Linux-Misc Digest #435, Volume #18 Sat, 2 Jan 99 03:13:07 EST
Contents:
Progetto (Pegasus)
Re: Easy UNIX editor ("James A. Cleland")
Re: ODBC (Alan Greig)
2nd PCI Ethernet Card Problem (Greg Bastian)
Re: CD ripper for linux? (Peter S. Frouman)
NOSPAM in addresses.. ("Michael Lee Yohe")
Re: Best Free Unix? (Dave Brown)
Xwindow problem (Kenneth Taylor)
Re: Best Free Unix? (Robert Watson)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Michael Powe)
Re: Best Free Unix? (Ken Deboy)
Re: Partitioning - NT WON'T BOOT! ("dingo")
Re: Iomega ZIP & Red Hat 5.1 (Jim Traweek)
Re: Install KDE (Jack)
Re: Apache web server on 5.1 ("Donald K. Tyler")
Re: Apache web server on 5.1 (Wintermute)
Re: Intellectual Property DANGER! (Re: DVD driver) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: du and df give different results (Laurent Martelli)
Re: ODBC ("John Kos")
Re: engineering practices in Linux/OSS (Philip Brown)
Re: Some GPL financial software I wrote now on my site (Robin Becker)
Re: What is the relationship between make and the kernel?I (Paul Hebble)
Re: What is the relationship between make and the kernel?I (brian moore)
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From: Pegasus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Progetto
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:48:25 GMT
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PROGETTO!
LEGGIMI CON ATTENZIONE SENZA SALTARE NEMMENO UNA PAROLA E�
E� sufficiente trovare 10 / 15 persone (ti spiegher� poi come) che
abbiano una buona apertura mentale e l�intelligenza di
comprendere un metodo matematico infallibile. Di primo acchito si
potrebbe avere l�impressione di avventurarsi in un progetto
impossibile. Io ti garantisco che lavorando poche ore al computer si
raggiungono risultati inimmaginabili, io sono un�agente di
commercio da vent�anni, negli ultimi mesi ho dedicato moltissimo tempo a
questo progetto - all�inizio ero scettico ma i risultati
mi hanno fatto cambiare opinione � oggi, comodamente seduto a casa mia,
raggiungo risultati di reddito migliori di quelli che
ottenevo lavorando 12-14 ore al giorno sempre in auto e alle prese con
clienti che�
In Internet ci sono ogni giorno migliaia di nuovi ingressi, migliaia di
persone che come noi navigano alla ricerca di informazioni,
contatti, amicizie e a volte ci sfiorano opportunit� che non cogliamo
perch� presi dalle mille preoccupazioni e attivit� quotidiane.
Questo progetto funziona benissimo per tutti ma pi� ancora a chi
lavorando in ufficio ha modo di usare il computer e conosce
molte persone anche al di fuori dell�azienda per cui lavora e il
passaparola � la migliore pubblicit�. Io lo faccio da casa.
Avventurarti in questo progetto non ti coster� nulla e ti far�
guadagnare moltissimo, con i primi risultati ti accorgerai che
diventer� per te una �droga� e impegnerai sempre pi� tempo in modo
piacevole e autonomo, non dovrai MAI rendere conto (se
non a te stesso) del tuo operato a NESSUNO! Se questo mio messaggio ti
ha incuriosito scrivimi e ti dar� le necessarie
istruzioni per iniziare il progetto.
