Linux-Misc Digest #680, Volume #19 Thu, 1 Apr 99 02:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Web page logins automated? (Mike Freitas)
Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux (Morely Dotes)
Re: I killed my Linux box ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redirecting to Nowhere (Gregory Greenman)
Re: I killed my Linux box ("Fertimport Porto Alegre")
Re: Magic sysrq key (NF Stevens)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
Accounting software (Adam J. trickett)
Re: exchange client that runs on LInux (Glen Turner)
Re: Star Office and X - Windows queries (Mike Parkes)
LILO Installation ("Spud")
Re: Hauppage WinTv ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: procmailrc and .procmailrc (Michael Powe)
Re: fetchmail + attachments ? (Michael Powe)
Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux ("Richard Van Fossan")
Re: How much RAM is enough? ("Robbt Erisbright")
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (brian moore)
easy one I hope (xterm config issue) ("Tim Russell")
Re: Help! need MSproject like program!
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Dr Paul Kinsler)
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From: Mike Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web page logins automated?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:18:25 -0800
Are you looking for something like:
'loginname:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
This works for sites that bring up a box for login name and password
before they can be accessed.
Let me know if this is what you were looking for...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Morely Dotes)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:57:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Hi everybody,
>
>I'm looking for a Web-Browser that I can use on an Sparc Station 5 that is
>running on Sparc-Linux (Redhat 5.2).
>
>Is here anybody, who can give me a hint, what is the best one to use on
>such a system?
>The bad thing is that one can't compile Netscape by himself. :-((
Actually, Ralf, Netscape did go open-source about 9 months or a year ago,
though I no longer know where to look for the sources.
Barring that, however, Lynx will certainly let you navigate, even if you do
have to download the graphics manually.
--
"Opt-out is a cop-out." - Jerry Bookter
[ No "courtesy copies" via e-mail, please. ]
This message was tested on small, cute, furry animals
who cried piteously while it was being read to them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I killed my Linux box
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:13:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nadine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something went horribly wrong when I tried to install StarOffice 5.0 the
> other day.
>
> I'm running RedHat 5.1 (upgraded here and there) and KDE 1.1. StarOffice
> needed some glibc libraries that it supposedly couldn't find on my pc.
> Since that glibc .tar file that came with the program was to be
> installed in a StarOffice subdirectory, I thought what the hey, install
> it anyway.
>
> 1. From an X Windows terminal I run /bin/sh to then run the script that
> installs the libraries (as is said in the readme).
> 2. The libraries don't install successfully, and the shell stops
> recognizing commands.
> 3. I can't even exit X properly, and when I press ctl-alt-backspace it
> comes back to a command line login instead of kdm.
> 4. Try to shutdown:
> /bin/shutdown: file not found
> 5. I do the forbidden: press the power button.
>
> Needless to say, nothing cleared up magically when I rebooted. The
> normal Linux boot messages scroll up the screen, until it gets to this:
> Partition check
> hda1 hda2 <hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8>
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
>
> Then nothing. Blank. You enter commands and there's no reaction, not
> even an error message. I tried to use RedHat's rescue disk and get
> nothing but an error message, too.
>
> So, what do I do? Should I start looking for an upgrade disk? Is all my
> data loss (well, the stuff that wasn't backed up yet?) Please help me.
Everything's probably there. You may be surprised at how long a file system
check can take. But if the system has no disk activity after the "mounted
root" message, yes it has apparently locked up.
Assuming you have a boot prompt for LILO, try typing "linux 1" in at the LILO
prompt. This will prevent it from attempting to load the Xwindow system. Then
you can login as root and remove packages that you suspect might be failing.
Remember, removing StarOffice will not erase the files it made. (See the man
page for rpm; rpm -e specifically.)
If you have no LILO: boot prompt, then try and make a bootable floppy
diskette that is used for recovery purposes. www.linuxberg.com has a number
of recovery linux images, bootable from Windows as well as straight off
floppy. Once booting a linux floppy, you'd need to "mount /dev/hda5 /recover"
which would put your hard drive under the /recover directory. You will
probably need to "mkdir /recover" first. After the mount, everything that
used to start with "/" on your hard drive will be found under "/recover" --
e.g., /recover/bin, /recover/home/MYACCOUNT, etc. Your choice where to go
from there... mount a floppy or zip disk, copy files, remove packages, or
punt and re-install Linux.
