Linux-Misc Digest #806, Volume #18 Fri, 29 Jan 99 05:13:10 EST
Contents:
Xforms (Mark Robinson)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
[Q] RPM and can't open files (Mike Plemmons)
Re: Beowulf Anyone? ("Alain Coetmeur")
2 silly questions ("jdn")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Mark Ramos)
Re: [Q] Bogo mips shrinked!? ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks ("Keith G. Murphy")
Re: Access Novell Printers Under Linux (Conny)
Re: Help, ISP setup! (Kalevi Hautaniemi)
Re: [Q] RPM and can't open files ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Uninstalling a tarball application? (Villy Kruse)
OEM Linux (PILCH Hartmut)
Re: configuring mailx or pine (Villy Kruse)
Uninstalling a tarball application? ("jdn")
Re: 2 silly questions (Jeremy Nickolet)
Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10 (Bill Unruh)
Can printing from linux permanently change printer settings (Chetan Ahuja)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xforms
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:16:06 GMT
Where can I get the xforms library?
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:18:16 +1100
*Erk...!*
Apologies for the formatting of the text in my last message!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Plemmons)
Subject: [Q] RPM and can't open files
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:40:44 -0400
I have posted a message to redhat.rpm.general and I am waiting for an
answer there but I figure maybe someone here has had this problem.
I upgraded from RH 5.1 to RawHide 1.2.0 and now I am not able to use RPM
anymore. If I try to query a package here is the error I get:
mike~$ rpm -q gtk+-
cannot open file //var/lib/rpm/nameindex.rpm:
rpmQuery: rpmdbOpen() failed
If I try to install something I get this error message:
mike~& rpm -Uvh enlightenment-0.15.0-10.i386.rpm
cannot open file //var/lib/rpm/nameindex.rpm:
error: cannot open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm
The version of RPM that I am using now is 2.5.7. I have tried to rebuild
the rpm database with rpm --rebuilddb but I get and error about "can't
open file..." again.
The files are were they are supposed to be and they are chmod 644 in the
/var/lib/rpm directory. They are owned by root. I am running these
commands under root (not an su to root).
Anyone have any ideas??
I am running kernel 2.2.0
Thanks,
--
Mike Plemmons | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WebMaster Speech and Hearing Science
http://www.shs.ohio-state.edu
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From: "Alain Coetmeur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:29:24 +0100
A.R.Allen a �crit dans le message ...
>Is anyone here working on constructing a Beowulf System using Red Hat and
>the Beowulf software?
We've contacted a company (www.arkane-media.net)
that use redhat distribution and a few patches to
assemble configure and install a turnkey beowulf...
anyway I wille probably make small toy experiment
with an undergraduate student, so we master the technology.
thus I'm interested like you in such information.
try to join to the beowulf and extreme-linux mailing list
at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
subscribe beowulf-announce
subscribe beowulf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
subscribe extreme-linux-announce
subscribe extreme-linux
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From: "jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 silly questions
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:53:47 -0600
Technically, I think I am no longer a Linux newbie, given the amount of time
that I've been running it and the things I have learned to do with it, but I
keep coming to these rather basic questions, that I know I should know the
answers to, but don't....
1) In RedHat 5.1, I always used the X tool fstool to find the amount of
available space on my partitions. RedHat 5.2 seems to have gotten rid of
this tool. Bummer. Anyway, what's the CLI command to do the same thing?
Is it a certain switch for 'ls'?
2) How do you 'toggle' a file to be 'viewed' by Linux as an executable or
not? I have various files on my Windows partitions that I have which most
certainly are not executables (like configuration files), but they show up
in mc all nice and lime green. What's the command to remove this
'attribute' so that they aren't seen as executable?
TIA
jdn
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:24:13 +1100
G'day...
> I think it's impossible to define who invented the computer, since it's
> already hard to define what a computer is.
No... The definitions are easy, the perceived conceptualisations are what
confuses most.
The generic computer takes input, processes that information and produces
output, as well as having memory and some form of secondary storage.
The programmable loom (with punchcards), was the first machine that is generally
accepted to fit those specifications. Some may argue that the abacus was,
though.
All the best.
Michael.
