Linux-Misc Digest #470, Volume #19 Mon, 15 Mar 99 20:13:09 EST
Contents:
Linux unable to use >16M Memory (Richard Sands)
Large (1MB) writes (Michael Nolan)
Re: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter does.
("Rufus V. Smith")
Re: Celeron 300 MHz or PII 266 MHz (Jeff Shern)
3D X11 GUI Interface?!! Was: 3D Visualization File Manager for X11 (Thomas Weeks)
Re: fvwm95? (Stefan Bokor)
Re: Bash and setuid (Jeffrey Straszheim)
POP3 on a vanilla RH52 box ("Kerry J. Cox")
gpm and Intellimouse (Jozef Dodziuk)
Re: KDE, Debian, and religion (**Nick Brown)
Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive (steve)
Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding ("MokeKahuna")
Re: problems with mouse ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion (Christopher Browne)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Christopher Browne)
Sharing swap partition? (Bjorn T Johansen)
IPX and remote files... (Walter Strong)
Re: Is trn the best (Alan Curry)
Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive ("Greg Waugh")
Re: Telnet with RH 5.2 and Win98 (Ghost)
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From: Richard Sands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux unable to use >16M Memory
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:05:21 GMT
With RedHat 5.2 using kenels at 2.0.36 & 2.2.3 I can't get the kernel to
recognise more than 13MB of the 96MB available. If I use no 'mem=' boot
parameter then /proc/meminfo shows:
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 13852672 13471744 380928 8343552 180224 4112384
Swap: 107311104 40271872 67039232
MemTotal: 13528 kB
MemFree: 372 kB
MemShared: 8148 kB
Buffers: 176 kB
Cached: 4016 kB
SwapTotal: 104796 kB
SwapFree: 65468 kB
The system contains 96MB RAM which passes all BIOS checks, and is able to be
recognised and used by other OSes on the same system (Win95/NT/Solaris/OS2).
If I try using the 'mem=' boot parameter with settings of 32,64,90,94,95,96M
the system will boot until it tries to start KDE, when it will either crash
out of X, or hang completely, presumably because X is causing it to access
enough memory to trigger the problem.
The system works OK with no 'mem=' boot parameter, but is understandably
slow, with a lot of paging.
If I look in /var/log/messages I can see kernel errors presumably associated
with the problem, such as:
Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: general protection: 0000 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras
kernel: CPU: 0 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: EIP:
0010:[wake_up_interruptible+53/232] Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: EFLAGS:
00010296 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: eax: 0009b020 ebx: ffffffff ecx:
0009b020 edx: ffffffff Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: esi: 000000b4 edi:
0009b01c ebp: 001f2fb0 esp: 001f2fa4 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: ds: 0018
es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 0018 ss: 0018 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: Process
swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage=001f10a0) Mar 15 11:46:16 ras
kernel: Stack: 000000b6 000000b4 00000000 00000010 001a22f3 0009b020 00ed6d98
0000000c Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: 00000038 0010ce51 0000000c 00000000
001f2ff4 001f2ff4 001f307c 00000000 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: 00009000
0010c8e7 0000000c 001f2ff4 000029a5 00000014 001f3854 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras
kernel: Call Trace: [aux_interrupt+119/128] [do_IRQ+101/136]
[IRQ12_interrupt+95/132] Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: Code: 8b 02 83 f8 01 75
67 9c 5e fa c7 02 00 00 00 00 83 7a 4c 00 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: Aiee,
killing interrupt handler Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel: kfree of non-kmalloced
memory: 001f30e8, next= 001f307c, order=36864 Mar 15 11:46:16 ras kernel:
kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 001f30d8, next= 001f307c, order=36864 Mar 15
11:46:16 ras kernel: kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 001f35ec, next= 001f307c,
order=3686
If anyone can help me resolve this it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Richard Sands
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Nolan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Large (1MB) writes
Date: 15 Mar 1999 17:07:14 GMT
Are there any drivers to do large (1MB) tape read and write? The limit
in 2.0.xx was ~64k, but if we can't do at least 1MB, we're stuck with
Solaris.
Thanks,
-Mike Nolan
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From: "Rufus V. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.pascal.borland,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter
does.