Nella richiesta di informazioni come oggetto metti PROGETTO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ciao a presto. PEGASUS
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<B><FONT COLOR="#3333FF">PROGETTO!</FONT></B>
<BR><B><FONT COLOR="#3333FF">LEGGIMI CON ATTENZIONE SENZA SALTARE NEMMENO
UNA PAROLA E�</FONT></B>
<BR>E� sufficiente trovare 10 / 15 persone (ti spiegherò poi come)
che abbiano una buona apertura mentale e l�intelligenza di
<BR>comprendere un metodo matematico infallibile. Di primo acchito si potrebbe
avere l�impressione di avventurarsi in un progetto
<BR>impossibile. Io ti garantisco che lavorando poche ore al computer si
raggiungono risultati inimmaginabili, io sono un�agente di
<BR>commercio da vent�anni, negli ultimi mesi ho dedicato moltissimo tempo
a questo progetto - all�inizio ero scettico ma i risultati
<BR>mi hanno fatto cambiare opinione � oggi, comodamente seduto a casa
mia, raggiungo risultati di reddito migliori di quelli che
<BR>ottenevo lavorando 12-14 ore al giorno sempre in auto e alle prese
con clienti che�
<BR>In Internet ci sono ogni giorno migliaia di nuovi ingressi, migliaia
di persone che come noi navigano alla ricerca di informazioni,
<BR>contatti, amicizie e a volte ci sfiorano opportunità che non
cogliamo perché presi dalle mille preoccupazioni e attività
quotidiane.
<BR>Questo progetto funziona benissimo per tutti ma più ancora a
chi lavorando in ufficio ha modo di usare il computer e conosce
<BR>molte persone anche al di fuori dell�azienda per cui lavora e il passaparola
è la migliore pubblicità. Io lo faccio da casa.
<BR>Avventurarti in questo progetto non ti costerà nulla e ti farà
guadagnare moltissimo, con i primi risultati ti accorgerai che
<BR>diventerà per te una �droga� e impegnerai sempre più
tempo in modo piacevole e autonomo, non dovrai MAI rendere conto (se
<BR>non a te stesso) del tuo operato a NESSUNO! Se questo mio messaggio
ti ha incuriosito scrivimi e ti darò le necessarie
<BR>istruzioni per iniziare il progetto.
<P>Nella richiesta di informazioni come oggetto metti PROGETTO
<BR><A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
<P><I>Ciao a presto. PEGASUS</I>
<P>--
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From: "James A. Cleland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Easy UNIX editor
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:45:32 GMT
Alan Vlach wrote:
> Doesn't *anybody* like NEdit?
> That's what I use. It comes closest to behaving like Edit.app on a
> NeXT.
>
> Just my $.02.
>
> --Alan Vlach
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> N. Richard Caldwell wrote:
> >
> > In article <72clf2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >Lionel Parker wrote in message <72b2gi$om1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >>I have to go along with this. vi uses less keystrokes than any other
> > >>editor I know. As a ratshit typist this is most inportant to me.
> > >
> > >Well, actually there is one bug/feature in vi that drove me nuts:
> > >To insert *ONE* character you have to type *THREE* keys: "i", the character,
> > >and "ESC".
> >
> > Inserting one character is a worst case proposition for vi. Whatever
> > time you lose in those rare instances is recouped 1000 times over
> > during normal use simply because it's so efficient in most other
> > respects.
> >
> > --
> > N. Richard Caldwell
> > Lucent Technologies
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use NEdit alot for code. I have a pretty good vi sense, but I don't feel the
need to do a whole lot of vi while I have a window manager running. Plus, so many
editors can handle the most commonly used regex stuff for searches, etc, why
torture yourself with something you don't like? I, too, have seen some people
sling emacs around like a rag doll, pretty impressive. Hey, if you want to get
started with it, it certainly isn't limited. It just never stuck to me. I've got
lot's of code yet to write, so there's still hope...
James
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From: Alan Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: ODBC
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:49:22 GMT
Kai-Uwe Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am searching for an ODBC-Driver which allows me to connect from a Linux
> client to a VMS Server which runs RMS databases. I just need the reading
> access over TCP/IP. Does anyone nows a software/tool to do that ?
>
Definitely RMS and not RDB databases? Then ISG navigator should do it as
others have mentioned. If it's RDB databases then ISG navigator will still
work but you might prefer to use the Oracle ODBC driver for RDB. You could
use RDB transparent gateway to RMS even if they are simple RMS files but this
would be ludicrously expensive if you don't actually have RDB.
