Linux-Misc Digest #658, Volume #26 Fri, 29 Dec 00 13:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Any fix for Java in Netscape? (Harmon Seaver)
Re: linux firewall help (Robert Clayton)
Re: Setting locale failed ("Nikola")
Re: Linux Freezes (Dances With Crows)
How to configure a NIC in RH6.2?? (Bo Berglund)
Re: Setting locale failed (Chris Albert)
Re: craps for linux (Robert Clayton)
Re: Any fix for Java in Netscape? (Robert Clayton)
Anyone running the new NSA "Secure Linux"? (Robert Lynch)
What's up with 2.4.0 and ppp ? (Emmanuel Beranger)
Re: Slow system... ("Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS")
Re: How to configure a NIC in RH6.2?? (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Slow system... ("Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS")
Re: How to set up network printer at linux? (Carfield Yim)
Re: broken glibc & Redhat 7.0?
ppp trouble when not using minicom ! (Ram Bhamidipaty)
help - kernel compilation (Patrick Amirian)
Re: Slow system...
Re: Only with Linux... (James Campbell Andrew)
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From: Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any fix for Java in Netscape?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:23:13 GMT
If I have them enabled, going to a site with java (javascript is the
worst offender) will crash netscape. It locks up, turns grey and won't respond
to either mouse or keyboard. I have to go to an xterm window and kill it.
Sometimes it just crashes and disappears, but usually it does the above.
If I disable just javascript and leave java enabled, some sites with
java work, some don't. I've seen this problem with Netscape and java for some
time now, can't remember how many releases back.
I'm using Mandrake 7 at the moment, about to upgrade to RH 7.0, however,
so I'll see if that makes a difference.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there any fix for java and javascript for netscape? I've looked at
>> all the ns help, done the chkfontpath thing, etc. How come the ns for linux
>> can't deal with java, the ns for Macs seems to work with java and javascript
>> just fine.
> Both java and javascript work fine for me under Linux... What, exactly,
> is the problem you're having?
> Adam
--
Harmon Seaver, MLIS Systems Librarian
Arrowhead Library System Virginia, MN
(218) 741-3840 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://harmon.arrowhead.lib.mn.us
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From: Robert Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux firewall help
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:06:56 -0500
Dan White wrote:
Hi Dan, I don't know if my reply got through so sorry if it posts
twice...
> Sounds like a routing problem. Since it's a firewall, i'm assuming
> they're both on separate networks. Make sure you have two network routes,
> e.g.:
>
> -> 10.10.27.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.128 U 0 0 0 eth1
> -> 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
> 0.0.0.0 10.10.27.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1
Yeah, I've tried this twice and I think that my setup is somehow wrong.
I have (example) the 128 IP lan block a.b.c.128 netmask 255.255.255.128
I want to subnet at 64 IP's, i.e.
lan block 1 at a.b.c.128 netmask 255.255.255.192
lan block 2 at a.b.c.192 netmask 255.255.255.192
I also already have a dedicated router at a.b.c.129
What I hoped could happen was that the external linux nic would be at
a.b.c.130 netmask 255.255.255.192
internal nic at a.b.c.193 netmask 255.255.255.192
This routing means that the linux box needs to use the dedicated router
as its primary gateway. This has never worked out for me, but I've been
assured that it is valid routing. It doesn't forward any traffic to the
router (and the router doesn't forward traffic through it to the
internal net.
Now that this is kind of off topic, sorry for that, but is this a bad
way to do it? Should I perhaps just replace the router at a.b.c.129
with the linux box?
Thanks in advance,
Robert
--
Robert Clayton - System Administrator - ACTiX
"It is time I stepped aside for a less experienced and less able man."
- Professor Scott Elledge on his retirement from Cornell
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From: "Nikola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Setting locale failed
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:14:27 +0100
Yes, you are all rigth, I don't have them on system.
Which packages I have to install?
