Linux-Misc Digest #402, Volume #19 Wed, 10 Mar 99 16:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Procedural programming in ML (was: Microkernels are an ...) (Roger Espel Llima)
Re: Kernel 2.2.2 Intel (E. Frank Ball)
Re: Debian 2.0 & Compaq PS/2 keyboard (**Nick Brown)
Linux setup ("Georges Heinesch")
Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Thomas Weeks)
Re: Printing problem (Len Cuff)
Re: hunh, case obsolete, use switch! oh <explitive deleted> ???? (Jack P.
Starrantino)
Re: Problem mounting Windows drive (steve mcadams)
/dev/audio problems (Gerard Motola)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Colin Day)
KDE question (Brian Lehr)
Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Richard Nelson)
AOL Instant Messanger for UNIX (eric)
[RFC] Linux in the Enterprise (Gary Lawrence Murphy)
Adding PERL to the path ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Public license question (Simon Hill)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Espel Llima)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Procedural programming in ML (was: Microkernels are an ...)
Date: 10 Mar 1999 20:04:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rickard Westman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>But SML and OCaml are not constrained to the functional
>programming flavor. In fact, they contain plenty of features
>to support non-functional programming. You say that you
>learned some CAML once, and it seems like you have formed an
>opinion of ML based on that experience. I'm not very familiar
>with the classical CAML (older than Caml Light) but it seems
we used Caml Light actually... I think the only thing we ever used the
older Caml for was making computers swap.
>plausible that imperative/procedural programming would appear
>awkward or ugly in that language, since such features were not
>central in the theory-laden environment where CAML was born.
>
>What I do know is that SML (Standard ML) is quite nice for
>procedural programming. Like you, I am not too enthusiastic
>about pure functional programming, but SML does not force that
>paradigm down your throat. Programs in SML can be as
>procedural as you want without looking ugly.
Yeah, that sounds nice. The thing is though, if I'm not intending to
program in the functional ididom, why go look for a functional language?
It's not like there's a scarcity of procedural languages out there, with
wide support and all.
Like I said, I'll consider using a functional programming language for a
project if it's not my decision, or if it's a great, obvious advantage
for such a project (e.g someone wants to formalize the specs and have
them machine-proved, or something like that). Otherwise, I just don't
see the point at all.
>The fact that the language supports
>functional programming does not imply that it is unsuitable
>for procedural programming.
I could also use C++ in a non-OO way, but why bother? It'd only made my
code weird both to C and C++ hackers.
--
Roger Espel Llima, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/espel/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E. Frank Ball)
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.2 Intel
Date: 7 Mar 1999 21:57:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:36:46 +0000 Jason Clifford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
} Your /dev/mouse currently points to /dev/cua0. /dev/cua? devices have been
} depreciated and are no longer present in the 2.2.x kernel series.
} You should be able to fix the problem by simply entering the following
} command as root:
} ln -sf /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse
} which will recreate the link to /dev/mouse using /dev/ttyS0 which is the
} correct way to refer to a serial port using kernel 2.2.x.
} Jason Clifford
} Definite Linux Systems
} http://definite.ukpost.com/
I'm having a similar problem with my laptop. I upgraded to 2.2.1 and
got an error that it didn't like my modem linked to /dev/cua3, so I
changed it to /dev/ttyS3. Worked fine until I rebooted. Every time I
reboot RedHat 5.2 resets the links in /dev back to the cua format.
What the hell is going on? I added a kludge to rc.local to reset the
modem to /dev/ttyS3 every time I boot. It works, but it isn't pretty.
I unloaded all the linuxconf stuff, but it still does it.
--
Frank Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian 2.0 & Compaq PS/2 keyboard
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:28:56 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The base kernel in Debian 2.0 is 2.0.34, and the /vmlinuz kernel should
work just fine. If you've rebuilt the kernel and removed keyboard
support by accident, of course... but every keyboard since about 1989
has been "PS/2", hasn't it ?
