Linux-Misc Digest #513, Volume #19               Fri, 19 Mar 99 07:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: Help a newbie (Pete)
  Re: is there a "cd jewel case" insert builder package for linux ? (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: Public license question (Lynn Winebarger)
  Re: SB16PnP-How? (Patrick Draper)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Pas Moi)
  Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive (Brett W. McCoy)
  Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive ("Greg Waugh")
  Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux on Compaq ProLian 1850R - any luck? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SB16PnP-How? (Precious Metal)
  Binutils compilation problem (Phil Cowans)
  Linux/Apache performance question (Greg Burrell)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (david parsons)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Johan Kullstam)
  PHP3 and SuSE 6.0 (David Steuber)
  Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: binary Emacs 20.x for i386? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive ("Greg Waugh")

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From: Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help a newbie
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:00:06 +0000

benjamin j snyder wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Paul Richards  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Oh, and another thing.
> >Can linux access my win95 partition and can win95 access my linux
> >partition?
> 
> Other people have posted about making win95 the default, but to access the
> win95 (DOS) partition from linux, just mount it like any other device.  you may
> have to specify the type of FS to it...something like this:
> mount /dev/hda3 /win95 -tmsdos

This won't support long file names, use 'vfat' instead of 'msdos' to get
this (also depends on whether such support has been included in you
kernel (usually is though). Also, if this works, to save having to
remember all that command, edit the file /etc/fstab to include a line
something like:

/dev/hda3 /win95  vfat noauto,user 0 0

see man page on fstab for more detail on this file and what the various
bits mean. But once this has been done, you should be able to just type:

% mount /dev/hda3 

and it will get looked up from the /etc/fstab file (think you could also
type 'mount /win95', but I'm not sure off the top of my head and my
linux box is at home.

> 
> It's been a while since I've done this, so you may need a space between the
> -t and msdos...I am assuming hda3 is where your win95 partition is...I just
> picked a number, it may be hda1, hda2, hda3, hda4, hda5, hdb1, hdb2 etc.  But
> since you have both OS's installed I am assuming you know where that is.
> <SNIP>
> Now, as far as Win95 being able to access the linux partition...I dont think
> there's a way in hell that will happen.  MS cant even get win95 to read NTFS
> (their own alternative FS), so I dont think it will read ext2 either.  If you
> find out please let me know, I'm curious about getting that to work too (for
> when I reinstall my game platofrm - I mean Win98 - on my machine).

Someone has written a Windoze utility to read (and write I think) to
ext2 partitions, but I cannot remember the name of it or where it's
kept. I seem to recall there were reliability issues about it though
that may make it trash your HD under W95 (it apparently works fine from
WinNT). The link has been posted somewhere in one of the following NG's
if you want to search though:

here
comp.os.linux.x
uk.comp.os.linux
alt.linux

possibly a couple of others with linux in the title

> 
> Hope this info helps, even though I'm too windy for my own good and wrote
> entirely too much about how to mount other partitions.
> 
> --
> Ben Snyder

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: is there a "cd jewel case" insert builder package for linux ?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:50:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
dan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>is there a software package to make/print inserts for
>cd jewel cases ?

I do that with TeX and PSTricks, making a label for the CD
itself and both top and bottom covers for the case too.
It is not a simple plug and play package, but if you have
some experience with TeX it shouldn't be too hard to figure
out how to modify it for any given brand of CD label blanks
and any given type of a label/cover you want.  As is, what
I have prints an eps image on the right side of the CD label
and on the back of the case cover.  It prints a duplicate of
the CD label on the case top cover.  A title and a copyright
notice go on the sides of the case cover (folded over from
the back cover).  In addition to the image on the CD label,
there is a title on the top, a logo image at the bottom along
with a date.  A copyright notice and address are printed in
a arc around the edge of the disk.  All of the above is in
color, of course.

I'll email you the basic package as is if you would like to
see it.

  Floyd



-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pictures of the North Slope at  <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Winebarger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 19 Mar 1999 11:05:18 GMT

In article <DMeI2.709$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
PC PRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Boy are you guys some law-spouting Jeopardy whiz-kids.  Does the L in Linux
>stand for lawyers, or what?  ......
>

   For my own part, I've been reading some law books recently because I
want to be ready if a lawsuit comes my way (for whatever reason).  I
don't trust (or really expect, given a possible malpractice claim) a
lawyer to give me good advice for aggressively pursuing my rights when
the law is ambiguous about it.  

