Linux-Misc Digest #818, Volume #27                Wed, 9 May 01 16:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Leafnode error (steve)
  Triple boot (is it possible?) (Jonathan Lundstrom)
  Re: How to make Alt-Tab work in ALL WM (SammyTheSnake)
  Re: possible memory leak? (John Hunter)
  Re: apt-get on Redhat ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: load average (Tom Romeo)
  Re: BackSpace, Delete, Vim (I've read all the FAQ's) (Thomas Dickey)
  Re: Do I need /usr/local, /opt, /tmp and /var partitions? (wroot)
  Re: Triple boot (is it possible?) ("leif kremkow")
  Re: 4GB RAM Problem... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: bind control left (Mike Mcclain)
  inetd ("Norman Zhang")
  route problem odd ("me")
  proftp problem ("S. Holl")
  Re: inetd (J Hayward)
  Re: Good web based mail server? ("Monte Milanuk")
  Re: fdisk without restart (Dicky)
  Re: Did YOUR distro install Mesa or OpenGL? (David Efflandt)
  Re: Getting Sony DSC-P1 USB Camera to work (David Efflandt)
  Re: Good web based mail server? (Gareth Jones)
  r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed in kernel 2.4.2 ("FEEB")
  Re: Triple boot (is it possible?) ("DeadDuck")
  Re: load average (David Efflandt)
  Re: SOLVED: Shutdown for non root users (Kevin)
  Re: apt-get on Redhat (Michael Perry)
  Re: Make prompt blink in KDE (David Efflandt)
  Re: Red Hat Linux 7 With RCA (AT&T@Home) Cable Modem (Ian Pilcher)
  Re: Time question (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: rev lookup of dns (David Efflandt)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Subject: Re: Leafnode error
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:29:39 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bora Ugurlu):

I replied via e-mail. I don't understand all the ^M 's throughout your
config file. Do you set it up by hand using Vim? My config file doesn't
look at all like yours.. no ^M at all. Did you use the sample config
file as an example?





-- 
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by GNU/Linux
 12:12pm  up  2:52,  9 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02

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From: Jonathan Lundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Triple boot (is it possible?)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:30:10 -0000

If possible, I'd like to triple-boot Linux, Windows 98, and Windows 2000.  
I have one 20GB hard drive.  Can this be done?

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: How to make Alt-Tab work in ALL WM
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 03:09:46 +0100

In article <9d9aos$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>I would like to make Alt-Tab work the same way in all of X, it allows me 
>to switch to different windows. I have managed to configure it in 
>Enlightenment (and WindowMaker) but is there a way to set it up in 
>xmodmap so that it will work no matter which WM I am running e.g.Blackbox?

no

what keys on the keyboard map to what triggers (~keys) in software is all
xmodmap does, how the WM reacts to those is up to the WM

read up on blackbox, I guess...

HTH
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle.  | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\  & some 6 / 7 ball exercises

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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: possible memory leak?
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 May 2001 10:32:12 -0500

>>>>> "John" == John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Thanks for the previous responses Neil and Karl.

It was an ugly, gaping memory leak.

I use a clonable_ptr class which (should) call delete of the wrapped
pointer in the destructor.  Recently I overhauled that code and
inadvertently deleted the destructor.  Thousands of call to the clone
methods with the resultant news and not a single delete/

All is well now.

Thanks,
John Hunter 

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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:43:43 -0700


"Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ByXJ6.3397$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> Use AutoRPM if you want apt-get like behavior on Redhat or
> Mandrake.  I use it in lieu of Redhat' and Mandrake's autoupdate
> programs.  AutoRPM is configurable enough that you can choose
> which packages to download dynamicly.  Look here
> <http://www.kaybee.org/~kirk/html/linux.html> for AutoRPM.
>
> G'luck....

In case you haven't tried it, the Software Manager in Mandrake 8.0 works the
same way.  You just select the app you want to install, and it handles the
dependencies for you.  It's really slick, and works extremely well.  If
you're a Mandrake user, just upgrade and you'll be all set.

Matt O.



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From: Tom Romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 17:00:44 GMT

If I remember correctly, it is the average number of proccesses
waiting in run queue (i.e, waiting to get CPU time). The numbers
show the average for 1, 5, and fifteen minutes. The higher the
numbers, the more loaded you system is.

Tom Romeo

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 5/9/01, 12:04:01 PM, "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=
=20
wrote regarding load average:


> how to interpret the load average value in top?! thank you.

