Linux-Misc Digest #485, Volume #19 Wed, 17 Mar 99 02:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: best offline newsreader? (Michael Powe)
Re: What is the best Linux to install? (Eric Melville)
Re: email client advice and question (Michael A. Powe)
Re: signal 11 during mandrake install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding ("MokeKahuna")
Re: """"""""My SoundBlast 16 pnp isn't up yet"""""""""""" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Opinions Needed for New App Planning (John McKown)
Re: WordPerfect 8 not displaying properly... (Matt Kuznicki)
partitions ("Spud")
Re: Compiling XFree 3.3.3.1 with gcc in Slackware 3.5 ("Spud")
Windowmaker Error - Help (Chris)
Novice question - need help with DB2 in Linux. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Compiling XFree 3.3.3.1 with gcc in Slackware 3.5 (ANDREW R. POST)
Re: Some questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CR/LF Question ("Stressed")
Re: Delaying at the sendmail initialization ("Tom Holmes")
Security/Password Questions ("Stressed")
Re: L I N U X + 8 0 8 8 (DaZZa)
Re: Which X11Amp is stable (Fabrice Gesnouin)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: 16 Mar 1999 15:40:11 -0800
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>>>>> "SpAmEnOt" == SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SpAmEnOt> On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, William Wueppelmann wrote:
[ ... ]
SpAmEnOt> But what I'd like is to be able to download a list of
SpAmEnOt> NEW subject headers without waiting for all that on-line
SpAmEnOt> threading which slows the process down to my modem
SpAmEnOt> connection... automaticly catch up the newsgroup
SpAmEnOt> pointers. and then run ppp-off BEFORE my PC asks me
SpAmEnOt> which threads I want to retrieve in the next run. Then
SpAmEnOt> I'd read the articals that were automaticaly downloaded
SpAmEnOt> based on the selections I made last time. Write any
SpAmEnOt> folowup or new aticals I want posted, which would be
SpAmEnOt> automaticaly posted the next time ppp-go was run (like
SpAmEnOt> sendmail does with those "Expensive" SMTP mailers...)
SpAmEnOt> I'd also want any articals I requested to be
SpAmEnOt> automaticaly downloaded at that time along with the next
SpAmEnOt> list of new artical subject headers etc... BUT I want
SpAmEnOt> the selecting, threading, reading, composing,
SpAmEnOt> subscribing unsubscribing, and so forth to be done while
SpAmEnOt> NOT connected to the ISP's NNTP. And ALL actual posting
SpAmEnOt> of articals, and retrieving of subject headers and
SpAmEnOt> requested articals be done automaticaly in a user
SpAmEnOt> transparant process triggered the next time ppp-go is
SpAmEnOt> run, (just like sendmail and fetchmail can be set up to
SpAmEnOt> do for E-mail) WITHOUT having to get whole newsgroups or
SpAmEnOt> have a multiple user news spool that needs to be expired
SpAmEnOt> based on how long it's been there rather than simply
SpAmEnOt> deleted when user is done with it.
This sounds like a job for Gnus in `agent' mode.
mp
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Eric Melville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:30:00 GMT
uhm, wouldn't that mean that redhat is also the "aol of linux" ??
-E
> redhat-fully automated
> slackware-for do it yourselfers
> suse-havent used, but good cde i hear
> caldera-aol of linux i hear
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: email client advice and question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael A. Powe)
Date: 16 Mar 1999 19:50:13 -0800
"Craig Shields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am running RH5.2 as a workstation (laptop) on the LAN at my work and would
> like advice on a powerful email client. I am used to Eudora Pro (win95/98)
> and would like something with that kind of flexibility. Specifically,
> powerful filtering and the ability to respond to multiple accounts with what
> Eudora calls "multiple personalities"...i.e., allow me to respond to mail at
> craig@craig with that as the "reply-to" address and respond to mail at
> cmshields@korrnet with that as the "reply-to" address, etc. BTW, I am
> running KDE. Any suggestions??
>
> As for my question... I was going to try out EXMH mail client and have been
> having dificulty with getting it to send/receive mail. I'm using fetchmail
> and have it configured to work correctly (I think... works fine with the
> built-in KDE client). Do I need to add something to my .mh_profile to
> configure EXMH? And for Fetchmail, do I need to point it toward Sendmail or
> SMTP for each account?
By default, (n)mh looks at your local mail spool when you run `inc.' You
can set it up to do POP, but it has to be compiled in. Since exmh is
only a front-end for the mh system, all it really does is run the
various (n)mh programs in the background.
>From the nmh INSTALL file:
6) Edit the file `mts.conf' (installed in the nmh `etc' directory)
and make any necessary changes for the mail transport interface
you are using.
