Linux-Misc Digest #658, Volume #24 Tue, 30 May 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Fatal LILO error--conflicting versions? (David Efflandt)
Re: Onebox.com sound file problems (Shekar)
Re: how do I point netscape aPOP3 server? (David Efflandt)
Re: Diskdruid kills other HDs? (MH)
Re: mounting ide-scsi device (John)
Re: Icreasing Apache URI buffer? (David Efflandt)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (brian moore)
Re: Mounting Linux partition under Windows (BuDMaN)
Re: Netscape Bookmarks/Offline newsreader? (Steve)
Re: PNG to GIF (Steve)
Re: What is Enlightenment? (Steve)
Re: mounting ide-scsi device (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Where did that Zany Tarred File Go? ("Lonni J. Friedman")
Re: How to use groups (Akira Yamanita)
Corel Linux and Printing (Paul Clay)
GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (Don Saklad)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Fatal LILO error--conflicting versions?
Date: 31 May 2000 01:28:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 30 May 2000 22:04:22 GMT, Geoff Stanbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi. I originally had LILO installed on the MBR of /dev/hda. The
>version of LILO that I was using came with Slackware 7.0, which is
>installed on /dev/hda2 through hda4. Everything worked fine.
>
>I'm now trying to use a slightly different version of LILO which is
>part of a different linux system that is located on /dev/hdb1. When I
>run LILO from there, I get the following error:
>
>"Fatal: First boot sector is version 20.0. Expecting version 21.4."
>
>I booted to win95 and ran "fdisk /mbr," but that didn't change the
>problem.
>
>/dev/hda's LILO is version 21; /dev/hdb's version is 21.4-3.
When using very different Linux versions (or FreeBSD) I would suggest
chaining the LILO's or boot loaders together. In other words put LILO for
hdb1 on hdb1 and point to it as other, just like for windows, from the
Slackware LILO in the MBR. Or if you now have Geo-Linux in the MBR,
you could boot to Slackware per my lilo.conf modification below and put
its LILO on /dev/hda2.
I have done this with RH 5.2, RH 6.1, FreeBSD and Mandrake 7. In fact I
no longer have LILO in the MBR, I have it on an active boot partition so
I don't have to worry about Windows stepping on it.
I also had no trouble earlier using the same lilo to boot Slackware 95
(3.0?) and RH 5.0 as per suggestions below (mounting the other file
system first to point to its vmlinuz):
>Here is my lilo.conf for the /dev/hdb LILO: (The lilo.conf for
>/dev/hda is identical, except the Slackware section is not commented
>out.)
># LILO configuration file
># generated by 'liloconfig'
>#
># Start LILO global section
>boot = /dev/hda
>#compact # faster, but won't work on all systems.
>delay = 50
># Normal VGA console
>vga = normal
># DOS bootable partition config begins
>other = /dev/hda1
> label = dos
> table = /dev/hda
># DOS bootable partition config ends
># Slackware bootable partition config begins
>#image = /vmlinuz
># root = /dev/hda3
># label = lin
># read-only
># Slackware bootable partition config ends
# NOTE: Mount Slackware / somewhere on Geo-Linux like /mnt/slack
# If /boot is a partition, mount it instead and omit /boot from following
image = /mnt/slack/boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/hda3
label = lin
read-only
# Slackware bootable partition config ends
># Geo-Linux bootable partition config begins
>image = /geolinuz
> root = /dev/hdb1
> label = geo
> read-only
># Geo-Linux bootable partition config ends
LILO keeps track of the actual disk location of the images, so this will
work even though Slackware is not nounted on /mnt/slack during boot. Or
at least it worked for me in the past.
