Linux-Misc Digest #658, Volume #19 Tue, 30 Mar 99 11:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: So, there's not going to be a RealPlayer G2 for Linux... :((( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Elf Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Problem with gcc install (Humphrey Zhang)
Re: Kernel panic: VFS (Humphrey Zhang)
Re: /etc/hosts.deny syntax differs from man pages ? (Chris J/#6)
Re: good linux books? ("Stephen Vear")
Re: Where can I download Linux as one compressed file? (David Dineen)
Re: An SNMP Question... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (sandrews)
Re: FrameBuffer Questions! (Fluor)
Re: Comparable computer LINUX set up instead of iMac (Brian McCauley)
LILO does not activate partition (Ciprian Toader)
Re: Boot messages (Nathan Cuka)
Re: top on telnet (Walter Strong)
Groupware on Linux ... ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Practical Linux Programs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So, there's not going to be a RealPlayer G2 for Linux... :(((
Date: 30 Mar 1999 14:07:46 GMT
In his obvious haste, Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: I just got this from Real Networks support :(
: (...)
: >Is there going to be a G2 Player for Linux (glibc2)? I'm thinking of
: purchasing
: >Real Player Plus, but I won't unless a G2 version is being developed.
: There have
: >been rumors that the UNIX player development has been dropped.
More typical stupidity.
There goes one hell of a lot of sound files on the internet.
(which is SUPPOSED to be platform independent....)
*sigh*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Elf Linux
Date: 30 Mar 1999 14:09:36 GMT
In his obvious haste, y. wei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Hi,
: Any idea how to get a copy of Elf Linux?
ELF?
That's just a standard.
All the latest Linux distros are ELF compliant.
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From: Humphrey Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with gcc install
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:22:05 -0500
gcc-2.7.2 came with Slackware 3.6 is being used on my 486. Now I got
gcc-2.8.1,
compilation couldn't pass the first step. The command "make LANGUAGE=c"
was
not carried through but aborted with the following message:
cpp: Usage: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/cpp [switches] input
output
make: *** [libgcc1.a] Error 1
Can someone help?
Jun
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From: Humphrey Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Kernel panic: VFS
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:54:21 -0500
Make sure the file system associated with root space is compiled into the
kernel,
not as a module.
Jun
Bruno Barberi Gnecco wrote:
> I just got kernel 2.2.4, compiled and booted it. After some normal
> output, the following message showed:
>
> request_module[block-major-3]. Root fs not mounted
> VFS: Cannot open root device 03:03
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03
>
> It seems to me that the 3 came from my linux partition (/dev/hda3). Looking
> the list of things to be updated, I found nothing related to fs (except for
> things I don't use, as NFS). Any clues?
>
> --
> Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
> Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #1383173 - PGP 5.0i user
> [I'm running Linux] -=-=- Electric Engineering at Politechnic School, USP
> http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/ * Check for C, 3D graphics, etc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts.deny syntax differs from man pages ?
Date: 29 Mar 1999 19:13:06 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can do away with hosts.deny totally, as the extended options also have
ALLOW and DENY keywords, for use in hosts.allow...for example, I have no
hosts.deny, and instead have in hosts.allow...:
in.ntalkd: ALL: rfc931 5: ALLOW
in.talkd: ALL: rfc931 5: ALLOW
tcp-env: LOCAL: setenv RELAYCLIENT: ALLOW
tcp-env: .cej.net: setenv RELAYCLIENT: ALLOW
tcp-env: .madhouse: setenv RELAYCLIENT: ALLOW
tcp-env: PARANOID: rfc931 5: spawn (/etc/access/bin/paranoid_log %a %h %u %d &): ALLOW
ALL: PARANOID: rfc931 5: banners /etc/access/dns: spawn (/etc/access/bin/paranoid_log
%a %h %u %d &): DENY
in.fingerd: ALL: rfc931 5: spawn (/etc/access/bin/fingalert): banners
/etc/access/allowed: ALLOW
tcp-env: ALL: rfc931 5: ALLOW
ALL: LOCAL: banners /etc/access/allowed: ALLOW
ALL: 192.168.1.: banners /etc/access/allowed: ALLOW
ALL: .madhouse: banners /etc/access/allowed: ALLOW
ALL:ALL:rfc931 10: banners /etc/access/denied: spawn (/etc/access/bin/deny_log %a %h
%u %d &): DENY
As this is rules based, and rules at the top have high precedence than those
lower down, you can place all your rules in precedence order, and the last line
can be a blanket DENY for any other attempt. I prefer this much more to
seperate hosts.allow and hosts.deny - one file to manage, without any loss
of flexibility.
