Linux-Misc Digest #427, Volume #21               Mon, 16 Aug 99 20:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Help Koffice needs libkdeutil.so.2 etc. - where do I find it ("Bernd Becker")
  Re: Update a file, Ld.so (DHobbs)
  Re: Library paths (NF Stevens)
  Kernel compiling (Frederik Likaj)
  Re: What I think of linux. ("Jeff Mullen")
  Re: [Q]: Modem disconnected right after it is connected (Charles M)
  Re: CD-R backup (Douglas Bollinger)
  alsa help (Matt Garman)
  Monitor W/ X ("Steven Nelson")
  USITS '99--Symposium on Internet Technologies, Pre-Reg Deadline: September 17 (Moun 
Chau)
  Re: help:modify kernel: console on serial port.(banging head against wall) (Dexter 
Edwards)
  getting sblive to work in kernel 2.2.7? (Gaiko Kyofusho)
  Re: Lilo & EZ-Drive (Richard L. Gabriel)
  vi and X11-- no permission (W.G. Unruh)

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From: "Bernd Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help Koffice needs libkdeutil.so.2 etc. - where do I find it
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:20:05 +0200

Hi,
I think, I could do with some help over here.

I downloaded KDE 1.1.1 (all rpm's of the basic system including klibs) plus
OT 1.44 from www.suse.de/downloads/LinuKS/ and installed it on my SUSE 6.1
system. I also downloaded koffice (990203-22) from the same site. But when I
try to install it, I get a message that the following files are required:
libkdeutil.so.2
libkhtml.so.2
libkio.so.2
libkom.so.1
libkparts.so.1
libkpartssui.so.1
libpykde.so.1
libpymico.so.0

I cannot find these files on my system and also don't know where to get them
from or in which packet they could be found.

I also downloaded mico.rpm from the same site, but the files are not in
there either.
Corba is also looking for the first three files on the list.

Please HELP

Best Regards,
Bernd Becker




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From: DHobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Update a file, Ld.so
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:21:24 +0000

"Robert J. Bencale" wrote:
> 
> ok.  I am really new to Linux.  I just installed Macmillan Mandrake Linux
> 6.0.  I have a Riva TNT2 Ultra video card.  When I get into X, the screen
> is HUGE and I can't see whats on the bottom of windows when I open them.
> When I ran the xconfigurator, TNT2 wasn't there.  Someone told me to
> upgrade to the ne xfree86.  So I had no idea how to get those files from
> the internet, so I burned them to a cd first.  Ok, when I run the
> preinst.sh for xfree86, it says I need a newer version of ld.so.  So I go
> on IRC and ask how to do this, I got no response for four days.  So I
> download ld.so and put it on a cd.  I just copied it from the cd to the
> usr/bin or usr/lib directory (cant remeber which).  Then it asks me if I
> want to overwrite it, so I say yes.  I thought "hey that was easy".  But
> whe I rerun preinst.sh it still says I have the older version.  Now I'm
> stuck.  I have had Linux for 5 days and I haven't even seen what X looks
> like in a normal resolution.  Can someone help me??  Sorry this was so
> long.

man ldconfig

Dan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Library paths
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:22:35 GMT

Errin Watusikac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>"Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH should work.  You can also edit /etc/ld.so.conf
>
>I think you also have to get the superuser to run ldconfig; see the man
>page.
>
>There's also a LD_RUN_PATH; I've not yet understood the difference.

The linker looks at LD_RUN_PATH when linking an executable against
shared libraries. It puts this value into the resulting executable
so that the executable will always look in these directories when
it is run.

Norman

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From: Frederik Likaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Kernel compiling
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:31:05 GMT

I have just figured out ( i believed) how to get my RealTek8019 working.I
went throw /usr/src/linux 1-make dep,make clean,make bzImage,make modules
and make modules_install.Before that i had my ppp running and i could
connect to internet on my RedHat 6.0.After i run make bzImage I just copy
it to my floppy disc wich i use to boot into linux.It seems that eth0 work
and i can ping around but i have lost my ppp conection.When i try to
connect the modem don't react and it hangs on the yellow light.I believe
that i have not done 100% right with the kernel compiling.What should i do?
I use a floppy disc to boot linux.
2-Another problem is that i have another P.C. running linux RedHat 6.0 with
the same netcard RealTek8019 but when i tried to compile the kernel i got
the message
make[1]:gcc:command not found
make[1]:***[tkparse]Error 127
make!***[xconfig]Error 2
is any rpm i am missing there?
Any help is welkomed. 