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From: Shekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Onebox.com sound file problems
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:30:04 GMT
Oh, Boy! I never even heard of these players you mentioned as having
tried to play the Onebox's messages:
kmp3player, kplayaudio, esdplay, play (sox?), rplay,
realplay, wavplay, bob, several amp players
What ever has happened to the popular players? Have you tried WinAmp? It
has been the most favorite player for Windows and now with so many
unbelievable plugins and unimaginable skins. WinAmp is just as great as
Onebox !! It can play 98% of the file formats including Real audio
formats and Real Video files (download the plug-ins). And WinAmp is as
free as Onebox. You would do well to dump all those players and the
RealPlayer in the Recycle-bin just as I had dumped it (including the
popular - and now slow - "Hotmail") as they have not reached a stage where
they could offer their products for free. In fact, the innocent drill-
down clicks we make on their sites pay them unreasonably and over and
above that they charge us for their products, Internet access... They
display Privacy Policy but they also play so many desparate games - gather
our personal info and submit them to porno-sites, gambling sites...!!
Go for the top-rated tools like the ones rated by CNet, ZDNet... instead
of trying unknown ones (these don't even uninstall properly). Tried the
great WorldSpy (no-nags, just-free), MyPlay (3 GB instant MP3-space for
furnishing just one piece of info - your mail ID to identify you),
Crosswinds (unlimited web-space), Instant Rendezvous, Photopoint
(unlimited on-line albums), yet?? Well! All these are sites are FREE/NO-
Ads sites like Onebox. Onebox gives 3 MB free space and 25 MB for $4.95 a
month with 2-month free-trial - still as good as FREE!
Bev wrote:
>
> There's a slick free voicemail/fax/email service provided by
> http://www.onebox.com which would be perfect if linux-users could hear
> the phone messages via computer instead of logging off and using the
> REAL phone. (Once again, windows users get full service!) The
> messages are saved as some sort of exotic variant of .wav or .aif
> files, and can be downloaded. The problem is finding a sound player
> that works with them. I've tried a mess of different players, and the
> best I've been able to get is a burst of static. Their customer
> service has thus far been no help, but the turnaround time is 12
> hours.
>
> For those of us who are too cheap to put in a second phone line,
> onebox is really handy. It's good enough to be able to see the phone
> number that left a message, and you can always retrieve your messages
> with your real phone, but it would be SO nice to be just as good as
> winshit people for a change :-)
>
> So far I've tried kmp3player, kplayaudio, esdplay, play (sox?), rplay,
> realplay, wavplay, bob, several amp players, and catting to
> /dsp/audio. Any sound experts here?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> The Marketing Professional's Motto: "We don't screw the customers.
> All
> we're doing is holding them down while the salespeople screw them."
> -- Scott
> Adams
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http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: how do I point netscape aPOP3 server?
Date: 31 May 2000 01:34:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 May 2000 23:51:02 GMT, Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an IP address for our POP3 mail server and I'd like to learn how
>to use Netscape for reading mail and Newsgroups, how can I set it
>up so I can send and receive email?
Edit, Preferences, Mail and Newsgroups. Set your Identity and under Mail
Servers add a pop server with the IP address (if it does not have a name).
You might want to delete the default "pop" server. Fill in the Outgoing
(SMTP) server (at your ISP if local mail is not working), and away you go.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diskdruid kills other HDs?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:38:52 -0700
Peet wrote:
>
> I am using diskdruid during install (Mandrake 6.5 or RH6.0) to install
> Linux on a second hard drive (slave /deb/hdb). I have Win98 already on
> /dev/hda (vfat) which diskruid recognizes and displays in it's menu.
>
> After setting up all partitions for Linux on /dev/hdb will diskdruid
> reformat also the master hard drive vfat (/dev/hda) and destroy all data
> i.e. Win98 ?
>
> If so, how can I install Linux on a slave drive without affecting the
> master drive?
>
> Thanks,
> Peet
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Make sure you back up anything you don't want to lose, just in case. I
recently used diskdruid to repartition sda and it corrupted the
partition table on sdb. Would have lost everything if it hadn't been
for a backup. Unfortunately, the backup was way out of date so I did
lose some data--but it could have been much worse.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John)
Subject: Re: mounting ide-scsi device
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:41:27 GMT
On Wed, 31 May 2000 07:43:31 +0930, PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Flemming Bjerke wrote:
>>
>> John wrote:
>>
>> > I am trying to mount my ide CD-RW. X-Roast is able to use it through
>> > mkisofs and cdrecord. When I type mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom it gives
>> > me the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe
>> > 'insmod driver'?)