Tim Coninx wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I tried to install Debian 2.0 on a compaq with a PS/2 keyboard. Installation
> went perfect, but when I tried to boot from a boot disk. The keyboard wasn't
> working _at all_ .
>
> Are there special modules to install with a ps2 keyboard ??
>
> The strange thing is that, when installing, the keyboard works fine. I suppose
> the bootdisk created at install time contains the same kernel, not ?
>
> Tim
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Date: 10 Mar 99 14:23:54 +0100
From: "Georges Heinesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux setup
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Some Linux networking question ;))
When dialing into IBM, I get a dynamic IP. Hence my computer can be
addresses with (e.g.) "slip-111-111-111-111.lux.lu.ibm.net". Now, I
would like to call my computer "foobar", so that I can access it
without knowing the IP address. The call would be
"foobar.lux.lu.ibm.net".
I was looking into many books, many man pages, many files
(/etc/resolv.conf, ...), but didn't get an answer.
Is it possible to configure Linux that way?
--
Cu Georges Heinesch, Luxembourg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/2480
PGP 2.6.3i / 5.1i public key on request and on public servers
... never touch a running system ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Weeks)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No-Win Modem Situation
Date: 10 Mar 1999 15:45:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Why does it have to be an internal? An external modem is guarenteed
>to be a true modem.
Not any more... With the new Winmodems.. and now just some of the USB modems
that are not even BILLED as Winmodems: They are just analog phone line
interfaces with a USB insterface. The processor does all DSP/Modem emulation.
Only stick to true AT-command/serial units.
> If it must be an internal, stay away from PCI based modems. Most
>(99%) are winmodems. Price is also a good indicator, if it cost
>$14.95, it's a winmodem.
> -bob
>Hugh Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I'm having a hard time trying to find a good internal modem (at a good
>> price) that will work with RedHat. Today I bought a Viking v.90, which
>> said nothing on the box about being a WinModem or requiring Windows or
>> anything of the sort. The techie behind the service counter said it
>> would work with Linux. So I brought it home, plugged it in, and it was
>> 100% WinModem crap. Now I'm afraid to buy anything else unless I'm
>> really sure it'll work. Does anybody have any specific suggestions
>> (make & model)? What about the Zoom 2919? www.zoomtel is no-tell.
>> Where can I find this info? Thanks.
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing problem
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:15:54 +0000
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J.M. Paden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I have SuSE 6 installed and use apsfilter/Ghostprint5.5 to print to my
>>Epson600 Color. It works OK but when I print for example lpr /etc/hosts,
>>it always prints in landscape when I want portrait. Seems that landscape
>>is the default somehow. When I use Star Office it prints fine but
>>WordPerfect 8 goes back to landscape again even though I set up the
>>printer as portrait ! How can I set it to default to portrait all the
>>time ??
>>Cheers,
>> Len
>
>
Spot on -thanks. I changed the setting in /etc/apsfilterrc and it's
fixed WordPerfect as well !
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack P. Starrantino)
Subject: Re: hunh, case obsolete, use switch! oh <explitive deleted> ????
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:06:33 -0500
Joe (theWordy) Philbrook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm working on a shell script in bash on my linux now and wanted to
: refresh my memory on how to test for more than one pattern in a
: case $variable in ^M pattern) command;; expresion.
$ man bash # then search for 'case'
jps
--
Jack P. Starrantino [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.voicenet.com/~jpps
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Problem mounting Windows drive
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:47:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I recently upgraded LILO to version 21. Since I installed it however I
>have been unable to mount my Windows drive. When I try, mount reports:
>
>mount: wrong fs type or bad superblock on /dev/hda1
>
>What's more, I can't boot Windows. When I boot from a Windows floppy it
>acts as though the drive is not formatted. Could LILO's installation
>process have overwritten something on /dev/hda that tells the bios what
>format it is? If so, can I restore it? I didn't actually format the
>drive so all the data must still be there, I just can't get to it. Does
>anyone know of a utility, Linux or DOS, which allows you to edit the raw
>data on a disk and know what the data should be?
