Linux-Misc Digest #513, Volume #20 Sun, 6 Jun 99 07:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: vmware networking? (Dave)
Re: GCC Compatibility (Andrea Peri)
Re: g77 anyone? (W Canedigh)
Grand Prix Legends Linux Petition: Last call for signatures (Uwe Schuerkamp)
VGA driver problem and soundcard problem (Paul)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (W Canedigh)
Linux won't find my Motherboard sound. (Vikinsey)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (W Canedigh)
Re: A new front in the war is opening! (David Hallowell)
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Alex Lam)
IRQ Tune ("Nigel Sim")
Re: I Still cant get the new kernel to install in SuSE1.6 (David Hallowell)
remote logins (Peter Caron)
Re: Recompiling my kernel (brian moore)
Questions about volume and file status (Joe Pelkey)
HELP: 2.2.* kernel boot fails after I've recompiled
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vmware networking?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:17:06 GMT
mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
:> I cant seem to get hostonly networking going with windows95 as the
:>guest OS. Does Hostonly networking require ipforwarding or any other
:>configuration besides the guest OS stuff?
: You will need to use ip forwarding / masquerading if you want the guest
: OS to be able to talk to the outside world via the host. If you only
: want the guest OS to talk to the host, then you don't need it.
OK, thats what I needed to know. I'm having a problem just getting the two
sides to ping each other.
I think my lack of windows expeirence is giving me a problem.
What settings are required on the windows side just so I can at least ping
the linux side?
--
Dave.-- The email address above does work :)
Windows95, Word97, Excel95: With all the criticisms of Microsoft, at
least they provide "best-before" dating on many of their products...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrea Peri)
Subject: Re: GCC Compatibility
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:03:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:07:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrea Peri) wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I have compiled a little program on a Linux Machine with RedHat 5.2
>using gcc
>i.e: gcc -i test.c -o test.execute
>
>and it work fine.
>
>But if I try to execute same executable on a Linux Machine with a
>older Linux, it is refused to execute, saying
>
>"file not found."
>
>Someone can help me ?
>
>thanks in advance.
>
>Andrea.
>
Hi !
I have make other tests
and I see some interesting (for me) thinks:
If I make a static linked library
ie:
gcc -i test.c -o test.execute -static
the test.execute ( obviously with the right permission) is executed
on the older linux
but the size il about 500K !!!
against 22K of the version without the option "-static"
so the problem is in the library used to make the executable
now i need force the version used in my redhat gcc to use the same
version available in the older linux.
it is:
(in the older linux)
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/specs
gcc version 2.7.2
against the library:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/specs
gcc version 2.7.2.3
used in the redhat version.
Someone know how ?
Thanks in advance.
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: g77 anyone?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:01:38 -0400
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Oliver ... the speed number on a SGI box is the same for the bus as for
the CPU. That, alone, is enough to account for quite a speed difference.
The 350 mhz K6 is choking on a =< 100 mhz bus. The SGI machine is
chugging along with a bus running at 195 mhz ... and taking everything
the cpu can toss at it.
Your 'problem' is more likely hardware-centric than software based.
Bill
Mark Brown wrote:
>
> Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Oliver D. Bedford wrote:
>
> > > does anybody here use fortran on Linux? I�ve compiled a f77 program on
> > > a K6-2 (350 Mhz) and it is slower compared to a SGI Box (R10000 @ 195
> > > Mhz)
> > > by a factor of 3-4.
>
> g77 isn't always the best compiler there is for optimization - it does
> pretty well on some programs, and poorly on some othera. The
> following options can help improve performance, but may not all be
> supported in all gcc/g77 versions:
>
> -Os - optimize for size (can fit things into cache)
> -funroll-loops
> -funroll-all-loops - unroll loops (works better for FPU than integer)
> -malign-double - you need at least glibc2.0.7 for this to work
> -mcpu=amdk6 - tune for K6 (drop the "amd" in egcs snapshots)
> -march=amdk6 - generate K6-specific code (drop "amd" as above)
>
> They should all be supported by egcs and Pentium gcc. There are some
> other suggestions in the g77 manual. You might also want to give a
> recent egcs or pgcc snapshot a spin, or at least a newer compiler.
>
> > Fortran is part of a nightmare period I try to forget.
>
> IME it's a perfectly nice language for numerical programming.
>
> --
> Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
> http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
> EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
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From: Uwe Schuerkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.autos.simulators,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Grand Prix Legends Linux Petition: Last call for signatures
Date: 6 Jun 1999 08:33:49 GMT
Please find below the article I posted a couple of weeks ago, asking
the racing sim and linux community to support my Grand Prix Legends for
Linux petition. This is the last call for signatures; I'll leave the
petition up until the end of June and then mail printouts of the list
to both Sierra Germany and Sierra international.