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:38:49 -0500
>>
>>I will except opinions from all QUALIFIED COMPUTER CONSULTANTS.
>Everyone else
>>will be ignored.
>>
A consultant is a person who:
a) calls himself,
or
b) is called by someone else,
a consultant.
There really are no other "qualifications".
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From: Jeff Shern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron 300 MHz or PII 266 MHz
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:18:51 -0700
Walter Strong wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : What are your opinions of the Celeron 300 MHz vs a
> : Mobile PII 266 MHz processor for running Linux on
> : a notebook? The Celeron can be overclocked to 450 MHz,
> : can the PII also be overclocked? Any comments?
>
> : Greg
>
> I've hear that the PII's ending in an odd number (i.e., 266) are
> set to a lower bus speed. Can anybody confirm this? Or disconfirm
> it as the case may be.
Yes, I have heard this too, and can't confirm it. Although what you could do (if
you're daring) is over clock the bus. So set your bus to 133 and your multiplier
to 2x and then try to keep 'er cool :-)
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Weeks)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.os.linux
Subject: 3D X11 GUI Interface?!! Was: 3D Visualization File Manager for X11
Date: 15 Mar 1999 23:02:00 GMT
I can't believe that there's no hits on this question!
SGI has a really kick a*s 3D file manager GUI front end and I can't find squat
on the subject for Linux.. Hell.. I would have expected Linux to have it first!
email me any info!: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom D Tek
In article <7c3um8$m8l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Hey all...
>
>Just been looking into fsn type file management for UN*X OS' other than SGI.
>You know.. like the little girl was playing with in Jurassic Park...
>
> see: http://www.sgi.com/fun/images/fsn.map2.jpg
>
>Anyone tweaked/used/re-compiled/played with this on Linux yet?
>
>PLease send any related info to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Tom D Tek
>
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From: Stefan Bokor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fvwm95?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 02:31:42 GMT
jc wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:49:10 +0100, Taco Ekkel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is there any X window manager out there that really acts exactly like a
> >win95
> Even if there's, not many people will like it. fvwm95 is very popular.
>
> >GUI? Not that I love Windows (I hate it actually) but I must admit to
> >myself that the user interface of win95/98 is one of the better parts
> >and fvwm95 ain't really all that =]
> If everyone sends this kind of message to fvwm95 developers, they'd
> probably give up and then what. We lose a good window manager forever.
I think we did already. The fvwm95 was last time updated
02/1998. I love fvm95 to, but I started to search for a win95
theme for the new fvwm2. (Any pointers?)
Maybe we should send a bear to Hector Pereza?
-stefan.
> Mind you, I love fvwm95 more than any Windows. It makes me RTFM and
> learn, unlike Win that makes you call TF customer avoidance.
>
> Oh yea, how much did you pay for Win95/8 and fvwm95? Got it? Close
> discussion.
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From: Jeffrey Straszheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash and setuid
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 21:43:46 -0500
Len Cuff wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to get this to work ? Even with the setuid bit on,
> it still won't run as root. I know I had the same problem with
> Solaris2.5.1 but there was a workaround with that, add -p (or -B) after
> the #!/bin/sh and it worked fine but bash won't.
> Cheers,
> Len
Linux is not going to let you setuid a script file;
evidently that is too much of a security loophole.
If you must run the script as setuid, write a simple
C program that is setuid and have it call some
flavor of exec(3) on the script.
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: POP3 on a vanilla RH52 box
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:07:02 +0000
Just a quick question. What's the best way for enabling POP3 on a
vanilla install of RedHat5.2 ? I want to route mail through my system
instead of the other mail systems. What files do I need to change
and/or edit? Thanks.
KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jozef Dodziuk)
Subject: gpm and Intellimouse
Date: 15 Mar 1999 19:59:17 GMT
I have a slight problem with Microsoft Intellimouse and gpm.
Things work fine on the console after boot-up and in X-Window environment.
However once X-Window is running then gpm does not work on other virtual
consoles. The problem persist on the original console after X-Window is
killed.
Any hints on how this can be fixed will be greatly appreciated.
