Linux-Misc Digest #402, Volume #26 Sun, 26 Nov 00 18:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: shutdown vs halt (Dan Amborn)
Re: Netscape 6 (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: Where can I get a pre-built POSE for Linux ? (Stuart Bell)
Ideas for install script? (Kyle Parfrey)
Re: Configuring Linux for ADSL (Sympatico) (John-Paul Stewart)
Re: ACL's i Linux filesystems, where is the discussion (Michel Marcon)
simple alias question (Dan)
Re: ACL's i Linux filesystems, where is the discussion
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Joystick driver help ? (Arctic Storm)
Re: simple alias question (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Re: Looking for good Embedded Linux board (Vlastimil Pohnetal)
Help on rescuing my linux os on my PC (Jianxin Wang)
Re: Unique SB Awe problem, please help. (B. L. Jilek)
Re: Help on rescuing my linux os on my PC (Andreas Schweitzer)
glx , Suse 7.0 , X crashes system. (Prasanth Mudundi)
Re: Mounting RH partition from old Slackware System (ljb)
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From: Dan Amborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown vs halt
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:22:45 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 Nov 2000 19:01:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dan Amborn =
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>]What exactly is the -t switch good for anyway?
>
>It is an internal timer which tells shutdown to wait n seconds between
>killing programs and changing run levels. It gives the programs time to
>shut down, if they need the time. If they do not, this will do nothing.
ahhh so thats why it doesn't do anything. Its all clear now.
>
>
>]I use the command
>
>]shutdown -r +2 now
>Which makes not sense. th e +2 says, wait two minutes befor shutting
>down. The now means wait 0 minutes befor shutting down (now is an alias
>for +0). Read the shutdown man page.
>man shutdown
OK so I was executing it twice. When I typed the above it just would
wait two minutes before shutting down. Thanks for all the carification.
Both of you.
--
Dan Amborn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yoda of Borg are we: Futile is resistance. Assimilate you, we will.
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:12:46 +0100
[snip]
If i decide to try it, how hard is it to get rid of it (to cleanly
uninstall it?).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Bell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Where can I get a pre-built POSE for Linux ?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:34:20 +0000
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've attached the "make.out" file, that has the error messages.
So you have, you stupid idiot. Several hundred lines of code. Totally
inexcusable for non-binary newsgroups. You'll need more than a
spam-shield if you do it again; more like a new ISP. ;-)
--
Macaddict at Tesco dot net:
Looking for a slot-load iMac service manual!
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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ideas for install script?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:43:35 GMT
Hello there:
I am trying to install an old program called chaos analyser, but the
installing script is very
old and doesn't seem to work with new distributions. Just in case anyone
knows a quick solution
or change to make it work (on mandrake 7.1) here is the installer (it
keeps saying that it can't
find the xview headers even though xview is installed) :
#!/bin/sh
#gcc -O4 -I/usr/include -L/usr/lib -R/usr/X11R6/lib "$1".c -o "$1"
-lxview -lolgx -lX11 -lm gcc -I/usr/include -L/usr/lib "$1".c
-o "$1" -lxview -lolgx -lX11 -lm
Could I use the configure script instead somehow?
Thanks
Kyle
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From: John-Paul Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configuring Linux for ADSL (Sympatico)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:03:40 GMT
Glitch wrote:
>
> maybe check linuxdos.org, they have a cable modem howto. they might have
> an adsl howto as well but not sure.
> ever try doing a search on the Net?????
>
> WME wrote:
> >
> > I checked Slackware's website, but didn't find anything for that !! Any
> > ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
Also, check out Sympatico's own site. Do a search in their
"Help" section for "Linux." There is some limited
documentation and a couple of downloads if you look for
them.
J-P Stewart
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel Marcon)
Subject: Re: ACL's i Linux filesystems, where is the discussion
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:27:43 GMT
Hi.
First of all, ACLs are not a must to irganize information. You could
make without it. However, in a sense, you are right, it's usefull.