>
>Finally, the question I fear I don't want to hear the answer to: Am I
>screwed? Have I inadvertently blown away my Windows stuff?
You may or may not be screwed. I assume you were mounting the drive
as vfat both before and after, right? If not you probably should be
(unless it's an NTFS drive or something).
It sounds like you told LILO to install in the MBR? Check the LILO
man pages very carefully. I am pretty sure there is an uninstall
option that will tell it to replace the old MBR. This might get you
back into business, as long as you haven't installed LILO twice since
it was working the way you wanted it to.
Personal opinion: As long as you want to dual-boot Linux and Windoze,
do not ever let LILO install in the MBR. Always have it install in
the boot partition. Use some windoze-friendly boot manager to select
your multi-boot of the day. I have heard that LILO will happily do
all your multi-boot functionality, -but- I am not confident that a
reinstall of any windoze version will not stomp on something, so I
like to hide the fact that I'm running Linux from windoze, to keep it
from crapping out my Linux install. YMMV.
____________________________________________________________________________
"Always enforce your assumptions." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: Gerard Motola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: /dev/audio problems
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:15:53 -0800
When i try to do cat something.au > /dev/audio I get an error.
[gtm@gtm gtm]$ cat /usr/share/afterstep/desktop/meepmeep.au > /dev/audio
bash: /dev/audio: Operation not supported by device
What's the problem?
My computer has a PII 350, 128 MB SDRAM, 4.5 gig SCSI HD, SB AWE64
sound, RedHat Linux 5.2...
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From: Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 06:25:39 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <7b6egf$h4s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Robert Shepard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
> > <7b6bad$73l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Ryan Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > ><some deletia>
> > >
> > >> > > 3. More Hardware support
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, but oh so crappy drivers...
> > >>
> > >> I rather have a Winmodem with crappy drivers than a useless card in Linux
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > <other stuff deleted>
> >
> > >And if you get stuck with problems while swapping modems, just try to get
> > >some help from MacroShaft. There's plenty of relevant information in the
> > >Windows Help files (NOT) and also lots of useful advice on the M$ website
> > >(double knot). It's almost as if it never occurred to them that someone
> > might
> > >want to change their hardware after the initial install.
> >
> > Ok- my .02 worth: MS doesn't write their stuff for the users who want
> > to change things (hardware or software)
> > around. That's not their customer base. Their users are (mostly) the "turn
> > it on and run the apps" group. And that's fine. Somebody has to look after
> > that market. I personally don't believe that MS can (or should) be an OS for
> > the people who want to get their hands dirty. Bottom line though, is you can
> > do Linux type activities in MS, and vice-versa, but its better to use each
> > for what its best at. I wouldn't write a thesis in vi, e.g.
>
Neither would I, but I'm an emacs kind of guy.
>
> Operating systems should support hardware changes. Period. Swapping out a
> modem is not at all "Linux type". I have upgraded hardware on old machines
> and have had to swap out hardware on newer machines for reasons of
> compatibility. It's very common for people to want to upgrade their machine
> in some way, or switch to another piece of hardware. This is probably done
> more on Windows machines than on Linux machines simply because there are more
> of them.
>
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From: Brian Lehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE question
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 05:14:32 +0000
I'm in the process of setting up KDE. Everything installed fine.
However, when I try to start it, I get the following message:
kpanel: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.1: undefined symbol: sizeHint__C8QListBox
I get the same message in regards to several files, including kwmsound,
kcontrol, kwm, etc.
The lib file is a link in the same directory to libkdecore.so.1.0.0,
which is there.
What needs to be corrected?
Brian
--
A computer is like an air conditioner -- the moment you open Windows, it
ceases to work properly!