Thanks to all those who have already signed; I would never have thought
so many of you would like to see the best racing simulation to date
on our platform of choice.
Regards & let's all help Tux the penguin to get his drive in a Lotus!
Uwe
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Hi Linux lovers,
I've put up a little petition that I would very much like you to sign
in order to ask Sierra / Papyrus to port their award winning
Sixties racing simulation "Grand Prix Legends" to our favorite gaming
platform.
If you're only halfway interested in seeing more commercial grade
games and simulation for Linux, please go to
http://www.schuerkamp.de/cgi-bin/sign.cgi?function=list
and and your name to the signers list. The petition form will remain
up for a couple of weeks, then I'll make a hardcopy and mail the stuff
to the addressed companies.
Thanks in advance for your time,
Uwe Schuerkamp
(hoover at telemedia . de)
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From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux,alt.binaries.warez.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: VGA driver problem and soundcard problem
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:29:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi guys,
I am trying to install LINUX. This was without too much problems however
I do not know what to choose for my VGA card driver (the VGA card I own
is a chaintech DESPERADO AGP-SI30 with a SiS6326 chipset, adaptor type
2D/3D.
Also I still have to install my soundcard. This one is integrated on the
main board and this is the chaintech CT-6SSA2 (ESS Solo-1 audio chip).
So any pointers of how to do this is also nice to have.
Any help most welcome.
Bye,
Paul
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:06:12 -0400
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Jeff ... you wouldn't! Or would you? :))))
Bill
Jeff Holloway wrote:
>
> Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Although this isn't the forum for tech support, you missed a step in your
> > procedure.
>
> > You installed the mpri386 after applying SP4. This was a bad idea. SP4 has
> > fixes for these features and making changes to the networking components
> > without reapplying the service pack will usually cause problems (including
> > blue screens)
>
> > My argument still stands - a PROPERLY configured NT box will not blue screen
>
> Care to give me the ip address of YOUR NT server? :)
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Holloway | He had that rare weird electricity about him --
> Systems Administrator| that extremely wild and heavy presence that you
> Tech 7 Systems, Inc. | only see in a person who has abandoned all hope
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of ever behaving "normally" - Hunter S. Thompson,
> | "Fear and Loathing '72"
> Not a member of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) and not Unit #1572
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikinsey)
Subject: Linux won't find my Motherboard sound.
Date: 6 Jun 1999 07:08:46 GMT
I have an amd266 motherboard with 3dsound support built-in, and NO soundcard.
Does anyone know how I can get RedHat 4.2 to recognize and configure my sound?
I'm also having the same problem with my onboard 3d video support?
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From: W Canedigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:15:35 -0400
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Stuart Fox wrote:
> You may be confused with Windows 95 which is not worth defending
>
> Stu
You are right, Stu. Except on slow news days it is barely worth
attacking.
Bill
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From: David Hallowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A new front in the war is opening!
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 11:36:32 +0100
Vikinsey wrote:
>
> I recently learned that Microprose is planning a Linux release of Call to
> Power, but!
If you're on about Civilization:Call to Power - it's already out:
http://www.lokigames.com/products/civ/civ.html and it's NOT Microprose
it's Loki.
> 1.They're going to charge serious money
Don't people normally do this for games?
> 2.They're not going to release the source code
It's up to them. It's called freedom. They've got as much right not to
release the source code as Linus had to release his.
I prefer Open Source / free software and will always choose the open
source alternative above the proprietry model but some companies are as
yet unwilling to release their source code.
> Hey, get with it! The corporate slugs are trying to seduce us! If Master
> Torvald can give away the magic that makes Linux happens, then so can the
> corporate vampires!
It's Torvalds not Torvald! Many companies are still doubtful about the
ability of open source to make money and that's what businesses are
about to make money - there's nothing evil about that except when
companies exploit their position (e.g microsoft)
> There's a reason Master T used the copywrite he did! To keep the vampires
> OUT!!!
No it wasn't. Linus doesn't even mind binary only kernel modules
(although I do disagree with them)
> Proprietarianism has NO PLACE in the Linux community! Linux is NOT about
> money!
No Linux is about making a decent operating system that is *useful* to
people. For many people games are the only reason to boot into Windows
at least if the games come over to Linux it's one less proprietry
product (Windows) that people have to buy.