Linux filesystem ext2fs has a place to put acl (just fumble in the
include files for the inode structure).
Here are some links to ACL implementations/discussions, etc..
http://lwn.net/1999/0715/a/ext2ACL.html
http://lwn.net/1999/1007/kernel.phtml
http://acl.bestbits.at/
http://aerobee.informatik.uni-bremen.de/acl_eng.html
very HTH
cmic
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:42:10 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have seen much information on new file systems as ext3, xfs, ReiserFS
>etc. There is a lot of talk out there about big file systems and
>journaling but where is the discussion on ACL's in linux.
>
>I think that to have a manageable file system we need ACL's added to files
>and directories. I think that this is very important but I do not see any
>indication of any advances in this field. Do YOU know why.
>
>Even in small systems with maybe less the 50 users, you have to group users
>in a ways that is logical and, to some extent, resembles the real world.
>Without ACL's this is not really possible. Well it can be done of cause,
>but things easily get to complicated to manage.
>
>
>I would appreciate any information on this subject or any information on
>where to get it.
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>Bo Jacobsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
================================
Michel Marcon
Sysadmin UNIX & Windows NT (I try)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:38:23 -0500
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: simple alias question
Hi everyone,
I'm running bash, and I want to know how to make simple alias', for
instance if I wanted to telnet into a server, instead of typing 'telnet
somebox.somehost.com' I can just type 'telnet somebox' where somebox is
equivalence to somebox.somehost.com. I would assume I have to set the
alias in the '.bashrc' what exactly is it that I would have to put
there?
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Subject: Re: ACL's i Linux filesystems, where is the discussion
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:34:18 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
El d�a Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:42:10 +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�:
> I have seen much information on new file systems as ext3, xfs, ReiserFS
> etc. There is a lot of talk out there about big file systems and
> journaling but where is the discussion on ACL's in linux.
>
> I think that to have a manageable file system we need ACL's added to files
> and directories. I think that this is very important but I do not see any
> indication of any advances in this field. Do YOU know why.
> [...]
> I would appreciate any information on this subject or any information on
> where to get it.
>
You are nearly right: it has no much sense to focus on new and better
filesystems while forgetting ACL at the same time. There is a project to
implement POSIX ACL in Linux, with homepage at http://acl.bestbits.at/
The project progresses steadly, but maybe a bit slow. It is focused on
providing ACL attributes for the ext2 Linux filesystem. It's a pity we
can't get (by now) both large file sizes, ACL and LVM.
Maybe some of the commercial filesystem ports out there provide this.
--
Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez
Linux Registered User #189436 Debian GNU/Linux Potato (P166 64 MB RAM)
jdomingo EN internautas PUNTO org => � Spam ? Atente a las consecuencias
jdomingo AT internautas DOT org => Spam at your own risk
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Joystick driver help ?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:05:11 GMT
Joystick driver help ?
I'm not a neophyte to Linux, but fairly new.
I have Intel D815EEA motherboard that has integrated sound, and a game
port.
I'm using RedHat Linux 7.0.
I bought a RadioShack 8 Fire Button Digital Gamepad, which resembles the
PSX gamepad without the Start/Select buttons, and plugged it into the
gameport.
I'm having trouble installing the Linux Joystick driver,
joystick-1.2.15.
I'm stuck on the first step. Here's a line from the README file.
".... edit the Makefile to meet your needs (namely whether are you using
versioned modules)."
Edit what?!... Meet my needs?!... Then the instruction says,
"You will also need an unpacked and configured make config kernel in
/usr/src/linux"
What the hell,... I can't follow the instructions.
I went to the RPM repository and found joystick-1.2.15-5-i386.rpm.
I installed the rpm in root account; no errors.
I issued the command jstest /dev/js0, and I got the following error.
jstest: No such device
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Subject: Re: simple alias question
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:55:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
El d�a Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:38:23 -0500,
Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm running bash, and I want to know how to make simple alias', for
> instance if I wanted to telnet into a server, instead of typing 'telnet
> somebox.somehost.com' I can just type 'telnet somebox' where somebox is
> equivalence to somebox.somehost.com. I would assume I have to set the
> alias in the '.bashrc' what exactly is it that I would have to put
> there?
