Linux-Misc Digest #392, Volume #25 Wed, 9 Aug 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
setuid root perl script ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RTFM'ed to death.. (Rasputin)
NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 9 August 2000: GNU/Linux/Free OS Beginners Group Meeting
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RTFM'ed to death.. (Rasputin)
ipmasqadm - how to use it?? (irado furioso com tudo)
Re: "Turbo" and X-windows. (Florian Schmidt)
FIPS.EXE & NTFS ("Sylvain Brun")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
problems with RAT (robust audio tool) (Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ke=DFler?=)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
Re: Is there a software thesaurus for linux? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: xv bugs (William R. Mattil)
Re: taskbar disappearing under gnome (Andrew Purugganan)
Address Book or PIM for Linux? (J Garcia)
Re: Fortune won't run ("Michael")
Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: RTFM'ed to death.. (Bob Hauck)
Socket problems. (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Address Book or PIM for Linux? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Stewart Honsberger)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: setuid root perl script
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:17:46 GMT
I am writing a CGI script to change user e-mail forwarding configuration
which will copy /etc/mail/aliases.save to /etc/mail/aliases
and run "/usr/bin/newaliases"
but the script can't run successfully and the error log shows:
Insecure $ENV{PATH} while running setuid at /dev/fd/3 line 61, <FILE2>
chunk 133.
Why?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: RTFM'ed to death..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:58:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H.> wrote:
>I yanked out the old ISA modem and hooked up my old US Robotics Ext. 33.6
>Fax Modem >Model # 0413 .. FCC code CJEUSA-65828-FA-E..
Did that not work then? What have you tried?
>was a POS. I went to the Linux HOWTO site and have studied it. I have gone
>to the "big list" and this 33.6 is not listed.. but.. I have hope because
>all of the other EXT USRobotics seem to work. I am about to try to get COM 1
>(tty0) to respond to a new init string. But, as you my well be able to see,
>I don't have a clue.
I wouldn't say that, but it will help if we can see what you've tried.
What distro are you using?
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 9 August 2000: GNU/Linux/Free OS Beginners Group Meeting
Date: 9 Aug 2000 07:00:59 -0400
We are pleased to announce that this Wednesday, August 9th, 2000
Bruce Ingalls will give an introduction to the OS Shell (the command
environment for Unix-like systems including GNU/Linux and the free BSDs) at
our GNU/Linux/Free OS Beginners' meeting (see below).
Bio: Bruce is an active member of LXNY, NYLUG & http://www.cppsig.org/
who has been working with Linux compatible (Unix-like) systems for over 10
years, and Linux itself from before version 1.0. Bruce's daytime paid work
started as a system administrator, then moved on to C++, Java and Perl,
shell and web programming on Linux compatibles (usually Sun sparcs). Bruce
also posted an intro to installing Linux, which can be reached through
NYLUG's home page, or
http://www.cppsig.org/links/linux/
Currently, Bruce is working on EMacro, a free software project which
makes the Emacs editing system easy to install/configure.
EMacro is available from ftp://ftp.cppsig.org/pub/tools/emacs/
As usual, the meeting is free and open to the public. The meeting starts at
6:30 pm with general questions and answers.
The schedule is listed below but, as usual, the most up-to-date information
can be found at our current website at
http://www.eskimo.com/~lo/linux.
If you are planning to attend it would be helpful if you would follow
the attendance-counting link for this talk either here
(http://www.eskimo.com/~lo/linux/bingallsattend.html) or from the
website under the announcement of the meeting. This is to help us
estimate the number of attendees to expect, so please only follow the
link once for each person planning to attend.
Wednesday, August 9, 2000
6:30 Q&A
7:00 Bruce Ingalls
"Introduction to the OS Shell"
at CALC/Canterbury, 780 Third Ave. C-1, New York, NY
We are grateful to CALC/Canterbury for the space they are providing us
for our regular meetings the second Wednesday of each month.
(If you know of any sources willing to donate us additional space, good
speakers for future meetings, topics you want covered, or have
suggestions for our new web page which is currently under development,
please contact us.)
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Distributed poC TINC:
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: RTFM'ed to death..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:01:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Rasputin> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H.> wrote:
>>(tty0) to respond to a new init string. But, as you my well be able to see,
>>I don't have a clue.
>
>I wouldn't say that, but it will help if we can see what you've tried.
>What distro are you using?
Duh. Sorry, you said Mandrake, right?
What I mean is, are you using a config tool
or doing this from the command line?
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (irado furioso com tudo)
Subject: ipmasqadm - how to use it??
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:04:12 GMT
ipmasqadm - how to use it??
hi, all..
is there some "magic recipe" on how to compile/install this product??
When using from *.rpm (SuSE 6.2, yast-I) it simply disapear, leaving
no trace of itself at all.