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Ph.D. Program in Mathematics
Graduate School and University Center of CUNY
33 West 42nd Street
New York, NY 10036
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Fax: (212)-642-2585
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:26:28 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Hasler wrote:
>
> BTW, you might try taking a less hostile tone when asking for help.
Point taken, but I was in "geeez-why-doesn't-this-work-I'm-in-a-hurry"
mode. Which is no excuse. I find a new OS very frustrating because
I've been programming computers since 1975 and I can find 95% of what I
need to know intuitively - it's just the magic other 5% that gets me
stuck !
I've since found why apt-get wasn't working (which was why I was on the
dpkg thing anyway) - namely, I had a typo in one of the .deb filenames.
This was introduced when saving from Netscape - which tries to change
all the periods but the last, into underscores. While saving libstdc++,
I'd failed to change one of those underscores back. Dselect, it
appears, can handle that kind of error in a filename, but apt-get
can't. (Dpkg has no trouble because I guess like 99% of people, I'm
just typing wildcards.)
Another reason why it might never have come to a problem: usually I do
use dpkg -i *. But I was stepping through packages in another directory
and didn't get round to doing the cd... it happens...
Meanwhile, I'm getting the unstable 1.42 (kicking myself for not
checking there first), but as an exercise, I'm going to dig out the
packaging manual and make my own qt1g-1.42 package as an exercise.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who replied, and apologies to the good Debian
people whose competence I may have seemed to call into question. I
wouldn't have even bothered trying to get this kind of help with a
Microsoft product (from MS or just in a newsgroup).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:51:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:54:07 -0500, "Greg Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Well, there are several reasons I want to move it. First of all, it works
>perfectly, second of all, the drive that it's currently on is slow and very
>old and I don't really trust it anymore. That and I don't really have room
>in the case for it with these new drives. I suppose I could do it that way,
>but like I said, it's a server so I don't really want it down that long... I
>was hoping I could prepare the second disk, reboot and have it ready to go
>in a few minutes...
>
>Wait a second... crazy idea... has anyone ever moved a Linux installation
>using Patition Magic 4.0 for Windows? I know it sounds crazy, but I've used
>it very successfully to move NT before and it claims to do Linux... that's
>just another thought too...
Anybody used DriveCopy to do this?
steve
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From: "MokeKahuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:08:39 GMT
Need some help understanding what went wrong or possibly what went wrong
with my recompilation of kernel 2.0.35.
I've read or at least think I've read (and understood) all the HOWTOs on
multiple ethernet cards, configuring, compiling, firewalling, and ip
masquerading.
Once I installed Slackware 3.6 from scratch, on a freshly formatted hard
disk partition, I proceeded to configure all my .conf and rc.<whatever>
files to establish my Linux box as a firewall between my local network and
my ISP. That all worked fine including recompiling my RoadRunner dhcp
client daemon and login daemon programs.
After confirming everything worked fine using ifconfig, netstat, and
ipfwadm, I proceeded to 'make mrproper', 'make config', 'make dep ; make
clean', and finally 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'. When I
rebooted, however, it just went into a loop starting lilo then going back to
BIOS hardware startup. At this point the only thing I could do was boot
from the distribution CD and copy my original 2.0.35 kernel back in (backup
copy always saves you in cases like this).
For the most part I left all kernel selection default except for those
mentioned in the ip masquerading HOWTO (latest is 7 Feb 99 by Ambrose Au).
Any ideas what I missed? patches? compiler version? header files? ????
Help...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: problems with mouse
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:10:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Scott Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a Fujitsu Lifebook 520d. I think that I have everything configured
> right except for the mouse. The mouse is a ps/2 alps glidepoint. When I am
> in x windows the mouse will only move in the upper right 2/3 of the screen.
> I have tried every option in the mouse configuration program (even the
> serial mouse options which do not allow it to move but the pointer still
> starts in the wrong spot) but it is the same for all of them. What can I
> do?
>
Seems you just need another X server. I had such a problem with an S3 server.
When I installed S3V my mouse began to scroll correctly. Another tip is to
look into section Pointer in XF86Config. Good luck!
Sergey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:37:08 GMT
On 15 Mar 1999 03:53:13 GMT, Stuart Eichert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>JACK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: >Let's take communism, for instance.