>
> Dan
>
Try inserting a static hostname/IP association in your /etc/hosts file.
The syntaxis is as follows:
192.168.1.10 machina.domain.you alias1 alias2 alias3
--
Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez
Linux Registered User #189436 Debian GNU/Linux Potato (P166 64 MB RAM)
jdomingo EN internautas PUNTO org => � Spam ? Atente a las consecuencias
jdomingo AT internautas DOT org => Spam at your own risk
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From: Vlastimil Pohnetal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.arch.embedded
Subject: Re: Looking for good Embedded Linux board
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:17:20 +0100
See mitePC-S or -F board (system) at
http://www.mite.cz/mitepc
http://www.mite.cz/emserver
or
http://www.mite.cz/miterouter
And EMJ Linux package at ftp server.
Best Regards
V. Pohnetal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mite.cz
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Ioi Lam wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a low-power Linux board, something equivalent to a cell
> phone or a Palm, in terms of power and performance characteristics. Any
> good recommendations? We need:
>
> + Good development env (incl OS and compiler support)
>
> + Easy to get started (i.e, not having to spend 10 hours to
> figure out "how do I download my binary image on the damn
> thing)
>
> + Serial I/O. Ethernet is desirable but not required
>
> + VGA out desirable but not required?
>
> Thanks in advance! Please CC your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Ioi
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From: Jianxin Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help on rescuing my linux os on my PC
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:32:09 -0500
Hi , I have Linux mandrak 7.0 installed on my PC. Yestoday, I
accidentally changed the configuration file (XF86Setup), and afterward,
I can not start the X server. The os constantly tries to start the
server, and left the screen blank most of the time. Is there any fix for
it? I guess that I may have to use the flopy boot disk to start the os
or reinstall the os, but something suprizing happened after I tried to
put the flopy into the drive: lilo ignores the flopy disk and still
tries to start the os from the hard drive(I am sure the flopy drive is
woring properly) ! I guess that I may need to change the CMOS settings,
so I rebooted the machine and hitted the DEL key to invoke the CMOS
setup, I got another surprise: I can not access the CMOS setup screen!
the computer askes me to "Please enter current password:"!
I have never setup any password using the option of the setup superuser
password in the CMOS, I had no trouble before in accessing the CMOS
setup. What had happed here? What should I do to enable the CMOS access
and rescue my linux os? Please help!
JW
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B. L. Jilek)
Subject: Re: Unique SB Awe problem, please help.
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:05:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:26:36 -0500, Doug Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all. Well I seem to be having a rather unique problem, since I
>searched all the comp.os.linux archives and didn't find a similar post.
> Here goes. I have an ISA awe 64 on a debian 2.2 system with gnome and
>enlightenment. I have configured isapnp.conf and it appears to load on
>boot just fine. The modules appear to load but when I check /dev/sndstat
>the card or loaded drivers do not show up. When I run modprobe -a sound
>trace_init=1 it doesn't return any info about the drivers. I've got
>sound through the elightenment sound daemon, window clicks and random
>theme sounds and such, but, I cannot get any other sound program to
>access the audio device. I get 'cannot open audio device'. The owner
>ship of all the sound files have been changed to the group root.audio
>and all users have been added to the group.
> Attached is excerpts from /var/log/messages, /etc/modules/
>/etc/modules.conf, output of cat /dev/sndstat.
>
Try adding
(VERIFYLD N)
to the top of your isapnp.conf file.
