Linux-Misc Digest #435, Volume #20 Mon, 31 May 99 17:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (Jim Richardson)
Re: telnet in as root? ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Mircea)
Re: Can I use RPM in Slackware? (Mircea)
AtGuard-style program? (Chris Dahler)
Re: Imap / Pop3 Daemons (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: emacs questions (Jim Richardson)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Jim Richardson)
Re: SETI comparisons ("D. Vrabel")
Fibre Channel on Linux (RAID) Driver ? (Marco BANO)
Re: bind 8.2 $TTL value? ("D. Vrabel")
Re: vfat not supported!? (Jayasuthan [VorHacker])
SuSE 6.1 - mp3's and RealPlayer(G2) (Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Michael Powe)
Re: xterm & background processes (Neil Montgomery)
smp box with gus freezes during x11amp playing (Jens Olav Nygaard)
Sierra poll
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Michael Powe)
CALL ME NOW !!! 1-473-408-8317 ("MONEY")
Re: startx on new kernel ??? (Jayasuthan [VorHacker])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Date: 31 May 1999 18:30:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 30 May 1999 01:28:40 GMT,
Christopher B. Browne, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>On Sat, 29 May 1999 20:35:30 GMT, Matthew Bafford
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>>On Sat, 29 May 1999 13:50:59 +0200, Gero H. Marten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>held some poor sysadmin at gun point while typing in the following:
>>: Under Linux you don't need an offline reader
>>: (infact they don't exist). You set up your own newsserver with INN
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>: or leafnode.
>>
>>Gosh, just as you wrote it, slrnpull and slrn disappeared off of my
>>machine.
>
>slrnpull is a tool for maintaining a news spool, and not a news reader.
>
>Slrn is a news reader that can read news via NNTP and news spools, and
>is not formally an "offline" reader. It does no offline-associated
>work.
>
>Note that slrn may be used in conjunction with Leafnode, much as other
>newsreaders may be used in conjunction with Leafnode and slrnpull to
>combine to represent, *as an aggregate,* the *equivalent* to an
>offline news reader.
>
>Furthermore, even using a "strict" definition, it is still incorrect
>to say that offline news readers do not exist on Linux, as I am aware
>of two examples of such.
>
>There is a commercial one that "owes a design debt" to Agent, and
>there is GNUS, which can do things with news that you probably
>couldn't have imagined were possible :-).
>
There is also KRN, which is still buggy, but mostly usable. (Although lacks
many features I have come to enjoy from slrn.)
GNUS is of course. well, GNUS.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: telnet in as root?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:13:03 +0100
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Giandomenico De Tullio wrote:
> > > Need to modify your /etc/securetty file by adding ttyp0 to allow you to
> > > telnet in as root
>
> REMOVE /etc/securetty ... or install SSH! :)
Won't the prevent you logging in as root from the console?
> I prefer ssh !
ssh is the recommended method.
David Vrabel
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:16:20 -0400
To use the RP as plugin, you must put the rvplayerplugin.so and the java
classes in your $HOME/.netscape/plugins directory, not in
/usr/local/netscape/plugins.
MST
Michael Powe wrote:
>
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>
> Is it possible to use RealPlayer for a plugin in Netscrape in linux?
> I tried to follow the instructions for setting it up but they are not
> accurate, as they seem to be written for an earlier version of NS.
> However, I did put the class files & the .so file in the "plugins"
> directory as the directions indicate.
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use RPM in Slackware?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:13:05 -0400
The current directory (./) isn't in your default path. You must specify
it when you use programs from the directory you're in, e.g. use
./filename instead of filename. Or type the complete path.
MST
Beed wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I downloaded RPM Software and installed it. everything went
> fine. but, When I tried to installed a software with RPM extension, I
> always got a message saying that there file can't be found? anyone has
> any ideas as to why this is happening? Thank you in advance.
>
> Jack
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From: Chris Dahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AtGuard-style program?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:16:44 GMT
Under Windows, I have successfully used a program called AtGuard to
block ad banners and cookies and other unwanted items from web sites.
It's a great tool. Does anyone know of a similar program for use with
Linux?
