Linux-Misc Digest #680, Volume #25                Wed, 6 Sep 00 11:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Partitions (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  Princeton Graphics EO900 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Enlightenment? ("Yura")
  Trouble mounting NFS root filesystem (Tier)
  Re: what's up with Sun? (Fred Nastos)
  Proper use of .plan file? (Dave Skolnick)
  Re: tape drives (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  Re: partition ("hans eric")
  Re: NEEDED: Device to display web page on monitors (Eric)
  Re: waar vind ik drivers voor een dynalink is64pph(+) isdnkaart en hoe installeer ik 
ze (Eric)
  Re: what's up with Sun? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: NEEDED: Device to display web page on monitors (Eric)
  Re: red hat help (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  Re: Linux users please read !!IMPORTANT!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  4track recording software for linux (Shane Kelly)
  Accessing an Oracle-Database from Linux (Michael)
  Re: Accessing an Oracle-Database from Linux (Davide Bianchi)
  Sound problem in >= 2.3.99 kernel (Simon Kongshoj)
  Re: rpm disaster (Masoud Pajoh)
  Re: what's up with Sun? (Donal K. Fellows)
  acroread disable print (Marcel Vanormelingen)

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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:17:39 -0400

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote (in part):

> Robert Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In article <8ouiri$goh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
> : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> :>Dux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> :>:>
> :>:>   http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition-1.html
> :>
> :>: The URL you sent
> :>: me gave me a dead link.
> :>
> : Rather than engage in pedantry, why not address the fact that the URL in
> : your earlier post is incorrect ?
>
> I copied it off the HOWTO page I was looking at in the browser, where it
> appeared as a link title "Introduction", as I recall.  As it happens,
> it's a bad link, but hardly a brain-blower.
>
> :>To find the url, I did "lynx http://www.linuxdoc.org/".
>
> : But then you must have written the results wrongly.
>
> No, I cut and pasted from the address shown in the browser.
>
> : http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition.html *is* a valid URL
>
> And that's where I was.
>
> : but http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition-1.html does *not*
> : exist, it is therefore not surprising that the original poster cannot
> : find it
>
> It seems to now be:
>
>   http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/partition-1.html

I just repeated all this and the URL (this minute) seems to be
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition.html
Perhaps Peter is relayed to a different mirror site with different results. I
am in the Northeast USA and Peter is in Spain, so it would not be surprising
if he is being served by a different server (because of any probably
load-balancing that is being done) than I, with slightly different URLs.

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/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  9:12am up 28 days, 16:40, 3 users, load average: 1.25, 1.12, 1.10




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Princeton Graphics EO900
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:10:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone with experience using a Princeton Graphics EO900 monitor with
Linux and XFree86?  I'm considering purchasing one and I'd appreciate
any insights.
Thanks,

Brian Seppanen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
from AREA 54 the secret government disco labs in
Provo Utah


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From: "Yura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:24:36 GMT

In article <Vzqt5.32178$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Fryman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have seen the enlightenment desktop manager and I would be interested in
> trying it. I'm completely new to Linux so I really don't know what is involved
> in installing it. Can someone tell me how to download and install
> (I'm runnung Caldera OpenLinux  eDesktop 2.4)
> 
> 
> 

 Just go to enlightenment.org and then to Download section.
All you need is one rpm file on latest Enlightenment version.
Then just install it.

If you need more help,. contat me.

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From: Tier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Trouble mounting NFS root filesystem
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:21:52 -0500

I'm trying to get my RH6.2 box to mount an NFS root filesystem, but it
fails even before a packet gets sent to the host (snoop shows nothing
from the client).

I've tried two experiments.  With the kernel loaded from a local disk, I
get the following repeating error:
    RPC: sendmsg returned error 101  (errorno.h ENETUNREACH)
If I set up BOOTP/TFTP and load the kernel from the host, I get this
error:
    neighbour table overflow

Compiling the kernel without NFS root fs seems ok, and I can mount the
shared dir without problems.  It seems like I'm missing some component
from the kernel, but I can't see what (NFS filesystem, boot from net,
net support, NIC driver are all on).  Any ideas?

