Linux-Misc Digest #818, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 02:13:16 EST
Contents:
Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me (Bill Unruh)
Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat) (Christoffer Vollmer)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Uninstalling a tarball application? ("jdn")
Re: How can i use this ("Wael Sedky")
Re: Antivirus ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Unable to mount cdrom
Re: Changing Display settings ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Firewall? ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: configuring mailx or pine (Wowix)
Re: COM for Linux? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Chris)
Re: how do you dial a modem from the server prompt (Wowix)
HELP! Messed up MBR (Steve Sanyal)
Q: Nedit doesn't recognize ctlr-keys (Anton Dischner)
A problem with bringing system up-to-date (what's __bzero?) ("Marius Gedminas")
Re: LILO + shutdown questions (Tim)
Re: Bratislava - looking for C++ programmer ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: LILO + shutdown questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Jeff Smith")
Re: statistical analysis software? (Bill Simpson)
Re: 2 silly questions (David Spacey)
CPU-Idle saves Energy? (Eric Wick)
Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86 (Robert A. Wicks)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:16:42 GMT
In <SPbs2.1186$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Neil D. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Thanks for the help Bill, I have gotten one step further. New error msg.
You still do not seem to have switched on debug for your pppd.
Please put the line
debug
into the file
/etc/ppp/options
to give you more clues.
And PLESE switch off the HTML generation in your news poster
(netscape?)
]Jan 28 22:33:54 localhost chat[1006]: send (^M)
]Jan 28 22:33:54 localhost chat[1006]: send (^M)
]Jan 28 22:33:54 localhost pppd[988]: Serial connection established.
]Jan 28 22:33:55 localhost pppd[988]: Using interface ppp0
]Jan 28 22:33:55 localhost pppd[988]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua0
]Jan 28 22:34:28 localhost pppd[988]: IPCP: timeout sending =
]Config-Requests
]Jan 28 22:34:28 localhost pppd[988]: Connection terminated.
]Jan 28 22:34:29 localhost pppd[988]: Exit.
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From: Christoffer Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:05:52 +0100
=2E.Don=B4t know really, i=B4ve never had Windows and Linux coexisting
on the same computer, so I=B4m not very familiar with lilo.conf,
but something tells me that you have to add a "root=3D/dev/hdXX" =
for the Win98 setup aswell, otherwise it doesn=B4t know which =
partition to boot Win98 from.
Rgds,
Chrille.
Felix Lam wrote:
> =
> hi there,
> =
> As a newbie in Linux, I tried installing redhat 5.1 on the
> Sony Vaio 505 notebook. After days and nights, it finally
> installed ... :)
> =
> The problem now is with booting my linux kernel. Booting
> off disk is fine, but no luck with lilo. When I went thru the
> step of setting up lilo during installation, it always reported
> "an error has happened ..." and I eventually aborted this step.
> =
> I have fiddled with my /etc/lilo.conf file but with no luck.
> It always boot straight into win98 instead. When I run /sbin/lilo
> , it always return
> =
> Added Linux *
> Partition entry not found.
> =
> Here is a copy of my lilo.conf
> =
> boot=3D/dev/hda
> map=3D/boot/map
> prompt
> timeout=3D50
> image=3D/boot/vmlinuz
> label=3Dlinux
> root=3D/dev/hda5
> read-only
> other=3D/dev/hda1
> label=3Dwin98
> table=3D/dev/hda
> =
> Thanks a lot in advance. It has been bugging me many nights now ... :(
> =
> P.S. When I run fdisk in Linux, it reports "unknown" type for my win98
> partition, will this have anything with this problem??
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:07:29 +1100
Mike Werner wrote:
> Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus wrote:
> > The US military must recruit from US nationals. The reason for this
> > should be
> > fairly obvious.
>
> Care to lay odds on that? If so, I'll see if I still have the addreses
> of some of the folks I served with while in the US Navy. I do remember
> that at least one was from the Subic Bay area of the Philippines. I
> believe the others were from down around Manila. But they each were
> still citizens of the Philippines, not the US.
And for the purposes and context of this discussion? =)
You think any nation would have foreigners running and working for their
intelligence and defense organisations? (In your case DoD, etc.)
All the best...
Michael.
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:49:26 +1100
G'day...
> > (The parts couldn't fit together well enough and the machine would lock
> > up.)
