Linux-Misc Digest #658, Volume #27               Fri, 20 Apr 01 06:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Hello,there. ("somez72")
  Re: Mirroring a disk ("Michael Faurot")
  Re: Netscape 4.77  *after*  Netscape 6.01 ?! (paranormalized)
  Re: Help! Extended partition with no logical partitions ("Eric")
  Re: disk geometry problem ... RH 7.1 anaconda ("Eric")
  Re: Argh, Linux 2.4.0 does not boot! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: getty replacement? ("John W. Krahn")
  ide raid card ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
  SBLive Problems... (MegaSurge)
  Re: Help with LT modem (Michael McConnell)
  ecc or ecc+reg ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
  Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Ian Davey)
  OT? Is OS-X THE userfriendly Unix? (Reiner Griess)
  Re: ES688 AudioDrive (non plug and play) ("muzh")
  Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist? (Malcolm Beattie)

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From: "somez72" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hello,there.
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:13:31 -0700

Hello,
does Someone knows is there System Monitoring and System Management tools
that is running on Linux for Linux/Unix server , Oracle server , Web server
, and so on.

Where can I find it?
any information is good to me, please tell me.

I don't know where should I wirte down this kind of question.
is there good place to ask this question , please let me know.

Thank you for your time.
-- SH Lee --





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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mirroring a disk
Date: 20 Apr 2001 05:21:02 GMT

Simon Frohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: I am looking for a tool / manual to  "low-level" copy
: the first disk to the second.
[...]
: I guess, if both disk are exactly of the same type I
: simply could do something like dd if=sda of=sdb ?

That would work.  Although you'll probably want to specify a block size
to get better throughput for the operation.  For example:

        dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024k

: Does anyone know something more flexible then dd?

All you need to do is move the bytes from disk-a to disk-b--that's
exactly what dd is for.

-- 
==============================================================================
 Michael | mfaurot  | There is no royal road to geometry.
 Faurot  | atww.net |           -- Euclid

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From: paranormalized <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.77  *after*  Netscape 6.01 ?!
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:36:07 GMT

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:43:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:53:35 GMT, paranormalized
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:17:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck) wrote:
>
>> On really large .jpgs, if you scroll up and down sometimes it'll make
>> the parts that you scrolled off-screen turn into this mess of black
>> and white static.
>
>I'll have to try that.  Got an example URL?  You might want to enter a
>bug report in any case.
>
Umm, for which version?  6.0, I assume, since we're talking Mozilla
codebase, right?  And windows is the platform in question, no?  I have
a few images onhand that cause the problem, but don't websurf enough
to have a URL... wait, lemme check a place...

Well, I don't know of anyplace that carries big enough .jpg files
right offhand, as Mark Neidengard's image archives (anime stuff) are
currently down, and that's the only site I have bookmarked that has
large .jpg's.  Yeah, yeah, I know.  I oughta look at more porn, I
know... but I just don't have the time!  ;)

OTOH, it has a similar problem when loading backgrounds for *some*
sites.  As in, the background gets these weird black stripes on it,
then it goes away once enough of the site has loaded or something.  I
just experienced that problem now when trying to look at the list of
series image galleries at www.anipike.com   

*snip more modem info*
>In fact, the so-called "gaming modems" are often a real modem, just
>like we had in the days before Winmodems.  They'll generally work fine
>under Linux without a special driver.  Funny how what used to be
>standard has become the special high-performance version.
>
>There are also some things you can do to any modem to reduce latency at
>the expense of throughput.  For instance, you can turn off compression
>and use a smaller block size for error correction.
>
Thanks for the info!  I'll keep those points in mind if I have to get
a modem, as I said below, and get a regular external modem now,
probably.

>
>> Well, if I'm really lucky I'll go Broadband in the next couple months,
>> and skip the whole need for a modem of any kind...
>
>That'd be cool.  One of these days they might get to me...

And broadband the only way that you can keep up w/ some of the
binaries groups, like alt.binaries.anime and such...  I'm hoping to
become the Usenet anime aquisitioner for an anime club in the area I'm
moving too, but as I said, you *need* broadband to keep up with those
sites...


Jonathan Fisher
======
Paranormalized man, Supernaturalized citizen, and Sub-normalized otaku....

To email, change proprietary to free, org to com.

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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Extended partition with no logical partitions
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:40:28 +0200

> While I was changing around my partition setup during installation of SuSE
> 7.1 under YaST, I started getting errors during the write process to the
> partition table.  This got really confusing and I finally took a look at

That's bad news

> it with fips and fdisk.  It appears that my whole disk looks like this:
>
> Partition 1: primary DOS partition
> Partition 2: Extended partition


Use linux fdisk.
DOS doesn't know about linux partitions.

> with no logical partitions in the extended partition!

linux fdisk doesn't show them either?
try `/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hda`

> This is very unfortunate because I don't seem to be able to delete the
> extended partition without "deleting all the logical partitions" inside,
> but there ARE no recognized logical partitions to delete.  I tried adding
> a logical partition to delete, but fdisk somehow thinks my whole disk is
> filled up by these two partitions, so there's no room to add anything.