Come to think of it I'm not sure that ISG supports Linux. Oracle does but I
shudder to think of the cost of installing Oracle, SQL/Net, RDB and
transparent gateway just to access RMS files.
But looking at it another way depending on what you actually need to do this
could be as simple as a few lines of DCL running under UCX's inetd server.
It's easy to read/write RMS files in DCL passing args to/from SYS$NET.
Oracle on www.oracle.com ISG www.isgsoft.com
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks
> Kai-Uwe
--
Alan Greig
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From: Greg Bastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,aus.computers.linux
Subject: 2nd PCI Ethernet Card Problem
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:45:16 GMT
Hi All,
I have a RH 5.2 machine with two D-Link DFE-530TX 10/100 card, however,
I cannot get the machine to recognise the second card.
I have successfully had either card working, but not both.
I have an "append ether=0,0,eth0 ether=0,0,eth1" in my lilo.conf
I have
alias eth0 via-rhine
alias eth1 via-rhine
in my conf.modules.
On bootup, the eth0 is initialised, but I get a
Delaying Eth1 initialization
for the eth1 interface.
Any help available ?
Greg.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: CD ripper for linux?
Date: 2 Jan 1999 06:50:51 GMT
On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 03:59:27 GMT, Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My wife was kind enough to get me an MP3 player for my birthday. However,
>the only tools I've found for creating mp3's from audio CD's run on
>Win95/98. Are there any decent tools for doing this under linux that
>I've missed?
There are many cdrippers and mp3 encoders available for Linux, including
dagrab,cdda2wav,cdparanoia and bladeenc, l3enc, mpegenc, 8hz-mp3 (no
longer distributed due to license problems). A good list of tools for cd
ripping and mp3 encoding under Linux can be found at:
Dam's Linux MP3 Page - http://www.emi.u-bordeaux.fr/~morel/index2.html
--
-Peter Frouman | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Zippy says:
I'm mentally OVERDRAWN! What's that SIGNPOST up ahead? Where's ROD
STERLING when you really need him?
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From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NOSPAM in addresses..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:47:50 GMT
Gee, guys - I guess it's not really a known fact that common email gatherer
programs know to strip out "nospam" "antispam" and other "spam" references
from your addresses. Be a little creative or just lay out your email
address plain n' simple.
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* Michael Lee Yohe Office: TH N318 *
* UAH ASPIRE System Administrator Office: 256-890-6904 *
* UAH CS Assistant Administrator Home: 256-828-2667 *
* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.aspire.cs.uah.edu/mlyohe *
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Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Jan 99 06:09:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>...
>Both RH 5.2 and FreeBSD are good choices. One choice that you many not
>have considered is Solaris. Sun is promoting the latest version of
>Solaris X86 for some ridiculously low price (I believe it's $10 or somesuch).
>While it's not as friendly out of the box as FreeBSD and Linux, it might
>be worth a look just for grins.
>
>Chris
Yeah, and SCO, too. Only problem is: you can't afford any Desktop
applications software that runs on them.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 22:52:38 -0600
From: Kenneth Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xwindow problem
Hi
I need some help please.
I just got started on using the XFree86 and I'm having problems getting
the XF86Config file set up to work with the equipment I have
I have checked the FAQs and also all documentation I can find sofare
A Orchid Technology Farenheit PRO-64-PCI vidio card
which has the S3 Vision 964 chipset and the
BT485akpj135 RamDAC chip.
and the IC Designs 2061ASC-1 ClockChip.
The card has 4 Meg of memory
The Monitor I'm Using is a Micron 700FGx
with the following resolution modes 640 x480, 720X400, 800x600,
1024x768, and 1280x1024
bandwith is 86MHz
Horizontal Sync. 30 - 69KHz
Vertical Sync. 50 - 120 Hz
I'm running RED HAT 5.2
With everything I have done all I can get out of it is A black screen or
the X mouse Cursor on a black screen.
