Linux-Misc Digest #683, Volume #19 Thu, 1 Apr 99 09:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: RPM Errors on installing GNOME. (Ralf Kleineisel)
Re: Linux as a data cruncher --- impossible (steve mcadams)
Re: Database and Wordprocessing apps for console mode? (Karel Jansens)
Re: Questions for the gurus: ("David Z. Maze")
Re: OFF-TOPIC: UserFriendly is down! (**Nick Brown)
Re: IRQ's (**Nick Brown)
Re: Disk partition question (**Nick Brown)
Re: Stealth II videocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver? (L J Bayuk)
Re: Slow ethernet LAN driving me crazy!! ("Stavros C. Kassinos")
Re: Who do you sue FUD (Christopher Michael Jones)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Michael Powe)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows - trees (the green ones) ("MeatHead")
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows - trees (the green ones) (Andreas Schyman)
Re: linux killed modem! (Enkidu)
Can I read a Mac disk? (Charon)
Re: can't be excuted by typing its name ("Alan Graham")
Re: ?Corel Netwinder prices? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Magic sysrq key (Kalle Olavi Niemitalo)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:40:48 +0200
From: Ralf Kleineisel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm,redhat.rpm.general
Subject: Re: RPM Errors on installing GNOME.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On installation, I am encountering errors.
> D: Header + Archive: 98136
> D: Expected size: 569988
> error: enlightenment-0.15.3-5.i386.rpm
>
> Q1. Should the above two numbers match?
Yes.
> Q2. If so, why do they not match?
Do you install from downloaded RPMs or from a bought CD? It might be
a download error or you FTPed in ASCII mode.
> Q3. What should be my next course of action?
Get the full unbroken RPMs.
Do a rpm -qvvp *.rpm and look where the numbers differ.
--
Ralf Kleineisel - Astronomisches Institut - Universitaet Wuerzburg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Linux as a data cruncher --- impossible
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 08:26:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
Harald Kirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Situation:
>
>Linux 2.2.5 on a dual PII box with 512 MB Ram and a large disk.
>
>Trying to write data from AIT on other machine over nfs onto this box.
>
>nfs-options: soft,retrans=2,timeo=7
>
>I get nfs-timeouts which means (if I interprete the docs right) that the
>dual PII-box cannot answer for more than 1.4 seconds. What is it doing
>all that long time.
>
>The network is NOT overloaded.
>
>Harald Kirsch
I'm probably speaking out of turn here, but that's ok. Are you doing
this for something "production", or just for fun? If production, are
you running on a Linux install that you build from source? If not,
why not? If so, have you looked at the source, inserted trace code,
whatever else needed to determine what the problem is?
If it's impossible to use Linux as a data cruncher then there's a bug
or a design problem, plain and simple. Are you looking for someone to
fix them? Are you asking if someone else has seen/resolved this kind
of problem? Are you a troll or a goodguy?
Feel free to flame if you wish, ok by me. Although I like Linux a lot
and I think it has potential, I am not a Linux-zealot. Frankly if I
had not responded to your post I was going to unsubscribe from this
group because I've not been seeing much new stuff lately.
Except an increasing number of bugs/problems as the number of newbies
with expectations that Linux is something it isn't arrive.
______________________________________________________________________________________
"All-Purpose Disclaimer: I be fool you no listen me." http://hideyhole.freeservers.com
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: Database and Wordprocessing apps for console mode?
Date: 1 Apr 1999 12:41:53 GMT
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:58:07, Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snip]
>
> Martin> Also, I asked this once before and was shocked at the
> Martin> answer, so I'm going to ask it again:
>
> Martin> Are there no wordprocessing packages for console mode
> Martin> Linux? (something like Wordstar or WordPerfect for DOS).
>
There _is_ a console version of WordPerfect 8.
Unfortunately, in its infinite wishdom, Corel chose not to make it
available separately. You have to buy WordPerfect 8 Server Edition to get
it and you _don't_ want to know the price of that beastie.
IIRC, there also was a version of WordPerfect 5.1 for UNIX. It was never
compiled for Linux, but I heard people ran it anyway. I remember seeing one
on a computer fair not so long ago. Didnt buy it though, 'cuz I wasn't sure
if it'd run.
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
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"I wonder what'll happen if I do this," mused Stibbons.
..
DON'T YOU WISH NOW YOU HADN'T DONE THAT ?
(Terry Pratchett - Apprentomancer - the B-space collection)
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Questions for the gurus:
Date: 01 Apr 1999 07:56:11 -0500
Jason Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JD> - Even tho I have that mouse utility not running, many times
JD> right-clicking on something does not make it "active". What's up?
"That mouse utility"? "Active"?
JD> - Clicking on the X frequently doesn't close something down. I have to
JD> pick "kill" or "close" from the toolbar to end it. Help?