>> >
>> > I have scsi emulation support enabled under block devices in kernel
>> > configuation and ide/atapi cdrom support disable (this is for X-Roast)
>> >
>> > Under Scsi support I have enabled :
>> > SCSI support, SCSI disk, SCSI CD-ROM support, vendor-specific
>> > extensions, SCSI generic support.
>> >
>> > Under filesystems I have sio 9660 support as a module.
>> >
>> > There was another method I tried and got wrong major or minor number
>> >
>> > How do i mount my CD-RW.
>> >
>> > Thank you
>>
>> I am about solve similar problems, but I suceeded mounting a CD in the
>> CD-RW, after having insmod the module for my SCSI controller. This is
>> quite easy: You find the module in: /lib/modules/2.214-5.0/scsi/
>> (depending on Your kernel no.). If there is a module corresponding to
>> Your SCSI controller, You can just
>> insmod <your controller module>
>> Then You can mount Your CD-RW, if it is one which is supported by Linux.
>> But, You have to do this each time You boot. I don't know if You have
>> tried this. It must be a way finding out whether You can mount Your
>> CD-RW. I have not yet tried to integrate this module in functioning of
>> the kernel, but if You can do it by insmod, it should be possible to
>> integrate it in the kernel functioning. Alternatively, it You can make a
>> small script with insmod and make a call when booting (not very elegant).
>>
>> Flemming
>
>I got it to load the needed modules by lsmod after trying to mount the
>CD to find what was being loaded.
>Then putting an entry in /lib/modules/2.2.15/modules.dep to make one of
>these modules depend on one of the others which was not being
>automatically loaded.
>
>PoD.
Thank you for your reply;
The problem is that I don't know what modules to install. I have
taken you suggestion and did a lsmod and found that no scsi drivers
where installed on boot. I then insmod ide-scsi.o and tried to mount
it, no success. Then I insmod sg.o and that didn't work either.
When I type mount /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom I get :
mount: /dev/sga is not a block device.
When I type mount -t iso9660 /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom I get:
mount: /dev/sg0 has wrong major or minor number
Please help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Icreasing Apache URI buffer?
Date: 31 May 2000 01:45:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 31 May 2000, John Jacques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello, cuurently our web server allows for up to 7,400 characters to be
>submitted with a GET method. beyond this, the server responds with an
>error page that the URI is too long because the URL contains more
>characters then the server can handle.
Some browsers may truncate this at way less than that anyway. You should
probably be using POST method if you need to pass large amounts of data or
file upload.
>How can I increase this to any size I choose? I do not want to use the
>PUT method.
See the LimitRequest directives. Doesn't your apache come with docs?
>Thanks
>John Jacques
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 31 May 2000 01:46:52 GMT
On 30 May 2000 16:27:33 -0700,
bb@bb <bb@bb> wrote:
> In article <8h0lk5$b9b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >b) Bridges cost *money*, not just time.
>
> I guess then it is true what they say about linux. it is free for those
> whose time is worthless.
Linux isn't a bridge last I checked.
Never mind that 'free' in Linux isn't about "zero price", it's about
"freedom".
> Time is money. Are you so worthless that your time is worth nothing?
My time is worth plenty, which is why I'm glad I don't waste it
rebooting or reinstalling or fighting DLL's....
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: BuDMaN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting Linux partition under Windows
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:40:10 GMT
In article <GxXY4.133235$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <8h0uq3$jqf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> BuDMaN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I know I can mount Windows partition on Linux using VFAT filesystem but
> > I want to do the opposite now. How can I do that? I want to mount it on
> > the same machine so I guess I can't use Samba for that, right?
>
> As others have said, Explore2fs
> (http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm) lets you
> transfer files, but it's not really transparent. The closest you'll come
> to transparent access is from fsdext2 (http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/)
> for Win9x. It's presently read-only, though. If you use VMware to run
> Windows under Linux, you can also use Samba and Windows networking to
> mount Linux partitions for read-write access from the VMware-run version
> of Windows.
What is exactly VMware? Is it like Wine?