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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.editors,alt.os.mandrake.misc
Subject: Re: BackSpace, Delete, Vim (I've read all the FAQ's)
Date: 9 May 2001 17:13:42 GMT

In comp.editors Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use a Solaris 2.8 Ultra 10 at work and a Linux 2.2.19 Pentium
...
you could try reading the xterm manpage.
(anne's keyboard faq is at best confused).

The XFree86 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
There's an faq at
        http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.faq.html
        ftp://dickey.his.com/xterm

-- 
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http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com

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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do I need /usr/local, /opt, /tmp and /var partitions?
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:19:19 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> These days, about the only reason to have boot on a separate partition
> is so that you can have /boot unmounted most of the time, and possibly
> a little safer with respect to corrupting your kernel images by some
> kind of filesystem problem.
> 

Do you put this into your startup scripts or something? 
mount -t ext2 /dev/boot /boot  -o remount ro
AFAIR, I always had normally mounted /boot on Linux

Wroot

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From: "leif kremkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Triple boot (is it possible?)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:46:36 -0500

["Jonathan Lundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] last said:
> If possible, I'd like to triple-boot Linux, Windows 98, and Windows
> 2000. I have one 20GB hard drive.  Can this be done?

Yes it can. General plan: Install Win98. Then Win2K. And Linux last. Why
that order? Because MS wipes the MBR as it sees fit. Win98 is not aware of
Win2k, but Win2k is aware of Win98 so will install a nice option menu for
you (I think). Linux needs LILO in the MBR. LILO can boot anybody.

Mind your partitioning though.

,,
leif

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: 4GB RAM Problem...
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi!

In <9dbh3v$8ir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Sabielny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

[del]
>But if we put the fouth DIMM it gets very slow, e.g. needs the double time 
>for a numerical matrix decomposition. Even the bootup time increases 
>dramatically.
[del]

Check if there's a BIOS config entry for the amount of cached RAM
available and confirm that all of your 4GB are cached - that's what
I would do.

HTH,
Uli
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Re: bind control left
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:01:26 GMT

-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-

 MB> Hi,

 MB> Does any one know how to bind <CTRL>-<LEFT> in bash.  I'm using RedHat
 MB> 7.0 with bash 2.04.11(1).
---<snip>---
 MB> Am I right so far and if so how do I go about altering what the console
 MB> receives?
---<snip>---
 MB> Thanks,

 MB> Mike Boyd
 MB> PSA Parts Ltd

Howdy Mike,
    Your understanding is clear as far as it goes, and if you're 
talking CLI not X, this little script will give you what you're
asking for.

    -----< cut here >----------------------------------------
# ~/bin/setkeys        Thu Jan 11 2001         Mc /slak70
# a script to reset my keyboard prefs after 'loadkeys us'
#   called from /etc/rc.local
LOADKEYS=$(which loadkeys)
if [ -x $LOADKEYS ]; then
    # forward/backword_word --> ^Right/^Left cursor keys
    echo "control keycode 105 = Meta_b"         | $LOADKEYS
    echo "control keycode 106 = Meta_f"         | $LOADKEYS
if
    -----< cut here >----------------------------------------

    I said 'as far as it goes' because I didn't realize and you 
probably don't that the more you modify your keymap for bash 
editing, the more you will break your favorite editor. At least
that's what happened to me. For every function assignment I 
gained at the CLI, I lost the same in mcedit. Finally I found
'lpe' whose keymaping was easy enough for me to customize.

G'luck,
MiKe 
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.31

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From: "Norman Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: inetd
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:05:18 -0700

I'm using Linux Mandrake 8.0. But I can't seem to be able to find inetd on
the distribution CDs. All I see is xinetd. Has inetd being removed? Where
can I find inetd? I search www.rpmfind.net, and there seems to be one for
RedHat 6.2.

Thanks and Regards,
Norman



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From: "me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat
Subject: route problem odd
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:39:39 -0500

The pc's on the 10.10.10.0 network can ping the router at 10.10.10.1.

The pc's on the 10.10.9.0 network can ping the router at 10.10.9.1.

Those are the ip's set up on eth0 and eth1 on the router.

Pc's on either side cannot ping the other network other than their own.

When on the router itself, i can ping any part of both networks 10.10.10.?

and 10.10.9.?

I have routing enabled on the router.

---Kernel IP routing table

---Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref UseIface

---10.10.10.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0

----10.10.9.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1

----127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo

----default 10.10.10.100 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

The default route is only there because it is the firewall where all
internet traffic should go.