Banners are good fun as well, as you can create connection messages for each
service that uses tcp_wrappers, whether they are a valid connection or not.
Chris...
Patrick Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I had similar problems. I'm not sure why that doesn't work, but there are
>some better options to use (man hosts_options).
>
>I have the following in my /etc/hosts.deny:
>
>in.telnetd: ALL : twist echo "** Sorry, this is a private system. **"
>
>The "twist" commands passes the connection on to whatever program you want.
>In my case, I just have it "echo" a saying to the user.
>
>I also found this to work:
>
>in.telnetd: ALL : spawn (/usr/bin/finger -l @%h | /bin/mail -s %d-%h
>[EMAIL PROTECTED])&
>
>Let me know if it works out...
>
>Patrick
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From: "Stephen Vear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: good linux books?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:19:41 +0200
Well I'm pretty new to Linux, and for the record I have bought 'Red Hat
Linux Unleashed' but not yet got into it enough to be able to recommend it
to anyone. I agree that everything is online, but I like to have some books
to refer to first (and I'm not always online when researching a solution,
sometimes I'm sat on the sofa)
I am fairly experienced in other Unix systems, however, and can definitely
recommend some books there :
O'Reillys 'Unix Power Tools' is the book I always end up referring to
first - it does assume some basic knowledge, but has lots of tricks and also
a nice readable style. Like many a Unix person, I have a load of O'Reilly
books on my shelves. Usually a good bet. Don't be misled by the 'In a
Nutshell' books - these aren't for casual users, but are a very concise
reference. 'Essential System Administration' by Aelleen Frisch (I think)
is also pretty good - I have the first edition, but I see that it has
expanded somewhat in later editions.
I have also bought the 2-volume Unix Unleashed from SAMS which has proved
useful several times.
Definitely not recommended to other Unix people (and wouldn't be interesting
to Linux people anyway) is 'The HP-UX System Administrator's How-To Guide'.
Admittedly there have been new versions since the one I bought so it may
have improved, but I found that I had to refer to my other books all the
time.
Stephen Vear
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Dineen)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Where can I download Linux as one compressed file?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:47:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:43:36 GMT, "Danny Johnson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> muttered:
>David Dineen wrote in message
>>In Ireland we get billed per
>>minute for local/Internet calls
>
>You get billed by the phone company or by your ISP? If by the Telco (or
>govt), how was that enacted? There has been talk of doing that here in the
>US, and I'd like to know what rhetoric they used.
Basically they didn't. Telecom �ireann was the only phone company in
existence in Ireland until a short while ago. It was a semi state
company and had a monopoly supported by the government. However, due
to EU competition laws it lost its monopoly last December.
Internet calls were charged at the standard local call rate (12p for 3
minutes - that's about 17 cents). In the past few months T� has been
gradually reducing Internet rates. There is now a special area code
for ISP numbers, so Internet calls are now a separate heading on the
phone bill. They were reduced to 12p for 5 minutes and they'll
probably be reduced further.
Since the advent of competition, 17 other companies now have licenses
but can only really compete at the specialised/high volume area of the
market as T� own most of the infrastructure.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.lunix.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: An SNMP Question...
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:47:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I run a few Linux webservers and I would like to start using MRTG to
> track the network traffic on my aliased ethernet interfaces, but I have
> NO IDEA (beyond "I know it CAN be done") how to setup the snmpd.* config
> files to tell the system to "collect the data" and then "give it to
> MRTG".