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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:35:13 -0800
Bill Unruh wrote:
> In <78o1sr$plb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger) writes:
>
> ]But what about this scenario. If I make linux a printerver without
> ]any video card and I do a reboot of that box, I take it from this
>
> So stick in a video card. It;s 10$. you do not need a monitor or
> keyboard(depending on the BIOS, you can set them to ignore errors on
> boot). Now at some point you will need them since all machines come
> default with a certain configuration. But after you have configured it,
The point is not the money spent on a $10 video card. But it kind of looks
funny in an environment that, say are all Sun boxes and none of them have
keyboards/mice dangling and can be built/configured, etc. without any special
"work-arounds". Now we have this lowly PC that is the only one with a video
card. Why? because it will beep at you when you take it out. And why is this
the only system with a keyboard? Well because when you turn it on without a
keyboard it asks you to press "F1 to continue". Hmm. Well can I stick a
console to it and bypass that? nope. Maybe stick that $10 video card in there
temporarily to press F1 then take it out! Doesn't sound like a good solution
to me does it?
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: [Q] Bogo mips shrinked!?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:31:37 +1100
G'day...
> -------------
> Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 28.67 BogoMIPS
> -------------
>
> My bogo mips is about half of what it should be. :-(
> I feel it has become a bit slow.
Does your laptop have a turbo switch / turbo bios setting? This may be
the culprite.
All the best...
Michael.
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:34:50 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick Hilliard wrote:
>
> "Keith G. Murphy" wrote:
> > I didn't see any charts, or a specific reference to what you're saying.
> > I tried to go to one of the other pages linked to by that one, but it
> > didn't work. :-)
>
> This page?:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/misc/backstage/column_t2_1.htm
>
> This is the one with the pretty graphs to show how crap the www.microsoft.com
> uptime was and which also describes how flakey their back-end servers are.
>
> Personally, I'd be ashamed to publish results like that :-|
>
Thanks. I was getting so frustrated with the bad response time, I had
given up looking for the graphs.
What would be a comparable solution on a Linux or other Unixoid server
farm?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conny)
Subject: Re: Access Novell Printers Under Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:06:01 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Now comes a truly changelling question.
>
> I'm on a Novell Netware LAN with a shared printer that I want to access. How
> do I do this under Linux RH 5.1
>
> When I installed RH, I made sure to install the Netware access stuff, but I
> have no clue how to use it.
>
> -Jordan
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
HI ....
I�m using LINUX 5.2 from SuSE- hope solution is the same for Red Hats ...
ipx_configure --auto_primary=on --auto_interface=on
4secs waiting or giving individual terms with
ipx_interface ----
ipx_interface add -p eth0 802.2 or similar stuff ...
ncpmount -S DAHEIM -U SYSOP -n -V SYS /mnt/novell
DAHEIM is the name of Novell Server SYSOP is Username of active bindery context
(4.x Netware or just using 3.x) -n means no password SYS is Volume name
/mnt/novell is mount point.
oh .... into kernel --please bind IPX protocol - if not even done.
if lpd or similar stuff is correctly initialized then you can use
nprint
to get into netware queue
==================================
leave mount point directory then you have to ...
ncpumount /mnt/novell
before force any init ... logout etc.
=============
Hope i gave you enough hints to solve the problem .....
Conny the technician
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kalevi Hautaniemi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: Help, ISP setup!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:22:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
William Gross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,
: I need some help, please. I am running RedHat 5.2 on a a clone pc,
: and I am trying to connect to my ISP which is called Integrity Online.
To help us to find out what's wrong, please post the output of 'route -n'
and 'ifconfig' commands while your unusable link is up.
Kalevi
--
Kalevi J Hautaniemi, Kovajankatu 5, 33530 Tampere, FINLAND.
**** http://oh3tr.ele.tut.fi/~oh3fg/ **** On air: OH3FG, KO4BC ****
tel:+358-3-364-7446 mobile:+358-50-590-2243 or +358-50-033-5447
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] RPM and can't open files
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:42:20 +1100
G'day...
> mike~$ rpm -q gtk+-
> cannot open file //var/lib/rpm/nameindex.rpm:
> rpmQuery: rpmdbOpen() failed
Are you sure you are root with the $ prompt? =)
> If I try to install something I get this error message:
>
> mike~& rpm -Uvh enlightenment-0.15.0-10.i386.rpm
> cannot open file //var/lib/rpm/nameindex.rpm:
> error: cannot open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm
Either you need to rebuild the db or you have your permissions screwed
up....
> The version of RPM that I am using now is 2.5.7. I have tried to rebuild
> the rpm database with rpm --rebuilddb but I get and error about "can't
> open file..." again.