"The X"? Is this a window-manager decoration? Which window manager
are you using?
JD> - Extra Credit: I read the "man sqrt" and aside from #include <math.h>,
JD> I can't understand how the syntax runs. Can anyone give a super-short
JD> example just to demonstrate the syntax?
Many of the man pages (including everything in sections 2 and 3)
document C functions; sqrt() is one of these. A minimal example of
using it that prints sqrt(2.0) is:
=====BEGIN foo.c
#include <math.h>
#include <stdio.c>
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
double val = sqrt(2.0);
printf("%f\n", val);
return 0;
}
=====END foo.c
gcc -o foo foo.c -lm
./foo
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC: UserFriendly is down!
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:31:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was about to post the same thing... unless it's an April Fool ?
Keith Phillips wrote:
> Well, it had to happen...the UserFriendly comic strip site
> is down, pending legal wrangling.
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IRQ's
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:36:02 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The PC architecture is such that the CPU doesn't know if a particular
device is going to interrupt with IRQ n until it does. Of course, the
OS can usually ask the BIOS which IRQs it has handed out to various
devices, so I'm not sure why cat /proc/interrupts doesn't show up IRQ 3
and 4 on my system.
Incidentally, does anyone else have the problem that when
opening/touching serial ports (eg with Andrew's "setserial -g
/dev/ttyS*"), the X server crashes ?
Andrew Comech wrote:
> Some interrupts are not reported if corresponding devices are
> not in use... I do not know the details.
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk partition question
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:41:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If it's an ext2 partition, DOS won't see it at all. If you format the
third partition, that will be D: in DOS.
Eric Bryant wrote:
> one. In DOS, drive C: is for DOS, but how can I figure out which DOS
> drive Linux is on -- either drive D: or drive E: ?
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stealth II videocard
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:05:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Francis[Mechaman]) wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:46:09 -0500, "Lefebre, Shawn"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I recently bought a Diamond Stealth II 2D/3D video card to replace my
> >Number 9 video card. I needed to change my XConfigurator settings, but
> >can't set it up to run Xwindows with the new card. Does anyone know how
> >I can add support for the card? I am currently running Red Hat 5.1.
If it's a Stealth II S220, then the Xconfigurator that comes with RH 5.1
doesn't have an entry for it. I ended up using Xconfigurator 4.00-6 with the
SVGA server. You can get it here:
http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/XByName.html
Good luck!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver?
Date: 31 Mar 1999 23:23:54 GMT
The "free downloads" from companies like Interbase, Sybase, etc are
certainly a good thing. But I went with PostgreSQL. I would feel
uncomfortable having neither source code nor support.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>For those not aware, Interbase has been available for Linux for some time
>now and it is superb .. www.interbase.com
>
>They have version 4 (I think) as a freeware download - full
>functionality.
>
>- Allen.
>
>>
>> I have played around a little bit with both of them just to get a bit
>> accustomed to databases and SQL. for this purpose of mine MySQL was
>> the better choice: There was all of SQL implemented that I needed and
>> it took considerably less disk-space and main memory (when running)
>> than postgress.
>>
>> I know both of them offer an interface to the WWW so you must check
>> what you want to do and then either check which of the two databases
>> fits your needs better or give the information to someone else (like
>> this NG) to let them make some suggestions to you. (Of course you may
>> combine both sollutions.)
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From: "Stavros C. Kassinos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow ethernet LAN driving me crazy!!
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:33:11 -0800
Hi thank you for your response Bob.
This is a new setup that never worked at the correct speed.
In the meantime I have done some additional testing and here are some
new facts:
When I ftp from client to server I get 5kb/sec. When I ftp from server
to client I get .7Mb/sec. An assymetric problem as you describe.
I run ping "ping -f -s 100", "ping -f -s 200" etc. between the two
machines and I get inceasing packet loss with increasing packet size.
Loss gets upto 35% -- too high. I also get duplicates.
On the client box, Ifconfig gives some frame errors:
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:27:4D:36
inet addr:192.168.0.27 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2705 errors:179 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:179
The cards on the two machines
Server: eth0 to ISP Kingston 110TX using tulip driver
eth1 to LAN 3com 3c905
Client: eth0 to LAN LinkSys EtherFast 110TX (LNE 100) using Tulip
driver.
Thank you for you help and any new ideas :)
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Stavros C. Kassinos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > PROBLEM: The connection, even the local one just between Box-1 and
> > Box-2, is slow. FTP transfer rates are only 1-5Kb/sec!!
>
> Did it ever work, or is this a new problem? If it never worked
> I would look first at configuration...is routing correct, are you
> seeing errors in /var/log/messages, does ifconfig show the
> correct setup for the card, etc.