> ANY help on this (point me someplace or tell me direct) would be of
> great assistance
This: http://break.org/tommy/linux/mrtg/ worked for me! (-:
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:53:17 -0500
From: sandrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
"Alexander I. Butenko" wrote:
>
> John Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > vaclav vyvoda wrote in message ...
> > >..and thank you for the typical MS PR BS..
> >
> > Well..., he started out telling the truth...
> > >
> > >On Alexander I. Butenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >: ANyway I greatly doubt that Linux will be easier to use than NT Server.
> > I'm
> >
> >
> > It IS easier to get an NT box running and doing common tasks.
> >
> > Getting it running RIGHT, without BSOD's and other annoyances, is often
> > another kettle of fish, especially when bringing more services online that
> > just what comes in the NT package.
> >
> > The sad fact, STILL, is that Linux is a pain in the ass to install and
> > configure unless you know what you're doing.
> > And THAT fact is what is keeping Linux from making inroads into markets
> like
> > small business and home networks.
> >
> > That said, there are a few products available that shield the user from
> most
> > of this complexity. The Cobalt Qube and Corel Netwinder are two examples
> of
> > how it SHOULD be. Maybe its too much to expect from the Linux development
> > community, and we'll just have to rely on profiteers who understand the
> > needs and wants of the marketplace better.
> >
> > >: sure that NT Server will be a ideal use for a small home network,
> becaus
> > >: eit's very easy to configure comparable to Linux and supports most
> > network
> > >: clients better.
> >
> >
> > Rubbish. NT is expensive in itself. It demands more expensive hardware to
> > deliver an equal level of performance. What network clients does Linux not
> > support?
> >
>
> I;m not discussing the price but the complexity of the Setup.
>
> Also cna you say that Unix SAMBA works as good with Windows clients as teh
> Native NT Server?
>
> How about Macintosh clients?
> >
Yes, Samba makes a better windows server than nt server himself, when
you connect
more than 25 to 30 users.....It is up to 250% faster than nt if your
using samba
on RedHat linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fluor)
Subject: Re: FrameBuffer Questions!
Date: 29 Mar 1999 18:17:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : The first one: Why does catting a long file with FrameBuffer consoles take
> : up 100% CPU time, and what to do about it? This is really really annoying.
>Because it has to scroll the whole screen.
>Try adding video=vesa:ywarp to your kernel parameters
>(or video=vesa:ypan if your card does not support ywrap)
>It will be still slow, though... using less colours helps.
I already added video=vesa:ywarp to my kernel parameters..
Does this mean my card does not support ywarp??
>You don't. Once you booted into framebuffer display, the mode cannot be
>changed.
Yeah, but isn't there a vesa-videomode number to set the card in
1024x786x16bpp@80hz? How does Windows do it? Or isn't that a VESA mode?
>The only way seems to be to set resolution and refreshrate under msdos (with
>some msdos program) and then boot linux with loadlin.
I don't do loadlin, I use LILO :]
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comparable computer LINUX set up instead of iMac
Date: 29 Mar 1999 18:48:59 +0100
Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. What would be an example of a comparable computer LINUX set up that
> could be configured instead of buying an iMac ?
The Corel Netwinder (as found on the cover of April's LJ).
> 2. Exactly what manufacturers components could be used?
I don't understand the question. If you are thinking of building such
a machine yourself from scratch then just about any components could
be used.
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From: Ciprian Toader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO does not activate partition
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 23:14:30 +1200
Hi,
I'm having problems making lilo set the active flag of a partition (at
boot time).
I have the following configuration:
- LILO installed in the MBR of /dev/hda
- /dev/hda1 contains Unixware (vxfs)
- /dev/hda2 contains NT (ntfs)
- /dev/hda3 contains Win98 (fat32)
- /dev/hda4 is an extended partition with
- /dev/hda5 : fat32
- /dev/hda6 : Linux / (ext2fs)
- /dev/hda7 : Linux /usr (ext2fs)
- /dev/hda8 : Linux /usr/local (ext2fs)
- /dev/hda9 : Linux /home (ext2fs)
- /dev/hda10 : Linux swap
... and this is my /etc/lilo.conf:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
other=/dev/hda3
label=win98
table=/dev/hda
change
partition=/dev/hda3
activate
partition=/dev/hda1
deactivate
partition=/dev/hda2
deactivate
other=/dev/hda2
label=nt
table=/dev/hda
change
partition=/dev/hda2
activate
partition=/dev/hda1
deactivate
partition=/dev/hda3
deactivate
other=/dev/hda1
label=unixware
table=/dev/hda
change
partition=/dev/hda1
activate
partition=/dev/hda2
deactivate
partition=/dev/hda3
deactivate
The reason for the activate/deactivate instructions present in lilo.conf
is that Unixware, NT and Win98 need to have their partition active in
order to function properly. Unfortunately, it does not work. The
active partition does not change!