The default `mts.conf' file assumes you retrieve new mail from a
local (or NFS mounted) maildrop, and send outgoing mail to a mail
transfer agent (such as sendmail) on the local machine. If you
have enabled POP support and you want this to be the default method
of accessing new mail, you will need to change the values of the
variables "servers", "pophost", and "localname".
I don't know about "multiple personalities" but nmh is a very flexible
system; for instance, you can specify to inc the spool file from which
to pick up mail and the mail folder into which to drop it.
For filtering, I would suggest procmail. There's nothing you can't do
with it.
mp
--
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland Chess Club: http://www.rdrop.com/users/pcc
Listowner: trollope-l, "Anthony Trollope and his Contemporaries"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: signal 11 during mandrake install
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:50:22 GMT
It could be the size of the drive no linux seems to like my 8.4 gig
Seagate either. I solved the problem by using another 6 gig dirve to
install mandrake on. I used the latest Mandrake release 5.3.
Make sure the slash partition is near the start of the disk ( the
first partition is good)
You might also want to create a /usr partition as well. This seems to
work fine for me :
250 megs slash
120 megs swap
500 megs /usr
500 megs /opt
500 megs /home.
This should give you plenty of space for other operating systems as
well.
On 17 Mar 1999 03:33:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason
Rotunno) wrote:
>anyone ever get a signal 11 during a mandrake or redhat install? i'm
>trying to install mandrake 5.3. i boot up off the cdrom, use fdisk to
>create 3 partitions (swap, /, and /home), select where i want to mount
>what, tell it to format the drives, select which packages to install then
>i get an error 11 and says the installation has prematurely terminated and
>to reboot.
>
>one thing i noticed is that the first time i tried to install this i told
>it not to check for errors when formatting the drives. the second time i
>told it to check for errors and it hangs (or at least takes an
>*incredibly* long time to get past about 1/6th on the 64M swap partition)
>during the format. the drive i'm installing it to is a new 8.4 gig ide
>drive although i'm only using about 1.5 gigs for linux (the first time i
>tried the install i initially partitioned it using dos fdisk and made
>a primary partition of about 7 gigs then booted up w/ linux cd and used
>linux fdisk to create additional linux partitions...second time i tried to
>install i deleted all existing partitions - dos and linux, then booted up
>w/ linux cd and created linux partitions, but still no luck). the reason
>i'm giving so much HD info is because i have a funny feeling that may be
>the problem, but i'm really not sure. anyway...any help would be
>appreciated. thanks.
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From: "MokeKahuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:54:50 GMT
I think I got it this time but have all kinds of errors on unresolved
symbols for many modules. I think that might be the way I used the 'make
menuconfig' (a message I got directly that sender preferred that over 'make
config' -- I now agree).
I also used 'make zlilo' which was cleaner. This time 'make modules' and
'make modules_install' tend to be cleaner.
I still, however, have the problem of not being able to do 'netstat -M'
eventhough I have a clean recompile of the kernel with the IP forwarding or
masquerading options selected in either 'make config' or 'make menuconfig'.
Any more assistance for this poor, less than 1 month on linux?
Moses
>Larry Mintz wrote in message <7clh8c$cg3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>MokeKahuna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>: After confirming everything worked fine using ifconfig, netstat, and
>>: ipfwadm, I proceeded to 'make mrproper', 'make config', 'make dep ; make
>>: clean', and finally 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'. When I
>>: rebooted, however, it just went into a loop starting lilo then going
back
>to
>>: BIOS hardware startup. At this point the only thing I could do was boot
>>: from the distribution CD and copy my original 2.0.35 kernel back in
>(backup
>>: copy always saves you in cases like this).
>>
>>When did you actually build the kernel. None of the make steps above
>compile
>>the kernel. You need to run make zImage, or make zlilo, etc in order to
>>build a kernel.
>>
>>Larry
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: """"""""My SoundBlast 16 pnp isn't up yet""""""""""""
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:56:24 GMT
Yes most pci modems are winmodems they make fine coasters or sales on
ebay...
On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 04:29:29 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escape) wrote:
>
>last one, Is my Zoom 56k PCI FaxModem a Windmodem that Linux can't use
>to connect me to my local isp?
>
>Experts help me out please. thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Subject: Re: Opinions Needed for New App Planning
Date: 17 Mar 1999 02:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think that a JAVA browser would be VERY welcome. Especially if you make the
source GPL.
John McKown
<snip>
>Question: Would you anyone be willing to try a web browser
>"environment" (it's original..remember?) that is pure Java or would you
>prefer something built around Mozilla? Would Java cause you, as a Linux
>user, to shy away?
>-Eddy
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From: Matt Kuznicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 not displaying properly...