Thanks-
Paul




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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: 6 Sep 2000 13:24:42 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when David Steuber would say:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin) writes:

>     generally leads to things like using enormous but slow IDE drives,
>     and trying to share RAM with the video board.

How much slower are IDE drives really? Are you comparing them to SCSI?
Thanks

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From: Dave Skolnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Proper use of .plan file?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:35:16 GMT

I have seen references to .plan files. Is this a convention for keeping
notes & to-do lists or is there an application that manages a reminder
list?


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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tape drives
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:38:24 -0400

Tim Moore wrote:

> > > can anyone suggest a good quality tape drive that will work well under
> > > linux - in particular suse linux.
> >
> > My Seagate STT220000N-MC ("Travan NS") is an internal SCSI drive with
> > hardware compression.  It writes 10/20 GB tapes.  Works very well, cost
> > about $350, plus $130 for 4 tapes, plus the SCSI controller.  I think it's
> > fast SCSI-- transfers 1 MB/s.  Came with Backup Exec for Windows, which is
>
> I've been using an HP Colorado Travan-5 (10/20GB).
> ~950KB/s, EIDE/ATAPI (I use SCSI emulation).
> Tapes are $38US or $3.80/GB.
> Main benefit for me is tape capacity.  I can do a level0 and 12-14
> incremental dumps on a single tape.
> --
> timothymoore
>    bigfoot
>      com

I happen to use an HP C1599A DDS-2 drive (8Gbytes compressed) @ US$8 or so per
tape. Since my hard drives are not yet full, I can get them both onto one tape
(fortunately, since cron does it for me when I am asleep).

But I would worry about putting more than one dump onto a tape because, if you
lose that tape, you lose more than a day's work. I use a separate tape for each
day. So my 6 tapes for Monday through Saturday are cycled weekly. I have 5
Sunday tapes that I recycle monthly. I have an "infinite" number of monthly
tapes that go into my safe deposit box at the bank. This way, I can get to any
monthly starting point I want, and if my Weekly and Dayly tapes are not
destroyed, I can get to withing 24 hours of any accident within the last month.
I guess my only losses would be if a file gets changed soon after a monthly
tape, and then destroyed, but I do not notice the destruction until over a
month goes by. I could perhaps find the most recent nearly-good copy on a
monthly tape, but not the most recent good version. In 35 years, this has
happened to me only once.

With your scheme, it seems to me I could lose up to 2 weeks' work. I would not
wish to accept this risk.

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 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  9:24am up 28 days, 16:52, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 1.09, 1.08




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From: "hans eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:30:09 +0100

Hello!
As Frank wrote FIPS does a great work! Boot your box with dos. Use a floppy
dos for this; it is not recommended to boot with Win95�s dos.
With fips you can then �cut� of part of your partition. But you should run
defrag first. (IMPORTANT).
If you want to have a comfortable dual boot machine with e.g. LILO as
bootmanager you will have a problem if your 2GB linux-partition starts above
1024, which is likely with a 10 GB disk.

Three possible workarounds:
1. Don�t use Windows at all (recommende)
2. make a bootdisk and boot linux with this. (not comfortable)
3. Create a partition below 1024 as a �boot-partition� mount it under /boot
and install the kernel there. Then make another vfat-partition for your Win
(d:) and use the last e.g. 2GB for your root-partition (mount /). This is
not complicated.
So you need then 4 partitions.
1 vfat (for Win95 c:)
2 ext2 ( /boot ; under 1024)
3 vfat (for Win95 d:)
4 ext2 ( / ; rest of your disk)

Best regards Hans Eric



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEEDED: Device to display web page on monitors
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:40:06 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeff Miko wrote:
> 
> If anyone can give me some leads I would appreciate it. I am looking for a
> "device" that can connect to the Internet and display a web page on an SVGA
> compatiable monitor. I thought there might be some type of embedded
> Linux/browser device.
> 
> Here is the current "configuration/system" that I would like to replace with
> something more cost effective and stable
>  - Small profile pc configured on LAN via TCP/IP ($400+)
>  - Windows 98 or 2000 (multiple monitor support) ($150+)
>  - Up to 4 video cards ($40-80 per card)
>  - Using Internet Explorer to display web pages
>  - Running 24x7
> 
> If you know of any such device, please send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks,

