Linux-Misc Digest #435, Volume #27 Sat, 24 Mar 01 13:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Yvan Loranger)
Re: *Good* Office software for linux??? (Grant Edwards)
Re: file manager problem (Tom)
Win4Lin and Lexmark Z32 printer drivers ("Paul A. Rombouts")
Re: 81 day uptime, then console fonts corrupted? (Michael Young)
Re: file manager problem ("Robert")
Re: Shutdown permissions (Arctic Storm)
Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal (Jeff Hellige)
Re: file manager problem ("Robert")
Re: Palm handheld as Linux terminal (Michael Perry)
Re: Palm handheld as Linux terminal (Rick)
Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal (Rick)
Help with modem/sound/cd on Red Hat 7.0 (Robert)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: 24 Mar 2001 16:27:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
enkidu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> IE doesn't work properly with www.microsoft.com! Visit it
> with IE, and much of the time it only renders the banner!
> If you refresh it gives you a bit more. Netscape often,
> but by no means always, works with www.microsoft.com. So
> if I visit that URL I keep both the browsers open and
> copy and paste URLs just in case one browser handles the
> page better than the other. That site is a pain.
why visit www.microsoft.com? :)
BTW i often get banner only at some pcmag.com pages
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: *Good* Office software for linux???
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:29:26 GMT
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:05:59 GMT, Mike Flournoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What v. of WP have you tried? The new 2000 version (WP9) is quite
>> "MSWord-like", if that's what you're after. It's not free like 8, but Corel
>> has basically ported the whole Windoze version over to Linux with WINE. That's
>> probably going to be you're most mainstream (aka M$-ish) package if all you
>> want is point&click functionality & are willing to tolerate
>> a certain level of bloat (not that there's anything WRONG with that! ;->).
>>
>> (No flames, please. I haen't tried Applix or StarOffice, so YMMV)
>
>I have no experiance with WordPerfect on Linux but on Mac and Windows I find
>it to be very nice. And every bit the equal of Word. Also WordPerfect has a
>modern version available on Windows, Dos ( ! ), Macintosh, and Linux, all
>with good translators built in.
I've got WP8, Applix 5.0, and SO 5.2. Here's my 2 cents:
Star Office
===========
SO is just too big, slow, and buggy. The "take over the
desktop" approach annoys me and I can't stand the
file-selection dialog boxes. It opens most doc and xls files
OK but crashes even under light usage. I don't think it's
worth installing unless you absolutely can't spend any money.
WordPerfect
===========
WP8 is much faster and responsive. Not _quite_ as compatible
with MS-Word as SO. It has a few quirks, but I think it's as
good as MS-Word for the casual stuff I do (Anything that has to
look professional gets done with LaTeX). WP8 (the last native
Unix version) Doesn't include a spreadsheet or other apps.
Corel's current Office for Linux product is the MS-Windows
version linked with Wine. I've not tried it and have heard
mixed reviews.
Applix Office
=============
Applix is a *very* solid product. Fast, small, with the right
features. The word-processor, spreadsheet and other apps are
IMO every bit as good as MS-Office. I've not used the
presentation program, e-mail client, database front-end, or
graphics program much, but I've been using Applix under Solaris
and Linux for 5 or 6 years (off and on). The HTML editor
seemed to work OK for casual use (the HTML it generated wasn't
too bad) but I still edit HTML with Jed.
I'd never buy another copy that uses a node-locked license
manager, but they gave up on that (at least for their Linux
version). At the $99.99 (US) list price, Applix is a terrific
bargain. Best Buy had it on sale for $69.99 last time I
looked.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! does your DRESSING
at ROOM have enough ASPARAGUS?
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom)
Subject: Re: file manager problem
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:29:51 +0000 (UTC)
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:00:07 -0500, Robert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm having a problem with the xwc file manager- now I can only use it
>as root. (has been working just fine before this) I tried
>uninstalling, logging out, reinstalling, logging out -- but still
>situation is the same. Removed an alias I had created in .bashrc
>thinking it might have something to do with it- still no go. Tried
>changing the ownership to user, then even tried changing it to -r-w-x
>by all-- no help.
What is the error when you try to run it as user?
By the way, my favorite is emelfm. Its very Windows Commander-like.
--
Quote of the day for March 24th, 2001
You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't
try.
- Beverly Sills
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From: "Paul A. Rombouts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win4Lin and Lexmark Z32 printer drivers
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:04:06 +0100
Hello,
I've got a problem that is not exactly a Linux problem and maybe more
of a Windows problem but please bear with me.