I've been in bad situations like this before, and removing packages or doing
an "install/upgrade" of Red Hat usually put things back to rights. I've never
really needed to reformat and start over.
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From: Gregory Greenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redirecting to Nowhere
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:08:02 -0800
James Cook wrote:
> I've got Borland's Interbase 4 running on Linux. It's really cool and almost
> always works. I use it for home development. There appears to be a problem with
> its log file however. I've seen posts by others regarding an ever growing log
> file, until there is no more disk space. Alas, the rumors are true.
>
> Someone mentioned a technique where the file (interbase.log) can be redirected
> to /dev/null. (Or something like that. I think they mentioned soft-linked? I'm
> doing this from memory, sorry if I get it wrong). Being completely new to Linux
> (or Unix) what are they talking about and how do I do it? Step-by-step for the
> neophite would be nice.
>
> thanks,
> jim
Jim,
In your /dev directory you have a "device" called /dev/null. It is not a real
device - it is a "bit-bucket" - anything sent here will be discarded.
You redirect your standard output via the ">" operator, as follows:
cat foobar > /dev/null
will "cat" or copy file "foobar" to /dev/null, which means the copy will
be discarded. File foobar will still be there.
You can use redirection to real files too.
cat foobar > foobar.bak
will make a copy of foobar called foobar.bak. That's redirection, because
cat would normally print to the screen, but you have redirected the output
to file foobar.bak or the the "bit-bucket" /dev/null.
Dr. Gregory Greenman
Physicist
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From: "Fertimport Porto Alegre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I killed my Linux box
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:52:18 -0300
Had the same problem here. I did post a msg in this ng, but had no
feedback till now :-(
Made a fresh reinstall on my RH 5.0 tdy.
Following the steps on README (to install so50 glibc2), to mannual
intallation, messed everything up once again! When u rename
'ld-linux.so.2' or delete it, the whole system freeze!
Believe the only way to overcome it is download an utility boot
disquete, boot fm it, mount the necessary partitions and copy the
correct 'ld-linux.so.2' fm so50 glibc2. I saw something like that on
'Bootdisk-HOWTO'. If u can, read it!
If somebody have another tip. I wud like to know it!
Tks
Ivan Daudt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Magic sysrq key
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:20:30 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar) wrote:
[snip]
>Did you try forcing the keyboard out of raw mode (Alt-SysReq-r)
>before trying to change to a virtual console? I'm not sure
>if it works, and hopefully won't have to find out anytime soon ;).
Tried that. Got an entry in /var/log/messages "SysRq: Keyboard mode
set to XLATE" to prove it.
Norman
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:34:02 -0500
> The optimum trade-off point between intuitiveness
> and power is, however, a matter of preference.e
There isn't a trade-off between usability and power. Some really
great examples of software usability - IBM's VisualAge for Java
comes to mind - are also the most powerful. By contrast, some of
the least usable software - vi comes to mind - is also the least
powerful.
Also, I think a metaphore should be used when it's illustrative
of a point. Not knowing a language is like not knowing how to use
software. Perhaps a better example is coding in binary and using
an IDE?e
HarryE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam J. trickett)
Subject: Accounting software
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:50:51 GMT
Hi,
A fiend is looking for:
Do you know of any *inexpensive* account/billing packages available for
linux? I'm looking for something that will keep a balance, send out billing
notices via email, etc.
I don't know if it's client/server or single program application, but any
ideas will be considered.
Adam
trickett at ucrac1 dot ucr dot edu
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:48:58 +0930
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: exchange client that runs on LInux
Robert Binz wrote:
> You are on track. Many people suggested that I use pop3. But as you
> have found, many Exchange Admins have this thing about using it and
> turn it off. So you have to have a native client to talk to exchange.
