) reported that they couldn't open '/dev/pg0' and then said something 
about
SCSI drives!

I thought that cdrecord was supposed to work with almost all types of 
ATAPI/IDE
drives as well - or did I just misread somewhere?

Thanks for the help!

R.Joseph


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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse
Date: 8 May 2001 05:08:45 GMT

  Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Mon, 07 May 2001 23:02:29 -0500, wrote :

LE> Continuing with a previously reported problem, I can't get
LE> the mouse to work in RH7.1 installed on a Winbook XL.  If
LE> gpm runs, everything freezes, including the keyboard, as soon
LE> as I login.   I can't get the mouse in X to work.   This same machine
LE> worked fine in every version of RedHat up to and including RH7.0.

What happens if you take gpm out (login single user and get rid of
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S*gpm and /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S*gpm and continue up to
runlevel 3 (or 5)?  I have found gpmd to be flakey sometimes.  If you
are going to be using X most of the time, there is little need to bother
even installing gpm...

LE> 
LE> I assume there is some hardware incompatibility with the current driver.
LE> 
LE> I guess it is remotely possible there is something wrong with
LE> the CD (from a fresh RedHat boxed package).   
LE> 
LE> Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?
LE> 
LE> -- 
LE> 
LE> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
LE> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
LE>                                                                             






                                                                                  
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From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 01:26:08 -0400

Hi,

I was going through the RH 7.1 updates on one of the mirror sites the other
day and noticed that they have issued mouseconfig-4.22-1.  You could try
updating and reconfiguring your mouse.

Just a thought,

Joe

Leonard Evens wrote:

> Continuing with a previously reported problem, I can't get
> the mouse to work in RH7.1 installed on a Winbook XL.  If
> gpm runs, everything freezes, including the keyboard, as soon
> as I login.   I can't get the mouse in X to work.   This same machine
> worked fine in every version of RedHat up to and including RH7.0.
>
> I assume there is some hardware incompatibility with the current driver.
>
> I guess it is remotely possible there is something wrong with
> the CD (from a fresh RedHat boxed package).
>
> Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrecord only works with SCSI drives?
Date: 8 May 2001 05:55:09 GMT

Ryan Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought that cdrecord was supposed to work with almost all types of 
> ATAPI/IDE drives as well - or did I just misread somewhere?

You must enable the SCSI emulation, this way your CDR will be seen
like a SCSI device. See the CD-Writing-HOWTO.

Davide

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CVS pserver ?
Date: 8 May 2001 05:58:19 GMT

Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How to setup CVS pserver in xinet ?

I'm not sure if Xinetd is the same of inetd, but in my system the
configuration is this:

cvspserver stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/cvs -f  
  --allow-root=/usr/local/cvsroot pserver

Note: all in one line (of course)

Davide


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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: simple ownership and permission question
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 16:34:17 +1000

TRY wrote:

> Kirk R. Wythers wrote ...
> 
>> I'm trying to set the permissions in a mounted dos directory (/dose). It
>> is owner and group root. I want to allow users to save downloads to a
>> subdirectory /dose/tmp.
>> 
>> I tried to chmod (as root). It doesnt have any affect. I also tried
>> chown, and chgrp, they both report "Operation not permitted" .
>> 
>> What am I missing here?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Kirk
> 
> 
> As DOS (i.e. FAT/VFAT) partitions do not hold any user information, they are
> collectively set for all files by the mount command. If you do not specify
> any options, the owner/group for all files are taken from the process (i.e.
> user) that runs the mount command.
> 
> The default behaviour can be changed with the following options: uid=UserID
> and gid=GroupID, like "mount -t vfat -o uid=100,gid=500 /dev/fd
> /mnt/floppy". Observe that uid= and gid= does not take user or group names
> (you cannot say uid=root). If you mount through fstab (like "mount
> /mnt/floppy"), you can specify the options in the fourth field of
> "/etc/fstab".
> 
>   /TRY

I have a similar problem trying to set up a user to access
  a Zip drive - any ideas on that - I just get a "Root mount
permission error"

Thanks

David


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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How come...
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:00:47 +0200

> How come until today, Linux (or in general Unix) still does not have the
> "undelete" feature?
>

Sure there is :

/home/a_user>touch a_file
/home/a_user>ls a_file
a_file
/home/a_user>rm a_file
deleting a_file
/home/a_user>ls a_file
ls: a_file: No such file or directory
/home/a_user>undelete a_file
undeleting "a_file"
/home/a_user>ls a_file
a_file
/home/a_user>

This is just a home made (un)delete.
You can easily maek one too. It's just a simple shell-script.
There are several scripts/programs that do the same, that you can
download from eg. freshmeat. (I made my own when I was just
learning to make shell-scripts) If you want my scripts, I can send them to
you.