I use RedHat 7.0 on a 4 year old Pentium II machine and for the
applications that I must use and only run under Windows I use Windows
98 (dutch language edition) running under Win4Lin 2.0.
I've recently bought a Lexmark Z32 inkjet printer and I've experienced
some difficulties installing the Lexmark printer drivers for Windows
under Win4Lin. The problem is that Windows hangs (becomes
unresponsive) after installing the drivers. When I try to restart
Windows the desktop fails to reappear. The drivers work OK when
Windows runs directly on my PC.
When I press CTRL-ALT-DEL while Windows hangs, the taskmanager window
that appears indicates that "spool32" is unresponsive. I found that
there is a spool32.exe in C:\windows\system. By renaming this file,
for instance into spool32b.exe, I can break the deadlock that Windows
otherwise gets into and get the Windows desktop to appear, although
with an additional delay of about 10 to 15 seconds. The remaining
difficulty now is that I don't have any printing functionality inside
Windows anymore.
I've discovered that after Windows has completely started up (i.e. the
hourglass beside the mouse pointer has disappeared), I can execute
C:\windows\system\spool32b.exe and get back full Windows printing
functionality, even with the Lexmark Z32!
So at least I've found a workaround, but it's not ideal (especially
the delay in starting up Windows is very irritating). I would be very
interested to know if somebody has experienced the same problem and
especially if somebody knows a better solution (apart from not using
Windows at all, of course).
Thanks,
Paul Rombouts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Michael Young <michael&[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 81 day uptime, then console fonts corrupted?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:05:55 -0600
David Efflandt wrote:
>
> Running Mandrake 7.0 with generic kernel 2.2.17, boot to runlevel 3,
> ancient S3 Trio64 video. After 81 days of uptime (load ave 1.00 due to
> SETI@home), I noticed that the fonts in the console were scrambled when I
> switched to the console from gnome (white background with lines trough
> it). After exiting X, I got the blinking cursor, but the font was
> invisible even with inverse background.
>
> In either case 'reset' did not work (which usually clears up graphic
> fonts). 'clear' or ^L did not help. 'setfont' or 'consolechars -d' would
> clear it up, but only temporarily. The next time I startx, the console
> font corrupted again. Everything was fine from xterm or remote login
> (telnet or ssh).
>
> I shutdown the box for a few minutes, rebooted, and everything was back to
> normal. Any idea what could cause the console fonts to switch to
> something other than normal?
>
> I don't think it is due to overheating, because the only time that
> happened (inlet fan packed with lint), I just had drive access problems
> (no data loss except abreviated logs).
>
> --
> David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
Can you walk me through the serfont & consolechars fix you used?
I've got almost the same problem with my debain box shutting gnome down
or
switching to a virtual console.
Reset ^l & clear didn't work for me either. I'd like to try setfont &
console-
chars but I'm getting error messages I can't read on my scrambled
console.
In a gnome terminal shell it's an "Operation not permitted" error with
console-
chars, "command not found" with setfont. Can't say for sure if these
are the
error mesages my scrabled console is displaying.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
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From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file manager problem
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:09:10 -0500
Thanks for taking the time,
Inexplicably, xwc is back working as user now- perhaps a few reboots did it,
so I can't access the error messages. I'm just going to have to settle for
the fact that programs in the vast array of gnu software do not always
interact the way you would like or expect. Now gnome panel is inexplicably
showing up in the middle of my screen when I log on despite having all of
the settings correct in panel properties. These things are more an
inconvenience than anything as there are always alternatives.
Thanks for one more alternative, I'll check emelfin out.
all the best,
Robert
"Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:99ii1v$pfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:00:07 -0500, Robert
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I'm having a problem with the xwc file manager- now I can only use it
> >as root. (has been working just fine before this) I tried
> >uninstalling, logging out, reinstalling, logging out -- but still
> >situation is the same. Removed an alias I had created in .bashrc
> >thinking it might have something to do with it- still no go. Tried
> >changing the ownership to user, then even tried changing it to -r-w-x
> >by all-- no help.
>
> What is the error when you try to run it as user?
>
> By the way, my favorite is emelfm. Its very Windows Commander-like.
>
>
> --
> Quote of the day for March 24th, 2001
> You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't
> try.
> - Beverly Sills
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutdown permissions
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:12:14 GMT
> We have a standalone PC at home running both Suse 7.1 Linux and Windows
> ME. We use KDE on Linux, with the default graphical login manager.
>
> Since this is at home, it would be nice if pushing the "shutdown" button
>
> on the graphical login manager would allow anyone to shut the machine
> down. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to do this. Pushing this
> button requires entering the root password before shutdown will occur.