All pc's are pointing to the router as their default gateway.

Here is the /etc/sysconfig/network file.

NETWORKING=yes

HOSTNAME="froggy.the-finality.int"

GATEWAY="10.10.10.100"

GATEWAYDEV="eth0"

FORWARD_IPV4="yes"

IPX="yes"

IPXINTERNALNETNUM="0"

IPXINTERNALNODENUM="0"

IPXAUTOPRIMARY="on"

IPXAUTOFRAME="on"



Also, is it possible to configure the firewall to redirect all traffic to

the 10.10.10.0 or 10.10.9.0 networks to go through the router, thus allowing

me to remove the default gateway setting from the router?














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From: "S. Holl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: proftp problem
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:09:34 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi
cannot upload of my user account after installing proftd.
every file i like tu upload will be rejectetd by printing " Forbidden
filename". please send me a sollution

thx
steph

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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:18:46 -0700

Hello,

inetd had been replaced by xinetd in RH 7.x. Since Mandrake is based on RH, 
I assume it has been replaced on Mandrake also.

man xinetd
man xinetd.conf

Regards,
        Jim H


Norman Zhang wrote:

> I'm using Linux Mandrake 8.0. But I can't seem to be able to find inetd on
> the distribution CDs. All I see is xinetd. Has inetd being removed? Where
> can I find inetd? I search www.rpmfind.net, and there seems to be one for
> RedHat 6.2.
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Norman
> 
> 
> 


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From: "Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Good web based mail server?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:34:19 GMT

One I've heard good things about is NeoMail... sorry, I don't have a URL
handy.

Monte

Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm running RH7.1 amd am looking for a good Web based mail-server app.
> Any favorites or suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> Jeff



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From: Dicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fdisk without restart
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 02:34:53 +0800

Dances With Crows wrote:

> On Wed, 09 May 2001 00:11:22 +0800, Dicky staggered into the Black Sun
> and said:
> >Eric en Jolanda wrote:
> >>>>Is there any method that I don't need to reboot the machine after
> >>>>fdisk a new partition and can format and use it ?
> >>>
> >>> edit /etc/fstab to reflect where you want to mount the new
> >>> partition (see man 5 fstab) and then mount -a
> >>>
> >>
> >> No!  Don't try this if fdisk mentions to reboot.  (Well trying to
> >> mount it wont hurt, running mkfs is more dangerous)
> >>
> >> You can alter the partitiontable on a disk that has no other
> >> partitions mounted.  Then the kernel will be able to update the table
> >> correctly.  If you changed a partitiontable, check /proc/partitions
> >> to see if the change came through. If so, no need to reboot, if it's
> >> not there, reboot. Do not attempt to run mkfs unless you're sure the
> >> kernel uses the same table as you do.
> >>
> >but how other distribution installation disk do?  for example, the
> >Redhat installation can partition and then format the harddisk without
> >reboot the machine. How can they do that ?
>
> If you change the partition table of the disk that contains / , then
> things get tricky.  / must always be mounted, so it's impossible for the
> kernel to re-read the partition table of the disk where / resides.
> Installation and root/boot systems get around this problem by making
> their / a RAMdisk, which solves the problem neatly.
>
> BTW, "Dicky", don't top-quote and don't trim attributions.  It's not
> nice.
>

Is that means if I have a 4GB partitiion and after I fdisk it into
two 2GB partition, I don't need to reboot ?

thanks for your advice, I will remember that.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Did YOUR distro install Mesa or OpenGL?
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:40:03 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 8 May 2001 12:49:02 GMT, Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would like to hear from your experiences if your distro detected your 
> graphics accelerator card and maybe automatically installed these goodies:
>  Mesa or
>  Open GL

SuSE 7.1 automatically installed the Mesa and glide libs for the Monster
3D (voodoo1) on my old box, and it worked when I tested it.  I don't
currently have a monitor on that box, to double check that.  But looking
at /usr/lib on the SuSE partition I do see these files:

libglide2x.so   libglide2x_VG
libMesaGL.a     libMesaGL.la
libMesaGL.so    libMesaGL.so.3
libMesaGLU.la   libMesaGLU.so
libMesaGLU.so.3

And /usr/lib/GL with:

libGL.so.1.2.mesa3dfx   libGL.so.1.2.mesasof

It also installed Mesa and GL (minus 3dfx specifics) on my current box 
that has ATI Rage LT Pro.