It is Linux Red Hat 6.2, kernel 2.2.16.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Linux Freezes
Date: 29 Dec 2000 15:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 06:30:49 -0600, Jerry Kreps staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>Penpal International wrote:
>> Today is the second time my linux system freezes. (RH 7.0). I've realy
>> no idea what causes. /var/log/messages doesn't tell me very much. The
>> only in common between 2 freezes is this:
>>
>> Dec 28 14:54:08 ns modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1
>> Dec 28 14:54:08 ns modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
>> sound-service-1-0
>>
>> The first time 8 minutes before it freezes, the second 12 minutes. These
>> 2 freezes occured when I've started working with it.
>> Does anybody knows why it freezes?
>
>More than likely you have misconfigured the vertical or horizonal
>frequencies of your xserver.
No. If you get Hsync and/or Vsync wrong, X will not even start, and
you'll get dumped to the command line. X dying is not a "freeze". If
the system is refusing to accept any input (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill X
and restart it if you're in runlevel 5, Ctrl-Alt-Delete at the command
line, Alt-SysRq-B if nothing else works) then you've got yourself a
genuine freeze.
Problems of this sort are generally caused by bad hardware. One thing
you can try is the memtest86 program available on freshmeat.net ; allow
a couple of hours to run a full check on the RAM in your system. If you
could provide more information on the hardware in your system
(processor, motherboard chipset, amount+kind of RAM, makes + models of
sound/video/network cards, et cetera) that would help too. If you have
a machine with onboard video and without dedicated video RAM (lots of
cheap machines have this) then you may have to tell the kernel that you
have less memory than you actually do. For example, if you have 64M and
the onboard video "shares" 4M of the system RAM, tell the kernel
"mem=60M" at the LILO: bootprompt.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to configure a NIC in RH6.2??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 16:19:51 GMT
I just installed RH6.2 after a disk crash that destroyed my previous
RH5.2 installation. This is not the first time I have installed RH6.2
but it was a while ago....
Now I have this problem:
I have 2 NIC:s in the PC and I must now configure the IP addresses of
them. There was no dialogue in the setup sequence where I could do
that so it has to be done manually.
In earlier situations I think I remember I used the command netcfg to
bring up a program screen where I could configure these details.
But on this system when I type netcfg in a command window in KDE
nothing happens, or really a sequence of error messages pop up ending
with 'No such file or directory'
The total message is approximately (has to write it from memory...):
'File /usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py, line 23, in ?
>From Tkinter import *
File /usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py, line 8, in ?
import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured for
Tk'
What is Python and what is Tk?????
What to do now???
PS: During bootup the two cards are shown as eth0 and eth1
respectively, so they seem to be on teh system...
Bo Berglund
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Setting locale failed
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:21:16 +0100
Nikola wrote:
> Yes, you are all rigth, I don't have them on system.
>
> Which packages I have to install?
>
> It is Linux Red Hat 6.2, kernel 2.2.16.
Nikola,
You dont need to install anything.
You have perl, and you just want to
get rid of an annoying error message
due to some lack of configuration information.
Try doing the following at the command prompt
export LC_ALL=C
and now run perl and see if the errors continue.
Like I said before, you might want to read the perllocale man page.
Good luck
Chris
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From: Robert Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: craps for linux
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:21:45 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever seen an ascii/X version of craps or casino related game
> for Linux? If not, anyone care to write an ascii version?
>
Haven't actually seen it, but if you want it somebody's probably got
it. If you _really_ can't find it, reply and I could probably throw
something together and post the code for review, improvements,
whatever...
Robert
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From: Robert Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any fix for Java in Netscape?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:26:27 -0500
Harmon Seaver wrote:
> I've seen this problem with Netscape and java for some
> time now, can't remember how many releases back.