>
> Ahhh - just like Windows on Intel. :}
Heheh... not quite... Babbage engine was *ahead* of its time and well
designed. (It wasn't the designers thought it was the manufacturers...)
Windows on the other hand wasn't/isn't well designed. =)
All the best...
Michael.
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From: "jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uninstalling a tarball application?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:53:57 -0600
Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:78rspe$5ef$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>In article <78rq1h$mmo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>jdn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I tend to like to try out various applications, and often ones that I know
I
>>probably won't use on a regular basis, but just want to see what they are
>>like.
>>
>>Anyway, suppose I've come to my senses and decide to get rid of some of
>>these applications to free up disk space. Is there a basic procedure to
do
>>this, or is it more of a "hunt down and kill" process? Obviously, with
>>RedHat, you just uninstall the RPM. Is there anything similar with tar.gz
>>installs?
>>
>
>
>The only thing you could do if the tarball doesn't include an uninstall
>script is to get a list of files in the tar archive and go from there.
>An uninstall script ought to be mandatory for every tarball package.
>
>
>
>Villy
I figured that might be the case, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the
confirmation.
jdn
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: How can i use this
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:58:03 -0800
Alex,
Thank you very very very much. I have been working on this for over two
months with no luck. I can't imagine it is so simple. It took me 1 minute to
get on the net.
Thanks again
>Have you used the pppsetup command as root? It should take you through
>all the steps. The howto's are good, but not always Slackware specific
>:(
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Alex Harford Alcohol and calculus don't mix.
>http://www.dowco.com/~alexh Don't drink and derive.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Antivirus
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:12:59 +1100
G'day Tim and all...
> I have McAfee VirusScan on my Win95 partition and was upgrading it the other
> day. There are versions for Win xx, Dos, Os/2, etc, but also for Linux,
> Solaris, and I think some other Uni. I wonder what that is all about.
Ok... =)
UN*X boxes are often servers on a network. Using McAfee will check the Dos, MS
Win, etc machines and files on the network. (And the files it servers, eg Word
Macro viruses.)
All the best.
Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Unable to mount cdrom
Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:37:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are you doing this as root, or as a user? Try it as root and if it works,
you just need to set it up so users can mount it. Can you post the
contents of the /etc/fstab file?
Doug ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: From control; panel there is a mouinting tool i click on nount cdrom??
: I used commsand s tooZ:
: cd/mnt/cdrom
: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
: cd/mnt/cdrom
: ????
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing Display settings
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:37:00 +1100
G'day...
> Hello new to Linux, I have configured my monitor during setup
> 800x600.. everything works fine but would like to change to 1024x768
> how do you do this???
Xconfigurator or XF86Config or xf86config (as root).
If you are using redhat your best option is to run setup or Xconfigurator
(as root).
All the best.
Michael.
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:44:35 +1100
G'day...
> > You think any nation would have foreigners running and working for their
> > intelligence and defense organisations? (In your case DoD, etc.)
>
> yes. the US will happily draft resident aliens in case of a war.
Again for the point of the discussion this is pointless. (For one thing,
AFAIK it hasn't been a factor in past developments and secondly they are
residents.)
All the best... =)
Michael.
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Firewall?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:45:08 +1100
Stefan Pommerening wrote:
> You'll have to recompile the kernel with firewall support
> tuned in. The use ipfwadm for configuration.
Not using RedHat! =)
With modules there is no real great need to recompile kernels anymore.
All the best.
Michael.
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:20:07 +0800
From: Wowix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: configuring mailx or pine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I can get mail from my ISP using netscape (on my redhat 5.1 box) but how
> do I configure my system to use mailx or pine for my ISP mail?
> Thanks,
You need a program to get your email from your ISP...which I recommend...
fetchmail.. Then fetchmail will move it to your local mailbox..then after
that use pine to read your e-mail.......
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: COM for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 06:19:15 GMT
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:46:07 GMT, Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:11:43 -0400, Aaron Perrin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Does anyone know if a Component Object Model (COM) port is available for
>>linux?
>>If not, is any group or company planning or developing such a port?
>>
>>I'd like to work on some applications for linux that would utilize
>>distributed COM
>>components, and I want to know if this is possible.
>
>Microsoft has released a version for "toy" use.