> AFAIK, or as far as I can tell, it seems to be an optional preference, 
> and the most you would get is the latest XFree, and as far as gaming or 
> graphics goodness goes, you're on your own: you'd have to get them 
> yourself either from the Mesa website or the gaming vendor e.g. Loki
> It would be nice if it were as simple as getting GLSetup for Windows, a 
> one-stop shop nomatter which card you own, but hey this is Linux. "Good 
> Luck boy! And tell me how it goes!"

I guess it depends which distro you use and whether the packages are on
your Linux CD for custom or later install.  I used to have to get the Mesa
and glide libs separately.  But I have not played Quake lately because the
old box and ppp are too slow for Q3.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Getting Sony DSC-P1 USB Camera to work
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:52:19 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 08 May 2001 23:30:08 -0000, Heinz Ruffieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently purchased a Sony DSC-P1 cammera with USB connection and would
> like to get it to work with my RH7.1 (out-of-the-box) Linux box.
> 
> According to many pages I read this configuration should work right away.
> But not in my case. Maybe my CD writer is the problem???
> 
> Is there anybody who could give my a hint?

The first place to start is http://www.linux-usb.org/
Especially check the working devices link to see if anyone has had success 
or not with a similar device.

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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Good web based mail server?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:56:15 GMT

"Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>One I've heard good things about is NeoMail... sorry, I don't have a URL
>handy.

http://neomail.sourceforge.net/


>Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I'm running RH7.1 amd am looking for a good Web based mail-server app.
>> Any favorites or suggestions?

Squirrelmail is great. It is a web based IMAP client - so you'll need
to run uwimapd or something like that. 

http://www.squirrelmail.org/

Gareth

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From: "FEEB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed in kernel 2.4.2
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:09:34 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: "FEEB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Since I installed RedHat 7.1 distribution with kernel 2.4.2 on a 2xPIII 
1GHz system, I am getting these in the system log:

kernel: [drm:r128_do_wait_for_idle] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_idle failed!

I was not able to find any reference to this message anywhere.

Does anyone know, what it means?

Thanks


Frank Bures, <grandial at softex.cz> 



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From: "DeadDuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Triple boot (is it possible?)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:24:54 +0100


"leif kremkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ["Jonathan Lundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] last said:
> > If possible, I'd like to triple-boot Linux, Windows 98, and Windows
> > 2000. I have one 20GB hard drive.  Can this be done?
>
> Yes it can. General plan: Install Win98. Then Win2K. And Linux last. Why
> that order? Because MS wipes the MBR as it sees fit. Win98 is not aware of
> Win2k, but Win2k is aware of Win98 so will install a nice option menu for
> you (I think). Linux needs LILO in the MBR. LILO can boot anybody.
>
> Mind your partitioning though.
>
> ,,
> leif

I have this setup running (admittedly on 2 hard disks, but the principle
should be the same). Leif is correct about the order of loading OSs, but be
aware of how to set up LILO. For my system, I have only two LILO entries -
one for Linux partition, and one for Windows. Booting into the Linux option
does what you'd expect, but for Windows I've always had to boot to the Win98
partition, which then presents the option to boot Win98 or Win2K. This
suggests to me that the Win2K has hijacked the startup procedure for Windows
98 rather than the MBR itself, since I've installed LILO into the MBR and it
didn't break the Windows menu.

Perhaps someone else knows how to get LILO to recognise all three
partitions, but I suspect that the Win2K installation simply won't accept an
attempt to boot directly off its own partition.

HTH.
DeadDuck



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:28:44 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 09 May 2001 17:00:44 GMT, Tom Romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I remember correctly, it is the average number of proccesses
> waiting in run queue (i.e, waiting to get CPU time). The numbers
> show the average for 1, 5, and fifteen minutes. The higher the
> numbers, the more loaded you system is.
> 
> Tom Romeo

Typically for a single processor machine you should not see it go over
1.00 for any period of time, but it can comfortable run at 1.00 if
background processes are set for lower priority (man nice).  For example
when I run SETI@home, it runs load ave 1.00 consuming 100% of available
cpu time, but it runs nice 19 (lowest priority) so I don't even notice it.