Eric



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From: Jef Peeraer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: database
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:16:56 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Ying Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I need one database for our bioinformatics server on linux. Which free
> > one is the best?
> 
> There's no clear answer to that; various ones are quite good; there
> may be reasons to prefer some over others for particular purposes, but
> you've not suggested anything that looks at all like a criterion for
> this.
> 
> Commonly included with Linux distributions include Berkeley DB, GDBM,
> MySQL, PostgreSQL.
> 
> Others that are credible, but which require "some assembly" include
> Interbase and SAPDB.
> --
> (reverse (concatenate 'string "ac.notelrac.teneerf@" "454aa"))
> http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/resume.html
> "This is very  curious ... as if someone was eating  the wrong sort of
> mushrooms when they invented this sort of thing" -- Arthur Norman

To start with, MySql is only free for personal use, PostgreSql is as
free as it can be. It includes a lot of features even the big databases
can't handle ( like arrays as data-type ). Installs quite smootly. I use
it with PHP, but other interfaces are there as well ( C, Perl, Tcl/Tk ,
Python, etc ).


Jef

Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server 
and let the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (michael james obrien)
Subject: Re: recycling XF86Config
Date: 8 May 2001 01:01:14 GMT

wroot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,

: I tried FreeBSD and different distributions of Linux. On some (RH6.0, 6.2, 
: 7.0, Mandrake 7.0, 7.2) I could configure and enable X without a problem, 
: on others (several FreeBSDs and Debians as well as RH7.1 with the new X) I 
: couldn't get X to work no matter how hard I tried.

: I'm wondering if I could just reuse the XF86Config file from RH6.2 on  
: FreeBSD, Debian and RH7.1 on the same hardware.

You can try it.  If it doesn't work, ctrl-alt-backspace.  

Does the RH 7.1 install use XF86 4.x or a 3.x release?  That might be the 
only sticky point.

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Gabriel)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris IPC
Date: 8 May 2001 00:34:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        vardhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>The project is based on a Solaris platform (version unknown) running a
>SunOS (probably 5.6). I assume that the particular SunOS itself will be
>using a specific Unix IPC standard. Please correct me if I am wrong. My
>question is, in this case (Sun on Solaris) what are the options I have
>for IPC, and where do I get the information to made a comparative study
>most suitable for me? Specifically, where do I begin to get the
>information I need? I am quite comfortable with basic UNIX IPC and sytem
>calls.

If this is only for Solaris, don't forget doors - man door_create.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
Consultant Software Engineer


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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:39:56 +0200
From: Oliver Vecernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: disk images

Hi,

I'd like to make a disk image from a 3,5" floppy in MS-DOS format. How
can this be achieved in Linux?

Oliver

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From: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A little Help
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:58:19 GMT

Hello, I have to do a uni assignment on how the Linux Kernel conducts either
its

- Processes,
- Memory Management, or
- File Systems,

Maybe one of you gurus could reccomend which topic they think I should do,
and suggest maybe a URL where I could find the appropriate resources...
Only if you want to help that is!

Thankyou
Ryan



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From: Hilton Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time adjustment
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:16:33 +0200

wroot wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've heard that there are time servers or something that a UNIX system can
> connect to to adjust its clock. Is it true and is it possible to do it
> under Linux?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot

Yes there is.

Check out the "ntpd" service.