Lynn


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From: Patrick Draper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SB16PnP-How?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:51:19 GMT

> I have the SB 16 Vibra PnP.  I built the soundcard into the kernel
> (rather than a module) and ranpnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf
> cd /etc
> isapnp isapnp.conf
> 
> make sure isapnp isapnp.conf  is somewhere in one of your bootup
> scripts
> 
> Don't forget to put in the stats for your soundcard when you add it
> into the kernel.

I have a solution for you, as well as a question of my own...

I upgraded my kernel to 2.2.3, and built the kernel with the
soundblaster
support as modules. 

Look in the kernel documentation directory
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Sound

There is a file called VIBRA16 or something close to that. In it there
is a configuration file that you can save out to isapnp.conf. You will 
need to upgrade your isapnp package, so go to a RPM repository and
get 1.17 or 1.18 from there.

The other thing you will need to do is set up your conf.modules (or
modules.conf) file correctly. In the kernel documentation directory,
there is another file called README.Modules. That has all the info
you need to set that file up.


OK. That will get you half way there. My Vibra when configured like
this will play 8-bit sounds only. When I run RealPlayer it will only
make noise when I disable 16-bit sound.

My question to everyone out there is How do I get my Vibra Soundblaster
PNP
to play 16-bit sound?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Patrick Draper - Phoenix, Arizona| Don't   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Join the Free Trek Project       | Fear    | Father Order runs at a
http://freetrek.linuxgames.com   | The     | good pace, but old Mother
Be Microsoft Free - Use Linux    | Penguin | Chaos is winning the race.

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From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:49:54 GMT

>> "CB" == Christopher Browne wrote on Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:21:20 GMT:

CB> On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 17:51:40 GMT, Gianni Mariani
CB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The only ideology MS has is capitalism.

CB> Can you elaborate on how earnings accruing from ownership of
CB> capital explains Microsoft's actions?

since you ask:


0. seems like they bought some important pieces of intellectual
"property" early in their history.  note that bill chose to stash his
cash in production, and not on the roulette table, real estate, or in
hedonistic dissipation.  he took his money (how much from daddy?) and
turned it into capital.

1. they seem to be have extended this "ownership" of a few pieces of
intellectual "property" into even more "property rights" and a big
pile of money.  for ms, then we have M-C-M' & C-M-C'.  

2. their system of production is more or less equivalent to wage
labour.

yes, maybe ms is a product of bill's psychosis, but for me, if it
walks like a duck...

you could have argued that the nature of the information industry
somehow negates the fundamentals of capitalism, but you seem more
concerned about defending the image of capitalism.  admitting that ms
is capitalist, will make capitalism look bad, which i guess is a
problem for you because you have an emotional comittment to
capitalism.  essentially, you're halfway to giving up on capitalism
already.  you might as well take the plunge, because it will be easier 
than arguing that every uncle scrooge and ig farben isn't "really
capitalist." 


and how did you work yourself out of the plonk zone on my score file?


ciao,

g.y.

-- 
Guy Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [remove noise]

Mmmmmm-MMMMMM!!  A plate of STEAMING PIECES of a PIG mixed with the
shreds of SEVERAL CHICKENS!! ... Oh BOY!!  I'm about to swallow a
TORN-OFF section of a COW'S LEFT LEG soaked in COTTONSEED OIL and
SUGAR!! ... Let's see ... Next, I'll have the GROUND-UP flesh of CUTE,
BABY LAMBS fried in the MELTED, FATTY TISSUES from a warm-blooded
animal someone once PETTED!! ... YUM!!  That was GOOD!!  For DESSERT,
I'll have a TOFU BURGER with BEAN SPROUTS on a stone-ground, WHOLE
WHEAT BUN!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:52:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:54:07 -0500, Greg Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Well, there are several reasons I want to move it.  First of all, it works
>perfectly, second of all, the drive that it's currently on is slow and very
>old and I don't really trust it anymore.  That and I don't really have room
>in the case for it with these new drives.  I suppose I could do it that way,
>but like I said, it's a server so I don't really want it down that long... I
>was hoping I could prepare the second disk, reboot and have it ready to go
>in a few minutes...