If there is anything that you can do to help me please help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Watson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix?
Date: 2 Jan 1999 06:42:13 GMT
The subject line says it all: Best Free(BSD) Unix?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 01 Jan 1999 21:26:14 -0800
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>>>>> "Doug" == Doug Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Doug> Douglas E. Mitton wrote in message
Doug> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> From a personal experience the spam became very over-powering.
>> When I first got on the net (first ISP) I didn't take any
>> precautions and I rapidly became swamped by spam, 8+ pieces per
>> day, some very large and...
Doug> I've had similar experiences. (like, a mailbox that was
Doug> literally over 90% spam before I started munging my address)
The usenet standard requires a From: line that specifies a real
address. Munged addresses are a violation of the standard. The fact
that you are allowed to violate the standard at will does not make the
existence of such a standard less significant.
There's really no excuse for any linux user to not be using procmail
to sort spam. There at least 1/2 dozen prebuilt "spam fighter" setups
available. You don't have to be a tech genius to use them.
The real point is, what you are doing does nothing to stop spam.
Nothing. You put your head in the sand -- "I don't see it, therefore
it must not exist."
I use my real address in usenet posts and always have. I get maybe
one or two spammail in my inbox a week. Every few days, I check my
spam folder and throw out whatever junk has accumulated there. I used
to forward them to my ISP spam-fighting unit, but they've
"reorganized" and aren't doing that any more. I have yet to devise an
alternative program. But I will.
Doug> It'd be great if my neighbors & I could leave our houses
Doug> unlocked when we weren't home, and borrow each other's tools
Doug> as necessary. Unfortunately, burglars have ensured that if
It'd be great if everyone in the community would work together to keep
the neighborhood clean.
mp
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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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- --
Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 23:17:18 -0800
From: Ken Deboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix?
Just got my copy of Solaris...
As you mention, the price is ridiculously low. As far as installation
I found it easier to install than FreeBSD. The problem with it is the
licensing terms. As long as you're using it on a single system it's ok,
but for anything else the price (of a legal license) is very high. I do
think it's a nice system, but except for ease of installation, I don't
see any advantage over FreeBSD (or Linux).
Chris Mauritz wrote:
-- snip --
> Both RH 5.2 and FreeBSD are good choices. One choice that you many
> not have considered is Solaris. Sun is promoting the latest version
> of Solaris X86 for some ridiculously low price (I believe it's $10
> or somesuch). While it's not as friendly out of the box as FreeBSD
> and Linux, it might be worth a look just for grins.
>
> Chris
> --
> Christopher Mauritz
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partitioning - NT WON'T BOOT!
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:10:50 GMT
I had the same problem. The thing is, IF the directory \WINNT is on an
extended partition, AND a new primary partition gets defined, the partition
*number* for the extended partition goes up by one. You can edit boot.ini to
solve the problem, incrementing "partition(n)" by one, where n=system
partition. Then the OS will find the kernel.
A.G. wrote in message <76gjl9$ju4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I installed a couple of new linux partitions on my HD, and NT refuses to
>load now.
>It says that ntoskrnl.exe is corrupt or missing.
>
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From: Jim Traweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP & Red Hat 5.1
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 01:04:44 -0800
Yeh. I had the same problem as of yesterday. I did (quick start, HowTo)
.....
insmod ppa
mkdir /zip
mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /zip
cd /zip
then try df . or whatever to see if you have about 98meg on the zip
disk. good.
yoyo... (you're on your own)
Always umount /zip or i suspect you'll leave a useless zip dir behind.
There's other things you can do to not have to do this at every boot
session. look thru comp os linux hardware for a posting about zips where
this guy put /dev/hda4 on /mnt/zip in fstab and formats the disk.
Hope it helps. I read for days and days
and...............................and have a disk in the drive when u boot.