>
> The files are were they are supposed to be and they are chmod 644 in the
> /var/lib/rpm directory. They are owned by root. I am running these
> commands under root (not an su to root).
I don't suggest you chmod files that don't need to be - leave them according
to what they were from the distribution.
This is your most likely culprit. (Were they supposed to be chown'ed to
root, or was another (su) id needed?)
To get the setting correct (as in my version):
su or login as root
cd /var/lib
chmod a+r rpm
chmod a-w rpm
chmod a+x rpm
chmod u+w rpm
cd rpm
chmod a-w *
chmod a-x *
chmod a+r *
chmod u+w *
Should have things working... (Now try to rpm --rebuildb as root)
Also, are you using the latest stable rpm version?
All the best...
Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Uninstalling a tarball application?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:50:54 +0100
In article <78rq1h$mmo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I tend to like to try out various applications, and often ones that I know I
>probably won't use on a regular basis, but just want to see what they are
>like.
>
>Anyway, suppose I've come to my senses and decide to get rid of some of
>these applications to free up disk space. Is there a basic procedure to do
>this, or is it more of a "hunt down and kill" process? Obviously, with
>RedHat, you just uninstall the RPM. Is there anything similar with tar.gz
>installs?
>
The only thing you could do if the tarball doesn't include an uninstall
script is to get a list of files in the tar archive and go from there.
An uninstall script ought to be mandatory for every tarball package.
Villy
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Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PILCH Hartmut)
Subject: OEM Linux
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:17:21 GMT
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I agree. If someone put time into developing a linux distribution
>> designed for OEMs to tune to specific hardware setups, and then was
>> preinstalled on a computer, it would be just the same as windows.
>Yes somebody better should do that. Perhaps something that looks like
>the kickstart installation options of RedHat Linux or S.u.S.E Linux.
>If anybody were to develop a Linux distribution that would offer
>something like those two Windows vendors do, Linux would be off to a
>raging success.
The German vendor chain ComTech has been preinstalling Linux for over a year
now, and they do it manually, using only an outdated version of SuSE. Some
people in Munich have been planning to develop an OEM Linux distribution but
somehow never got down to doing it.
>As it is, we have to just grit the teeth and wait. And suffer
>computers like the Cobalt Qube and the Corel Netwinder to come
>preinstalled only with Windows.
Is this reality now?
--
Hartmut Pilch
http://www.a2e.de/phm/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: configuring mailx or pine
Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:47:49 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can get mail from my ISP using netscape (on my redhat 5.1 box) but how
>do I configure my system to use mailx or pine for my ISP mail?
>Thanks,
>
>
You can configure pine to use the pop3 server on your ISP. mailx AKA Mail
need the mail to be move to the local mailbox before you can access it.
The mail box is referred to as {isp.pop3.com/pop3}INBOX
Villy
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From: "jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uninstalling a tarball application?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:04:18 -0600
I tend to like to try out various applications, and often ones that I know I
probably won't use on a regular basis, but just want to see what they are
like.
Anyway, suppose I've come to my senses and decide to get rid of some of
these applications to free up disk space. Is there a basic procedure to do
this, or is it more of a "hunt down and kill" process? Obviously, with
RedHat, you just uninstall the RPM. Is there anything similar with tar.gz
installs?
TIA
jdn
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From: Jeremy Nickolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 silly questions
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:54:28 GMT
jdn wrote:
> Technically, I think I am no longer a Linux newbie, given the amount of time
> that I've been running it and the things I have learned to do with it, but I
> keep coming to these rather basic questions, that I know I should know the
> answers to, but don't....
>
> 1) In RedHat 5.1, I always used the X tool fstool to find the amount of
> available space on my partitions. RedHat 5.2 seems to have gotten rid of
> this tool. Bummer. Anyway, what's the CLI command to do the same thing?
> Is it a certain switch for 'ls'?
Here is what you are looking for:
$df
or to show results in MB
$df -h
>
>
> 2) How do you 'toggle' a file to be 'viewed' by Linux as an executable or
> not? I have various files on my Windows partitions that I have which most
> certainly are not executables (like configuration files), but they show up
> in mc all nice and lime green. What's the command to remove this
> 'attribute' so that they aren't seen as executable?
>
Use "chmod", there are many options for it, read the man file. But here is a
pretty good starting place for the different options:
http://gulf.uvic.ca/~labspg/Reference/UNIX_overview.html
Jeremy
>
> TIA
>
> jdn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.protocols.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10
Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:45:34 GMT
In <78pjaf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson) writes:
>>Most ISPs do NOT want you to do that if you're using PPP. Instead,
>>they want you to just dial in and start using PPP, since that's what
>>Windoze does. If you start chatting a user name at them, then they'll
>>usually assume you don't speak PPP.