Chris Dahler
chris dot dahler at gte dot net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Imap / Pop3 Daemons
Date: 31 May 1999 18:43:14 GMT
In article <7itf1d$2ir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Villy Kruse wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>There is an rpm called imap*.rpm on the RedHat cd and ftp sites. Maybe
>>you didn't install it? It contains imap, pop2, and pop3 daemons.
>>
>
>
>It is too easy to miss this package as it is not part of the standard
>install, but must be installed separately later with rpm from the
>/mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS directory (or use glint or whatever replaced
>glint in RH6.0).
I would prefer to install security-related daemons such as imapd from
source. (For one thing, I have to fix them to look in e.g. $HOME/Mailbox
instead of /var/spool/mail/$USER.) Where can the current IMAPd be found?
Does it require any libraries besides libc; if so, where are they?
I tried Qualcomm qpopper but couldn't build it because it needed a
thing called PAP. There were no instructions for finding or installing PAP,
whatever PAP is, and no visible switch for making qpopper independent of it.
Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: emacs questions
Date: 31 May 1999 18:30:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 May 1999 18:28:10 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>hi.
>I'm using emacs 20.3.1 from slackware 3.6 packages and I have some questions.
>
>1. How do I do syntax highlighting on c mode?
meta-x c-mode ret
this puts you in C edit mode. Then you need to turn on syntax highlighting
by.
meta-x font-lock-mode ret
to toggle font lock mode on or off.
this can be added as a hook in your .emacs file
(add hook 'c-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)
with the above line
>2. How do I scroll just 1 line when I press CTRL+n on last line of screen?
can't help here, sorry
for me, it simply scrolls one line down untill end of buffer is reached.
(note that by line, I mean untill after the end of line char, if your lines
are wider than the terminal, it jumps to the end of that line, not the nexk
line on the terminal.)
> 3. What's the command to go back to previous position after long jump?
>
>thanks.
nor here, frankly, I don't understand this question, you mean after you
jump to a bookmark, how do you jump back? if that's the question, I don't
know, short of making a bookmark at the first position before you jump.
the above points from me are all re: Xemacs, which I prefer, but should be
the same for Emacs.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 31 May 1999 18:30:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 31 May 1999 02:18:40 GMT,
p, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
> Hello,
>
> I must agree with the this point of view. I have tryed Redhat 5.2 and
>results were OK. Recently installing Suse Linux 6.1 on my laptop has
>made me a believer. I actually installed it on my laptop after 2
>attempts.
>
>Redhat has sold out. Suse is were its at.
Bull, suse may make a better product(imho) , but RH is still your friend,
they haven't "sold out" they're just making money, like Suse.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:10:41 +0100
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Bill McClain wrote:
> Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What does the nice setting do?
>
> It gives a process a low priority so it does not interfere with more
> important tasks. But even low priority tasks can get +99% of the cpu
> when nothing else is running at that moment.
Or a higher priority (you need to be root though). I have seen is
recommended that the X server is run at a higher proority to improve
interactive performance.
> This is perfect for background tasks like setathome. My machine shows
> 100% cpu utilization, but the interactive tasks I do during the day are
> not slowed down at all.
>
> Setiathome has a "nice" switch built in, but Unix supports it for the
> general case also. Look at "man nice".
David Vrabel
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From: Marco BANO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fibre Channel on Linux (RAID) Driver ?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:40:05 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
anyone have some experience in deploy a Fibre channel
RAID on linux ?
I read about ICP-vortex etc etc.. I just want to lissen some real.
living experience.
And Anybody try to read the same disks FC from two different linux
servers ? Cluster ...
Any help will be, redistribute after ...
THANK you .....
--
Marco BANO
Network administrator Consultant
EUMETSAT
Am Kavalleriesand 31
64295 DARMSTADT
Germany
Office : ++49 6151 807536
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bind 8.2 $TTL value?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:16:07 +0100
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Ken Williams wrote:
> So I can't find one example that actually shows a TTL value. What is a good
> number to use?
The TTL is reset every time the name is queried so it needn't be very
large. I seem to recall about 3 minutes? It's critical.
David Vrabel
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From: Jayasuthan [VorHacker] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vfat not supported!?
Date: 31 May 99 19:29:50 GMT
Tuomo Louhivuori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tuomo..