If you see it beyond your number of cpu's and continuously rising, you 
probably have a broken process in a race condition which can eventually 
choke your box.  I have seen that when testing a USB CD-RW which is not 
quite supported and the runaway process does not respond to kill (time to 
reboot).
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 5/9/01, 12:04:01 PM, "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote regarding load average:
> 
> 
>> how to interpret the load average value in top?! thank you.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Re: SOLVED: Shutdown for non root users
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 19:28:37 GMT

Thanks so much for posting your solution with SOLVED in the
subject line.  That makes it easier to find *answers* in
newsgroup archives instead of just the *problems*.

Cheers....

-- 
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opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 19:33:06 -0000

On Wed, 9 May 2001 09:43:43 -0700, Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ByXJ6.3397$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
>> Use AutoRPM if you want apt-get like behavior on Redhat or
>> Mandrake.  I use it in lieu of Redhat' and Mandrake's autoupdate
>> programs.  AutoRPM is configurable enough that you can choose
>> which packages to download dynamicly.  Look here
>> <http://www.kaybee.org/~kirk/html/linux.html> for AutoRPM.
>>
>> G'luck....
> 
> In case you haven't tried it, the Software Manager in Mandrake 8.0 works the
> same way.  You just select the app you want to install, and it handles the
> dependencies for you.  It's really slick, and works extremely well.  If
> you're a Mandrake user, just upgrade and you'll be all set.
> 
> Matt O.
> 
> 
No thanks.  Think I will stick with apt-get.  Mandrake 8 sounds a little
interesting; but not enough to switch over to try the software manager.  I
much prefer the tools around apt also and the configurable interfaces one
can use to preconfigure downloaded applications (apt-utils) in unstable now
or hold applications for whatever reason.  I do have one academic question
for these solutions.  How do they handle things like secondary dependency
levels?  Say a package has a dependency but that dependency also has one
that is not met.  Does the application search for the secondary dependency
fulfillment?  Does it just stop?  Are these GUI tools or are there console
ones as well?  I like the console nature of apt-get since I can use it from
just about anywhere to touch a debian system.

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Michael Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Make prompt blink in KDE
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:43:49 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 07 May 2001 18:04:12 -0000, Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using Caldera 2.4 with KDE 2.1.1.  When I bring up a terminal window
> in KDE the cursor does not blink.  It there a way to have it blink like 
> it does at the console?  Also how can I make it an underline instead of a 
> block.

In xterm you can set the cursor to blink and the duration of on/off times
(see: man xterm).  There might be an option to set its hight too, but I
cannot find it at the moment.

I don't see any such setting for options in the KDE Konsole, but I don't
like that anyway because pasting to it seems to eat up text formatting,
resulting in a pasty mess.  It is also too big to fit 4 to a screen.  So I
typically use 'xterm -r' for terminals instead.

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From: Ian Pilcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 7 With RCA (AT&T@Home) Cable Modem
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 19:53:30 GMT

Wouldnt You Like to Know wrote:
> 
> I have seen several somewhat condensed articles on getting AT&T@Home
> cable modems to run with Red Hat Linux, but nothing has been very
> comprehensive.  It also seems the configuration may be different based
> on the geography you are in.  I happen to be in the Chicagoland
> (western suburbs) area.
> 

AFAIK, AT&T@Home uses standard DHCP.  The twist is that you do need to
specify the "DHCP hostname" in your request.  Red Hat's GUI tools don't
provide a way to do this, but you can edit the network configuration
script for the appropriate interface (probably
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0) and add a line which reads
"DHCP_HOSTNAME=<name>", where <name> is the computer name you were
assigned.

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Ian Pilcher                                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Time question
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 May 2001 15:54:07 -0400

"Daniel Kenzelmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Warren Bell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Is it standard practice to keep the bios time at GMT and then have your
> > system time adjust from that,

yes.  let the hardware clock do GMT.

> or should you keep your bios time at your
> > local time?

local time is subject to the whims of your local politician in setting
daylight savings.  patch with software.

> If you want to use such horrible things like Windows, then you need to
> set your localtime,

no you don't.  you just let windows run zulu.  if windows can't keep
up, let it lose.

> otherwise it's a good idea to use GMT for bios time

it's *always* a good idea to use GMT for hardware time.

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J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
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sysengr

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: rev lookup of dns
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:56:16 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 7 May 2001, Wong Ching Kuen Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is it necessary for the primary dns to be "reversely lookupable"?! thanks.

I believe that the nameserver has to be able to resolve its own name,
because nslookup throws an error if the nameserver does not have a name.  
If DNS is on the same box this would be localhost, and if accessed from
another box it would be the name of the IP that the request came in on.

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