Linux-Misc Digest #837, Volume #18 Sun, 31 Jan 99 12:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Fonts, can hardly read anything (Michael Powe)
Re: encrypted file system (Michael Powe)
Re: Uninstalling a tarball application? (Michael Powe)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Caley)
Re: dial-up web server? (David Efflandt)
Re: command line ftp to download files plus sub directories? (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Toon Moene)
Re: cannot open root device 08:07 (Jens-Birger Schlie)
Re: manually upgrading to glibc2 ? ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Debian und telnet (Jens-Birger Schlie)
serious redhat problem after upgrade (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: Shutdown (joseph_a_philbrook__iii)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Tim Smith)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fonts, can hardly read anything
Date: 30 Jan 1999 23:27:14 -0800
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>>>>> "Michael" == Michael 'BeLFrY' S E Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michael> Kaustav Bhattacharya wrote:
>> Since I installed RH5.2, I have not changed anything much. I
>> find the fonts really badly unreadable. e.g. in Netscape the
>> KDE site or the Red Hat site is practically unreadable. I
>> though the Mac had bad fonts but
Michael> Ok... Under X or in Netscape per se.
Michael> For X edit your .Xdefaults file appropriately. (RH5.2
Michael> comes with some X fonts installed, although you may wish
Michael> to install more off the CD.)
Someone pointed out to me recently that the fontification of netcrap
is controlled in a file called Netscape.ad, which is located in the
Netscape configuration directory, e.g., /usr/local/netscape. You can
use the resources from this file in your .Xdefaults to make your
modifications.
Michael> For Netscape, select Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance ->
Michael> Fonts and modify appropriately.
This had no effect on fontification in my version of netcrap. I
suspect you have to turn off the option to use the web-page fonts.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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- --
Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 30 Jan 1999 23:39:35 -0800
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>>>>> "Leslie" == Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Leslie> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
Leslie> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Personally, I've thought more than once of putting on an
>> encrypted file system just because I have a lot of documents
>> that I would prefer to be `for my eyes only.' I just haven't
>> gotten around to it.
Leslie> 'Real' vi use the -x option to filter documents through
Leslie> crypt as it read and wrote files so you could require a
Leslie> password to access them. I don't think vim does that yet
Leslie> but perhaps some other editors do.
I use a shell script to access one text file that I keep encrypted
with PGP. I just decrypt, edit and recrypt in one pass. The script
is the .login for a dedicated account. Crude, but effective.
It seems to me that a serious issue with an encrypted fs could be
corruption. What happens if the lights go out while the system is on?
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uninstalling a tarball application?
Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:36:49 -0800
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>>>>> "Villy" == Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Villy> In article <78rq1h$mmo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jdn
Villy> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Anyway, suppose I've come to my senses and decide to get rid of
>> some of these applications to free up disk space. Is there a
>> basic procedure to do this, or is it more of a "hunt down and
>> kill" process? Obviously, with RedHat, you just uninstall the
>> RPM. Is there anything similar with tar.gz installs?
Villy> The only thing you could do if the tarball doesn't include
Villy> an uninstall script is to get a list of files in the tar
Villy> archive and go from there. An uninstall script ought to be
Villy> mandatory for every tarball package.
Tsk tsk. Such arrogance. I'm more than happy that there are plenty of
people out there willing to do what I cannot do -- write programs,
create autoconf scripts that will do in minutes what used to take
hours, and put them somewhere I can download them and install them.
If I need to uninstall them, I surely am grown up enough to take care
of it myself. And if not, I surely am grown up enough not to complain
about it.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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- --
Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:46:37 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Piotr Wanat (pw) writes:
pw> If someone decides to install and run Linux in local network and
pw> share FS via Samba, he's the first person whose machine is hacked.
Which would lead to the idea of sticking a linux box on the network
with lots of packet tracking and similar and someone hoverring over
it, finding who hacks it and jumpoing on them from a great
height. Repeat as long as it is interesting.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _O_
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From: David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dial-up web server?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:32:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/30/99, 7:16:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) wrote=20
regarding Re: dial-up web server?:
> [Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
> On 30 Jan 1999 15:51:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashok Aiyar)
> wrote:
> >On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:34:25 GMT,
> > steve mcadams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >>Is there a way that I can set up my Linux box (currently running=20
SuSE
> >>5.3) so that it will somehow call up my ISP, and "register" itself=20
as
> >>a web-server that supports my InterNIC domain?