At the very least, you will need to create a swap partition and such.  
And there's the issue of the boot partition... I'd do a minimal
installation, then move your old system over (i.e., /etc, /home, etc.)
partition by partition.  Make sure you make a good back up of everything
first!

-- 
Brett W. McCoy           
                                        http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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From: "Greg Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:49:23 GMT

Well, there are several reasons I want to move it.  First of all, it works
perfectly, second of all, the drive that it's currently on is slow and very
old and I don't really trust it anymore.  That and I don't really have room
in the case for it with these new drives.  I suppose I could do it that way,
but like I said, it's a server so I don't really want it down that long... I
was hoping I could prepare the second disk, reboot and have it ready to go
in a few minutes...

Wait a second... crazy idea...  has anyone ever moved a Linux installation
using Patition Magic 4.0 for Windows?  I know it sounds crazy, but I've used
it very successfully to move NT before and it claims to do Linux...  that's
just another thought too...

Brett W. McCoy wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:04:28 -0500, Greg Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hey fellow Linux users!  I'm going to be moving my current RedHat 5.2
Linux
>>server to a new hard drive.  Everything in the system is going to be the
>>same, just a new /sda drive.  I'm just curious if anyone has a procedure
to
>>do this of if it is documented anywhere.  I thought I would do a cp -a *
(or
>>a few with correct tmp mount points), then boot from a floppy with the new
>>HD as root and run LILO, but I'm fuzzy on how to set up the /proc and /dev
>>filesystem....  and if there are going to be any issues with the swap
>>space...  Thanks everyone!  Any help would be very appreciated!
>
>The /proc filesystem is a virtual filesystem and is created dynamically by
>the loaded kernel.  /dev is a different story.  You may be better off
>backing up your important stuff (i.e., /home & /usr directories),
>reinstalling directly onto the new hard drive, and then restoring your
>backed up stuff.
>
>But is there any reason you can't keep your boot partition on the current
>drive and just create new (and bigger) partitions on the new one?
>
>--
>Brett W. McCoy
>                                        http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>A long-forgotten loved one will appear soon.
>
>Buy the negatives at any price.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:52:35 GMT

In comp.os.linux.hardware Greg Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey fellow Linux users!  I'm going to be moving my current RedHat 5.2 Linux
> server to a new hard drive.  Everything in the system is going to be the

Simple.  Setup the new drive with fdisk, etc and mount it under /mnt.
Mount all the partitions there, just like it'd be if you booted
up.. you know, /mnt /mnt/usr or whatever you like.  Then do

cd /
find . | grep -v /mnt | grep -v /proc | cpio -dpmu /mnt

You should be able to edit your lilo.conf to point to the new drive,
then run lilo, then boot the new drive.  This has worked for me, but I
may have left something out, so check the man pages and THINK before
you act.


robert

-- 
robert cope     austin, texas     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.linuxwizard.net        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq ProLian 1850R - any luck?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:53:08 GMT

Hello

During installation you cannot configure the NIC. Therefore after complete
installation follow the procedure given below.

1. Execute the command "insmod tlan" at the prompt. 2. Execute the command
"netconf" at the prompt. 3. Configure the NIC by selecting the "Basic Host
Information option" and entering the IP Address, Netmask, Net device as eth0
and Kernal as tlan. 4. Select the "Gateway and routing" option from main menu
and fill in the detail of Gateway address and without fail enable the Gateway
option. 5. Accept the changes and exit from utility. 6. If you are installing
Redhat Linux 5.0 or 5.1 add the line "insmod tlan" in
/etc/rc.d/init/d/network. 7. To confirm about the configuration execute the
command "ifconfig -a" which will display the details of your NIC configured.