>
>See:
><"http://www.sagus.com/prod-i~1/net-comp/dcom/dcom-avail.htm">
><"http://www.sagus.com/prod-i~1/net-comp/dcom/linuxbeta.htm">
><"http://www.softwareag.com/corporat/solutions/entirex/entirex.htm">
>
>There is *ZERO* interest in actually using this for anything important,
>as this is the sort of thing whose adoption puts any applications built
>into a forcible dependancy on Microsoft's good graces. Licensing the
>applications for release outside your site would require licensing COM
>for Linux from MSFT, and that is something that I wouldn't trust enough
>to spend a single *hour* of my time on on coding.
Note that only the last of those three URLs is still active...
Note that the Linux DCOM FAQ
<http://softworksltd.com/dcomlinuxfaq.html> asks the following:
"1.7 Should I get involved in DCOM for Linux/UNIX?
DCOM for Linux has been released by Software AG but without
support. So production use is out of the question. However, it works
pretty well for purposes of evaluating the technology and developing
proof of concept programs. DCOM for UNIX won't hit full stride for
several years but its feasible to start the evaluation process
now. More maturity and a killer app is needed for widespread
acceptance. My guess is that distributed computing will get a kick
start when Netscape releases a CORBA enabled version of
Navigator. That will peak interest.
2.0 Where can I get DCOM for Linux?
DCOM for Linux runtime, SDK, examples and documentation are available
for free from Software AG. However, Software AG doesn't provide any
support for DCOM for Linux, neither for free nor for pay. Your best
chance for support is from the dcomunix email discussion list
mentioned above."
When considering whether to use DCOM, consider:
a) It is completely unsupported.
b) There are no promises to fix bugs.
c) A number of problems with running DCOM are noted in the
documentation; seems to reflect the pathological MS problem of things
not working well, and for no particularly good reason.
d) Note the "won't hit full stride for several years" comment.
e) Note that they suggest that CORBA is likely to result in people
getting interested in distributed computing. Which begs the question:
Why not use CORBA instead.
f) "That will peak interest." The word that they probably wanted to
use was "pique." If something "peaks" interest, that means that
interest has reached its high point, and is about to go into decline.
I expect that interest has already "peaked."
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to Linux today?..."
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:19:46 -0600
> (After all, where do you think all your hardware comes from - almost all
>
> hardware is developed and manufactured in Asia.) In fact, if it wasn't
> for Asia,
> modern computing would incredibly *far behind* what it is today.
>
> All the best...
>
> Michael.
I'm sorry but the only reason asia has the technology is because we
sent it over there because labor was cheaper. And yes it did help
modern computing leap ahead. Only because of lower prices.
I bought 4K YES 4K of memory in 1977 made in USA by TI for $700.00
Today from asia I can get 64MB PC100 for under $100.
Chris
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:25:55 +0800
From: Wowix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do you dial a modem from the server prompt
try to echo the INIT string first....what do you think?
Daddy Rabbit wrote:
> In my DOS days I use to dial the modem from the prompt. I have tried
> that from the linux prompt but other than the modem light flickering,
> nothing happens. Is there a secret to dialing out from the server
> prompt? Here is the command line entry I used.
>
> echo atdt1234567 >/dev/ttyS1
>
> Note: mgetty is living and working well on this same system.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Jim
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From: Steve Sanyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP! Messed up MBR
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:18:44 GMT
I've made a terrible error, it seems.
I usually load Linux from disk. It resides on my secondary hard drive,
whereas DOS and Windows NT reside on my first drive.
When I have tried to write LILO to the MBR, it has never worked, but
this time, but I was reinstalling Linux, and it accidentally overwrote
the MBR.
I've mounted my C: drive, which is a DOS drive, and I've gone in there
to see if I could find anything. There is a boot.ini file there from
linux. However, here are my problems:
I cannot access Win NT, since it resides on my NTFS, a Non-dos partition
on my primary hard disk.
LILO, which is on the MBR does not appear to be working now either, but
I can boot Linux from a disk.
Is there a way I can fix this, without losing all my information? I was
also foolish enough not to create a Windows NT rescue disk.
HELP!
Steve
PS: please reply by email if possible.
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From: Anton Dischner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Nedit doesn't recognize ctlr-keys
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:37:02 +0100
Hi netters,
i upgraded from SuSE Linux 5.3 to 6.0.
Now my nedit 5.0.2 doesnt save when i press ctrl-s.
When i press ctrl-f i get <ack>.
ctrl-q gives <dc1>
Any clues ?
Kind regards,
Toni
PS: I use german system-settings.