> >
> >If you get a static IP address each time you dial-up, the solution is=
> >simple. You simply need to have your ISP (or someone else) serve
> >as your primary DNS so that "www.your.domain" resolves to that static=
> >IP address.
> Is this something that my ISP determines? ie, can I ask/pay them for
> a static ip-address? I would assume the answer to be yes, but know
> very little of the mechanisms involved. -steve
> --------------------------------------------------------
> so what? - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
How did you get an Internic domain without any IP address or=20
nameservers (2 nameservers are required).
Once you get nameservers that can point to your IP (see other note=20
about services for dynamic IP's) and set the hostname on your machine=20
to match, all you have to do is fire up apache and you are on the web.=20
If you want to use that hostname online and offline show the IP for=20
that name in /etc/hosts as 0.0.0.0. Don't delete or add any names to=20
the localhost line.
Once apache is running, you can access it via: http://localhost/ or=20
http://your.domain/.
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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: command line ftp to download files plus sub directories?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:06:40 GMT
stephen wrote:
> Hello:
> Is there a ftp command to download multiple
> files plus sub directories? As in fetch an entire
> directory structure and it's contents.
> [ ... ]
Try ncftp: ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/3.0BETA/ncftp-3.0beta16-src.tar.gz
If you�re looking for a command line utility, I�d recommend �wget� or
�curl� (search for it on www.freshmeat.net, once it�s up & running
again), both of which allow recursive retrieval of both FTP and HTTP
URLs.
Thomas (am I the only one missing his daily dose of freshmeat? ;-)
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From: Toon Moene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:06:58 +0100
steve mcadams wrote:
> [Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:27:28 +0000, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It doesn't matter. Almost every internet key word search ends up at
> >either at "hot teens" or a lesbian chatroom anyway, who is going to look
> >a news group posting.
Yeah, "Hacking is the most fun you can get - with your clothes on".
:-)
> Yeah, it bites, doesn't it. A year ago you could actually find
> something on AltaVista. Now you just find a billion or two references
> to unrelated stuff that happens to match your search keys. Time for
> some new-tech methinks.
Are you sure - it still instills respect with me that if I type "2.2.0"
in DejaNews, I actually get news about a recent Linux kernel release,
and if I enter 21264, I'll get (mostly) news about a new
Digital^H^H^H^H^HCompaq chip.
You have to know how to ask the right questions, though.
--
Toon Moene ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
Phone: +31 346 214290; Fax: +31 346 214286
g77 Support: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; egcs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jens-Birger Schlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cannot open root device 08:07
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:40:53 +0100
Tim Pickrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> put out:
> Need help getting a scsi kernel to build.
> Built a kernel for scsi on Caldera 1.3
> boot partition is /dev/sda7
> When machine comes up I get message:
> VFS: Cannot opne root device 08:07
> kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:07
> Default kernel works.
> Any suggestions?
> Regards.
Yes, some (trivial) in precedence:
Scsi as modul or missing?
sda7 really *root* partition?
The file system of the root partition in the kernel
*not* as modul?
The default kernel does also point to sda7 as root fs? (check with rdev; man
8 rdev).
Hope you'll find the bug by checking the suggestions,
Jens
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: manually upgrading to glibc2 ?
Date: 31 Jan 1999 10:47:17 -0500
Greanthumb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DG> Does it make sense to download the latest glibc-2.0.7pre6.tar.gz
DG> and install it or is it better to go for an all new distribution ?
That depends. What distribution do you use? How attached are you to
it? If the answers are "Slackware" and "not very" then doing the
upgrade by hand might be for you. If you're using a package-managed
distribution and you like the packages you might want to upgrade your
distribution instead.
DG> Is a ./make install enough;-) or is it too difficult for a
DG> "normal" Linux user ? If it's easy to upgrade, so is installing
DG> glibc2...tar.gz sufficient to run glibc2 based apps ?
There are Issues (TM) with library compatibility and such, which can
start to make your life difficult if you don't know what you're doing.
Even some of the distributions have trouble with libc5/libc6
compatibility.
DG> I just want to be able to run glibc2 apps and may want to use some
DG> 2.2.0 features that need glibc.
