Linux-Misc Digest #427, Volume #19 Fri, 12 Mar 99 13:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix (Elias Martenson)
Re: Red Hat beginner questions ("Thomas S. Urban")
Re: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter does.
(Jonathan Stowe)
Re: Hotmetal Pro (jas shultz)
Re: gcc: cannot specify -o with -c and multiple compilations (Christoph Haenle)
make bzImage? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Making a bootdisk for rescue purposes (Igor Zlatkovic)
Re: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter does.
(Flagstaff Candace)
Re: Linux setup ("Georges Heinesch")
Re: VNC xstartup (grey screen) - $DISPLAY problems? (Sean McEwan)
Re: V.90 ISA Modems!?!?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: problem upgrading util-linux (Eric Brager)
Re: Linux setup (brian moore)
Re: ipfwadm? ("Denton")
Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dont understand Configuration message ("Charles P. Koerner")
CD autorun ("Penna")
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From: Elias Martenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix
Date: 12 Mar 1999 17:02:07 +0100
Ralf Draeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthew Kirkcaldie wrote:
> >
> > D. Vrabel wrote:
> >
> > >> [*] I'm referring to an American "billion" here. That's
> > >> a "milliard" to you out there 'cross the pond who
> > >> prefer to think of a "billion" as a "million million".
> > >You're a bit out of date. A billion in the UK is a thousand million.
> >
> > Then you've adopted the US meaning, because it certainly was originally a
> > million million in UK parlance.
> >
> > MK.
>
> Just to give ken a credit a billion is a million million in germany and
> yes, sometimes it is a little bit confusing :-)
> Having the same words with different meanings in other languages makes
> it even harder to learn and i know I have to learn english sometime ...
I'm pretty sure that very few people is interested in knowing that
Swedish is that same as German in this respect (biljon = 1E12,
miljard = 1E9).
There! Hope you all feel good about this piece of utterly useless
information. :-)
--
Elias Martenson
elias.martenson (atsign) sweden.sun.com
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From: "Thomas S. Urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat beginner questions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:36:05 GMT
Gerald Willmann wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Karl Bengtsson wrote:
>
> > 1) I've downloaded Netscape (gold 3.04), and it was a *.tar.gz file. Now
> > I've gnunzipped it , how do I untar it? And in where? (currently it's in
> > /root)
> tar -tvf filename to look what's in there, tar -xvf filename to extract.
> you could have used tar -t/xvzf on the *.tar.gz file directly. Do man tar
> to find info about tar. As for directories - your choice: /tmp perhaps
Also, get in the practice of downloading packages and doing
other routine stuff as some other user besides root. Here's what
you might generally do to install software off the net (tarred stuff):
1. download as a normal user - say in /home/bob
2. look at contents of package
%zcat package.tar.gz | tar tvf -
3. if the tar puts everything in its own subdirectory, fine.
If not,
%mkdir tempdir; cd tempdir
4. untar the package
%zcat package.tar.gz | tar xvf -
I use the zcat pipe combo rather than tar xvzf to save a few
keystrokes - after examining the contents with tar tvf -, hit
the up arrow, back up a few spaces, and change the t to an x
5. read docs in package;
%less README* INSTALL* etc.
6. build according to instructions
7. if the package wants to you to install as root, see what
will happen first:
% make -n install
will tell you what will happen when you actually install
8. finally, change user to root to actually install, if you're
comfortable with the package, its source, where it will go, etc.
9. clean up after yourself ;)
<snip>
> > 5) (Last question!) What window manager would you recomend for a beginner
> > to use? I have the windows lookalike one, fvvm 95 or something like that,
> > but I'd like to do something fun to the desktop.
Obviously, a question of personal preference, but I use WindowMaker -
it's very slick and can be completely configured via its GUI config
program(s).
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Stowe)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.pascal.borland,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter
does.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:54:23 GMT
Reply-To: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:44:45 GMT, QualifiedConsultant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is the first in a series of documents I will be writing to educate the
>computer consulting industry as a whole.
>
I sincerely hope not ....
<followups set>
/J\
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From: jas shultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotmetal Pro
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:52:27 -0700
The reason I was wondering is, in chapter 50:"Configuring a WWW site" of
Redhat Unleashed, it has this:
If you wish to use a plain editor, you should carefully check your document
for the valid use of tags. One of the easiest methods of checking a document
is to import it into an HTML editor that has strong HTML tag checking.
Another easy method is to simply call up the document on your Web browser
and carefully study its appearance.
You can obtain a dedicated HTML authoring package from some sites, although
they are not as common for Linux as for DOS
and Windows. If you are running both operating systems, you can always
develop your HTML documents in Windows, and then
import them to Linux. There are several popular HTML tools for Windows, such
as HTML Assistant, HTMLed, and HoTMetaL.
A few of the WYSIWYG editors are also available for X, and hence run under
Linux, such as HoTMetaL. Some HTML
authoring tools are fully WYSIWYG, while others are character-based. Most
offer strong verification systems for generated HTML code.
Which made me curious. Am I misunderstanding this. Perhaps they're referring
to an older ver?
