Linux-Misc Digest #392, Volume #19 Wed, 10 Mar 99 00:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ?????????? (Michael Powe)
Re: best offline newsreader? (Michael Powe)
Re: stupid tar question (Michael Powe)
Re: ICMP Timestamp (Seth Van Oort)
Re: System.map (Seth Van Oort)
Re: "/usr is busy" error message on shutdown (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Re: es1788 ("Larry Richardson")
Dosemu file time stamp question (Joshua Grauman)
rcp problem (Bill Lewis)
Re: command not found not solved with ./ (Steven M. Harrington)
Re: No-Win Modem Situation (John Varela)
Re: what "rc" scripts exist for linux? (Stefan Monnier)
Re: gnome 1.0 install and required library RPM upgrades (Kevin Wilkinson (Farpoint
Station))
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (brian moore)
benchmark a sun vs a intel linux box (Gordon Vrdoljak)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ??????????
Date: 09 Mar 1999 16:10:17 -0800
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>>>>> "SpAmEnOt" == SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SpAmEnOt> On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> "Joe (theWordy) Philbrook" wrote: > [VIEWER Result: sh:
>> /usr/bin/shownonascii: No such file or directory] > What is
>> /usr/bin/shownonascii supposed to be anyway???
>> Part of metamail, a suite of programs that do exactly what you
>> are trying to do
SpAmEnOt> Hmmmnnn well yeah that checks out... As it turns out I
SpAmEnOt> do have metamail installed. AND the file
SpAmEnOt> /usr/bin/shownonascii is there... BUT it apearantly
SpAmEnOt> insists on using X11 stuff... I'm not good enough to
SpAmEnOt> rewrite it so as to work on my box (on which there will
SpAmEnOt> never be a gui, untill gui's can be run in TEXT MODE on
SpAmEnOt> a console) so I had to learn what the mailcap file was
SpAmEnOt> for... in that I commented out any lines that I
SpAmEnOt> determined lead to commands that required X be installed
SpAmEnOt> etc...
SpAmEnOt> Trouble is I have no idea what lines to add to get the
SpAmEnOt> raw text of any text type not recognized simply routed
SpAmEnOt> to the screen in raw form via a pager... That is, I DO
SpAmEnOt> want any mime encodeing decoded, and the resulting
SpAmEnOt> non-ascii text be simply fed to a pager...
If you want graphics, you're going to have to use a graphical
environment. That means X or something like it. At the command line,
you're in a command shell -- it does not do graphics. If you want to
pipe "raw text" to the screen, you can just look at the file in less.
Just use a mailer's "save attachment" option to save it to a file
first. I don't know what good that is going to do you.
mp
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: 09 Mar 1999 16:45:02 -0800
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>>>>> "Paul-S" == Paul-S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul-S> On 7 Mar 1999 19:14:16 GMT, "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Paul-S> wrote:
>> Then just bite the bullet and learn to use a differnt package
>> such as slrn. If, as you say, your "whole point of installing
>> Linux is a change of perspective" then forget about Agent and
>> use something that is native to Linux.
Paul-S> Yes, that's the best idea, and I'm willing to go with
Paul-S> something new and different, but not something that's new
Paul-S> and crap (to be brutal)
If all you care about is appearance, you're going to struggle in
linux. Agent is a `crappy,' clumsy newsreader compared to slrn, Gnus,
even tin. It's all flash.
Paul-S> It's odd, but it almost seems like it needs win95 app
Paul-S> programmers, who are up to speed on the latest
Paul-S> refinements, to start working in Linux.
I've used at least a 1/2 dozen Windows newsreaders and none of them
were worth crap compared to what's available in linux/unix. I think
when you talk about `refinements' you're talking about how `cool' they
look on the screen. Get out of that mindset. Quit worrying about
what people will think when they see your desktop and start noticing
how much more <functional> linux apps can be than their Windows
counterparts.
mp
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stupid tar question
Date: 09 Mar 1999 16:27:49 -0800
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>>>>> "tim" == tim rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
tim> This is an awfully simple question, but I just can't seem to
tim> find a simple explanation in my various manuals. How do I
tim> extract tar files? I'm trying:
tim> tar -x file.tar
tim> and it is just freezing up.
By default, tar works off the tape drive, usually /dev/rmt0 or
something similar. If you're dealing with a file, you need to specify
as much with the `-f' option, as in `tar zxf file.tar.gz'.
Read the tar `info' file. It's useful.
mp
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ICMP Timestamp
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:05:03 +0000
It's really hard to tell what you're asking. If you're asking for the
line that actually replies it's
icmp_reply(&icmp_param, skb);
Seth
Du Jinsong wrote:
>
> Hi, I found in kernel net/ipv4/icmp.c there is a function
> icmp_timestamp(), which handles the incoming timestamp requests, but I
> cannot find the function that deal with the replys(at IP or TCP layer).