Also tryed the *.tgz, but it claims that there are no its own
directory (folder).
greetings,
irado furioso com tudo
there are more crimes under religious consciousness
than under atheism.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Schmidt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: "Turbo" and X-windows.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:11:15 GMT
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:12:30 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Linux users!
>Was browsing through Award BIOS setup on motherboard that I intended to
>buy when I came to "Ctrl+Alt+ +/-" as a way to
>change the "Turbo" status.
>OK I know this from past, but to find it on mobo which boasts 112M bus
>clock was a little odd.
>Anyway, how would this affect the changing of resolution in X-windows
>and what will respond to it - mobo speed or screen or both?
>Thanks for answers...
when i bought my first pc (386dx with 4megs ram) i would read the
mainboard manual and find this swich, too. it never worked. i tried
and tried to switch the turbo on/off by hitting ctr-alt-+/-. i suppose
one can do that at a certain point in time during startup, but i never
found out (u know how much effort is put into designng
mainboard-manuals ("what the hell does this setting mean? well i'll
look into the manual. ah! 'enabled = feature enabled, disabled =
feature disabled'. hmm very informative..."). i suppose the switching
just doesn't work.. if i am wrong, i'd love to be corrected..
--
Florian Schmidt
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From: "Sylvain Brun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FIPS.EXE & NTFS
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:23:19 +0200
Hello,
I own a very, very old linux slackware (dec. 1996), and attempted
to install it on a hard drive actually used by NT WorkStation 4 (FAT NTFS)
For this reason, I can't use FIPS.EXE to minimise my NT partition,
because
it doesn't work with NTFS.
Could you tell me if any earlier "Fips" can do this, or else what other
tools
should I use ?
Great Thanks.
--
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Soci�t� INFOLOGIC - D�partement Sant�
T�l. 04 75 82 16 40 Fax 04 75 82 16 38
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 09 Aug 2000 07:30:28 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Robert Krawitz wrote:
> Okay. I agree that source codes are human readable. But most real human
> are not geeks or machineheads.
Totally irrelevant. Freedom of speech is not confined to speech
understood only by the majority of people.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ke=DFler?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with RAT (robust audio tool)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:37:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
does anybody know about the following problems I have with robust audio
tool (RAT):
1. The newer version (4.2.7) cannot be started without graphical user
interface or is there a trick?
2. An older version (3.0.33) starts without GUI but stops with the
error: "IP mutlticast join failed!" though I tried to start a unicast
session (with rat 192.168.0.2/10000)
Thank you
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 09 Aug 2000 07:32:34 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>
> > > Free market means just that: The Freedom to Trade with who ever and
> > > whatever (within legal limits) you want.
> > Does it? I think that's what usually called "Free Trade".
> > "Free Market" means letting the interaction between people
> > determine the price of goods.
> >
> It also means nothing to stop the seller to get the maximum amount of
> profits they want, as long as the market can bears it.
And nothing to stop other sellers from sniffing profit, jumping in,
and undercutting the first seller.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 09 Aug 2000 07:50:25 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
> >So. They have to spend all the money. One way or the other.
> >(I'm not talking about small business here. I'm talking about those that
> >get tens of million of dollar, or more for IT budget every year.)
>
> If departments save money on one thing, that can allow them to spend
> _more_ on other things. If they shovel less money into the pockets of
> Microsoft, Oracle, and IBM, for license fees, this can let them spend
> that money on _SOMETHING ELSE_.
>
> The principle might be called the "Law of Conservation of Spending,"
> which means that "If you find yourself under budget due to something
> costing less than expected, that provides the necessity to spend _more_
> on something else."
Actually, the Fishpot is somewhat correct about this, albeit probably
through no fault of his own here. Departments don't simply get a
budget, they get individual line items, and pretty much have to hit
budget on every one of those line items or watch next year's
allocation plummet.
I worked for one major supercomputer vendor some years back, and a
customer called me to ask whether a $100K front end to a $10M system
should be configured with a really trashy disk drive and seriously
insufficient memory vs. a merely trashy drive and woefully
insufficient memory. When I noted that the front end should be
configured with sufficient memory and a good drive, he explained that
they had a big pot of money for purchase of the supercomputer and a
much smaller pot for the front end system.
So yes, a department with an IT budget of $1M for software may well
feel compelled to buy more expensive software than they need just to
hit their budget. That doesn't mean that every department operates
under those constraints, but that sort of nonsense does happen.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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Subject: Re: Is there a software thesaurus for linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 9 Aug 2000 13:58:30 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Does anybody know if there is a good thesaurus available for linux?
>
>I do (almost) all my writing in LyX, and it would be very helpful to have an
>English thesaurus on my computer. Now I use StarOffice only for its thesaurus,
>but, in apart from up taking an unnecessary amount of memory, that is terribly
>awkward since I don't write my documents there. Is there a better alternative?