--
B. L. Jilek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | ICQ: 83785391
GPG key: DSS 420837E6 | Linux user: 163800
PGP key: DSS 0x59D04FF1 RSA 0x83C89D21 | Slackware 7.1 SuSE 7.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Schweitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help on rescuing my linux os on my PC
Date: 26 Nov 2000 22:56:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jianxin Wang wrote:
>Hi , I have Linux mandrak 7.0 installed on my PC. Yestoday, I
>accidentally changed the configuration file (XF86Setup), and afterward,
>I can not start the X server. The os constantly tries to start the
>server, and left the screen blank most of the time. Is there any fix for
>it? I guess that I may have to use the flopy boot disk to start the os
If Mandrake 7.0 is sufficiently similar to Mandrake 7.2 (which
I have), try to boot with
linux 3
when at the Lilo prompt. That should put you in runlevel 3 which
does not automatically start X.
Then you can fix XF86Config.
>or reinstall the os, but something suprizing happened after I tried to
>put the flopy into the drive: lilo ignores the flopy disk and still
>tries to start the os from the hard drive(I am sure the flopy drive is
>woring properly) ! I guess that I may need to change the CMOS settings,
>so I rebooted the machine and hitted the DEL key to invoke the CMOS
>setup, I got another surprise: I can not access the CMOS setup screen!
>the computer askes me to "Please enter current password:"!
>I have never setup any password using the option of the setup superuser
>password in the CMOS, I had no trouble before in accessing the CMOS
>setup. What had happed here? What should I do to enable the CMOS access
>and rescue my linux os? Please help!
My Motherboard has a jumper that resets the BIOS password.
If yours does not have such a thing, you have to remove the battery
from the BIOS for a few seconds to reset the BIOS.
Andreas
--
Andreas Schweitzer
http://dilbert.physast.uga.edu/~andy/
This post is brought to you by VIM, slrn and FreeBSD
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From: Prasanth Mudundi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glx , Suse 7.0 , X crashes system.
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:53:41 -0500
I am running suse 6.4 and upgraded to 7.0 professional
i then updated Xfree4.0 to Xfree4.0.1 from Suse.
the system is up an running. However i cannot get
Glx to work even after installing from Suse ftp server.
if i include load "glx" in my XF86Xconfig it does come up clean
whenever i run xtraceroute the screen goes out of freq ranges and does
not come back(monitor is sony multiscan 100GS)
i don't get any errors that point to Nvidia Glx extensions from Suse.
How can i get this (glx) to work either from suse or nvidia.
i have PII -400Mhz with a viper 770 ultra.
running suse 7 prof and Xfree4.0.1
thanks for your time.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: Mounting RH partition from old Slackware System
Date: 26 Nov 2000 23:01:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I recently installed Redhat 6.2 on a second IDE hard drive (/dev/hdc)
>and it works fine. However on the first hard drive (/dev/hda) I'm still
>running Slackware 96 with the 2.0.0 kernel. I can mount /dev/hda2
>from the Redhat system with: mount -t ext2 -r /dev/hda2 /mnt
>No problem there. But if I try to mount a redhat partition from the
>Slackware system, I get:
>
>EXT2-fs: 02:00: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features.
>mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc7, or too
>many mounted file systems.
>
>The partition table on the Redhat disk isn't what I'd intended since I
>used Disk Druid, and it put the DOS partition, which I wanted on
>/dev/hdc1 on /dev/hdc5, and the DOS partition fails to mount on bootup
>with about the same error message: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
>superblock on /dev/hdc5, or too many mounted file systems.
>
>I can live without the DOS partition on /dev/hdc and work around the
>inability to mount /dev/hdc7 on the /mnt directory in Slackware, but it
>would help to know why the mount will work from RH to Slackware, but not
>the other way around. Any ideas?
The EXT2 filesystem went through a revision between your two releases,
as the message indicates. It is possible to make an EXT2 filesystem under
the new release which can be read by the old one (see man mke2fs and the
"-O none" option), but of course it's too late for your RH6.2. You
could consider upgrading your Slackware... this would let you mount
the RH partitions.
The message you are getting about the DOS partition is different. The
problem could be that hdc5 isn't really the right partition you think
it is, or it could be you don't have the necessary modules (fat + vfat
or fat + msdos).
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