>
> If it used to work and just quit, it's probably hardware. I had
> something like it happen when one of my ethernet cards decided it
> didn't need to generate interrupts. The weird thing was that the
> slowness was not symmetric. 1->2 was faster than 2->1.
>
> It could also be a bad cable, bad hub, or gremlins.
>
> --
> 15:15:00 up 36 days, 5:38, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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| Office: (650)-723-0546 |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Jones)
Subject: Re: Who do you sue FUD
Date: 1 Apr 1999 08:58:53 GMT
Jim Hill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've been watching events unfold with the Melissa macro fiasco this
> weekend and I'm thinking to myself that if the "Companies want someone
> they can sue when things go wrong" argument holds any water at all, then
> we should probably see a lot of suits filed against Microsoft because of
> the "virus" spread by a combination of Outlook Exchange, Word, and
> Windows. We'll see that, right? Companies that wanted someone to sue
> will sue, won't they?
Unlikely, since all of the product have easy to identify
switches to (for example) toggle whether or not you can
run macros, toggle macro virus protection, etc.
Check "Tools:Options:General:Macro Virus Protection".
Or, just type in "macro virus" or "virus" as a question
to office assistant to get info. on how to turn this on.
--
============================================================
Chris Jones
My Web Page - "http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/~cjones/web/"
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 31 Mar 1999 20:36:39 -0800
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>>>>> "Ewan" == Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ewan> On 31 Mar 1999, Michael Powe wrote:
Harry> Life's too short for vi.
>> True, that's why you should be using emacs.
Ewan> Let's not start a religious war here.
Hmm, I thought it already was one. ;-)
Ewan> Besides `emacs
Ewan> /etc/hosts` sorta seems like overkill...
That's another thread. (Why you would want to exit emacs?) But, for
the occasional small stuff, I use JED, because it uses emacs
keybindings.
mp
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From: "MeatHead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows - trees (the green ones)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:16:28 -0600
Steve Conover wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
t>...
>People who don't like off-topic posts can stop reading here.
>
>Just as an unrelated aside, pulp trees are grown and cut down to make
paper.
>They don't go around cutting down redwoods or anything to make those reams.
>Pulp trees have a lifespan of approx 15 yrs, they usually cut them down in
7
>years, and they replant something like 3 for every 1 they cut down. Not
like
>that matters much.
>
>So you're not doing anyone any favors by conserving paper, unless you're
>concerned about landfills. Which is still pointless, since there's so much
>space that's deviod of humanity that the landfill companies own...it's
really
>mindboggling.
>
>Environmentalists are generally the most idiotic and short-sighted people I
>meet anyway (that wasn't aimed at you, just a random flame), everything is
a
>zero-sum game to them. I advise against listening to them, especially ones
>named Al Gore and Paul Kennedy.
>
>-Steve, bracing for the off-topic flames.
You can just bag that stuff about the trees, and the earth being one big
land fill. WTF. But I do agree that Al Gore is not to be believed. He has
proven himself to be untrustworthy in many of the claims he makes about
himself. Like being responsible for the internet and growing up on a farm,
etc...
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From: Andreas Schyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows - trees (the green ones)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:37:18 +0000
Steve Conover wrote:
>
> People who don't like off-topic posts can stop reading here.
>
> Just as an unrelated aside, pulp trees are grown and cut down to make paper.
> They don't go around cutting down redwoods or anything to make those reams.
> Pulp trees have a lifespan of approx 15 yrs, they usually cut them down in 7
> years, and they replant something like 3 for every 1 they cut down. Not like
> that matters much.
>
> So you're not doing anyone any favors by conserving paper, unless you're
> concerned about landfills. Which is still pointless, since there's so much
> space that's deviod of humanity that the landfill companies own...it's really
> mindboggling.
Well, if what you were saying about the 1:3-relation is true we would be
having a hell of a lot of trees, and the number of trees would be
rising. Now, since that isn't happening around the world, I guess that
even you must admit that you are wrong. Maybe what you say is true in a
very small area, but then it is insignificant when compared to the rest
of the world.
And following your reasoning I come to the conclusion that the earth is
to be considered a production plant that should produce stuff for you so
that you could live here and abuse it. If you are prepared to open your
mind a bit you would find that trees are good for stuff other than
producing paper so that you can wipe your ass. They are increasing the
production of oxygen and decreasing all the carbondioxide that you
exhale. (Eventhough the ocean is a much bigger source of oxygen, the
trees do their part) They are by reducing the amount of CO2 reducing the
gasses that contribute to the hole in the ozone layer and the global
warming.
Trees do also provide a diversified ecologically correct environment for
a lot of other species living here that share the earth with us.