Definitately not linux fdisk.

> Does anyone have any ideas?  I don't want to reformat the whole disk
> because I really don't want to go through the trouble of replacing what's
> on the DOS partition.  My estimation of SuSE has dropped a
> notch...

Perhaps, but that's not blocking you from deleting anything in the extended
partition. That's DOS FDISK limited knowledge on other OS's

Eric



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disk geometry problem ... RH 7.1 anaconda
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:32:39 +0200

> Thanks for the reply. Actually, I did try that, but it doesn't seem to
> have any effect.  (I tried simply the "hd=..." since I saw it in an
> example in Running Linux, and thought perhaps that was the correct
> syntax--I couldn't find any other documentation on this parameter.)

There's a lot of info (and pointers to other sources) in lilo's
User_Guide.ps

> But trying the above statement, does not seem to make this information
> available to fdisk, or anaconda.

I suppose fdisk asks these parameters directly from the disc

> After booting the RH cd, I can switch to a virtual terminal and run
> fdisk -l /tmp/sda, and it shows the incorrect geometry.  And the
> anaconda installer, not liking the geometry it sees, skips the drive,
> which is where I want to install.

I don't know much of anaconda, but this seems poor design.
I suppose getting the disc to report the old CHS values again is the
only thing that will work.

> I can go into fdisk and restate the 1115,255,63 geometry, and get rid
> of "bad geometry" indication in fdisk, but writing the partition table
> does not preserve the 1115,255,63 parameters.

They're not in the partitiontable, so that would be correct.

> Any other solutions?  (...other than starting all over, now that Lilo
> supports booting images located above 1024 cylinders.)

I'm not sure, but can you force in the BIOS the disc to report the geometry
you want? (Usually on IDE discs (on teh onboard IDE controller) the BIOS
does allow this)

Eric



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Argh, Linux 2.4.0 does not boot!
Date: 20 Apr 2001 06:44:25 GMT

Igor4584 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I try to boot it, lilo says "uncompressing kernel............"
> and then it hangs.

Had the same problem sometime ago. Check the processor type you
defined during the compilation, if it does not fit with the 'real'
processor the kernel won't boot.
Davide

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From: "John W. Krahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getty replacement?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:01:21 GMT

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:57:05 GMT, Jeffrey J. Bacon staggered into the
> Black Sun and said:
> >is there a replacement for getty/mingetty that will interpret ansi
> >colour escape sequences and display /etc/issue & /etc/motd with colours?
> 
> mingetty will do the right thing!  Read my previous post again.  The
> ANSI sequence for "Set color to bright red" is ESC[1;33 , and if you put
                                                 ^^^^^^^^
That should be ESC[1;33m
                       ^

After the previous thread I tested this with mingetty (SuSE) and agetty
(Slackware) and they both work just fine.

> that code within /etc/issue , then everything after that code will be
> displayed in bright red.  As I said before, the hard part is inserting
> the ESC into a text file.  You can use vim or emacs to do that, or you
> can edit /etc/issue with a hex editor and insert the ESC that way if
> learning vi is too much of a pain (as you said in E-mail.)
> 
> If you are going to call yourself "Administrator" in your .sig , then
> you should learn at least the basics of vi.  vi is the closest thing to
> a standard editor that the Unices have, and sooner or later, you will
> find yourself at a box that doesn't have your editor of choice, but does
> have vi.


John
-- 
use Perl;
program
fulfillment

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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ide raid card
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:11:29 +0800

is there any ide raid card that support linux?



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From: MegaSurge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.sound
Subject: SBLive Problems...
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:41:28 -0700

I'm not really a big sound/multimedia expert and I'm having some issues
with my new SoundBlaster Live card I got.  Anyway, I just purchased a
new SBLive card for my linux system.  I run SuSE 7.1 with the 2.4
kernel.  I tried compiling the drivers directly into the kernel, using
modules and using modules with Alsa.  Every configuration produces the
same results.  I can play cd music fine however if I try to play wav or
mp3 files I get a squeeling noise as output.  Does anybody have any idea
why this might be happening?

I read about two things in FAQ's and other material I found online that
may
be attributed.  One is the SMP kernel thing.  I do not have a
multiproccessor system and I don't have SMP compiled into the kernel as
module or otherwise.  I've read a couple of things that indicated some
people were having issues where the emu10k1 driver seems to think the
system is SMP despite that it's not and it's not compiled in.  Is there
any merit to this?  Is SMP with the emu10k1 even an issue that might
cause this
problem?

The other thing that may be attributed is that I have an Abit Be6
motherboard with the HPT366 onboard controller.  My system for the most
part is all scsi (using a PCI adaptec card), however I do have one ATA66
drive
for storage so I do use this driver.  Is there some compatibility issue
between these two that would cause problems?

I did check to verify I do not have any irq or dma conflicts with
anything
and I don't.  The SBLive card has IRQ 10 designated for it and nothing
else
is sharing that irq.  There are no other reports that I see in my log
files
or anywhere else either that would indicate there is a hardware conflict
so
I'm thinking it's software/driver related.  Any assistance in this
matter
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

P.S.  I did download the latest CVS snapshot for the emu10k1 module,
compiled it and tried using that just tonight but I got the same results
of distorted noise.