> If you're like me, and can remember those damn little punch cards, and the days
> when TelNet was the new frontier, you know what a sorry state slugs like the
> King of Redmond have reduced the computer community to. They almost
> extinguished the free-flow of ideas and code, and now that we're fighting back,
> they have the greed to try and litigate us out of existence!
You don't want to return to them days do you? But yes although MS's
dominance has been somewhat damaging to the computer industry and the
killing of free flow and ideas you can't blame all proprietry software
for that.
> I will have nothing to do with Microprose's game, and am seriously considering
> mailing back all the Microprose products I possess in protest.(I can't use them
> since I gleefully wiped the Abonination(W95) from my system(I even run PCDOS
> instead of the dos that starts with an 'M'))
So you actually own some proprietary games then? If you own them when
you used W95 what's the difference. Like I say. A proprietary game on a
free OS is better than proprietary game on a proprietary OS as it's only
one piece of proprietary software you have to buy.
> Please join me in boycotting this sleazy attempt to establish corporate
> proprietarianism in the community of Linux Users.
I think other companies got their first. Before the game makers there
was a lot of other proprietary software out there.
> Yes, I do believe the monkeys who sat at their consoles and sweated out this
> code deserve recognition for their labors. But does it HAVE to be cash? And
> does anyone believe that the apes who actually DID the work will see any of the
> money Microprose wants to suck out of us?
Well John Carmack from idSoftware who makes Quake 3 (for many platforms
including Linux) have donated some cash to some open source project (I
think it was Mesa 3D). So I wouldn't rule it out.
> Help me spread the word! To your e-mailers! Urge everyone, as I am doing: Do
> NOT buy this bait!
and to you. Don't use AOL ;)
> If it was an independent development group that created the game, and were the
> ones saying 'Hey, we put ten zillion hours into this and we need to re-stock
> our 'fridge before we starve," I wouldn't be writing this, but it's NOT! It's
> just another corporation trying to exploit our desire for quality
> entertainment!
Well it's not Microprose it's Loki and they are independent. They
arranged with Activision to be the developers of the game on the Linux
platform. They are a company dedicated to porting popular games to
Linux. If you like their products they deserve your cash.
> (Oh, and Microprose, before you send your lawers after ME for voicing my
> opinion(I'm sure your shysters will call it libel, or slander, or witchcraft,
> or whatever) If you want to be proprietary about code you create to run on a
> proprietary OS, that's FINE! That's free enterprise, and that's the way it
> SHOULD be. However, Linux is, by the express copyright of its creator,
> NON-proprietary.
Yes the OS is it doesn't mean the applications should be. e.g. does it
mean because Windows is proprietary you can't write open source
applications for it?
> That means: Keep your greed out! It's unwanted, unwelcome, and un-Linux!)
Linux is about freedom. They're free to not release their source code
but then again someone else is free to come along and write an open
source clone. If you're so worried shut up and get coding!
--
David Hallowell - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
UKUUG Linux '99 Conference 25-26th June 1999
Info and bookings: http://www.linux.ukuug.org/linux99/
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:08:41 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Alex Lam wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
> >> fine until
> >> I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
> >> netscape frozen
> >> up. All the keys and mouse are disabled. <ctrl><alt><del> had no
> >
> >I think that generally control/alt/delete does nothing in X.
> It doesn't. But, unless things are really bad, you can switch to
> another virtual terminal with <ctrl><alt><Fx> where Fx is some function
> key, like F2, F3, F4 (usually you startx from virtual terminal at F1,
> and it puts it out on something like F7 or F8, you want to go somewhere
> in between, then, from the command line, use ps to find out what processes
> are running then kill them (use kill -9 if you want to use the big hammer)
> until you get satisfaction.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind .
Alex Lam.
> ...<snip>...
> >--
> >Cheers,
> >Bev
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >"Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built
> > into the User?" -- Steve Shaw, regarding Win95
> >
> >
>
> --
> Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
> ("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." A toned down
> adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
> ---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
--
*remove the X if reply by e mail.
** no more M$ Windoze.
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From: "Nigel Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: IRQ Tune
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:34:46 +1000
Hi,
I am trying to set up IRQ tune on my 486 net gateway in an attempt to
improve the throughput and packet-loss rates it is incurring but I am unable
to get it set up.
I am running Debian 2.1 with kernel 2.2.6. All the packages are up to date
with those on the Debian mirrors.