Jas
http://www.openskyco.com
Michael Proto wrote:
> jas shultz wrote:
> >
> > I read in Redhat Unleashed that there's a ver. of Hotmetal Pro for
> > Linux, or atleast the X Windows system. Does anyone know anything about
> > this? I checked the Hotmetal information at http://www.sq.com and was
> > unable to find any mention of Linux of X Windows. Any assistance would
> > be appreciated.
> >
> > Jas
> >
>
> I don't think there is a Linux version, but you might want to take a
> look at WINE (a Windows emulator).
>
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From: Christoph Haenle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: gcc: cannot specify -o with -c and multiple compilations
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 99 14:36:15
-c means "compile only, do not link"
-o specifies the executable's name.
Therefore, using both options simultaneously doesn't make sense.
Try this:
gcc -O -O4 -Wall -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/include -Dl
inux
LinuxMachineDefines -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURC
E=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DOSMAJO
RVERSION=2 -DOSMINORVERSION=0 -o XConsole.o XConsole.c
-Chris.
A.G. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi all:
: What do I do about this compilation error? I'm trying to compile proccps
: with gcc 2.8.1. and glibc2.07.pre6.
: gcc -O -O4 -Wall -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/include -Dl
: inux
: LinuxMachineDefines -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURC
: E=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DOSMAJO
: RVERSION=2 -DOSMINORVERSION=0 -c XConsole.c -o XConsole.o
: gcc: cannot specify -o with -c and multiple compilations
: make[1]: *** [XConsole.o] Error 1
: Thanx for any input!
: Arcady
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: make bzImage?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:27:42 GMT
Create a zImage and a bzImage kernel using the same configuration and source.
As you can see, the bzImage is slightly larger. What does bzImage offer?
cd /usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot
ls -l bzImage /boot/zImage-2036
-rw------- 1 root root 336166 Mar 9 12:59 /boot/zImage-2036
-rw------- 1 root root 336177 Mar 12 07:58 bzImage
Thanks.
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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making a bootdisk for rescue purposes
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:46:50 +0000
I have looked at this.
What�s being done is almost the same thing I�m doing. The difference is
that my compressed image is on an extra floppy (too big) and that I use
lilo on the boot floppy. The rest is the same. Still, it doesn�t work here.
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From: Flagstaff Candace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.pascal.borland,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter
does.
Date: 12 Mar 1999 15:05:50 GMT
[snip]
Sounds like someone didn't get the job.
Followups set.
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Date: 12 Mar 99 17:21:33 +0100
From: "Georges Heinesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Quoting John Thompson (11-Mar-99 20:22:44):
>> > Your name "foobar" or whatever is just for show unless
>> > it is registered... and you had better check and make sure
>> > no one else has registered that name so that if by some
>> > quirk you mess up good you don't hose the owner of the
>> > name!
>
>> Hmmm ... correct.
> But there's nothing stopping you from using whatever names
> you please on your own little network.
Yep, but I wanted to access the connected computer (hooked up via
dial-in with a dynamic IP address to the Internet) always with the
same hostname (e.g. 'foobar.lux.lu.ibm.net'). But this is not possible
the way I imagined it at the beginning!
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From: Sean McEwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: VNC xstartup (grey screen) - $DISPLAY problems?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:10:52 -0600
I did manage to get this working. This is what I did:
1. Copied vnc programs into /usr/bin (I think it was that directory. Anyways,
one that is in your path)
2. Telnetted into the Linux box from Win95
3. Ran 'vncserver'
4. The first time you run it, it asks for a password
5. Then it gives a name and session # to connect to (ex: linux.domain.com:1)
6. Then, I ran vncviewer from Win95, and instead of typing the word address, I
typed the numberic IP address : (ex:192.168.1.3:1)
7. It gave me an xterm. Doing a 'ps aux' showed a 'xdm' running.
This worked for me. I didn't start any X programs on the Linux box. I hope this
helps.
Sean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Here's what I'm trying to achieve: vncserver on a Linux box, vncclient on
> a
> windows box. What I get is merley a "grey screen and cross cursor"
> seen from
> the clinet end - i.e: no applications running. This is dispite
> the fact that
> my xstartup file contains the line:
>
> afterstep &
>
> Now, here are some
> observations. The line (I assume) is identical to:
>
> afterstep -d $DISPLAY &
>
> which (I assume) is identical (for me) to (e.g. in one particualr instance):
>
> afterstep -d PC007248Linux:2
>
> None of the above seem to work.
> I have put
> a line in the xstartup file, to the effect:
>
> echo $DISPLAY > ~/diag.log
>
> and it confirms that $DISPLAY is PC007248Linux:2
> (or PC007248Linux:n more
> generally).
>
> Now, after having run vncserver, it responds with something
> like:
>
> New 'X' Desktop is PC007248Linux:2
>
> (or New 'X' Desktop is
> PC007248Linux:3 or whatever)
> So I try typing at the shell prompt, the
> following:
>
> % afterstep -d PC007248Linux:2
>
> But this does *NOT* work,
> returning the following:
>
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno
> = 101
> AfterStep: can't open display PC007248Linux:3
>
> HOWEVER, it *is*
> successful to do:
>
> % afterstep -d :2
>
> which works, opening an aftertep
> session on the vnc client.