--
BuDMaN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Netscape Bookmarks/Offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 May 2000 01:05:41 GMT
I use slrn and slrnpull to get the news, it doesn't take
much setting up. If you need any help feel free to mail
me.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
11:16pm up 5 days, 10:10, 1 user, load average: 2.00, 2.10, 2.09
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: PNG to GIF
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 May 2000 01:05:51 GMT
On Tue, 30 May 2000 20:11:30 +0200, Penpal International wrote:
>Hi!
>
>For some while I've made graphs in PNG-format with GD. But now I want to
>publish some of theme on the internet, but most browsers don't support
>PNG yet. I also can't create GIF files, because that function was
>disabled on ALL libraries, apps, etc, etc because of someone has a
>patent on it. Now I try to find an app for linux which can convert PNG
>to GIF. Does anyone knows something which can do this?
ImageMagick can do it.
GIF+ CompuServe graphics interchange format; 8-bit color.
GIF87+ CompuServe graphics interchange format; 8-bit color (version 87a).
Don't know where I got it from but there's a link to it somewhere on the
povray links page http://www.povray.org/links/ search for ImageMagick.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
11:16pm up 5 days, 10:10, 1 user, load average: 2.00, 2.10, 2.09
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: What is Enlightenment?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 May 2000 01:05:46 GMT
Enlightenment is a journey which is different for every man
only you will know when you have found it.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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or http://start.at/zero-pps
11:16pm up 5 days, 10:10, 1 user, load average: 2.00, 2.10, 2.09
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Subject: Re: mounting ide-scsi device
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:56:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John) writes:
<snip>
> Thank you for your reply;
>
> The problem is that I don't know what modules to install. I have
> taken you suggestion and did a lsmod and found that no scsi drivers
> where installed on boot. I then insmod ide-scsi.o and tried to mount
> it, no success. Then I insmod sg.o and that didn't work either.
> When I type mount /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom I get :
> mount: /dev/sga is not a block device.
>
> When I type mount -t iso9660 /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom I get:
> mount: /dev/sg0 has wrong major or minor number
>
> Please help.
Did you add the following line to your /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo?
append="hd?=ide-scsi"
--
Prasanth Kumar
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where did that Zany Tarred File Go?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:14:02 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hey all. a quickie:
> thanks to help from this nwgrp, i tarred and feathered the Netscape 6
> beta with the tar xzvf filename.tar.gz command. but, where, oh where can
> Netscape 6, the executable be?
> thanx in advance.
try "which netscape"
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use groups
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 02:01:33 GMT
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
> My system admin experience is mostly with NetWare, so my concept of
> groups is rather different than for unix/linux. Unix/linux groups seem
> somewhat more limited than NetWare ones, in which users are in multiple
> groups simultaneously.
>
> I've read the info pages for the groups and chgrp commands, and I've
> read the Security HOWTO. None of them address the use of groups in
> great detail. Most annoyingly, there are references to 'supplemental
> groups' with no references for additional information.
>
> Are there documents available on the web or via anonymous ftp that
> delve into the subject of using groups in unix/linux, especially any
> comparing unix/linux groups to group mechanisms under different OSs?
>
> Thanks.
Unix and similar systems don't use access control lists. Try a search
on http://google.com/linux for ACL and "access control list". There
are some available extensions to support the use of ACLs.
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:02:46 -0700
From: Paul Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corel Linux and Printing
I can't seem to get corel linux to print. All the parport modules seem
to be loaded but, no luck. E.g., when I try to print from Netscape I
get the error message "Connection refused, jobs queued, but cannot start
printer daemon."
What's up?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Saklad)
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Date: 30 May 2000 22:06:52 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How could our urban public library city of Boston public
library departments be persuaded to use GNU/LINUX ?...
http://www.bpl.org/WWW/trustees31400.html
On the technology front, the President reported that
implementation of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
grant is moving along very well, including the cost of
acquisition of 158 new computers, 27 new printers and
accompanying workstation furniture, with the exception of
the installation of the electronics to get them online.
http://www.bpl.org/WWW/trustees31400.html
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