>: >Just because you discard the evil idea isn't enough to make you happy;
>: >but as long as you keep the idea, you're guaranteed to be unhappy.
>
>
>: hang on. communism is not evil, it was the communists that where evil. the
>: actual communist ideals a quite nice and utopian (unless of course your
>: wealthy).
>
> -Communism disregards human nature and strips away freedom. To me
>that is a little evil(not as evil as genocide, but still pretty bad).
>Actually communism hurts those who are rising in income level more than
>the born wealthy(i.e. building a business from scratch when you were dirt
>poor, hiring hundreds of people, bringing in excellent profits, sending
>your kids to college, and then having the government come in and take your
>business for the good of the people, that sucks).
Ignore ideology.
Simply consider the politics of power.
Those attempts at transitions to communistic systems have required that
some form of government body take control of "the means of production"
away from those that previously held control of such things.
If this involves taking things of not-insignificant value, then this
involves a transfer of control of sizable amounts of wealth from one
group of people to another.
Unfortunately, "absolute power corrupts absolutely," and the control of
sizable amounts of wealth represents a significant temptation.
A revolution of whatever flavor will therefore involve:
a) Those having control of wealth trying to stop their control from
being diminished, and
b) Those that would *like* control of the wealth trying to insinuate
their own involvement in the process.
Whether the revolution takes up the trappings of "communism," "fascism,"
"democracy," "libertarianism," or whatever, this means that those that
*were* wealthy will oppose the change, or will seek to make sure that
they are powerful in the new regime.
>:Remember such things as trade unions,co-ops, credit unions all spawned
>:from communism. the ideal of communism is simple social inclusion.
>
>I would argue that trade unions, at least in the US, would have
>resulted regardless of communism philosophy due to the unsafe working
>conditions. However I would say that it would seem likely that
>communism has influence on trade unions as we see how they are run by
>such corrupt leaders.
Look at things from the perspective of people wanting power, and not
necessarily caring a lot how power is achieved. Methinks that will
provide better explanation of the various regimes of the 20th century
than attempts to pigeonhole the regimes into "proper ideological
frameworks."
>: the "communists" on the other hand such as Stalin,Lenin, the eastern block
>: leaders etc where evil not for the belief in communism (if they had one?).
>: they where evil because of the manner in which they ruled.
>
>Don't forget my buddy Mao. And yes, you are correct, many of these
>horrible men simply used communism as a means to become dictators.
I think it can be argued that the idealism associated with communism is
not accomplishable (whether or not you *approve* of the ideals being a
totally different question...) as it provides inadequate ways of fitting
the problems of power into the ideals.
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Wow! Windows now can do everything using shared library DLLs, just
like Multics did back in the 1960s! Maybe someday they'll discover
separate processes and pipes, which came out in the 1970s!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:37:25 GMT
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:57:54 GMT, Pas Moi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> "CB" == Christopher Browne wrote on Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:21:20 GMT:
>CB> On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 17:51:40 GMT, Gianni Mariani
>CB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The only ideology MS has is capitalism.
>
>CB> Can you elaborate on how earnings accruing from ownership of
>CB> capital explains Microsoft's actions?
>
>since you ask:
>
>0. seems like they bought some important pieces of intellectual
>"property" early in their history. note that bill chose to stash his
>cash in production, and not on the roulette table, real estate, or in
>hedonistic dissipation. he took his money (how much from daddy?) and
>turned it into capital.
>
>1. they seem to be have extended this "ownership" of a few pieces of
>intellectual "property" into even more "property rights" and a big
>pile of money. for ms, then we have M-C-M' & C-M-C'.
>
>2. their system of production is more or less equivalent to wage
>labour.
>
>yes, maybe ms is a product of bill's psychosis, but for me, if it
>walks like a duck...
That's more what I was looking for...
Too often, people make throw-away comments about the wonders of
[capitalism | democracy | other content-free ideology] where it is
pretty evident that they are not actually talking about the effects of
the thing they are attributing success to.
When someone blames capitalism for something that's far better
attributed to "people with power playing power games," or alternatively
ascribes all that is good to capitalism, when it's not clear that they
understand what it is, I'll question it.