Last time the MS Exchange product manager visited Australia
she promised that there would be IMAP support in the about-
to-be-released version of Exchange.
If this eventuated, you should be able to use any IMAP
client (such as Navigator or Pine) to read, file and
delete your mail.
--
Glen Turner Network Specialist
Tel: (08) 8303 3936 Information Technology Services
Fax: (08) 8303 4400 The University of Adelaide 5005
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] South Australia
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Parkes)
Subject: Re: Star Office and X - Windows queries
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:43:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka) wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:40:41 GMT, Mike Parkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Tried to install Star Office but whenever I run setup System
>>Configuration (keyboard, sound, mouse etc) launches instead
>>of the Star Office setup.
>
>That's because executing setup will launch the setup program somewhere
>along your path and which most likely came with your system. Try
>/opt/Office50/bin/setup (where /opt/Office50 is replaced with your
>StarOffice install dir).
Figured it out after sending the message. Thanks anyway.
Can someone point me in the direction of the X-Window instructions for
adding new programs to its interface.
Mike Parkes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO Installation
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:49:34 GMT
I have a 12.9 gig HD. I have a 6.91 gig FAT 32 partition which is my C:
drive, primary. It is bootable. The rest is divided into one extended and
two more primary, both primaries being linux formatted. I created the 6.91
gig FAT 32 partition with Partition Magic, and while I was doing so, it
reports what size crosses the 1024 cylinder boundary and such will not be
bootable. I made sure that the partition is less than 1024 cylinders, so I
expected that LILO would be able to boot it. However, I am having some
problems. I run liloconfig, (slackware 3.6) and choose expert. I started a
new LILO header, and put a DOS entry as the first option. Then it goes on to
show me what partitions I may add...and it doesn't show me ANY. It should
show me /dev/hda1, but the view is blank. So I manually told it to add
/dev/hda1. Then I add my Linux partition, no problems there. Then I choose
to install it to the MBR, and it installs. However, when I reboot my
computer, LILO does not appear!!! It just goes straight into Win98. Can
someone help? My C: drive only goes from cylinder 1 to 891...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hauppage WinTv
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:50:19 GMT
Get the following :
http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~rjkm/linux/bttv-0.6.3.tar.gz
A program is included readee that saves the eeprom to a file which can
be restored. I recently got xawtv working with the bttv modules. It
is working great. I am quite happy with it. Before I was resigned to
use Win98 for my WinTV model 400 card use. It is very cool to have
the ability to watch video using linux now. I have also tried
bttvgrab but have had very poor luck with it as far as creating
movies. The Hauppauge Capture program and DVP are far better as far
as creating videos. Also, I use the latest xanim with aktion to
watch my own intel 5 codec videos under linux. That program is very
good for watching your videos. Mike
>Dear all,
> I have read in the past that using TV apps under linux can trash the
>eeprom on Hauppage
>WinTV cards. Is this still true with the bttv/i2c/tuner drivers supplied
>with the 2.2.3 kernel?
>Or can I now safely use, say, kwintv, without making making my card
>unusable under Win95?
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Stuart McNicholas
>
>------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: procmailrc and .procmailrc
Date: 31 Mar 1999 16:05:24 -0800
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>>>>> "Azfar" == Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Azfar> Therefore, I seek your advise that should both
Azfar> /etc/procmailrc and /home/user/.procmailrc work
Azfar> simultaneously or not? Which has precedence? It is
Azfar> obviously stupid to change hundreds of recipes each time
Azfar> you have to make changes. That is why I am looking 'badly'
Azfar> for a global one.
The global /etc/procmailrc is read and processed before the
$HOME/.procmailrc. Therefore, nothing in the local file is likely to
be able to undo anything in the global one. Since you don't give an
example, it's hard to picture what exactly is going on.
For serious inquiries about procmail, you would best join the procmail
mailing list:
send subscription request to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Note that this is a high-volume list. But, you'll be talking to real
experts.
mp
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail + attachments ?