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From: "Jeff Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:00:54 -0400

Bio:

Age:  35

First Computer Used:  Apple ][ (programming course in high school)

First Computer Onwed:  Commodore 64

First PC/Clone used:  Roommate's Homebrew PC Clone in college

First PC/Clone Owned:  Homebrew '386 Box that I "built" myself (wouldn't
give up the C64 'till something more powerful came along)

First Experience with Un*x:  College (BSD on a PDP 11)

Started Using Linux:  Last year.  Lost use of that box, so I bought parts
over newsgroups and auctions and put together another one.  It's waiting for
a friend to show up with the long-promised Mandrake CD even as I write.

Current System:  nothing special.  P-133 running '95 (what they make me use
at work).  New system is a P-230.  Planning on networking 'em.  Have
everything but the Mandrake CD.

Work:  Computer Programmer--surprize, surprize.

Other claims to fame:  personal friend of the guy who claims his linux box
holds a chat room called ide.cabi.net.  Claims he named it because one of
his pet projects is to see how many IDE drives he can hang on a PC Clone
running linux.  Goes by the moniker of OldFart.

Comments:  I've programmed 'em both.  UN*X all the way, folks.  If you use
that other excuse for an OS, all you're going to end up doing is PAYING THE
BILL.  :)

Don Werve III wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'll take the average age down a notch. :)  I'm 18.
>
>I started using Linux about a year or so ago.  I had heard about it six
months
>earlier, from an article (essay?) spouting the technical praises of Linux
vs.
>WindowsNT.  Since I enjoy reading and writing, this extremely well-written
>piece got me hooked. :)
>
>Six months later, I installed Linux on an extra drive that I bought for the
>purpose.  I would log in, play (and break a _lot_ of stuff), and then log
out
>and go back to Windows.  My amount of play-time slowly grew, especially
after I
>successfully patched the 3.3.1 XFree86 server to take my Matrox G100 video
>card.  Last time I booted Windows on my machine was...er...three or four
months
>ago, I think.  Can't quite remember. <G>
>
>In fact, I just pulled out my old 1.2G Windows95 drive, and now my system
>consists of a single 4.3G HD...I'm going to throw an extra drive in just
for
>MP3s, though, or just get a CDRW.
>
>My background is pretty limited.  Started programming on a Commodore Vic20
when
>I was about six, wrote some simple games and such.  Couldn't do much due to
>lack of documentation, as the only BASIC book I had was for the
TRS-80...good
>thing that the language was somewhat standard.  I am still miffed about
"HOME"
>on Apple ][ = "CLS" on PC. :)
>
>I then graduated to an XT-type PC...AT&T PC6300.  One of the first XTs in
the
>consumer market to use the 8086 (as opposed to an 8088)...too bad it was in
>monochrome. :(  This was only my father's box, though.
>
>_My_ first machine was an Epson 8088, with 640K of RAM and a whopping 40M
hard
>drive (split into two partitions, even).  It even had an EGA display and a
>color monitor.  I used QuickBASIC 4.0 extensively on that machine, and even
>used a little MS VisualBASIC for DOS (1.0).  I think I still have my VB 1.0
>disks, even...wonder if those are antiques yet?  Wrote an inventory /
quotation
>program for a small PC business that worked like a champ. :)  Too bad the
>business didn't (people weren't much into custom PCs at the time).
>
>I then graduated to a 286 (that I still have!), which was a major jump.
VGA
>display, 80M HD, 1.44M floppy...wow!  Running Windows 3.1, but I spent most
of
>my time in DOS.  I've always been a command-line type.
>
>Next up was a Packard Bell 486sx/20, and I remember my excitement when my
>father came into my room and said "486".  This is back in the days when
Windows
>3.0 was in use, and seing a system as fast as this was amazing.  That
computer
>served me faithfully until my Junior year of high school, using Windows
>3.11+WIN32s, MS Office 2.1 (not a bad version, really), Netscape 2.02.
Used
>CorelDRAW! 2.0 and PaintShop Pro 2.0 quite a bit as well, and managed
plenty of
>school projects.  630M HD space total (2) drives, and 6M of RAM.
>
>Next jump was to a 486DX2/50, 16M RAM, Windows95...and that's what
convinced me
>to use Linux. <G>  This system was such a dog!  I'm reeeeal good at
tweaking
>them, though, and managed to get Photoshop 3.0.5 running with acceptable
>performance.
>
>My current system is an AMD K6-2/333MHz, 128M RAM, and RedHat Linux 5.1
(2.0.37
>kernel).  I love this machine!  It's funny to hear about people's machines
>crashing, because it seems so far in the distant past.  Only problem I have
is
>that WM 0.53 (yes, I need to get 0.60) keeps segfaulting, and it takes me
three
>seconds to restart it (pops up this little box, click "ok", and it restarts
>WMaker without closing any apps).  This is probably going to be my
workstation
>for quite awhile, as I haven't seen any real needs for massive upgrades.
>
>Not to mention that the money I saved on software goes into my "Don needs a
19"
>monitor fund". <G>  I'm into C/C++ right now, and gcc/g++ rocks!  I
somewhat
>miss the IDE, but I've found KWrite to work beautifully, and Makefiles
aren't
>that bad.  Not to mention, I saved a few hundred dollars off the price of
VC++,
>and since I don't make any money off my programming, that's a big
difference.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I take up the average age a notch, I'm 62
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Robert Crawford wrote:
>> >
>> > 33, first used apple II, first owned Tandy Color Computer (I still have
>> > it somewhere), next was a comodore 64, then a line of pc clones,
started
>> > linux about 2 years ago (and I am not a Computer Sci geek, I am a
>> > Liberal Arts/Socal Studies kind of person).
>> >
>> > > > > > You're right, somewhat.  I would be curious as to the average
age of Linux
>> > > > > > users.  I'm 34.  First computer I ever had my hands on was a
Commodore PET.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Robert Crawford
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > www.snowcrest.net/robertc
>> > Linux and vi, the choice powertools of the next century.
>>
>> --
>> John                    Today is only the tomorrow
>>                         you worried about yesterday.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>--
>===========================================================
>Don E. Werve III -- [Page currently down / changing ISPs]
>E-Mail: hari AT iveleague DOT org
>
>"Microsoft Windows98 is a 32-bit hack of a 16-bit graphical
>shell for an 8-bit operating system originally designed for
>a 4-bit microprocessor by a two-bit company that can't
>stand one bit of competition."
>                                                - Anonymous