This seems to be the neverending problem. A couple of things I've found
to help:
Make sure that $MOZILLA_HOME is set to /usr/lib/netscape (or whatever is
appropriate in your case)
Make sure that $CLASSPATH is set to
$MOZILLA_HOME/java/classes:$MOZILLA_HOME/java/classes/java40.jar (that
second entry seems to be necessary, I don't know why)
Install the jdk from sun, and add that to your classpath as well. Then,
under your list of apps used for different file types, use
"appletviewer" from the sun jdk to view java applets instead of seeing
them in the browser window.
HTH,
Robert
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Anyone running the new NSA "Secure Linux"?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 16:36:42 GMT
Anyone running the Linux at:
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html
Is it worth the hassle of setting up?
Any tips or tricks, gotchas?
Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Emmanuel Beranger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: What's up with 2.4.0 and ppp ?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:34:48 +0100
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I have mandrake 7.1, with 2.2.17 kernel.
For usb purposes, I installed 2.4.0-12 kernel, which works fine (as far
as usb is concerned)
However, I can't use kppp connection application : it seems that ppp
module has been renamed to "ppp_generic". I can't "modprobe ppp", while
I can "modprobe "ppp_generic", but that is of little help, because kppp
does not recognise it.
Here is my log from kppp
Any thought as how I could fix this ?
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Dec 29 15:46:37 localhost pppd[444]: ioctl(TIOCSETD(PPP)): Invalid argument(22)
Dec 29 15:46:37 localhost pppd[444]: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This
could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not
included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a module, try
`/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'. If that fails, check t
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From: "Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow system...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:41:08 -0600
> Your swap is too small. Make you swap space twice your RAM size. That is
> why your box is thrashing.
Thrashing is caused by a lack of RAM not swap space. His swap space is fine
unless he runs very big apps.
> You /home may be too small, if you install a lot of stuff under your own
> account. Use the excess wasted on /boot.
> A basic video card for sure. 4MB of memory means a very sloooowww screen
> refresh. KDE is GUI !!! Get a good graphic card with 16MB of RAM.
>
>
>
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to configure a NIC in RH6.2??
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 16:46:42 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund) writes:
> I just installed RH6.2 after a disk crash that destroyed my previous
> RH5.2 installation. This is not the first time I have installed RH6.2
> but it was a while ago....
> Now I have this problem:
> I have 2 NIC:s in the PC and I must now configure the IP addresses of
> them. There was no dialogue in the setup sequence where I could do
> that so it has to be done manually.
> In earlier situations I think I remember I used the command netcfg to
> bring up a program screen where I could configure these details.
> But on this system when I type netcfg in a command window in KDE
> nothing happens, or really a sequence of error messages pop up ending
> with 'No such file or directory'
>
> The total message is approximately (has to write it from memory...):
> 'File /usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py, line 23, in ?
> From Tkinter import *
> File /usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py, line 8, in ?
> import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured for
> Tk'
>
> What is Python and what is Tk?????
>
> What to do now???
Sounds like an installation or configuration error. Look for
a RPM on the distribution CD called pytk, pythonlib, or similar.
Alternatively, uninstall and re-install netcfg and see what
RPM packages it depends on.
--
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From: "Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow system...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:45:58 -0600
"Olivier Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92hk1d$ej$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I have a brand new machine equipped with a Celeron 600 MHz, HD 20Gb (7200
> tr/mn) 128Mb RAM.
> My partitions :
> swap 128 Mb
> / 4 Gb
> /boot 5Gb
> /usr 5Gb
> /var 6Gb
> /home 650 Mb
>
> I installed RH 6.2 and KDE, mainly to make Java development and different
> development tools like Java Builder Foundation.
> I find my system very slow, especially when I use Java tools (compilation
> time is very slow)
> Also my video card is quiet basic (4 Mb memory)
> I can hear the HD turning a lot with a lot of noise and the refreshing of
> the screen is very slow, especially when I switch between virtual
Desktops.
Make sure you are using the correct video drivers for X. Also is the video
card using shared memory if it is the refresh will all ways be slow,ie same
memory for system and video means bottle neck in the memory bus.