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From: Richard Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No-Win Modem Situation
Date: 10 Mar 1999 19:32:22 GMT
Hello,
Here is some insight for you guys.
1) Hello,
My name is Richard Nelson, and I am a Technical support engineer for
Actiontec Electronics, INC
We do have a PCI modem that is NOT a "Win" modem, it is controller based,
and uses the Lucent Venus chipset.
I need as much help as I can possibly get for this, as I would like it to
become the first officially supported PCI modem for Linux, and I repeat,
it IS CONTROLLER based, NOT windows based, etc....
My direct number is 408-548-4772
and my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you
2) The Actiontec DESKLINK MASTER works great under Linux
Robert Barnes wrote:
> Why does it have to be an internal? An external modem is guarenteed
> to be a true modem.
> If it must be an internal, stay away from PCI based modems. Most
> (99%) are winmodems. Price is also a good indicator, if it cost
> $14.95, it's a winmodem.
> -bob
> Hugh Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I'm having a hard time trying to find a good internal modem (at a good
> > price) that will work with RedHat. Today I bought a Viking v.90, which
> > said nothing on the box about being a WinModem or requiring Windows or
> > anything of the sort. The techie behind the service counter said it
> > would work with Linux. So I brought it home, plugged it in, and it was
> > 100% WinModem crap. Now I'm afraid to buy anything else unless I'm
> > really sure it'll work. Does anybody have any specific suggestions
> > (make & model)? What about the Zoom 2919? www.zoomtel is no-tell.
> > Where can I find this info? Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eric)
Subject: AOL Instant Messanger for UNIX
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:32:42 GMT
Hi,
I was wondering if AOL Instant messanger for unix will work with
Linux, more specific, Slackware 3.6?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.largsites
Subject: [RFC] Linux in the Enterprise
Date: 10 Mar 1999 15:24:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is an urgent call for comments and ideas.
This morning, I was approached by a major publisher to put together a
fast proposal for a new book on the general topic "Linux in the
Enterprise". I believe they are in a small panic in the wake of
LinuxWorld, the IBM announcements and the whole mass of recent
mainstream publicity on PenguinPower; my editor tells me our chances
for approval are "very good"
My proposal goes before the acceptance board tomorrow morning and I
have until about 6pm Eastern Standard Time to prepare an initial table
of contents outlining the topics such a reference should contain. I
have my own ideas, but as important stakeholders in what my book might
accomplish, I am interested in your own thoughts and concerns about
the topics which must be included in such a reference. If you have a
moment to send me your ideas, I will be most grateful.
Also, if you are involved in existing Linux enterprise-scale
applications, I would be interested in making contact as, should this
project be approved, I would like to include a section on case
studies, including both the roaring successes and even the stellar
failures (we can always learn from mistakes) If you would be interested
in contributing your experience, please let me know.
Best regards,
--
| _) Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
__| __| | \ TeleDynamics Communications Inc
| ( | \_/ http://www.teledyn.com/ ICQ#6023820
\__|\___|_| Don't oppose forces. Use them. (RBF)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Adding PERL to the path
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:34:24 GMT
I'm sure that this is a simple matter to do, but I need an experts advise.
I need to add the "command" perl (/usr/local/perl) to my path so that I can
execute perl scripts without having to type the word perl first.
Could someone tell me how to do this?
I would appreciate any and all directives.
(Using RH5.2 w/Apache server.)
TIA
Michael
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From: Simon Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:45:26 -0600
Barry Margolin wrote:
>
> Using what mechanism? The GPL is only enforceable by virtue of copyright
> law. Although it refers to itself as a license, I suspect that it would
> be considered as unenforceable as a shrinkwrap license. But copyright law
> provides the basis for setting restrictions on copying.
>
Actually, shrinkwrap licenses have been held enforceable, subject to
three conditions.
See http://www.urich.edu/jolt/v3i1/hawkins.html
--
Simon Hill ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Operating Systems Specialist
Department of Utilities
University of Texas
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