>
>Thanks,
>
>frank
Debian GNU/Linux has a package called 'wordnet' which is a off-line
version of the on-line WordNet service at
<URL:http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/>.
Once installed, try the commands 'wnb' and 'wn'.
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:46:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bobh{at}haucks{dot}org wrote:
> If the BIOS is set to boot from floppy, and the disk is a plain DOS
> floppy, then I have never seen a case where it would not boot from the
> floppy no matter what was up with the hard disk.
Well, you should have seen my PC when Redhat broke it. AFAIR I was
booting from a format /s disk, and it started up, said 'Booting Windows
98' or whatever that message is, then locked up.
> Then again, I use DR-DOS for this rather than MS-DOS,
> so who knows, maybe MS has been helping us out again.
I was able to boot the diagnostic floppy which came with the machine,
which was DR-DOS. However, while that could tell me that in theory
everything should have been working, I couldn't use it for fixing the
problem. Either way, it looks like it's an MS-DOS specific hang.
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:47:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen) wrote:
> In your case as well as in the case that began this thread, the
> problem could have been solved by changing one bit on the disk. The
> type (ID) of the extended partition should have been 85 (or 0F), not
> 05.
Thanks... that's useful to know for any future problems...
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Re: xv bugs
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:48:23 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I found the following bugs with xv:
>
>1) If I use xv to view a gif image which has a transparent background
> then when I save the gif the transparent background is saved as
> some other color.
>
>2) xv is unable to display X pixmaps whose definition includes the const
> qualifier (I don't know whether the const qualifier is allowed in
> the standard definition of an XPM but I have seen it there some times)
>
>I don't know where I should report these bugs
>so I thought I'd post them here.
You could probably try:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
That would probably be a good place to start. Also you may want to register
your copy ? BTW - all of this info is on the opening screen and if it is
no longer correct then I apologise in advance ....
Good Luck
Bill
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106 | and... in high heels.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: taskbar disappearing under gnome
Date: 9 Aug 2000 12:11:51 GMT
Matt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ hi all
[ i have a recurring problem with my taskbar in gnome. it keeps disappearing
[ on me, usually when i look away from the screen for a second or two.
[ has anyone ever had this problem? and, if so, how did you fix it?
[ are there any error files that gnome will write to in this case? as a
[ guess, i tried .xsession-errors, and nothing useful showed up.
Maybe it's not an error but the auto-hide feature at work
Go into the GNOME control center to uncheck it so that it is disabled
Otherwise, don't look away from the screen ;-)
FOr those with limited screen space (and unpaid bills) autohide can be a
good thing
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Address Book or PIM for Linux?
I am looking for an address book/PIM program for Linux
which would run in character mode (console app just
like the minicom program) with ability to export info
to text files. I am not interested in GNOME bloatware
apps btw. Anybody want to recommend their favorite
app? Thanks for replying.
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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fortune won't run
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:30:44 -0400
Thanks.
I did that and it worked. Got it to run on any users login also.
FYI. I have read Linux Unleashed (good book) and Linux Networking.
I will admit that I am new to Linux and need to learn more about
scripting and shells.
Thanks for the help.
Michael
Tino Keitel wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>Michael wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>> I am trying to get fortune to work in a startup script.
>> Before putting it in a script, I thought I would run it from the
command
>> line.
>> When I ran it in Bash, I got the error message that "command not
found".
>>
>> I went to the directory where the fortune command was (it is marked
>> executable), and still got the same error when I ran it.
>>
>> I re-installed the RPM from Redhat 6.2 (had to force reinstall it
>> because it said it was already present).
>> Still the same answer.
>>
>> If I go to the directory where thefortunes are kept (which is
different
>> from where the fortune executable is (by default, I didn't change it)
,
>> and double-click one of them, the fortune comes up.
>>
>> Any ideas? I know I will have to put it in the profile script (i
think),
>> but it should run from the command line.
>>
>> Michael
>> Linux newbie
>
>Put /usr/games in your PATH variable or execute /usr/games/fortune
>If you have any spare time, read an introduction to UNIX shells. ;-)
>
>Tino
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:42:50 GMT
On 07 Aug 2000 22:44:40 -0400, Michael Meissner wrote:
>> But how do I resize (make larger) my /var partition without trashing
>> everything in it?
>
>There are commercial programs (partition magic, revision 4.0 or later) that
>know how to resize Linux partitions, and I believe there is a GNU partition
>program that does the same thing. Whether it ships with Mandrake, I dunno.
I'd seen that also, but I'd be careful with it. Linux Journal did a study
on the ext2 resize support when PQMAGIC 5 first came out and commented that
it was a little flaky.
--
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: RTFM'ed to death..