>
> HOWEVER, I want the whole thing to be automatic,
> so that
> in the xstartup file can refererence $DISPLAY, by default having...
>
> afterstep &
>
> will "select" the vnc display appropriately, whatever # that
> might be.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks in advance to anyone out there who knows
> what
> is happening here, and is willing to offer their advice..
>
> Steve.
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: V.90 ISA Modems!?!?!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Mar 1999 11:19:24 -0600
I am using an AOpen FM56-ITU (isa) modem with RedHat5.2. This was the
easiest thing to setup. All I had to do was set the jumper to com2
and tell Linux where it was. Before that I had a Gateway Telepath II
28.8 which also worked great and was just as easy to install.
Btw...I am using gnus to read my news these days. It seems to be
just as good as Agent is in Windows and will be better once I get
it customized.
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:20:45 +0000
From: Eric Brager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem upgrading util-linux
Thanks much for the info...
I actually had to do a chattr -a in addition to the -i.
Thanks again.
-E
NF Stevens wrote:
> Eric Brager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >I'm not sure my other posts have made it downstream to you yet... but in
> >general I can't chmod, chown, mv /bin/login. I'm guessing that if I'm logged
> >in as root trying that from the shell, then a new version of rpm might not
> >help.
>
> Someone has set the i attribute. Use lsattr to view the file attributes
> and chattr to change them. You'll probably want "chattr -i /bin/login"
> (as root).
>
> Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Date: 12 Mar 1999 17:32:36 GMT
On 12 Mar 99 17:17:08 +0100,
Georges Heinesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting David Kirkpatrick (11-Mar-99 15:41:34):
>
> > I guess I'm still confused. It seems to me that he would have to
> > register all possible dynamically allocated IP's - but that would be
> > fuzzy as what HE was allocated one time might be allocated to someone
> > else later. ?? The nameserver would have to know what he was allocated
> > currently.
>
> Correct. So the nameserver needs to talk to my computer to know what
> my computer is called. And this was the initial question I had.
Right, and you can't do that with IBM's name server. But there are
other name servers that are designed to do just that.
> But as far as I learned till now, this is not possible. I cannot
> communicate to the DNS server to tell him that today, my computer
> (let's call him 'foobar') has IP 1.1.1.1 and that tomorrow 'foobar' is
> hooked up under IP 1.1.1.2.
Not IBM's, no. But others do.
> This doesn't work apparently.
Yes it does -- just not in IBM's namespace.
> I guess I have to take the work-around solution with the web page.
Or, again, look at one of the other namespaces than IBM's. See
http://www.dyndns.com/, for example, which will let you be
foobar.dyndns.com whenever you connect. They charge $25/year for that.
DDNS.ORG offers a similar service for free.
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From: "Denton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipfwadm?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:21:10 -1000
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
arutha wrote in message <7c9htn$rt6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a linux system acting as a firewall/masq. I do not have valid IPs
on
>my internal network hence masq. What I want to do is allow a connection on
>a specific port to be routed to an internal computer from the internet. i
>don't know if I need additional software or if ipfwadm can do this. I am
>using redhat 5.2 kernel 2.0.36-0.7. Example: have smtp routed from the
>internet to linux box w/ valid IP to system without valid IP 192.168.x.x.
>smtp port only.
>Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
>
'man ipfw' - IP Forwarding. Should be 'ipfw af accept tcp <path>'. I'm not
sure if this would work, but give it a try. Don't forget to add the port to
the path. Another option is to set up a mail server on your linux box.
Search www.dejanews.com for the answer (to both ideas).
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:28:03 GMT
BUT, how much would most people be willing to spend on a filter to do this
job?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > NO, you export the file in ascii text format and usr nroff/troff to message
> > into Man pages. We used to do this back at AT&T. Doubt anyone would make
> > much money off of this (since it seems nobody reads MAN pages anymore)!
>
> Ahem. Beg to differ. I read MAN pages all the time. I couldn't do my
> work without them.
> >
> > In article <01be6b39$242895a0$93ed4e0c@nilrem>,
> > "Norm Dresner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Does nroff take a Word(Im)Perfect or WordForWindows file? I didn't think
so
> > > and that's why I wrote what I did!
> > > Norm
> > >
>
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From: "Charles P. Koerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dont understand Configuration message
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:07:37 GMT
I'm a newbie trying to run RH 5.2.
Besides connection problems with my ISP, there is one message that I
can't figure out.
In "glint" the "Configuration" window states,
"You have to close all of your available windows and reopen one before
changing your package directory will have any affect."
In the "Package path" box "/mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS:
I understand that I have to close all open windows (?) but the path
statement mystifies me.
Just what exactly does it mean? Do I enter the above path name at the #
prompt, or what?
Please could someone explain in detailed plain english.
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From: "Penna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD autorun
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:57:29 -0000
We are making a CD ROM for use with linux machines, with some HTML pages on.
Is there any way to 'autorun' the CD when it is inserted?
Thanks.
Steve Penna
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