Use your man pages or look for a how-to.

www.google.com is good search engine - try the keywords ' network time
protocol linux '




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From: "Martin.Knoblauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: PCMCIA failure after upgrade 2.4.3-ac7 -> 2.4.4
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:07:26 +0200

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David Hinds wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.portable Martin.Knoblauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o: init_module: No
> > such device
> 
> Try reconfiguring with CardBus support enabled instead of i82365.
> Then use the yenta_socket module in place of i82365 as your socket
> driver.
> 
Dave,

 found out accidentially on my own. It indeed solves the problem. Seems
something between 2.4.3-ac9 and ac10/ac11 finally made i82365 useless
for CardBus.

 As you (or someone else) mentioned on the kernel list, both the
parameter names and the help text for them is kind of confusing.

Thanks anyway
Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 8 May 2001 Linux Society General Meeting: Ruth Shanen 
introduces GNU/Linux
Date: 8 May 2001 04:21:03 -0400

<blockquote>

            ======================================================
                      http://www.thelinuxsociety.org
             What:    The Linux Society General Meeting
             When:    Tuesday, May 8, 2001 at 6:15 pm (sharp!) to 8:30 pm
             Where:   The NYPC Office
                      Room 1560, floor 15
                      The New Yorker Hotel,
                      481 Eighth Avenue (at 34th Street)
                      Manhattan,  New York City
             Speaker: Ruth Shanen (The Linux Society)
             Topic:   Introduction to Linux
            ======================================================

                In an anniversary session of The Linux Society,
                one of its Founding -- I all but said Fathers! --
                Ruth Shanen will introduce the basic concepts
                of the operating system that we have all gathered
                around. Everybody is welcome!

                      ==================================

                            The Linux Society (TM)
                         http://www.thelinuxsociety.org
                      is a SIG of NYPC (http://www.nypc.org)
                      meeting monthly in mid-town Manhattan.
                  We hold a General Meeting each month on a topic of
                    interest to new or experienced LINUX users.
                  We also have a Linux Study Group in progress,
                        meeting  two evenings each month
                  All our meetings are free and open to all.
                  For more information please check our web site
                    or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            ========================================================

            Stefan Mashkevich

            Public Relations, The Linux Society

</blockquote>


Distributed poC TINC:

Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: disk images
Date: 8 May 2001 08:24:45 GMT

Oliver Vecernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to make a disk image from a 3,5" floppy in MS-DOS format. How
> can this be achieved in Linux?

dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/where/you/want/thenameyouwant -bs=8192

dd reads 'bytes', it does not care about the disk format.
Davide

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.1 Initrd?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:19:43 -0500

MoosE wrote:
 
> Can someone help me; I'm trying to remove the initrd startup from a
> RedHat 6.1 install, but I can't find the bloody file.  I deleted the
> image from /boot, removed the entry from lilo.conf, re-ran lilo-- and
> searched the whole harddrive for initrd* files, coming up with
> absolutely nothing.
> 
> Any ideas? (It STILL loads at startup!)

Re-configure your kernel without ramdisk support and recompile.

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Subject: Floppy disk setup to install custom MBR: etherboot + lilo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 08 May 2001 19:40:26 +1000

Hi All

I am trying to create a disk to automate a what at first seemed fairly
simple task.

I am trying to get a whole lot of machines to mount, via NFS, their
root, and boot from that. I have managed to have success using
etherboot with the image on a floppy. Now, I want to use an etherboot
"boot rom" on my hard drive instead of on a floppy. No problem, go to
www.rom-o-matic.net , and generate and download a lilo boot rom. Make
a lilo.conf file with an "image=/boot/boot.lzrom", reboot, works fine.

Now, the disk I am trying to create automatically boots up in these
(very old) machines. It is a very simple disk, and all I want it to do
is call lilo to install this boot rom in the MBR of my hard
drive. These drives are all <200M. Lilo can't detect their settings
(C/H/S), and so won't install a boot loader. So, what OTHER ways are
there of installing an MBR? I've tried dd'ing, "cat XX > /dev/hda",
and nothing seems to work. Does anybody understand where I am coming
from? I just want my etherboot rom in the MBR of my hard drive.

I have tried "cat hdload.bin.pre ne.lzrom > /dev/hda", but even THAT
doesn't work (hdload.bin.pre is the hard drive loader that comes with
etherboot).

If anyone can help me, please do!

FU2NG

Brett.
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