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:43:37 GMT
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:53:34 -0500, Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I yanked out the old ISA modem and hooked up my old US Robotics Ext. 33.6
>Fax Modem Model # 0413
Ok, it should work. All external modems will work with Linux, provided
that your com port is set up right, the cable is good, and you use the
right init string in whatever software you are using.
>Any help with getting this modem working via COM 1.. well, words fail me..
Well, the first order of business is to make sure that we're all clear
that com1 in DOS is /dev/ttyS0 in Linux. It is common for installs to
make a symbolic link to /dev/modem, but it is equally common for that
to be missing or wrong if you changed modems since installing. So try
using the ttyS0 device first.
You should be able to start up some terminal program (e.g. kermit or
minicom or seyon) and configure it to talk to /dev/ttyS0. At that
point you should be able to type AT commands to the modem and make it
dial, etc. If that all works then you're well on your way.
So what have you done, and where did it fail? It might be helpful to
post the output of "setserial /dev/ttyS0".
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Socket problems.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:44:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all,
I have a (small) problem with some socket... I wrote a simple program
that basically open a socket and listen for connection, when a
connection is established, it simply dump on the consolle the data
received.
This is basically a "server".
Then I wrote a "client" that send a file to the server, before the
file a simple "header" is sent. I wrote both program so they can
be compiled in windows and in linux.
Now the problem: when I run the server on Windows and send data
from Windows (Windows to Windows), everything run fine. When I
run the server on Linux and send the data from Windows (Windows to
Linux), the server receive the "header" then wait forever for the
other data... the recv() takes forever!!!
What's going on ???
Any idea ??
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Address Book or PIM for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:49:44 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when J Garcia would say:
>I am looking for an address book/PIM program for Linux
>which would run in character mode (console app just
>like the minicom program) with ability to export info
>to text files. I am not interested in GNOME bloatware
>apps btw. Anybody want to recommend their favorite
>app? Thanks for replying.
Just like the long-talked-about SVGAlib-based web browser, this is
something that has been talked about, albeit not as much, but which has
not seen any serious attempt at implementation.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/pims.html>
"It seems certain that much of the success of Unix follows from the
readability, modifiability, and portability of its software."
-- Dennis M. Ritchie, September, 1979
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:51:23 GMT
On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:02:16 GMT, Svend Olaf Mikkelsen wrote:
>Well, I cannot boot to a DOS floppy, even if delete current hdc1 and
>make a primary FAT partition at 1 based cylinder 1 to 126, zeroes the
>boot sector (and backup boot sector if FAT32), and make that partition
>active, and insert the disk as hda.
Whoa.. What was it you just said? Are you trying to boot this HDD as
Primary Master, or is it located in another slot? Also, if you've been
working on this disk as 'hdc', why are you trying to use it as 'hda'?
>Now what? How can I then do format c: /s
Have you tried removing all perihperals from your machine excluding the
floppy drive, setting the BIOS to boot from A: first, and see what happens?
(By 'all peripherals' I mean everything but the floppy drive, video card,
keyboard, and power cable.).
If it still won't boot, you've got a problem with your floppy drive, or your
BIOS isn't configured properly for the type of floppy you've got. Double-
check the BIOS settings and ensure that the floppy is set to the correct
density (most commonly 1.44MB, 3 1/2"), the correct position (ie: If it's the
only floppy drive, it should be configured as the first floppy drive) and
that "Floppy Drive Switching" is disabled.
If it still won't boot - check the floppy drive light when the computer boots.
Does it remain solid? If so, you've got a backwards cable.
Another possibility (no, I'm not insulting you. I do this for a living and
*I'VE* done this many times) is to check the floppy drive's power cable.
Depending on the drive model, age of the drive, and/or the age of the power
supply, the 'tit' that holds the power cable in place could be worn down
and not holding in place properly. Otherwise, you may have knocked it out
of place by accident yourself.
If and when you do finally get your floppy drive to boot and see an 'A:\>'
prompt, slowly start re-inserting your perihperals. Start with your HDD,
boot to the floppy and format your partitions the way you'd like them, then
add your CDROMS and try again. If you can still boot, replace the rest of
your peripherals and you should be good to go.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:53:59 GMT
On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:01:24 GMT, Svend Olaf Mikkelsen wrote:
>>I don't know, but I would suggest that if you can't boot DOS from the
>>*floppy* when this disk is in the system, then you have a hardware
>>problem and partition tables are the least of your worries. Perhaps
>>there is an IRQ or IO port conflict, or some sort of BIOS bug.
>
>This is not the correct answer. Actually it is completely wrong.
What's your reasoning for this response?
BTW - it's common netiquette when you tell somebody that they're "completely
wrong" to back it up with an explanation including some facts. Thus far I
haven't seen anything posted that would indicate how a poorly partitioned
hard disk could affect floppy disk boot capabilities.
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