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From: "Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A problem with bringing system up-to-date (what's __bzero?)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:37:33 +0100
I want to install kernel 2.2.0 (actually, 2.2.1 after I download the patch),
but I have a problem.
If I upgrade net-tools to 1.49 or util-linux to 2.9, they start complaining:
Error loading shared libraries
: __bzero not defined
(this is not 100% exact error message, but I recall that the names of the
program
and of the shared library were not specified).
I've already upgraded my glibc to 2.0.7 (rpm package from
rawhide.redhat.com) and
ld.so to 1.9.9 (but this one is only for a.out executables, right?
ld-linux.so is version 2.0.7)
I've found the symbol __bzero in the executables of net-tools and
util-linux, but grepping
for it in all /lib and /usr/lib files found no occurrences. (ldd on the
problem causing executable
shows no other libraries but libc.6 and ld-linux.2 anyway). And yes, I've
run ldconfig. Several
times. ;)
BTW modutils-2.1.121 seem to have the same problem, although I refrained
from installing them
after finding seeing __bzimage in them
My current distribution is (somewhat upgraded) Red Hat 5.0 with 2.0.36
kernel. I need the 2.2.x
mostly for Xvfb for my unsupported S3 Trio3D card.
P.S. A cc: by mail would be nice although not needed very much.
--
Marius Gedminas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO + shutdown questions
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:43:21 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I guess you must run LILO after you made changes to the lilo.conf file.
Yes; any time you change *any* aspect of lilo's boot procedure, including
recompiling the kernel or changing the default OS to boot to, etc, you *must* run
lilo for the changes to take effect.
Tim
Remove NOSPAM to mail me...
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bratislava - looking for C++ programmer
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:25:49 +1100
(In English - auf englisch)
G'day...
Your posting is unlikely to produce a response and may be considered quite rude.
=)
Firstly, you are asking for MS Windows C++ programmers/developers in a Linux
newsgroup. (People have died for less.) ;)
Secondly, you have asked in German rather than english.
I suggest that you ask this question in a german newsgroup (de.*), which is for
C++ or C++ under MS Windows.
All the best,
Michael.
(In german - auf deutsche - here goes, wish me luck)
Hallo,
Ihre Eintragung ist unwahrscheinlich, eine Antwort zu produzieren und kann
ziemlich als rude. =)
Erstens bitten Sie um MS Windows C++ programmers/developers in einem newsgroup
Linux. (Leute sind f�r kleiner. gestorben),
Zweitens haben Sie auf Deutsches anstatt Englisch gefragt
Ich schlage, da� Sie diese Frage in einem deutschen newsgroup vorstellen (de.*),
welches f�r C++ oder C++
unter MS Windows ist.
Ich schlage, da� Sie diese Frage in einem deutschen newsgroupde stellen. * vor,
welches f�r C++
oder C++ unter MS Windows ist.
Alles beste...
Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO + shutdown questions
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:33:28 +0100
David Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
hi,
> I want to change the default in lilo.conf
> I need to default to DO$ until my kids get comfortable running Linux
> (RedHat 5.2). The changes I make to lilo.conf do not seem to have an
> affect on the boot. I've tried changing the wait time, but regardless
> of what I set it to it will always stay up for about 3 seconds.
> I am assuming that I am missing some very basic principle here.
> Also I want users to be able to shutdown the system, but even when I
> give them shutdown permission the message when running shutdown is "only
> root can do that."
edit /etc/lilo.conf
look for sth. like
delay=30
timeout=30
set a new value instead of 30.
run /sbin/lilo (as root, you probably forgot to do this)!!!!
cumarc
--
GNU's Not Unix!
-- http://www.perreira.lu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whats Linux's equiv. of WIN98 Registry?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:39:51 +0100
"Justin R. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
hi,
> Linux isn't windowing system, so it doesn't need a registry.
a registry is nothing more than a 'cool' name for a central
configuration database. in windows the registry is full with binaries.
linux/unix doesn't use this concept, but plain text files.
> KDE GNOME (desktop systems for Linux) both have their versions
> of the registry.
call it what you want
cumarc
--
GNU's Not Unix!
-- http://www.perreira.lu
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From: "Jeff Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:39:44 -0800
Hey all,
I agree, yet disagree!