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Subject: Re: [Q]: Modem disconnected right after it is connected
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:39:41 -0500

In article <7pa2cp$h8l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi,
> I could not seem to get an answer on this problem, so I am posting it again
> and hope that someone out there can give me some pointers.
> 
> I have a 5.1 linux box connected to a Motorola Modemsurf External 56K modem.
> It worked fine until one day it started to disconnect immediately after I
> dialed up and connected. (5-10 seconds).  It autodialed again, and shut down
> again......
> 
> I went ahead and bought a ModemBlaster 56K (v90) external to hook up with
> this linux box, but it still did not work.  I then upgrade the linux box to
> Redhat 6.0, but still have the same problem.
> 
> If I use these 2 modems on Win98 and WinNT, they works prefectly fine, then.
> 
> Clues? Anyone? please...
> 
> --
> ==============
> Alan M. Shih
> 
> 
> 
My local mindspring hub once seemed to switch connection types so that 
instead of 'login:' they wanted to see 'username:' (or vice-versa). Gave 
me the same problem you are describing, except I was originally able to 
connect, then after they changed, I had to modifiy the string. Typically 
you have an expect/send pair. I suspect your expect string is wrong for 
your situation. With this problem your modem will connect OK, but upon 
the authenication stage, your ISP will disconnect you (a few seconds 
after all the lights on the modem go on). Go to linuxconf, ppp setup and 
check how you are set up (or go to /etc/ppp and check manually). Hope 
this helps.

CMM

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Bollinger)
Subject: Re: CD-R backup
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:54:06 -0400

Mircea at [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...

> What would you recommend as backup software using CD-Rs? It would have
> to be able to span multiple volumes (I have a "mere" 18G to backup).
> TIA,

Look at this web page:

http://w3.one.net/~bilshell/backburner/backburner.html

It's a perl script that uses dd, tar and cdrecord to back-up a file 
system.  I'm not sure, but you MAY be able to span CD-R's with this 
approach.  While I've d/l the tar ball, I just haven't gotten around 
to inspecting the scripts.

Good luck.

-- 
Douglas Bollinger
Mt. Holly Springs, PA   17065

My other computer runs Linux.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Subject: alsa help
Date: 16 Aug 1999 22:53:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have an Soundblaster AWE 32 Plug'n'Play card.  I had it working with 
the ALSA drivers version 0.3.0-pre4 and using isapnptools (I did not
compile isapnp support into my ALSA drivers).

So, I thought I'd try and upgrade the ALSA drivers to 0.3.2, and have
ALSA do the plug'n'play stuff, rather than isapnptools (since the AWE
32 is  my only p'n'p card).