When I run irqtune with the -e switch I get the following:
/sbin/irqtune -e
irqtune: version is 0.6
irqtune: kernel version 2.2.6
tblread: SYNTAX ' CPU0 '
probe: irqtune must be invoked via the full path -- OK
probe: /sbin in $PATH -- YES
probe: insmod found in $PATH (/sbin) -- OK
probe: insmod simple execution -- OK
probe: insmod has version (2.1.121) -- YES
probe: rmmod found in insmod directory -- OK
probe: insmod version supports command line options -- OK
probe: insmod version (2.1.121) compatible with kernel version (2.2.6) --
ERROR
probe: insmod version should be 2.1.34 (or better) -- OK
probe: insmod and kernel compatible with CONFIG_MODVERSIONS -- OK
probe: irqtune_mod loading will be tried -- OK
probe: kernel version irqtune built under (2.2.6) matches current system --
YES
probe: kernel IRQ handling is compatible -- OK
probe: kernel has module support (CONFIG_MODULES) -- OK
probe: kernel has symbols -- OK
probe: kernel is using versions (CONFIG_MODVERSIONS) -- NO
probe: kernel symbols are checksummed (CONFIG_MODVERSIONS) -- NO
probe: kernel has /proc/interrupts -- OK
irqtune: probe detected errors
irqtune: loading not performed (may be overriden by -f)
irqtune: complete
It would appear to me that insmod is out of date, but it seems to be the
latest version I can find, and appropiate for this kernel.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Nigel
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From: David Hallowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup.misc
Subject: Re: I Still cant get the new kernel to install in SuSE1.6
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 11:08:15 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi there
>
> i have been trying for 3 days to get my new kernel to install
> properly in SuSE 6.1, i have tried make_install, tried copying zImage
> tio boot directory and running lilo, and many toher recommendations
> but no luck.
I think in SuSE (you can check yourself) that LILO is configured to look
for a file vmlinuz in the /boot directory.
All you have to do (if this is the case) is to (from the directory
containing zImage):
mv zImage /boot/vmlinuz
lilo
then reboot to see if it works
This renames zImage to vmlinuz and puts it in the correct directory at
the same time.
--
David Hallowell - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
UKUUG Linux '99 Conference 25-26th June 1999
Info and bookings: http://www.linux.ukuug.org/linux99/
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From: Peter Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: remote logins
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:42:50 +0200
We have a mixed network with multiple Linux servers and we would very
much like to enable remote root logins as we do with our SPARCs.
Unfortunately, it does not seem to be as straightforward as with SunOS
(etc/system).
How can we enable root rlogins and telnet sessions on our RedHat 5.x and
6.x servers. We use 2.0.36 and 2.2.9 kernels.
Sincerely,
Peter CARON
Oracle Deutschland GmbH.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Recompiling my kernel
Date: 6 Jun 1999 07:42:09 GMT
On Fri, 28 May 1999 19:36:46 +0000,
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> BTW, copying a kernel staright onto a floppy probably will not work. You
> may have to run LILO from a command line before rebooting. I know I have
> to when installing a new kernel in the /boot directory on my HD. (I'm
> running SuSE 6.0 and kernel 2.2.8)
Actually, copying a kernel to a floppy works great, with no need for
LILO. :)
dd if=zImage of=/dev/fd0
Magic.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Joe Pelkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Questions about volume and file status
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:34:41 -0400
Hi, I was wondering how to change the volume of my Sound Blaster.
Also, I was wondering ho to view the status of files. I used 'ls -l',
but it doesn't tell me the octal representation of permissions. Also,
what are the attributes sticky bit, "save program text to swap device",
and "set user or group ID on execution"?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP: 2.2.* kernel boot fails after I've recompiled
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 10:09:04 GMT
Hello here,
I've been trying to recompile and re-install the 2.2.*
versions of the kernel 3 times, but have encountered
the same & following problem every time:
The compilation completed properly, but when I re-booted
my PC I got a funny behaviour. I got the following lines
at prompt when trying to boot:
> LILO boot: linux
> Loading linux .........
> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
and then it got stuck here and no more progressed (I
even tried once to leave it here for hours to see whether
it would go on, slowly, but it didn't: it's completely
interrupted). Moreover, nothing no more responds, I have
no more keyboard (a Ctrl-Alt-Delete to restart my PC
doesn't repond), and I must switch off my PC. To recover,
I boot again with my old 2.0.35 diskette.
I have Red Hat 5.2, on a PC with an AMD 350Mhz, and here
are the commands thru which I carry out my compilations:
1- make xconfig
2- make dep
3- make clean
4- make zlilo
5- cd /boot
6- mv ../vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.2.8
7- (modification of the /etc/lilo.conf)
8- lilo
And this worked without any problem as long as I did it with
the 2.0.35 version. I can't seem to be able to complete this
upgrade to the 2.2.8 version !
Could anyone help me, please ?? What do I miss ? Do I do
anything wrong ??
Thanks a lot !!
Seb
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