If you want to check up on this you will find that I am right, but when
reading what you have written I conclude that you are the kind of person
that already have made up your mind and decided that you have the right
to exploit earth and to leave nothing for the forthcoming generations. I
guess that decision is built in a inner conflict of consiuons and
comfort/egoism, and if the last part in you win, then you become hard to
convince in anything different.
The main purpose of this response isn't to convince you, but to convince
readers of you posting that aren't as firm, that you aren't right. And I
suggest to the reader to take deeper look into the subject before making
up his/her mind. Afterall ignorance made WW2 possible.
I am sorry that I can't mail this directly to the author, since he has
been too scared to leave his real e-adress.
And if you are to come with comments on the subject, please come with
intellegent ones... please?
Andreas.
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux killed modem!
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:22:57 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You won't assassinate a modem by software. You may make it unusable
by scrambling the settings. Set them back to factory default, which
should work in a basic manner then see what you need to add to make
it whizz. Look at you ppp script and see what setting it sent to the
modem. One of them probably upset your connection and another saved
the bum config back into the modem.
Cliff
bill wrote:
>
> i finally put mandrake on my home cyrix box. it is w98/linux. after i
> set up modem using kppp it dialed out once and then it wouldn't work
> again. i rebooted and went thru set-up but kept getting modem not go. i
> booted to w98 and it too said modem not working. re-installed
> modem...ditto. its an internal x2 clone with ti chip. not a winmodem. i
> guess i got spoilt running linux at work on network and thought modem
> wouldn't be an issue. now i'm wondering if it was some config setting or
> something or just a hinky modem. i don't want to keep putting modems in
> there and having them die. i got the modem list from
> www.o2.net/~gromitke/winmodem.html, but i'm still concerned that i'll
> assassinate a new one. suggestions! thanks, bg
> --
> __o
> _`\<,_
> (_)/ (_)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Charon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can I read a Mac disk?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:28:10 -0600
I have Red Hat 5.1, is it possible to mount a Macintosh disk? Is so,
how?
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From: "Alan Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: can't be excuted by typing its name
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:17:54 +0800
Be aware that when you do this you are opening up a potential security hole.
Bash (and sh, and ksh...) deliberately leave the current directory off the
path, as having it there opens up the possibilty of trojan horse attacks.
I've always thought that you're pretty safe if the current directory is the
last directory in the path tho'...
Alan Graham
Tim Dixon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Sure!
>
>All you need to do is put the directory . in your path. DOS/Windows/etc
>include the current directory in the path by default; Bash does not.
>
>--
>
>Timothy Dixon, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Variety is the spice of Linux. Oppose the LSB.
>
>Dennis Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Please help....
>>
>> I just set up a linux server, and when I try to excute a C excutable
>> file, said, "a.out", by just typing
>> a.out at prompt, it failed with a statment like "bash: a.out: commad not
>> found". But when I type
>> "./a.out", the file is excuted successfully.
>> Can someone tell me how to fix that so I can excute that a.out by
>> just typing a.out
>>
>> Thanks a million
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: ?Corel Netwinder prices?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:30:29 GMT
On 1 Apr 1999 05:44:57 GMT, Michael Faurot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: I'm the one who started this thread, basically because I could NOT find
>: any info as to Netwinder models, specs, prices etc. at the
>: corelcomputer.com or hcc.ca sites. And they got such great exposure in
>: Linux Journal this month!
>
>: I'm not sure I want to spend even $400 for a computer made by a company
>: so lame it can't even put some info up about them.
>
>When I investigated the Corel web pages last year, there was plenty of
>info on the Netwinders including pricing for the development system.
>I am, by no means, an appologist for them, but I suspect it's just a
>transitional problem going from Corel to the new company.
Take a look at most recent Ottawa Citizen;
<http://www.ottawacitizen.com/frontpage.html>
It has an article on some recent policies at Corel that do not sound to bode
well for the Netwinder division.
Be a little skeptical; the Citizen doesn't always get "techie" things
perfectly right, but it sure sounds like Corel is trying to do anything they
can, and "thrashing around" as it were...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Magic sysrq key
Date: 01 Apr 1999 16:21:46 +0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:
> Is there a way to force the screen from graphics to text mode?
Killing and restarting X might help. KGI is supposed to be
capable of this too; I haven't tried.
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:47:34 -0500
> Windows NT 4 file selection dialogs suck so bad
> it makes me want to SCREAM every time I have to
> try and figure out which drives are what on the
> Novell LAN
Now, maybe that's delibarate!
> Since you seemed to be describing things in terms
> of Windows being acceptable and Linux not, that
> seemed a natural direction.
I'm not sure to what extent the underlying OS affects
the quality of the GUI (beyond the obvious stuff, such
as having to provide bug-free system calls). I've seen
plenty of badly-written software on Windows.
Harry
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