So, if I compile and install, run the snddevices script, everything
seems to go okay, until I try loading the modules with the following
commands:

        /sbin/modprobe snd-sbawe
        /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm1-oss

Upon doing this, I get the following error:

/lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/snd-sbawe.o: init_module: Device or resource
busy
snd: Device or resource busy

I didn't do anything with /etc/conf.modules or configure any pnp
parameters otherwise, and I think that is my problem.  I don't know
where or how to do this.

Here's the other problem:

I decided to try ALSA v0.3.2 compiled without isapnp built-in, and
using the old reliable isapnptools.  I compile, make install,
snddevices, then run the two commands mentioned above, and everything
seems okay.

But, wmmixer (a Window Maker dock mixer application) doesn't work; it
gives the following error:

wmmixer : Unable to open mixer device '/dev/mixer'.
wmmixer : Sorry, no supported channels found.

And if I try to use "amixer" from the alsa-utils package, I get the
following output when I run it with no arguments:

crh3019:~% amixer 
amixer: Specify command...

And the amixer man page says that it's supposed to list available
channels when it is run with no arguments.  Obviously nothing is
coming up.

Anyone know what to do with either of these problems?

Thanks!
Matt

-- 
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"And through the window in the wall
 Come streaming in on sunlight wings
 A million bright ambassadors of morning." 
        --Pink Floyd, "Echoes"




-- 
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"And through the window in the wall
 Come streaming in on sunlight wings
 A million bright ambassadors of morning." 
        --Pink Floyd, "Echoes"

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From: "Steven Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitor W/ X
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:06:18 -0500

I have a compaq 1725 monitor, and although the specs are there in custom, it
wont setup my monitor, so I can't run X. Please assist.

--Whit




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From: Dexter Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: help:modify kernel: console on serial port.(banging head against wall)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:17:33 -0400

Abe Lin wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been banging my head against the wall for the past month for
> this:
>
> To make a boot/root disk set for our RAID server, and which will
> output console to serial port.
>
> The compiled kernel's around 1130K at the least for our 2.2.5 kernel,
> and lilo21 wasn't able to install the kernel.(vmlinuz too big)
>
> Is there some way to modify the kernl to do this/or some way to make
> the lilo work?
>
> Thanks,
> shuo

  Have you tried make bzImage, (compressed kernel?) or alternatively,
load some drivers as modules that will minimize the size of the kernel.

D.



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From: Gaiko Kyofusho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: getting sblive to work in kernel 2.2.7?
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:43:38 GMT

Hi, i have a sound blaster live and am running suse 6.1 which comes with
 2.2.7 which has been very good to me up until now! (well the problem is
not really the kernels fault).  I am trying to get hte sound blaster
live working on my computer and having little sucess.  I got the module
from the soundblaster developers site and tried using thier script of
course getting the message that my kernel is too "new" (need 2.0.36 <i
think> or 2.2.5-10).  I have only a vauge understnading of how to use
modules (i usually just have a big kernel on my slackware box but suse
spoon feeds me some "module support") so a newbiean explaination/howto
would be greatly appricated!

thank you,

                                       -Gaiko

Gaikokujin Kyofusho


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From: **gabriel**@twave.net (Richard L. Gabriel)
Subject: Re: Lilo & EZ-Drive
Reply-To: **gabriel**@twave.net
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:14:13 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer) wrote:

>In article <7nnelq$nef$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Krishnan Sridhar wrote:
>>: From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
>>: Message-ID: <Jeaj3.14422$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>: Hi,
>>:     I had a Pentium Pro 150 with 2 hard drives and a CD-ROM. I recently
>>: installed a 13GB western digital HDD (ATA-66). I had to update my bios to be
>>: able to see it. Even though the bios now sees the full capacity of the
>>: drive, I had to install EZ-Drive to be able to use it.
>>

Why fool around with EZ-Drive at all....it certainly comes in a poor
second to a net hardware solution such as the Promise EIDEMAX II disk
controller (at apx $25US).  My ancient 486DX33 has been running
several years with it and I currently have a 10.1GB IBM HD and a 2.1GB
WD HD.  I am LILO dual booting either DOS/WIN3.1 or LINUX (RedHat
5.2).  Everything is working just great.  

Have Fun,  Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W.G. Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: vi and X11-- no permission
Date: 15 Aug 99 19:00:38 GMT

I have a weird error message from vi. If I log on as another user (su) every
time I run vi I get
wormhole[unruh]>vi .bashrc
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key


Now the fact taht the permission is wrong is not surprising, but why in the world 
is vi requesting X service anyway? Note tht this error message makes no difference 
as vi works perfectly anyway. Anyone know why vi calls X?

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