Date: 31 Mar 1999 16:17:28 -0800
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>>>>> "LETOT" == LETOT R��mi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
LETOT> Hello all, I try to configure fetchmail at home so that it
LETOT> retrieves mail for several users on my machine. The server
LETOT> is pop3, and I'm able to retrieve the mail, but the
LETOT> attachments are not decoded : they are included as text in
LETOT> the body of the message. What happens, and more important,
LETOT> what should I do ?
Not enough information. Are these attachments you are sending to
yourself? What kinds of attachments are they (binary, text)?
Are you using netscrape for mail? There may be a problem there. What
client is being used to make the attachments?
mp
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: "Richard Van Fossan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:55:42 -0800
If you check out one of the Linux newsgroups, I think you'll find out that
there is a version of Netscape Navigator that will compile under Linux. I
don't know if MS's UNIX version of IE will work on Sparc Linux.
Richard van Fossan
Microsoft Developer Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>Hi everybody,
>
>I'm looking for a Web-Browser that I can use on an Sparc Station 5 that is
>running on Sparc-Linux (Redhat 5.2).
>
>Is here anybody, who can give me a hint, what is the best one to use on
>such a system?
>The bad thing is that one can't compile Netscape by himself. :-((
>
>
>Bye
>
>Ralf
>
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>
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From: "Robbt Erisbright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much RAM is enough?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:36:45 -0600
Matt Eckhaus wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi
>
>I'm buying a laptop to run Linux. I'm thinking of getting one of those
>nice Sharp ultraportables - there's only one problem: it has 64Mb of
>RAM, which is not upgradeable - it's hardwired to the motherboard. It's
>a pentium 266Mhz (not a pentium II), which seems alright, but 64Mb of
>RAM seems a bit slim for Linux these days.
I think 64 should be fine, but I'm not that much of a linux genius. I ran
Linux on My AMD 233 with 64 megs and it ran fine.
About the 266Mhz pentium, are you sure ? I'm pretty sure all the Pentium's
after the 233 were Pentium II's the reason being their are PII 233mhzs and
233 just pentium still socket 7.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 1 Apr 1999 05:23:21 GMT
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:34:20 -0800,
Keith Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A good example of what you're asking, I think, is the Perl
> installation; when you run configure, it prompts you with
> configuration questions, and you can override the questions
> altogether with command-line options. Are the questions
> easy to answer? Well...no, not always, but if you're
> using Linux, you've made a conscious decision to use
> an OS that's not always easy to use.
The Perl configure questions are easy to answer: just hit return and
take the default. (I always use -d to force it so it can run the
configure while I get a smoke.)
Though you do want to watch the configure run a few times just because
there is a lot of humor buried in the process.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: "Tim Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: easy one I hope (xterm config issue)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:54:27 -0500
Hey Everyone,
Never thought about this until someone asked me recently (guess It just
never came up). How do you change (increase) the size of the font in an
xterm session.
I was able to change the background color, foreground color,
etc...without problem, but couldn't find anything on how to increase the
font size.
Redhat 5.2 is the distribution being used.
Thanks,
TMR
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:55:39 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! need MSproject like program!
The only one that I know of would be Kproject
http://rs45.bv.tu-berlin.de/JOCHEN/KPROJECT/kproject.php3
Let me know if you find any others.
Greg
> My new boss is requiring everyone to submit schedules
> electronicly as MSproject files. I've got Applix for the
> word and excel replacements. (Applix was able to
> save the day recently by reading in corrupt excel
> files that MSexcel couldn't!) But, even though
> I can dual boot my computer and run MSproject
> on winnt4.0, I'd much rather have a linux program.
>
> Any clues?
>
> thanks,
>
> Robert Megee
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:49:43 +0100 (BST)
In comp.os.linux.misc Richard Stovall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've gotten used to an 20" SGI (Sony) monitor at work and find that
> I have a real hard time coming back to my weeny little 17" number
> at home. Virtual desktops are cool and all that, but there's
> nothing like having it all there on one screen to make you a
> believer in the big ones.
Well, I use eight virtual desktops on my 21" monitor while at work,
so spare a thought for me using my low-res 14" monitor at home. :-/
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