You might want to take a look at http://www.qnx.com/demodisk/
It's not linux, but still looks nice though.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: waar vind ik drivers voor een dynalink is64pph(+) isdnkaart en hoe 
installeer ik ze
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:50:26 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

linux wrote:
> 
> waar vind ik drivers voor een dynalink is64pph(+) isdnkaart en hoe
> installeer ik ze ik ben hier al 4 weken mee bezig zonder succes ik hoop dat
> een van jullie een antwoord heeft op mijn vraag
> 
> alvast bedankt

via de linux hardware database kwam ik op de nederlandse site van
dynalink terecht. Mocht je iets nodig hebben zoek dan op: (nog geen 5
minuten werk)

http://lhd.datapower.com/

of probeer de volgende keer de leverancier eens ;-)

http://www.dynalink.nl/linux/

Eric

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06 Sep 2000 09:50:51 -0400

Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >     generally leads to things like using enormous but slow IDE drives,
> >     and trying to share RAM with the video board.

> How much slower are IDE drives really? 

A lot.  I suspect it has more to do with the design of the drive than
the bus it's on, suggesting that some IDE drives are faster than some
SCSI drives; however, the balance is usually tilted far in the other
direction.

For a reference point, I have a 7200rpm IDE drive which is not
perceptibly faster than a 5400rpm IDE drive I also have.  Both are
very obviously slower than a 7200rpm SCSI drive I have.

> Are you comparing them to SCSI?

As opposed to Firewire, USB, or what have you?  I would expect USB
hard drives to be slower.  With modern drives, you'd hit your head on
the bandwidth maximum pretty fast if data comes out of the cache.
Firewire, I've never used.  Parallel port drives?  Yeah, right.  I'll
stay out of _that_ particular mess, thankyouverymuch.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEEDED: Device to display web page on monitors
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:56:02 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeff Miko wrote:
> 
> If anyone can give me some leads I would appreciate it. I am looking for a
> "device" that can connect to the Internet and display a web page on an SVGA
> compatiable monitor. I thought there might be some type of embedded
> Linux/browser device.
> 
> Here is the current "configuration/system" that I would like to replace with
> something more cost effective and stable
>  - Small profile pc configured on LAN via TCP/IP ($400+)
>  - Windows 98 or 2000 (multiple monitor support) ($150+)
>  - Up to 4 video cards ($40-80 per card)
>  - Using Internet Explorer to display web pages
>  - Running 24x7
> 
> If you know of any such device, please send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks,

Maybe qnx is for you:

www.qnx.com

Eric

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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: red hat help
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:57:08 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i have a gateway 633Mhz with a 15 gig HD, 64 mb ram  and windows ME. i
> partitions my hard drive to have 5 megs for linux. when i try to install
> red hat 6.1, i get to disk druid and when i try to assign a root partition
> it says "Boot Partition too big"
> can anyone help?
> Thanx it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

I have been running Red Hat 5.0 and now 6.0 on two machines. The boot
partition does not need to be very big (24 Megabytes is ample). You should
configure the boot partition separately from the root file system partition
so you can be sure you can locate it in the first 1024 cylinders.

Here is how my two drives are layed out:

Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1116 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *         1         3     24097   83  Linux
/dev/sda2             4        20    136552+  82  Linux swap
/dev/sda3            21       275   2048287+  83  Linux
/dev/sda4           276      1116   6755332+   5  Extended
/dev/sda5           276      1116   6755301   83  Linux

Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1116 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *         1       841   6755301   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2           842      1096   2048287+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb3          1097      1113    136552+  82  Linux swap
/dev/sdb4          1114      1116     24097+   5  Extended
/dev/sdb5          1114      1116     24066   83  Linux

Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5              6520175   2026124   4156286  33% /
/dev/sda1                23331     18990      3137  86% /boot
/dev/sdb5                23300     18990      3107  86% /boot2
/dev/sda3              1981000      7641   1870945   0% /data1
/dev/sdb2              1981000      7910   1870676   0% /data2
/dev/sdb1              6520175    383970   5798440   6% /home

This is a change from my other system where I have too many partitions. Were
I to do this one over, I think I would have a separate partition for /var and
/tmp, but I am not sure. (I also have /boot2, which is a copy of /boot, but
on the other drive, on the wrong cylinders, but it is only for backup, and
too much trouble to move it.) /data1 and /data2 usually have a lot more in
them, but I just deleted a database that goes in there.