> Would you pleas help me?
> Thanks a lot!
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:59:10 +0000
System.map defines the addresses of all the global kernel symbols. If
you debug/hack kernels it's a must. If you don't, I don't think there
are any normal programs that require it (but it's nice :-) ).
Seth
Georges Heinesch wrote:
>
> After compilation of the kernel 2.0.36, I had a "System-map" file
> lying in /.
>
> - What is it for?
> - Is it required for proper operation?
>
> I need to know this because I got a pre-compiled version from a
> friend. This tar archive contained 3 files:
>
> 1. kernel
> 2. System.map
> 3. .config
>
> 1. & 3. is clear, but I don't know whether I have to put "System.map"
> to / or not?
>
> --
> Cu Georges Heinesch, Luxembourg
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/2480
> PGP 2.6.3i / 5.1i public key on request and on public servers
>
> ... her name was Lola, ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Subject: Re: "/usr is busy" error message on shutdown
Date: 10 Mar 1999 04:29:33 GMT
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> shaped electrons to say:
>
>I've started getting this message when I shutdown the system. When
>going through the shutdown procedure, I see the message "/usr is busy"
>when the filesystems are being unmounted. Then when I come back into
>the system, I get "/dev/hdc3 not cleanly unmounted, check forced" and
>then fsck runs. No problems are detected/fixed.
>
>Not sure what caused this. I very seldom reboot this system, the last
>time would have been late January when I upgraded to kernel 2.2.
>
>Any ideas what might be causing it? How to fix it?
My experience is that there is some process that is not properly
responding to the signals that the shutdown process send to them. Generally
I find that it is one of the system daemons or something in the /etc/rc.d
tree.
The solution I used was to edit the rc.sysinit(?) script (where the system
is unmounting partitions) and adding a "mount -o remount,ro /usr" at the end
of the sequence so that the fsck is avoided in subsequent boots.
If the remount fails, then there is probably a corrupt process or kernel
module, and more investigation is warranted.
--
Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us
ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U Errant co-moderator of:
soc.religion.unitarian-univ
"The Line Eater is a boojum snark." Hug your wolf. (Thanks Peter.)
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From: "Larry Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: es1788
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:21:29 GMT
Did you try configuring the Linux box with the command "sndconfig"
L-
yhauser wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm trying to configure my es1788 soundcard for a 2.0.33 kernel. I chose
>to install the card as a module - sound blaster - , but by checking the
>/dev/sndstat file there is no audio device listed, although the card
>config lines are not in (). What went wrong?
>yves
>
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From: Joshua Grauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dosemu file time stamp question
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 16:51:38 -0800
After I have dosemu running for a couple hours, it starts to time stamp
files in my linux partition in the future. I am editing files in my
linux partition from dos using emufs.sys. I guess dosemu keeps time
seperate from linux and therefore gets ahead. Is there any way I can
sync dosemu's clock to linux so that dosemu time stamps my files
correctly? Thanks.
Joshua Grauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bill Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rcp problem
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:54:14 GMT
Anyone know the right trick to get rcp to work between two Linux
machines? I set up .rhosts as usual and the rsh and rlogin commands
work fine for user "blewis". When I attempt an rcp for the same user
the
local side hangs and the remote side seems to do nothing. The remote
/var/log/messages contains these entries:
Mar 8 16:15:11 renegade pam_rhosts_auth[837]: allowed to blewis@kojak
as blewis
Mar 8 16:15:11 renegade PAM_pwdb[837]: (rsh) session opened for user
blewis by (uid=0)
The command string is rcp ./anyfile.txt blewis@renegade:/tmp/anyfile.txt
Any particular daemon process that needs to be running specifically for
rcp?
All suggestions welcome.
Thanx,
-bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven M. Harrington)
Subject: Re: command not found not solved with ./
Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:01:02 GMT
Also, the first line of the script should usually be #!/bin/sh. However,
if you running a pearl script of sum such it might be #!/bin/pearl.
Whatever it is - make sure it exists!
Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>A script also has be set executable using the chmod command or execute the script
>using the sh command.
>Dave Kortz wrote:
>> I've been trying to run a script (ns-install for Netscape 4.51) and receive an
>> error: "bash:command not found" After reading through this newsgroup I see that
>> the solution should be to add the directory to my path or type ./ns-install - I
>>
>> I have tried both of these solutions, but without it solving the problem. I am
>> logged in as root and have confirmed that bash is my shell. I'm using Redhat
>> 5.2 and (although I doubt I need to add the obvious) rather new at using Linux.
>> Thanks.
--
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Varela)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: No-Win Modem Situation
Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:20:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:57:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford) wrote:
> The jumpers are usually a good indication it's not a winmodem, though.
But the inverse is not true: i.e., a modem without jumpers may not be a
winmodem. 3COM model 5687 is an internal V.90 x2 modem, not a winmodem, with
no jumpers.