I've been with MS products since DOS was DOS, heck, I'm even working on my
MCSE (Work dictates it). Window's has gotten worse and bigger from the OS's
stand point, yet, it does do more than Linux. I run NT because I have to, I
run Linux because I want to. I'm an old coder by heart and see Linux as an
opportunity to be the only OS. Yes, that's a dream way-off, but remember
that Linux IS developed by the "world", we can make it do more that MS does,
but do it right!
Each release of Windows is build on top of the other with "Fancies" thrown
in. The "great" ground-up rewrite of Win95, wasn't. The coders on Linux are
not restricted to the Redmond mind set. Hence, the product will grow in more
of a innovative way. The coders also take more pride in their code, which
generally means that it will work better "Out-of-the-box" without 100 SP's.
Bill is a great businessman, or how could he have sold us all SHIT for
years. Better yet, why did we buy it. My answer is that it was the best that
was out there at the time. Linux is finally taking off...who knows, with
corp. backing ( IBM, Compaq and the like) and "No one Person" responsible
for it, it could be the only OS to use -- Time will tell.
Jeff D. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe Cummings wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:57:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>In article <76tk66$gf4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Alot of people wrote: Linux Rules, Linux Sux, Linux will win, MS will
win.
>>
>>Well, I skipped most of them because I've been spending the last week
getting
>>situated in school for my first semester here, and I don't care to read
300
>>posts that effectively can be summed up in the second line of this post.
>>
////////////
>>I'll tell you where you can go today. ,nInn
>> \\V//
>>
>>All I can say is, damn it's hard to do a three line ascii middle finger.:P
>>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:45:03 -0600
From: Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: statistical analysis software?
Use R, it is free clone of S (S-Plus). S-Plus is the main thing
statisticians use these days (not SPSS or SAS).
Bill
==================================
R is a system for statistical computation and graphics. It consists of a
language plus a run-time environment with graphics, a debugger,
access to certain system functions, and the ability to run programs stored
in script files. R implements a language which is not entirely
unlike the S language developed at AT&T Bell Laboratories by Rick Becker,
John Chambers and Allan Wilks. Indeed in the absence of
an R manual, you can (mostly) get along by using the S manual.
The design of R has been heavily influenced by two existing languages:
Becker, Chambers & Wilks' S and Sussman's Scheme. Whereas
the resulting language is very similar in appearance to S, the underlying
implementation and semantics are derived from Scheme. See the
R FAQ for a discussion of the differences between R and S.
R is available as Free Software under the terms of the Free Software
Foundation's GNU General Public License. It comes in source
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Spacey)
Subject: Re: 2 silly questions
Date: 29 Jan 1999 11:42:09 GMT
jdn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: 2) How do you 'toggle' a file to be 'viewed' by Linux as an executable or
: not? I have various files on my Windows partitions that I have which most
: certainly are not executables (like configuration files), but they show up
: in mc all nice and lime green. What's the command to remove this
: 'attribute' so that they aren't seen as executable?
Chmod won't do it for a windows partition, it just doesn't have the
attributes to toggle. You need to alter the mount options, usually by
editing fstab and remounting. The options field needs to include
"umask=000,noexec, quiet". The umask is the opposite of the permissions you
want, so 000 gives everyone read, write and execute priviliges. You need
execute permission to read the folder contents. The noexec part prevents
any other files on that partition being executable. Once you've put that
in it is pointless putting a linux executable on that partition. The
quiet option prevents the system complaining when it can't set attributes
that aren't there.
Be warned, I'm writing this from memory. Check the man pages and make a
backup of fstab before you start.
Dave Spacey
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Walk tall, walk straight,
Spit the world right in the eye.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wick)
Subject: CPU-Idle saves Energy?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:05:35 GMT
Hello,
if switching the APM-Function on, i can select the CPU-IDLE oder CPU-Halt that
should save energy.
Which Processors do support this Feature? 386, 486?
Do this Feature work, if there is no APM-Base in the Bios?
Bye
Eric Wick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Wicks)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:04:13 -0500
In article <4ans2.22723$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John
Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have to un plug and plug mine back in before it works, don't know why and
>it's a pain in the butt!
Well, I'm something of a newbie myself, so take my advise with a pillar of
salt. I changed the mouse in the /etc/X11/XF86Config file to use
/dev/psaux. Since doing that, I get normal mouse usage when I run
XF86Setup, which did not used to happen. If you edit the XF86Config file,
you will see a /dev/mouse line in it, most likely. change it and reboot.
--
Rob Wicks
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Logic . . . merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
The Second Doctor, "The Wheel in Space"
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