Teo Chun Lip wrote:
> I had a parallel port ZIP attach to lpt1 of the printer port.
>
> I do not know how to install or get Red Hat 5.1 to recognise it.
>
> Mounting /dev/lp1 is not possible as it said lp1 is not a block device.
>
> In Redhat 5.1 I access the installation floppy of Iomega
>
> but the only file/dir is lost+found;
> What does it mean? lost+found
>
> Hope somebody can guide me to install this ZIP drive
> because I read some where that ZIP can be used in Linux
>
> What is it file system?
>
> Thank you for any reply and suggestion.
> Will appreciate if you could e-mail me straight
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From: Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Install KDE
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 17:58:45 -0400
Ok .
I have the same problem.
The problem is kde desktop require a adisional library (lib).
You firt go to cd1 go X11 , X11R6 and intall the XFree86-devel.rpm
Then you installed the Xfree86-devel go to mount the bonus cd , and
install the qt-libraries ,after install the kde-libraries, and then
install the
kde programas.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Ehonda wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> I got a CheapBytes Red Hat 5.2 CD with bonus KDE program
> which is not in the RPM package.
> Kindly advise how to install the program step by step.
> Any help is highly appreciated.
>
> A Very Happy New Year
>
> Thanks
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From: "Donald K. Tyler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Apache web server on 5.1
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:44:44 GMT
http://www.apache.org
Dwane Smith wrote:
> Any one know of a good and easy howto on setting
> up apache on redhat 5.1. It is install and running but can't
> not access it from www.
>
> Thanks
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From: Wintermute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Apache web server on 5.1
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:45:25 GMT
I would recommend http://www.jlk.net/
They have more material for the beginner.
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Donald K. Tyler wrote:
:http://www.apache.org
:
:Dwane Smith wrote:
:
:> Any one know of a good and easy howto on setting
:> up apache on redhat 5.1. It is install and running but can't
:> not access it from www.
:>
:> Thanks
:
:
:
:
:
Sincerely,
Wintermute
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.app
Subject: Re: Intellectual Property DANGER! (Re: DVD driver)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:38:11 GMT
In article <737s1k$4j8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Frank T. Lofaro"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Implement an open-source MPEG2 alternative? Patent infringement of
> MPEG.
>
> See the www.mpegla.com site.
Well, of course it is in their interest to claim that they hold
"essential" patents for an implementation of MPEG2. However,
reality is likely to be a bit different and there are probably
workarounds. Note that a non-infringing decoder does
not need to claim standards compliance; it simply has
to produce good output. Furthermore, the patents don't
apply everywhere in the world.
Tom.
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From: Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: du and df give different results
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:38:39 GMT
Veksler Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.os.linux.development.system
> Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My partition mounted on /usr is reported as full by `df', but if I do
> > a `du' on /usr I get a very much different result. I also check it
> > with e2fsck to see if it wasn't short of inodes, but it seems to be
> > ok.
>
> > I am using kernel 2.1.131
>
> > Any idea my my disk space may have gone ? Am I missing something ?
> > Have I found a bug ?
>
> [lot of info snipped]
>
> Consider the scenario:
> $ (dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024k count=128; sleep 1h) > log &
>
> Great, now your disk gets this 128MB log file.
> $ rm log
>
> You remove the file, right? Well, not exactly. The file can no longer be
> accessed from your file system (not counted by du), but the offending
> process can still write/read this file (which df is aware of). The file
> will get removed only when this process dies.
> $ killall sleep
>
> will probably kill this process, and free your disk space (not recommended
> since it may kill some useful sleep processes :-).
>
> I guess that this is your problem (or else you have some major disk
> corruption - not likely)
I did an e2fsck on the partition, and it turned out that a great many
inodes had a wring dtime, and that inode counting was wrong almost
everywhere. The number of free inodes was smaller than what it should
have been. Which explains the difference between du and df, since I
guess that df uses the sub-totals for performance reasons.