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 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.network,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Linux users please read !!IMPORTANT!!
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:55:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Visit the following sites to learn how to become rich.
[blahblablah
>

Spamming an anti-spam-NG? Isn't that like putting your head into a
hungry lion's mouth? Well, if somebody is that stupid... [rofl]

Regards
    Peter


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From: Shane Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 4track recording software for linux
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:52:25 +0100

Hello,
a while ago I saw a package for Linux that acted as a 4track studio for
home recording. I think it was open source, but I can't find it any
where and can't remember it's name. Does anyone know of a package like
this? Thanks. Shane.


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From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Accessing an Oracle-Database from Linux
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:52:02 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I want to access an Oracle-database from my linux-workstation with
suse-linux 6.4. Can anybody tell me, which additional software I need
and where I get this software? I already looked at www.suse.de but I
couldn't find an oracle-cleint there.

Thanks for your help

Michael


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Accessing an Oracle-Database from Linux
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:52:02 +0200, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I want to access an Oracle-database from my linux-workstation with
>suse-linux 6.4. Can anybody tell me, which additional software I need
>and where I get this software? I already looked at www.suse.de but I
>couldn't find an oracle-cleint there.

You can download the Oracle software directly from Oracle, you need
to install only the client of course.
Davide


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From: Simon Kongshoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound problem in >= 2.3.99 kernel
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:25:26 GMT

ESounD doesn't seem to be working correctly after I switched to a 2.3.99
kernel, nor with the 2.4.0-test5 I'm using now. My sound card is  
EMU10K1-based, and it worked fine with 2.3.51 and everything below
that. I've tried with both OSS and ALSA emu10k1 modules.

My card does produce recognizable sound, but with extreme degrees of
noise, unless I don't use ESounD, in which case it functions normally
(but, of course, without ESounD's increased functionality). Is this a
known problem, and if so, how can it be fixed?

-- 
Simon Kongshoj - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.cs.auc.dk/~simon
Why have your OS perform illegal actions when you can do it yourself? 


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Subject: Re: rpm disaster
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Masoud Pajoh)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:29 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Snip...
>Anyone have any suggestions for getting it back to some sensible
>state ? I notice their is an rpm --initdb command but I haven't tried
>it yet incase it wipes out what is allready there.
>
I am new at this myself also, but I think there is also rpm --rebuildb.
Have you tried that?

Good luck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: 6 Sep 2000 14:43:32 GMT

In article <%cet5.551$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ingemar Lundin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sparc doesnt run more than a few percent of the worlds servers

Ah, but *which* few percent?  Sure, there are loads of PeeCees running
a little server software with low utilisation.  But the heavy-duty big
fsck-off servers (on which lots of crucial parts of the 'net and many
businesses depend) are usually something else, and Sun has a healthy
share of that market.  Not all servers are equal in importance...

Donal.
-- 
"[He] would have needed to sell not only his own soul, but have somehow gotten
 in on the ground floor of an Amway-like pryamid scheme delivering the souls
 of kindergarten students to Satan by the truckload like so many boxes of Girl
 Scout Cookies."                    -- John S. Novak, III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Marcel Vanormelingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: acroread disable print
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:42:13 GMT

If in Windows one makes a file "config.js" with the contents:
app.hideMenuItem("Print");
app.hideToolbarButton("Print");
and puts this in the Reader\plug_ins\Acroform\JavaScripts directory
the print function is disabled in Acrobat Reader.

For Linux this does not work. According to AcroJS.pdf of the full (
windows) product, config.js has to be in the plug_ins directory for
Unix.

I have only the full product for Windows, and not for Linux.

Can anybody tell me why this does not work with Linux ?

Thanks


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