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:34:07 -0500
Rod Smith wrote:
>
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Al Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just installed Corel's WordPerfect * for Linux, and while the program
> > seems to run, all the icons, button, splash screens, or anything that
> > involves graphics is completely garbled. I've never had any other
> > problem with any other application, including Netscape, GIMP, or xv.
> > I'm running it on Red Hat 5.1 with X11R6, Afterstep, and an S3 Virge
> > board. Anyone experience something similar?
>
> If you're running at 24 bpp, that's the problem; WP doesn't get along with
> XFree86 at 24 bpp. It's fine at 16 bpp or at 32 bpp, and I'm told that
> Accelerated-X works fine with WP at 24 bpp, too.
Odd, I'm running it in 24bpp just fine, nothing's garbled. Are you
sure it's not a problem with specific a X server(s)? I'm running
XF86_I128, FWIW.
Matt
--
Matt Kuznicki -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://129.1.213.25, taking its own sweet time!
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partitions
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 05:36:30 GMT
I am having problems with Partition Magic not being able to recognize
partitions. After emailing the tech support, they said one of my ext2
partitions needed to be deleted, then re-created. Problem is, the one that
needs to be deleted has ALL my linux OS on it (slackware 3.6).
Unfortunately, this problem happened because I tried installing LILO on the
superblock of this partition, then making this partition bootable. That
didn't work, LILO reported it as "operating system missing" and now
Partition Magic complains about differing CHS settings...but I digress. My
question is, can I move all my data to the other linux partition, do my
stuff on the problematic partition, then move all the data back without any
problems? Is this possible?
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling XFree 3.3.3.1 with gcc in Slackware 3.5
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 05:39:03 GMT
If all you are looking for is support of a certain vid card, get the
Xserver for the card out of the libc binary directory and overwrite the
current one...
>Please, can someone help me with this :
>
>I have a Slackware 3.5 Linux installed here and my video board is a
SiS76326.
>This video board is not supported in the X11 that comes with Slack 3.5,
however
>, i downloaded the XFrees newest sources , and this version supports
SiS6326 .
>However , im having problems to compile it. Can someone help me ?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Subject: Windowmaker Error - Help
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:03:59 GMT
I'm using Windowmaker .51.2 which I downloaded from a RedHat mirror as an rpm,
I'm also using RedHat 5.2 and had a few run ins with Gnome, but 1.0 seems OK
and KDE1.1 seems OK.
My error in Windowmaker, which is my favorite X Desktop, setstyle produces the
following error:
setstyle: error in loading shared libraries
:undefined symbol: _register_frame_info
This has been a problem since one of my .50 upgrades. The FAQ mentions
something similar, and talks about a mismatch between the compiler for the
wmaker binary and the system libraries. But it doesn't mention what shared
libraries are used, other than libPropList.
Any and all help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris De Chiara
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Novice question - need help with DB2 in Linux.
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:42:20 GMT
Need help. I've just installed Linux 5.2 and I'm in the process of
installing DB2 5.2 Beta for Linux. During the installation it doesn't give
me the ability to choose TCP/IP properties (even though TCP/IP is installed
and configured for the the Linux box). Is there any reason why I don't get
the option to choose TCP/IP? Also, I mounted the CD and I'm running the
install from ./db2setup. Is this correct or should I be running the install
from the Packages/RPM? If so, how do I run the install from the RPM? I know
how to point the RPM to the CD-ROM but what then?
Is there a way I can verify that TCP/IP is enabled on the linux box other than
pinging addresses?
Sorry, but I'm a novice here and need some answers. Thanks
Send answer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ANDREW R. POST)
Subject: Re: Compiling XFree 3.3.3.1 with gcc in Slackware 3.5
Date: 16 Mar 1999 18:53:59 GMT
I'd be curious about this one myself. Though I'm not sure how necessary it
is to take the time to compile it. Tarball binaries are available at
xfree86.org that should work fine on Slackware.
Andrew Post
fsdfsdfds ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote: : Please, can someone help me with this :
: I have a Slackware 3.5 Linux installed here and my video board is a SiS76326.
: This video board is not supported in the X11 that comes with Slack 3.5, however
: , i downloaded the XFrees newest sources , and this version supports SiS6326 .
: However , im having problems to compile it. Can someone help me ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Some questions
Date: 16 Mar 1999 18:51:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Appleyard wrote:
>>
>> A few easy ones
>>
>> (1) If I 'cat' a binary file by mistake, I often end up with a garbaged
>> system - all messages and prompts are translated into Klingon - or
>> something like it. How do I recover without rebooting? Even exit
>> doesn't fix it.