However, I doubt that your description corresponds to my problem. I
doubt that I had some process like that one. In fact, df seemes to
give constant results as long as nothing is written on the disk. I
reinstalled my debian 2.0, and still had the same effect. So I tried
to install and remove a package several times. Free space was
narrowing. This was with kernel 2.1.131. I'll try with a 2.0.xx and
see how it behaves.
--
Laurent Martelli
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From: "John Kos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: ODBC
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 06:48:37 GMT
Contact Easysoft http://www.easysoft.com who have a solution.
John Kos
Kai-Uwe Schmidt wrote in message <74pekk$3c8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I am searching for an ODBC-Driver which allows me to connect from a Linux
>client to a VMS Server which runs RMS databases. I just need the reading
>access over TCP/IP. Does anyone nows a software/tool to do that ?
>
>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanks
>Kai-Uwe
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: engineering practices in Linux/OSS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:39:34 GMT
On 12 Dec 1998 06:36:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>When those I receive files from upgrade, I can't tell them to send me
>it in an older format!
why the heck not?
All you do is send it back to them, which will open up their program.
Then ask then to "save as", and send it back.
you can put in a jab about your department "not feeling the need to waste
money on pointless upgrades" if you like.
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Some GPL financial software I wrote now on my site
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:23:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Estess
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan
>> >Panteltje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> >>I have put some financial software I wrote on my site.
>> >>The first program gets close prices from the net,
>> >>the other displays these.
>> >>This last program can do a few more things as well.
>> >>
>
>> Try downloading by just clicking on the link.
>> If it dumps garbage on your screen, press stop in netscape.
>> then select 'save as' from the file menu.
>> That should pop up the little file download window.
>> Sorry, nothing I can change about this (could be netscape).
>
>This is usually solved with a Shift-RightClick. Don't ask me why.
Linux Netscape didn't corrupt; under win95 seems it does. weird;
probably changing lf ->crlf
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Robin Becker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hebble)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: What is the relationship between make and the kernel?I
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:22:02 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.apps, Jim Woomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What other stuff do I have to load in, or what I'm I missing?
Well, for starters, that "2.0.34" you mentioned is the version of the
kernel, and only the kernel. Unless they weirded up the slackware
versioning while I wasn't looking.
What is it you're trying to compile?
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Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: What is the relationship between make and the kernel?I
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:22:06 GMT
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:24:01 -0500,
Jim Woomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently upgraded from slackware 1.2.13 t o 2.0.34 - well not all of
> 2.0.34 - at first just the kernel.
> That seems to create a problem with my ability to use GNU make.
> For example, when I
> make all ( or any target )
> I get an error to the effect "no rule for make all"
> I can
> make -f Makefile all
> but it only works at the top level - as soon as it goes into a
> sub-directory I get the same error.
Yep, it will do that.
> So I figure I probably should update some other stuff - like the GNU
> stuff and libc from the 2.0.34 release. Which I did. Remade the kernel
> ( of course running from the 1.2.13 kernel ) Same error.
And make itself?
> Now what puzzles me is when I boot from a 1.2.13 boot disk I have now
> problem at all. So apparently there is this connection between the
> kernel and make.
There is.
> I know - I know - I can get the 2.0.34 for a buck ninty eight. But that
> wouldn't be any fun. What's the sense of running Linux without the
> suffering.
>
> Besides I really want to know the connection.
>
> What other stuff do I have to load in, or what I'm I missing?
>From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes:
| Make
| ====
|
| If make no longer works, you need to read the release notes for the
| libc you upgraded to. The latest libc and release notes can be found at
| ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC. This is NOT an error due
| to the kernel, though many people have mistakenly thought it is. When
| you upgrade to libc-5.3.9, you have to patch make to get it to work.
| All of this is documented in the release notes with libc. Upgrading
| libc can also break xterm support. If it does, you need to recompile
| xterm.
I'd borrow a CD.
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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