Regards

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  John Sinnott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone managed to get Linux up and running on the ProLiant 1850R?  I
> know it is possible, since Compaq is now shipping these boxes configured
> for Linux.  The only problem I am having is getting the embedded 10/100
> UTP NIC that comes with the box working.  Is there a compatible driver
> available, or do I need to just purchase another NIC for one of the PCI
> slots?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>

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From: Precious Metal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SB16PnP-How?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:50:23 GMT


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eric malloy wrote:

> How do I setup my Sound Blaster PnP 16.. i got this info about it out of
> NT:
>
> IRQ=5
> DMA= 00
> DMA= 00
> I/O Range: 0220-022F
> I/O Range: 0300-0301
>
>

I have the SB 16 Vibra PnP.  I built the soundcard into the kernel (rather
than a module) and ranpnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf
cd /etc
isapnp isapnp.conf

make sure isapnp isapnp.conf  is somewhere in one of your bootup scripts

Don't forget to put in the stats for your soundcard when you add it into
the kernel.



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From: Phil Cowans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Binutils compilation problem
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:42:22 +0000

I've just been trying to compile binutils 2.9.1, but I keep getting an
undefined reference to '__sigsetjmp' in 'libopcodes.a'. Does anyone have
any idea what the problem is, and how I can sort it out?

Cheers,

Phil.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Burrell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux/Apache performance question
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:01:56 GMT

Hi Everybody,

        I'm trying out a Linux/Apache combination as a web server.  Our 
test model uses a lot of files (160,000) so we've tried both software and 
hardware RAID at level 0.  

The odd thing is that the Linux software RAID outperforms the hardware
RAID.  I suspect the megaraid driver just isn't very good.  There's plenty
of unused memory and CPU on the system, I don't know where the bottleneck
is. Perhaps I'm missing something?  (So far the only suggestion I've 
recieved is to switch to FreeBSD but I'll stick with Linux for now.)

The system is a 1-CPU 450MHz HP box, 1GB RAM, and a NetRAID 3Si controller
with 6 10,000 RPM SCSI disks.  We've tried the 2.0.36 and 2.2.3 kernels as
well as the .92 and .96 megaraid drivers.  I also upped the max number of
files, inodes, and percentage of memory used for file system cache in /proc.
Apache has plenty of servers configured (MaxClients, MaxSpareServers, 
StartServers, etc) and doesn't appear to be a problem here.

Thanks for any help, ideas, or pointers you all can give.

-Greg

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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:52:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Kullstam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "David A. Frantz" wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi Robert;
>> > 
>> > Robert Krawitz wrote in message ...
>> > >"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > >
>> > >> Try this site http://humbolt.geo.uu.nl/Linux-MM/more_than_1GB.html to
>> > gets a
>> > >> little info on the current I386 capability.   Nothing specific on XEON
>> > >> there, well at least I didn't find anything.    Sounds like your trying
>> > to
>> > >> apply a low end (Yes I mean the XEON) PC chip to a project that requires
>> > a
>> > >> 64 bit CPU.   You may want to consider an Alpha, or a POWERPC box from
>> > IBM.
>> > >
>> > >I think this is a tad unfair.  I'm disappointed that Linus doesn't
>> > >want to enable large memory addressing on the x86.
>
>i can understand linus completely.  do you remember 16 bit segment
>hell?

    How long does it take to fill up a 64k code+data segment?  Now
    how long does it take to fill up a 4gb code+data segment?  I'm
    sure that one of the days we'll see programs that are larger
    than this, but it may not be for a couple of year yet.  If we
    can live with a maximum of 4gb of space per program (that's 4
    times the current limitation, 2 times if you do kernel hacks)
    the kernel will be the only entity that needs to worry about
    segment+offset addresses.

    segment+offset addresses are a bit of a pain, but if you're
    programming in a higher level language they certainly aren't more of
    a pain than the 68ks separate address and data registers were.

>> There are multiple reasons for and against going with an Alpha or PPC
>> vs. Intel... on of which is *all* the other hardware is Intel x86 based
>> and having *binary* compatibility is important. 
>
>who cares about binary compatibility?  just recompile!

    And recertify.  So you'll lose three months doing the certification,
    but your competitors will gladly stand down and not take advantage
    of you being out of the market.

                  ____
    david parsons \bi/ And I have a lovely bridge in Portland, Oregon, that
                   \/   I'd like to sell.  It's being refurbished, and it's
                                                             priced to move!