BoISP'a are all over the place on what they want you to do to log on.
PPP was supposed to have an advantage over slip in making configuration
easy. However this has been negated by the variety of user authorisation
procedures.
login first, ppp automatic
login first then run ppp
login first then run pppd
All of the above and then have ppp use PAP authorisation or CHAP
authorisation
And each ISP has a different prompt for logging in
login: password:
Login: Password:
Username: Password:
Username: Secret:
...
And then there are those who demand that ppp be run right after the
connection is made.
No wonder users tear their hair out.
B
B
B
B
B
>Apparently all livingston portmasters have been wiped off the face of
>the earth from this statements about most ISPs. Muy ISP uses
>livingston portmasters and the appropiate chat-up line is
><dail up my ISP with AT commands>
>ogin: me
>ssword: secret
>and then hit PPP mode. Demon internet, the largest ISP in the UK, wants
><dail up demon internet with AT commands>
>oign: you
>ssword: password
>ocol: ppp
>and then hit PPP mode. At one time my ISP wanted you to authenticate
>yourself with PAP after seeing the connect message. Windows has its
>own equivilent of chat but it is more interactive, disguised and less
>well documented. Personally I could all 3 as disadvantages---requiring
>me to bring up a terminal windows and retype my name and ssword every
>time I connect is a pain.
>Duncan (-:
>--
>Duncan (-:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: Can printing from linux permanently change printer settings
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:02:34 GMT
Hi,
I (possibly) have a strange problem. I have a fujitsu 10PPV printer which is
connected to a Win95 machine on my little home network. On my main linux machine,
I am running samba and am printing to the laser printer through samba. So far I
have printed a few postscript pages and text pages. I have also had to turn on
the "send EOF" option to get the pages out of the printer. But all that is Ok now.
Now here's the strangenes... My wife who uses the Win95 machine to type stuff
and print from Microsoft Word. These days she is working on her thesis which
involves a lot of repeated printing of drafts. Suddenly she finds that in her
print-outs, some numbers ( which were in bold BTW) are being printed a little higher
than the rest of the test ... e.g. if she has the ( pseudo marked up) text:
fig <b>3</b>
the bold '3' prints sort of half way to the superscript position ( keeping the same
font size ). This did not happen in the previous printouts of the same text.
Now it could very well be a Word wierdness but I would like to know whether
it is possible to permanently change the printer settings using the PCL drivers of
ghostscript or in any other way, printing from linux. And if so, what can I do
to make sure that every time I print from my machine, it resets the original settings
after printing is finished.... Any hints or pointers will be appreciated...
Thanks
Chetan
--
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:53:55 +1100
G'day...
> > (After all, where do you think all your hardware comes from - almost all
> >
> > hardware is developed and manufactured in Asia.) In fact, if it wasn't
> > for Asia,
> > modern computing would incredibly *far behind* what it is today.
[...]
> I'm sorry but the only reason asia has the technology is because we
> sent it over there because labor was cheaper. And yes it did help
> modern computing leap ahead. Only because of lower prices.
> I bought 4K YES 4K of memory in 1977 made in USA by TI for $700.00
> Today from asia I can get 64MB PC100 for under $100.
No, thats not quite right. Not only was it cheaper, but also better and
produced faster and as time went on with further and further surpassing
quality - and by Asian companies rather than US ones.
Intel couldn't keep up. That's why they specialise in CPU's now, not memory
(what they used to specialise in). The Intel engineers couldn't understand
how come their foreign counterparts produced better memory faster. (You can
read about this in Andrew Grove's book).
If you dismiss Asia in such a manner - then one can just as easily dismiss
all US innovations due to what the US received externally.
All the best...
Michael.
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:59:41 +1100
G'day...
> In fact it is being built right now in Europe somewhere. Read about
> it
> in the Economist magazine.
>
> -Dan
>
> William Wueppelmann wrote:
> > Some consider Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine to be
> > the first computer (England, c.1870), though I don't think it was
> ever built.
It was actually built - but it didn't work at the time. This was due to
the fact that the precision of mechanical engineering at the time wasn't
of a high enough standard. The design was ahead of its time.
(The parts couldn't fit together well enough and the machine would lock
up.)
All the best.
Michael.
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