--
John Varela
(delete . between mind and spring to e-mail me)
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From: Stefan Monnier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: what "rc" scripts exist for linux?
Date: 09 Mar 1999 20:20:33 -0500
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [M Sweger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>> I was just wondering what types of "rc" scripts exist out there for
>> Linux and what tar file names they go by? I.E SysV vs. BSD style.
>> Presently Redhat seems to use SysV whereas slackware uses BSD. I'll
>> assume there is also a version that is a cross between SysV and BSD
>> for linux.
> Dunno about hybrids. But for another data point, Debian uses SysV.
If anybody's interested, I use (on my RedHat systems) my own set of
scripts, which are fairly similar to SysV but extract most of the common
functionality to provide a more consistent interface and to reduce redundancy
in the scripts themselves. A best case example is
~-0% cat /etc/init.d/Sendmail
#!/bin/bash /sbin/initd-driver
: ${sendmail_flags:=-bd -q15m}
: ${sendmail_path:=/usr/sbin/sendmail}
daemons="sendmail"
~-0%
This is enough to allow /etc/init.d/Sendmail to accept start, stop, reset and
status arguments. To specify which commands to run when, I use a config file
rather than /etc/rc?.d directories. Using this config file you can do:
~-0% /sbin/services RunLevel3 status
to see the status of all the services defined in RunLevel3.
I haven't arranged for those scripts to be well-packaged for distribution,
but I can tar them up if someone wants to play with them.
> (But Digital Unix takes the cake for confusing/counterintuitive. Their
> runlevel directories are /sbin/rc?.d/.)
I must say that since the /etc/init.d scripts are executables (and are not
supposed to be edited) rather than config files, they should arguably not
reside in /etc but in /sbin.
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Wilkinson (Farpoint Station))
Subject: Re: gnome 1.0 install and required library RPM upgrades
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:18:54 GMT
On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:10:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ben Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gnome 1.0 was originally missing packages for glib10 and gtk10. They
>are there now for download, and should satisfy the dependencies.
Ah, HA! Thank you, I'll go grab the files and try again. (Yep, I was
having the same problems).
Thanks,
Kevin Wilkinson,
Farpoint Station
http://www.farpointstation.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:29:26 GMT
On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:02:24 -0500,
Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's called "courtesy", or "attribution". I'd hate for somebody not to
> know who said what, if they stumbled on this thread only now....
Attribution would be the first line of this message. The .sig is not
attribution. (And proper news clients will automatically strip it from
replies.)
> Hey, You're quick on the draw! Now: what about everything ELSE I said?
> Does it not warrant a reply? If so, just tell me what am I full of, I'll
> go away. Not necessarily changing my mind, though. So, if You wish to
> convince me, PLS reply to the whole thing, not just it's most irrelevant
> part!
Most of it was irrelevant nonsense. As relevant as your insisting you
trimmed your posts followed by quoting the .sig.
> BTW, I never had the (dubious, I infer from Your previous post)
> pleasure to work on HP3000, but I've also never heard of RSTS. RSX-11M
> yes, I still have nightmares, but not RSTS. What was (is) it?
One of several OS's for the PDP-11. Far more popular than RSX-11 as I
recall, or it certainly was around here (at least on non-Unix PDP-11s).
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Gordon Vrdoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ucb.os.linux
Subject: benchmark a sun vs a intel linux box
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 18:07:06 -0800
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Hello,
I am new to benchmarking. The only thing I've done is run a few
benchmarks under windows 95/NT/3.11. I've never
done it for a unix system. I would however, like to compare the
performance of a linux box running on a pentium II
to a local server our department has on a sun system SunOS
Generic_105181-11 sun4m sparc. I have root access to
the linux box, but will have to talk to the sysadmin about running
intensive tests. I do have a general user account on
the sun system. Please let me know of any good ways to compare the
system's performance in calculations, file access,
etc. I'll post the results to the newsgroup if I can obtain something
meaningful and learn something in the process.
Any comments appreciated. Please send them to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as well as this newsgroup.
Gordon Vrdoljak.
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Hello,
<BR>I am new to benchmarking. The only thing I've done is run a few
benchmarks under windows 95/NT/3.11. I've never
<BR>done it for a unix system. I would however, like to compare the
performance of a linux box running on a pentium II
<BR>to a local server our department has on a sun system SunOS Generic_105181-11
sun4m sparc. I have root access to
<BR>the linux box, but will have to talk to the sysadmin about running
intensive tests. I do have a general user account on
<BR>the sun system. Please let me know of any good ways to compare
the system's performance in calculations, file access,
<BR>etc. I'll post the results to the newsgroup if I can obtain something
meaningful and learn something in the process.
<BR>
<PRE>Any comments appreciated. Please send them to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as well as this newsgroup.
Gordon Vrdoljak.</PRE>
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