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:52:56 GMT

o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Johan Kullstam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >i can understand linus completely.  do you remember 16 bit segment
> >hell?
> 
>     How long does it take to fill up a 64k code+data segment?  Now
>     how long does it take to fill up a 4gb code+data segment?  I'm
>     sure that one of the days we'll see programs that are larger
>     than this, but it may not be for a couple of year yet.  If we
>     can live with a maximum of 4gb of space per program (that's 4
>     times the current limitation, 2 times if you do kernel hacks)
>     the kernel will be the only entity that needs to worry about
>     segment+offset addresses.

i can accept multiple processes, none of which take up more than 2 (or
perhaps 3) GB each, yet the whole thing needs more than 4 GB to fit
into memory.  the heavyweight application (yes singular, if you had
two independents, you could run them on two boxen) will need to be
written so that it uses multiple processes.  some database type stuff
may already be in such a form.

>     segment+offset addresses are a bit of a pain, but if you're
>     programming in a higher level language they certainly aren't more of
>     a pain than the 68ks separate address and data registers were.

the 68k was a wonderful processor.  C compilers could easily figure
out the difference between an int and a pointer and put the right
thing in the right slot.  that wasn't a pain at all.  you could pretty
much guess what the C code would translate into.  the m68k was a fine
cpu.

the small, medium, compact, far, huge memory model thing was much more
difficult.  i remember working on both m68k and x86 back in 1990 and
the m68k just *so* much easier to deal with.  x86 has register
over-specialization in combination with a dearth of registers.  the
16 bit segments made it suck that much more.

i remember coding C for the x86 in 16 bit mode and it was no fun to
juggle memory models.  huge pointers will break C++ for sure.  look at
NULL, it's an int (or maybe a long).  things go wrong if pointers are
64 bit quantities and NULL is a 32 bit thing.  i am not sure if the
standard allows NULL to be 0LL.  i know it disallows (void *) 0
(stupid yes, but that's how it is).

if i ever need to address more than 4 GB from a single process, it is
high time for me to get a 64 bit processor.  it's as simple as that.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PHP3 and SuSE 6.0
Date: 17 Mar 1999 17:44:37 -0500

When Apache was installed on one of my systems from the SuSE 6.0
installation CD, a server side scripting language called PHP3 was
included.  Last week, I installed the Apache source package and added
the SSLeay patch and built Apache SSLeay.  I looked for the PHP3
package so that I could also compile that as a module for Apache
SSLeay.  Unfortunatly, I could not locate the package that PHP3 is
in.  Can anyone point me to it?  I want the source package so I can
compile it as an Apache module.

Thanks

-- 
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
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Where was it you said you wanted to go today?  Sorry, you can't get
there from here.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:55:40 GMT

According to Greg Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hey fellow Linux users!  I'm going to be moving my current RedHat 5.2 Linux
> server to a new hard drive.  Everything in the system is going to be the
> same, just a new /sda drive.  I'm just curious if anyone has a procedure to
> do this of if it is documented anywhere.

Yup indeedoodaladeedily it is!  It can be found in any of the HOWTO
archives, including the ones on your RH cdrom.

-p.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: binary Emacs 20.x for i386?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 11:48:25 +0100

Joe Keane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  > Oh that.  If you mean Emacs showing random fragments of documentation
  > instead of what you want, i've seen it on various systems since before
  > Linux existed.  Arguably the RH folks were not as careful as possible,
  > but it seems clear that Emacs does this without much provocation.

Hm.  I remember it has happened to me, too.  But I don't recall that
it has happened with recent Emacsen.  Was something done recently in
that area?

kai
-- 
I like _b_o_t_h kinds of music.

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From: "Greg Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:48:35 GMT

Hey fellow Linux users!  I'm going to be moving my current RedHat 5.2 Linux
server to a new hard drive.  Everything in the system is going to be the
same, just a new /sda drive.  I'm just curious if anyone has a procedure to
do this of if it is documented anywhere.  I thought I would do a cp -a * (or
a few with correct tmp mount points), then boot from a floppy with the new
HD as root and run LILO, but I'm fuzzy on how to set up the /proc and /dev
filesystem....  and if there are going to be any issues with the swap
space...  Thanks everyone!  Any help would be very appreciated!

--
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Greg Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Manager of Systems Operations
Productivity OnLine



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