Easy solution ... recompile your kernel with all fat supports...
out of box... hmmm Check in /proc/filesystem .. did u find vfat there ? nope
then kernel not enable vfat or check /lib/modules/*kernelversion*/vfat.o
if found then modprobe vfat. Check ur /var/log/messages and dmesg's
: Hi,
: My problem is that now I get an error when I try to
: mount my FAT32-drives under linux. It says that vfat
: is not supported by my kernel (error 32 or something).
: I'm running RH6.0 out of box and it used to work just
: fine.
: The problem arose when I tried to make and install a
: program called wm_sensors. Actually I installed lm_sensors
: -packet (it's required by wm_sensors -frontend) first with
: no problems. wm_sensors make gave me a bunch of errors,
: unable to find .h -include files. Could this have messed up
: my system?
: I'm new to linux so any advice would be greatly
: appreciated. I wouldn't want to start again from the
: scratch.
: -Tuomo
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From: Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE 6.1 - mp3's and RealPlayer(G2)
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:13:08 -0400
I'm beginning to wonder if Linux is really cracked up to be what I was
hoping
it would be...
I've been running Linux since RedHat 4.2 on one computer, and when a new
version comes out, something that once worked seems to no longer work
in some instances.
I have never been able to successfully have RealPlayer run on any
system.
Originally, I thought it was my Compaq causing problems. Not so.
I just built a super-puter (Celeron 300A, 128M PC-100 ram, a real
SoundBlaster
sound card, STB Velocity 4400 with Riva TNT chipset (16 megs)).
Computer
runs great, and runs like it's supposed to.
However, RealPlayer (the non-G2) wouldn't work, no matter what
I tried. I would get all kinds of errors. So I switched to the beta
G2 Realplayer. Well, this kinda works....I get video just fine,
but absolutely no sound.
Yes, the sound card is running properly. .wav, .au play just fine.
However, no sound from RealPlayer...and I can't even get MIDI files
to play audio!!!
I'm having the same trouble with MP3's. No sound...nothing at all.
The MP3 players are telling me the file is actually playing, but
I'm receiving nothing. I get errors such as:
May 31 01:54:56 anubis2 kernel: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ
config e
rror?
I have no idea why it's generating this error. Everything *seems* to
be workin' just fine. As I said, I can play sounds just fine
(except the 'play' command does NOT do this well!) using 'wavplay'
or 'cat <filename> > /dev/audio' System sounds (KDE) don't work at
all.
Is anyone else having this trouble? If so, did you fix it? If so,
how?
I'm thinking about compiling a new kernel, though I'm not sure if
this would fix anything. Ideas/suggestions are quite welcome!
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:21:01 -0500
Keith Phillips wrote:
>
> Now, if SuSE would only add printer support to their shipped kernel... :-)
I don't understand. I have SuSE 6.1, and had 6.0 and 5.3, all supported
printing just fine. I imagine there would be quite an uproar if SuSE
shipped something that didn't support printing.
____________________________________________________________________
Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 13:08:10 -0700
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>>>>> "Mircea" == Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mircea> Michael Powe wrote:
>> Is it possible to use RealPlayer for a plugin in Netscrape in
>> linux? I tried to follow the instructions for setting it up
>> but they are not accurate, as they seem to be written for an
>> earlier version of NS. However, I did put the class files &
>> the .so file in the "plugins" directory as the directions
>> indicate.
Mircea> To use the RP as plugin, you must put the
Mircea> rvplayerplugin.so and the java classes in your
Mircea> $HOME/.netscape/plugins directory, not in
Mircea> /usr/local/netscape/plugins.
Thanks, did that. Still not working. I get the same errors. At CNN,
I get "file compression not supported" and at spinner.com I get "you
don't have the correct plugin type."
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Montgomery)
Subject: Re: xterm & background processes
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:17:37 GMT
Conway Yee wrote:
> Running a terminal and involking a background process, say "foo &"
> should invoke foo in the background that is detached from the
> parent process.
In some ways I suppose it is.
> Specifically, when I terminate the parent process, the
> xterm, foo should continue to run.
Not in that way though!
> As a specific example, I run emacs in the background and then
> terminate the xterm from which it runs should not kill emacs.