It's sort of like claiming that [Republican|Democratic] politics are
inherently [better|worse] than the other, when what's really *most*
clear about both of those political persuasions is that their
practitioners are really devoted to the Guiding Principle of Wanting To
Rule America.
>you could have argued that the nature of the information industry
>somehow negates the fundamentals of capitalism, but you seem more
>concerned about defending the image of capitalism. admitting that ms
>is capitalist, will make capitalism look bad, which i guess is a
>problem for you because you have an emotional comittment to
>capitalism. essentially, you're halfway to giving up on capitalism
>already. you might as well take the plunge, because it will be easier
>than arguing that every uncle scrooge and ig farben isn't "really
>capitalist."
You're attributing too much to my *own* position.
>and how did you work yourself out of the plonk zone on my score file?
There's this virus, you see, that does a buffer overrun in conjunction
with /bin/bash...
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Wow! Windows now can do everything using shared library DLLs, just
like Multics did back in the 1960s! Maybe someday they'll discover
separate processes and pipes, which came out in the 1970s!
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From: Bjorn T Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sharing swap partition?
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:50:35 +0100
Hi.
I was just wondering if there is any reason why I shouldn't share a swap
partition between to separate Linux installations (two separate Linux
distribution as well)?
What about sharing a RAID 0 partition between these two?
Regards,
BTJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: IPX and remote files...
Date: 16 Mar 1999 00:35:24 GMT
My eth0 is set up fine, I get the server. However, I can't see the
network drives and printers. At boot linux claims that
"remote file systems mounted", but where? It's a novell network, as
far as I know. I'd just ask the sysadmin, but there's strictly "no
support" for linux...
Linux seems to probe and successfully find everything at the server
end, but I don't get to see any of it. Is mounting the network drive
something like mounting a dos partition? I know that this is a pretty
loose post, but it seems like I'm forgetting something too basic even
for the FAQs.
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Subject: Re: Is trn the best
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Curry)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:00:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wlmet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know trn is not the most intuitive newsreader, but I understood it to be the
>fastest and most efficient.
>
>However, it takes forever to get the overview files. HOw can I fix this
>problem? What is the best text based newsreader if not trn?
trn is the best, but if your only access to Usenet is NNTP over a modem, you
will suffer. That's just not fast enough to really support a good newsreader
with powerful search features. Hell, a T1 isn't fast enough. To read news
correctly, you really need to be on the same LAN (>=10Mbit) as the news
server.
"trn is the most efficient" may be true, or it may not, but it is definitely
more efficient than luser newsreaders like pine or Netscrape. Because of its
powerful killfiles and threading, you spend less time manually wading through
articles that don't interest you.
But "trn is the fastest" is definitely not true. In order to be less
demanding on the user, it is _more_ demanding on your bandwidth.
When I was stuck with NNTP on a slow link, I just started trn once per boot
and left it running forever. The startup time really is the worst of it.
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From: "Greg Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:04:28 -0500
Hey fellow Linux users! I'm going to be moving my current RedHat 5.2 Linux
server to a new hard drive. Everything in the system is going to be the
same, just a new /sda drive. I'm just curious if anyone has a procedure to
do this of if it is documented anywhere. I thought I would do a cp -a * (or
a few with correct tmp mount points), then boot from a floppy with the new
HD as root and run LILO, but I'm fuzzy on how to set up the /proc and /dev
filesystem.... and if there are going to be any issues with the swap
space... Thanks everyone! Any help would be very appreciated!
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From: Ghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet with RH 5.2 and Win98
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:38:27 -0500
James Timberlake wrote:
> I have RedHat 5.2 installed with WindowMaker and Gnome. XFree86 works
> fine on it. i tried telneting to my linux box from a friends Win98
> box. i am able to telnet to it and do everthing in text-mode, but
> when i try running X Window everyhing hangs. Is there something
> special i have to do to make it work or maybe should i get a new Win98
> telnet client?
>
> thanks,
> James
You need to have an X-Server running on that Win98 machine as well or
graphical programs will not show up. A good one is XWinPro32. There's a
demo with a 2hour limit.
There are some free ones out there, MI/X comes to mind.
After you installed XWinPro32 or any other X-server, Telnet over and run
'xterm &'
.. or
'netscape &' or whatever the program happens to be.
- Lin
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