If your goal is "it should just work" then you almost definitely want
to upgrade your distribution.
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| David Maze | _Schroedinger's Kittens_. Asexual
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | reproduction? Only one cat is in the box."
| http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Abra Mitchell
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From: Jens-Birger Schlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian und telnet
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:23:30 +0100
Sie haben gepostet in eine English Gruppe. Ich kann nix Deutsch schreiben,
vielleicht sie lesen English?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] put out:
> wahrscheinlich ein ultratriviales Problem, aber ich weiss mom noch nicht,
> worans hapert...
> ich kann auf mein Linux System (Debian) kein telnet machen, solange ich die
> Kiste, von der aus ich das telnet machen m�chte nicht in die
> /etc/host
> Datei eingetragen habe.
> Wenn ich DAS tue, klappt sofort mit dem Nachbarn.
> Aber das kann�s ja irgendwie nicht sein, da� ich erst jeden m�glichen hist in
> die /etc/hosts Tabelle eintagen muss, zumal ich das auch schon anders gesehen
> habe.
( Can only telnet on my machine after I inserted the hosts I do the
telnet from into my machine's /etc/hosts )
Well, I think you are right. Normally the /etc/hosts is only for name
resolving, but it might be screwed into the /etc/hosts.deny / .allow based
access control, f. ex. like: (hosts.deny) ALL : ALL EXCEPT hosts. For
hosts.allow/deny read tcpd(8) and hosts_access(5).
BTW: Does it work the other way round without inserting the host into
/etc/hosts?
If yes, then it really *is* some sort of access control.
Gluecklich Hacken,
Jens
;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Subject: serious redhat problem after upgrade
Date: 31 Jan 1999 15:53:36 GMT
Hi, I hav recentrly upgraded to redhat 5.2 from 5.1.
I have very serious problems with the c compiler, but I'll describe them
elsewhere... now, as anyone ever seen this:
stefano: stefano> ls grtg
ls: grtg: t7`@#_r
����
where grtg is a non-existing file. All error messages from the shell seem
screwwed up... but rpm -V bash reports nothing, any ideas? I have bash
2.02.1-2. Please reply also by email.
TIA, Stefano
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Office: D554, Arrheniusv. 14, S-106 91 Stockholm, Sweden
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joseph_a_philbrook__iii)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:00:40 GMT
In article <78t3d7$9a5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
TufCrane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>TufCrane from Korea
>
>Hmm...
>
>Use "su" command!!
>
>$ su
>
The other method that wouldn't require typing in the root password depends
on if his system exectes Shutdown on the trhe finger salute
<alt><ctrl><delete> I forget which initialization file it's in but I
remember a thread where someone wanted it to halt rather than reboot...
I remember reading in some older books how it was a bad Idea to do this.
I suspect that was because maybee in early versions it might have trigered
a reboot without clearing the file buffers... But It works fine on my
slackware 3.5 instalation...
--- ___
<O> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
^
\___/ < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 31 Jan 1999 07:41:03 -0800
e-frog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>3) The lies that MS puts out about being innovative. There is rarely
>anything innovative from MS besides Marketing strategies. e.g. "New"
>Cleartype technology, which they didn't realize that Wozniak et al.
>developed, oh, over 10 years ago for the AppleIIe.
Until some details on Cleartype are released, your statement is pure
speculation. (Hint: go back to the web page you got that information
from, and read it carefully.).
--Tim Smith
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 03:38:05 +1100
G'day...
> Yes, he's british. No, he doesn't talk funny.
> (that's what americans, australians and all those other bally foreigners are
> for)
Hey... we don't talk funny you guys do...! =) (Well, its certainly not "The Queen's
English"
is it?) =P ;)
(Hrmm... the accent argument is as silly as the "we made the best computing technology"
argument, under the pretext of being a Linux related discussion...)
I was recently in the US for five weeks (travelled 'round a bit east to west) and
London for
five weeks.
On arrival back, I could hear our accent more strongly than what I normally do. I was
quite
strange to me. (But rather nice when you have been away from home for a little while.)
Funny
thing is that most people have trouble picking my accent (I get the "Where are you
from? No,
where originally?" questions from people, locals and foreigners, all the time) because
it is
quite neutral anyway...
I think its late and I'm rambling a bit too much now..... =)
Ciao...
Michael.
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