I'm far from a technical expert on the matter, so please excuse (or
correct) the errors I'm about to make. But, when you start processes
in the background by typing in a shell:
foobar &
barfoo &
and then exit from the shell later on, then a signal of some sort
(hangup or quit I think?) is sent to foobar and barfoo, causing them
to stop.
If you want to be able to exit from the shell without causing foobar
to stop, then you should start it using the nohup command as follows:
nohup foobar &
Then, foobar will ignore quit and hangup signals. Processes started
using nohup can be stopped in the usual ways, using the kill command,
or simply exiting in the case of an interactive program.
I encourage you to consult the nohup manpages for more details.
> Is there a setting somewhere that I am missing?
Yup! You are missing the nohup command! By the way, the behaviour you
describe is not an error, it's just the way things work. If you really
don't like that behaviour, then the nohup command will help you
out. I'd guess that most people use nohup when they want to run a big
job that will continue even after they logout.
--
Neil Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jens Olav Nygaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: smp box with gus freezes during x11amp playing
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:57:20 -0100
I have a Tyan dual PPro mainboard with an old (non-PnP) GUS soundcard.
Most things works fine, I have a Miro PCTV card which makes sound all
right. The problem is that when I use x11amp to play mp3 files, the
system
tends to completely lock up during moderate to high disk activity. (IDE,
I
have a SCSI subsystem too, but IDE activity is enough to bring the stuff
down.) Strange thing is that this started to happen after moving from
2.0.29
to 2.2.* kernels.
Using the freshest OSS drivers doesn't help. To me, it looks like some
problem with the IDE and/or sound (dma-related?) drivers. Btw., I've
disabled DMA on the IDE drives.
Doesn't actually have much hope in solving this, but maybe the throwing
of this msg into cyberspace will cause other souls to find it and
respond,
some time in the future...
Jens Olav Nygaard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Sierra poll
Date: 31 May 1999 11:15:55 -0600
If this has already been posted, please forgive me.
But I feel this to be very important.
____________________________________________________________________
Saturday May 29 23:13:39 1999
Sierra Linux Poll
Sierra Studios, developers of such classics as the King's Quest
series and publishers for the more recent Half-Life, is running a
poll on their main page asking "In what direction do you think Sierra
Studios should expand their gaming expertise?", with one of the
options being "Linux Games". Vote and let them know that you want
Sierra titles ported to the Linux operating system!
The address is at:
http://www.sierrastudios.com
In the right hand side bar.
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Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 13:06:09 -0700
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>>>>> "Jimmy" == Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jimmy> I posted the same question "Subject: Linux Sound" somebody
Jimmy> replied it... Yes RealPlayer can be plugin. At "|
Jimmy> Preferences | Netscape | Application" the RealPlayer is set
Jimmy> as "Unknown:User Prompt" by default. Change RealAudio to
Jimmy> "Handled by" as "Application" and fill in "rvplayer %s" to
Jimmy> automatically load the *.ram.
Thanks, did that already. Doesn't work. At CNN, I get an error that
the "file compression is unsupported." At spinner.com, I still get
the "you need a plugin" error.
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: "MONEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.msdos.djgpp,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.misc
Subject: CALL ME NOW !!! 1-473-408-8317
Date: Monday, 31 May 1999 09:22:51 -0600
Reply-To: SEXY MAN
I am waiting for u ...... (HOT BABE)
1-473-408-8317
PHONE - 1-473-408-8317 - NOW
Hu\x%
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From: Jayasuthan [VorHacker] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: startx on new kernel ???
Date: 31 May 99 19:25:49 GMT
Arkadiy Korobeyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Try this... ping localhost ... if can then it should be problem. IF it
fail might be ur kernel not enable some network options. Make sure ifconfig
have localhost loopback if I'm not wrong 127.0.0.1...
Best luck
: Hi, everybody !
: When trying to start X-windows on new kernel 2.2.9
: I have received the following error messages:
: Unable to open socket for local
: _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for local/localhost.localdomain :7
: Started as root.
: What is wrong for 2.2.9 ?
: With 2.0.36 working great.
: (85 per cent of packages from RH6.0 already updated)
: Arkadiy
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[Internal Linux System]
http://eplx01/suthan/
smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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