-- 
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with LT modem
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:55:07 +0100

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Peet Grobler wrote:

> I've got a Lucent winmodem. I saw somewhere yesterday where you can download
> a patch that will allow this modem to work under Linux. Unfortunately I lost
> the URL. Can someone please point me to it?

You could try www.linmodems.org

-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell                       [Eridani Linux 6.3 Now!]
Eridani Linux  --  The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat-based Linux CDROMs Available
Email:linux @ eridani.co.uk  http://www.eridani.co.uk   Fax:+44-8701-600807
                       Kick the bitbucket to reply.
           *** A tachyon? A gluon that's not quite dry. ***


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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ecc or ecc+reg
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:58:32 +0800

i am planning to upgrade the memory of my linux box, using asus p2b. just
want to know if there is any difference between ecc and ecc+registered
memory?! the old one installed on the board will be installed to other pc
after the upgrade. thanks.



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Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:48:02 GMT

In article <1mMD6.1519$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>As for your specific claim, you seem an intelligent fellow, but you cannot
>be serious when you claim that "f***" is acceptable and normal English.
>Perhaps it was 400 years ago on a dock in London, but this is not 400 years
>ago.  This is here and now, and the word "f***" is currently considered not
>acceptable for public usage.  So continue to amuse yourself with Ye Olde
>Dictionary if you like, but you really aren't at all persuasive on the
>matter.

Not acceptable amongst elders perhaps, but you'll find it in common usage in 
conversations between those under thirty. Mostly in non-sexual connotations. 
Try watching any television program aimed at that age group shown after the 
watershed. You might not like the fact it's used, but in casual conversation 
between friends of a certain age group you'll find it used quite a bit. And 
not to shock either, just as another word in the vocabularly, and quite 
acceptable to that age group*. 

The fact it's even used on television when a certain other word still gets 
bleeped out should say a lot.

ian.
* I'm not talking about the old, "f'ing this, and f'ing that" type 
conversations either. 

 \ /
(@_@)  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
/(&)\  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
 | |

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reiner Griess)
Subject: OT? Is OS-X THE userfriendly Unix?
Date: 20 Apr 2001 09:51:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi together,

I'm asking me, if OS-X will be _the_ Unix/linux/BSD
(whatever) for the standard-user. Is OS-X the friendliest
unix out there? Is it a kind of Unix at all? Is it the
OS which Linux tries to be for many years? Powerfull
on command line, nice to use with mouse, good looking,
fast (?), stable. Ok: expensive, but this should not
discussed yet.

Anybody there who have tested OS-X yet? Any opinions?

see you
Reiner

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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ES688 AudioDrive (non plug and play)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:00:40 +1200

Personally, I have found that it is easier to just compile non-PnP ISA
cards directly into the kernel -- saves mucking around with all this
modules c**p.
Or get a cheap PCI card -- they seem to be the easiest of the lot to
configure (Creative ensoniq, etc --)

In article <hnMD6.103$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Missy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I have a soundcard (named in subject), and Linux does not detect it. Is
> there a way to install it anyways, or am I just stuck? Thanks,
> Missy :-)
> --
> Visit my website at: http://missy842.tripod.com/missy842 !!

Never trust a man in a suit
cll

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Malcolm Beattie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:06:59 +0000 (UTC)

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
>
>>>>happen. According to folklore, you can pretty much replace an entire 390 one
>>>>piece at a time without ever rebooting -- I imagine that's a bit exagerated.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I believe you can. If everything in the system is hot-swappable, why
>>> not?
>>
>>There's got to be a bus that connects everything.

Not a bus, no. However, there's a central MCM (Multi Chip Module)
which contains all the CPUs, the SC (System Controller) chip, the
MBA (Memory Bus Adapter) chips and such like. Although it's in some
sense a "single point of failure" there's a huge amount of redundancy
built into it. All the CPUs actually have two execution engines which
run everything in parallel and the results are compared. Any problems
which persist after (transparent) retries cause "sparing": the CPU
state is (transparently) transferred to a spare CPU and the machine
"phones home". There's always at least one spare CPU on the MCM and,
unless you are using all the others (14 on a G6, 20 on a z900), there
are actually plenty of spares: not that you're likely at need them
anyway.

>Rudundant interconnects are possible.  Don't know if the 390 has them.

Pretty much everything in the S/390 and z900 has redundancy built in.
A lot of information is available online about S/390 but there's so
much (and mainframe jargon is a whole new world) that it's difficult
to get a technical overview (plenty of marketing guff though). I gave
a talk on "IBM Mainframe Hardware from a Linux Hacker's Viewpoint"
recently which tries to give such an overview. The slides are available
online at
    http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mbeattie/newcastle2001/index.html

--Malcolm

-- 
Malcolm Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oxford University Computing Services
"I permitted that as a demonstration of futility" --Grey Roger

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