I'm using Lilo 0.20, compiled with REWRITE_TABLE variable enabled.
Thanks in advance
Ciprian
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From: Nathan Cuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot messages
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:07:09 -0600
Aaron Ginn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Red Hat 5.2 over the weekend on my new Pentium II.
> After a few minor headaches, the install went relatively well; I'm now
> dual booting Win98 and Linux. During boot, I get messages stating that
> some of my disk partitions are not cleanly unmounted. Should I be
> concerned with this, and is there anything I need to do to address the
> problem?
This is normal the very first time you boot up the machine after an install.
However, if this is happening every single time that you boot linux, then
what is probably happening is that you are flipping the power switch to
turn of the machine without shutting down linux first. You need to make
sure that you shutdown the computer with the shutdown command
(e.g. shutdown -h now) rather than just flipping the switch off.
> Also, are the messages at boot time written to a logfile
> somewhere?
If you type dmesg this will list most of the boot-time log messages.
Check out the /var directory for other log messages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: top on telnet
Date: 29 Mar 1999 19:14:27 GMT
Danny Aldham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
: I am running top on a rh5.2 box over a telnet session. I only
: get the top 4 or 5 lines displayed. Any ideas?
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Try this:
echo $TERM
That will tell you what kind of terminal you're in. If it's a 'dumb'
terminal then it will only diplay a snapshot of the header info that
top provides.
How to get into a smart terminal? Try:
TERM=vt100
Although I'm not familiar enough with RH to know if that will work.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Groupware on Linux ... ?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:51:03 GMT
I need some help!
I'm into my third week with a North Sioux City, South Dakota-based company and
I'm in charge of the Intra/Internet structure and services.
One of the things I've been asked to clean up/construct is the corporate
e-mail system. There is a strong corporate preference for Lotus Notes. I'm
not in favor of this for any number of reasons, chief among them is that I'm
going to have to learn a proprietary set of tools that run on NT.
I've already wormed a Red Hat box into the organization for my network
monitoring tools, and have a triple-boot P-III box for everyday work (Red
Hat, DR-DOS, NT). I would LIKE to put a functioning mail/groupware server on
a Linux box, bring it to my brass, and say something like, "Well, we COULD
bring in Lotus Notes ... but we already have this functioning,
standards-based, open- source alternative in place. Here, let me show it to
you."
My thought is that a working demonstration is probably worth more than a
promise of a proprietary installation several weeks off. I don't know that it
would be enough to overcome Management's preferences, but it's worth a shot.
Anyway, my problem is this:
I can set up a POP/IMAP/SMTP server any day of the week. An NNTP server for
shared discussions is a cinch. Web pages with our corporate e-mail is no
problem.
The killer is that I can't find an attractive alternative to some of the group
conferencing and scheduling that Notes offers. There are some CGI scripts out
there that will do nice things, but their interfaces uniformly SUCK, and I'm
not sure I have time to clean up the HTML they're generating.
Does anyone know of a solution that I can implement quickly, preferably that
uses the Web browser as the interface?
Help!
I'd appreciate useful responses be also CCd to my e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so as to more quickly come to my attention.
Thanks in advance.
Bill Stone
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Practical Linux Programs
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:19:59 GMT
Try www.linuxapps.com and look under Business, System.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, i'm using linux but now i need some programs like an invoice program
>
> to generate invoices and print them for my business. Any ideas??
>
> I have Star (runs very slow) but do not find anything there. Dan
>
>
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