>
> Any idea what may be the cause of the problem or is it mainly due to the
> processor too slow ?
>
> Olivier
>
>
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From: Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set up network printer at linux?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 01:31:43 +0800
Rod Smith wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > As title, how to do?
>
> Do you want to share a printer connected to Linux, or use a printer from
> Linux that's available on the network? Also, what protocol do you
> want/need to use? (For instance, do you want to share a printer with
> Windows, MacOS, or other Unix/Linux systems?)
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
Sorry for late reply, actually I interested in how to setup both, but at
this point I need to know how to use a printer from Linux that's
available on the network. Don't really know what you mean for protocol.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: broken glibc & Redhat 7.0?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:30:06 -0000
Blackdown Java 2 SDK will not run on RedHat 7.0 - but I hear a fix is in
the works.
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>
> In article <92gbs2$1hb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Bismuti wrote:
> >It looks like I need glibc2.1.3 to run Blackdown Java 2 SDK.
> >
> >I have downloaded it, can I install it safely, or could it break others
> >things? I am using Redhat7.0.
> [-]
> IIRC RH 7.0 came with some pre-version of glibc-2.1.3, so
> you might upgrade to the final version or glibc-2.2 or go
> with glibc-2.1.3 and wait for glibc-2.2.1. Might be the best
> if you don't have special requirements.
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
> --
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> \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: Ram Bhamidipaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ppp trouble when not using minicom !
Date: 29 Dec 2000 09:31:50 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've run into an unusual situation and am looking for any
help or suggestions.
The problem has to do with getting PPP to work. If I dial
and make the initial connection via "minicom" everything
is fine. But when I use an "expect" script to open the
serial device and do all the dialing pppd cannot get through
its negotiation sequence and eventually drops the line.
I even tried using "C-Kermit" to make the initial connection
but I get the same failure as the expect script.
Ultimately I want to find a way to make "expect" do the dialing -
I like its level of programmability and I do not want to use "dip"
or "chat" scripts from ppp.
My real question is this: What is "minicom" doing that is special?
I used strace on minicom and did not see anything unusual that
was done during setup.
-Ram
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Patrick Amirian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: help - kernel compilation
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:37:16 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to compile the kerenl 2.4.test12, and everything is working
fine except,
on the server the nfs daemon is not working anymore with the new kernel
on the client, I can't mount directorys (perhaps because the server is
not there)
can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong during my compilation ?
what options do I need to set for nfs when I'm doing the make config
step ?
thanks alot!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow system...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:43:04 -0500
Things to check :
Is the system really using 128 MB of main memory? Is it detecting just the
first 32 mb only ?
cat /proc/meminfo and check it's results.
repartition the disk to put a 10-20Mb /boot partition at the top.
Is your video card up to the task ?
Get a Martox card, or something that works well with linux.
Are your hdd's using dma transfers ?
Olivier Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92hk1d$ej$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I have a brand new machine equipped with a Celeron 600 MHz, HD 20Gb (7200
> tr/mn) 128Mb RAM.
> My partitions :
> swap 128 Mb
> / 4 Gb
> /boot 5Gb
> /usr 5Gb
> /var 6Gb
> /home 650 Mb
>
> I installed RH 6.2 and KDE, mainly to make Java development and different
> development tools like Java Builder Foundation.
> I find my system very slow, especially when I use Java tools (compilation
> time is very slow)
> Also my video card is quiet basic (4 Mb memory)
>
> I can hear the HD turning a lot with a lot of noise and the refreshing of
> the screen is very slow, especially when I switch between virtual
Desktops.
>
> Any idea what may be the cause of the problem or is it mainly due to the
> processor too slow ?
>
> Olivier
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 07:04:03 +0000
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WordStar! Now that brings back OLD memories. First computer...errr
> wordprocessor I ever used. No way I could recall the keystrokes after
> all these years though!
You might be surprised :-)
Jim
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