>
><CONTROL>j reset <CONTROL>j
>
<snip>
If the above doesn't work, try typing in:
echo -e "\033c" <RETURN>
That usually works for me. I believe that what it does is send an
ESCAPE C to the terminal or terminal emulator, which for the very common
VT100 is a reset sequence. I.E. the binary characters that were spewing
out accidentally sent a legitimate command to your terminal or terminal
emulator to go into some weird graphics mode, and you need to get out of
it. (Not that you can't see what you're typing except the numbers).
--
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." With apologies
to Cato the Elder)
---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: "Stressed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: CR/LF Question
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:05:03 GMT
If I get a script file from the net using a DOS or Win9x machine, how can I
get it into Linux so that I can use it. The CR/LF problem produces nothing
but errors on scripts, and unreadable text sometimes.
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From: "Tom Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Delaying at the sendmail initialization
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:21:01 -0500
I am having this same problem. Sendmail is being delayed when I boot up and
it is also causing havoc for my web server.
When I originally set up my networking, I called the hostname
'dilbert.holmes.net' and the domain name as 'holmes.net'. and everything
worked fine.
When I changed the hostname to 'dilbert' and the hostname to nothing, this
is where it stopped working right. I did the change because when I tried to
look for 'dilbert.holmes.net' on my workstation (which is connected to the
net via cable modem) I got confused results since a domain already exists
for 'holmes.net'. This wasn't a problem for my static IP address of
192.168.0.100 on my internal network.
So, currently the /etc/sysconfig/network file: HOSTNAME=dilbert
is correct.
The /etc/hosts file has:
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
192.168.0.100 dilbert
192.168.0.12 ratbert
192.168.0.1 phb
The /etc/lmhosts file looks like this also.
The /etc/HOSTNAME file has the one line in it: dilbert
The /etc/networks has one line in it: HOSTNAME=dilbert
Do I need a domain name, or will a simple hostname do?
Anything to fix this problem from anyone would be greatly appreciated!
Tom
Rajat & Papia Goon wrote in message <7cbjeo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
> I installed rh5.2 on my m/c at the time of booting it is taking
>some time at the
>sendmail initialization phase. If anybody can help me in this respect
>how can I
>remove that delay phase. Please mail me mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
>
>Thanks in advance,
>-Rajat
>
>
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From: "Stressed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Security/Password Questions
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:07:54 GMT
Hi All,
I'm hanging a Linux machine off of the Net. So, naturally I'm reading on
security/firewall and testing security measures, etc. My question is about
cracking login passwords.
I've tried a few "password crackers" here.
I took one called "JTR", and used it on my /etc/passwd file in "plain old
crack" mode.
It almost immediately reports and verifies all accounts that don't have
somewhat complex passwords. Actually - ones with lousy passwords.
But, my questions is this:
I intentionally put a rather simple password on the root account to see how
fast these programs might find it. However, even though the root password is
more simple than the other user passwords - the cracker program has failed
(after 14 hours) to find the root password. Does the system do something
"different" to the root password as opposed to other passwords?
I'd also like to know about any "crackers" or the like and/or means of
obtaining root (especially root) and user passwords from my own system.
NOTE: I am NOT using shadowing to my knowledge, (unless some sort is
implemented by default). This is a straightforward RHL 5.2 install with no
bells, buzzers or whistles. Just studying security before I put my thingies
out there! And for those who care, here is my reason for focusing on passwd
files:
My friend and I are doing this jointly, (going to serve the www). I logged
into his Linux machine and DL'd his /etc/passwd file for analysis to prove a
breach. I then cracked his own "regular user" login info from his
/etc/passwd file and telneted to his box. I then downloaded all his *passwd*
files. Unfortunately, during a massive mget, my /etc/passwd file got
overwritten. Hence, upon reboot, I could not log into my own system without
repair :-)
Any and all help is appreciated.
JM
P.S. We're documenting everything for public record.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: DaZZa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: L I N U X + 8 0 8 8
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:40:11 +1100
On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> What is the point? You can get an old 386 for just a few dollars and then
> you can run Linux. I bought a 486-100 with 20MB for $30 from somebody and I
> use it for my gateway firewall machine. I admit, that sort of deal is
> probably not common, but a 386 should be easily aquired for this sort of
> price.
There wasn't a point. Someone asked a question. I gave a negative answer,
and a suggestion to an alternative.
I suppose I coulda just been completely negative, and just said "no", like
numerous others, but I thought I'd add something constructive to my reply
{as did a few others}.
I guess I'm just in a minority.
DaZZa
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From: Fabrice Gesnouin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which X11Amp is stable
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:23:48 +0100
Wael Sedky wrote:
> I have been using x11amp0.7 and it was very stable. I noticed they have
> removed that version from their website. Has anyone tried the new one 0.9?
>
> Is it good , i mean stable?
>
> Thanks
I've never had any problem with it, it's quite stable and uses less
ressources and they have added some options like the equalizer !
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