>
> /etc/shutdown.allow sounded like a good possibility, but it doesn't seem
> to do
> the job. The man page implies that you have to be logged in and have
> permission in the shutdown.allow file. No one is logged in when the
> graphical login manager is up.
This is slightly off the topic, but there's no need to shut down the
computer, especially when you run Linux. I used to turn off the computer
when ever I was done with it. Then I began shutting down only once a day,
just before I went to sleep; so I would turn on/off only once a day. Now,
I keep the computer running continuously day/night. The computers don't
wear out like cars. If the computer lasts you 5 years, then it was a good
investment. Most people find it "intuitive" that something not in
immediate use should be put away or turned off. That's true for most house
hold products; TV, radio, cars, hammers, etc. At first, it was hard for me
to keep the computer on continuously, but after a few days, you'll learn to
enjoy the benefits. I have triple boot with Win98SE, Win2K, & Linux. I
never touch the power button. The only time I touch the reset button is
when I have to reboot from a crashed Win98SE.
Try this; keep the computer running continuously for two weeks, and if you
still feel that it's an overkill, turn it off. You will be an informed
decision maker.
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Subject: Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal
From: Jeff Hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.tandy,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:25:01 GMT
There's a little program that emulates a VT100 terminal available
for the Model 100. I believe it's availabe at the Club 100 download
area. Try;
http://www.the-dock.com/club100.html
Jeff
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Is it possible to use a Tandy model 100 as a terminal on a Linux
> machine?
>
> If so, how might I do this? I want to be able to log into my desktop and
> kill X when netscape or something else locks up X.
>
> Any and all help appreciated.
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From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file manager problem
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:33:11 -0500
Actually I found a possible solution to the panel problem in case anyone has
the same. (gnome panel loads in mid screen) This is from:
http://www.linux.org.uk/~telsa/GDP/gnome-faq/problems.html#AEN918
Q: The menu panel (the narrow one at the top) is sitting in the middle of
the screen when I start GNOME.
A: This may be a sawfish-specific problem. If you are using sawfish, then
open the control center and find the options for sawfish. Under Placement
you will find a checkbox for Ignore program-specified window placements..
This needs to be unchecked.
If this doesn't work, take the longer route provided by Robert Soros on
gnome-list: " I ended up logging out and switching to console to edit my
~/sawfish/window-history file... which contained the line "
("panel
(type . unframed)
(position 0 . 23))
" Editing the file (with 0, 0 coordinates) during the gnome session then
logging out was useless as it would just resave the file as upon exiting.. "
all the best,
Robert
"Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:...
> Thanks for taking the time,
> Inexplicably, xwc is back working as user now- perhaps a few reboots did
it,
> so I can't access the error messages. I'm just going to have to settle
for
> the fact that programs in the vast array of gnu software do not always
> interact the way you would like or expect. Now gnome panel is
inexplicably
> showing up in the middle of my screen when I log on despite having all of
> the settings correct in panel properties. These things are more an
> inconvenience than anything as there are always alternatives.
> Thanks for one more alternative, I'll check emelfin out.
> all the best,
> Robert
> "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:99ii1v$pfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:00:07 -0500, Robert
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm having a problem with the xwc file manager- now I can only use it
> > >as root. (has been working just fine before this) I tried
> > >uninstalling, logging out, reinstalling, logging out -- but still
> > >situation is the same. Removed an alias I had created in .bashrc
> > >thinking it might have something to do with it- still no go. Tried
> > >changing the ownership to user, then even tried changing it to -r-w-x
> > >by all-- no help.
> >
> > What is the error when you try to run it as user?
> >
> > By the way, my favorite is emelfm. Its very Windows Commander-like.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Quote of the day for March 24th, 2001
> > You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't
> > try.
> > - Beverly Sills
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Palm handheld as Linux terminal
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:34:02 -0000
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 08:56:16 -0500, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible to use a Palm handheld as a terminal on a Linux
>machine?
>
>If so, how might I do this? I want to be able to log into my desktop and
>kill X when netscape or something else locks up X.
>
>Any and all help appreciated.
>
>--
>Rick
You could hook the palm up to a serial port and do a ppp session to your
linux desktop. You just need to write a ppp script and then execute it at
some given time. You can find terminal programs which do telnet type sutt
also for the palm.
If you search on google for this, there are some sites which give the
methods to get this done. I've done it with both a pocketpc and a palm.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===================
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Palm handheld as Linux terminal
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:45:30 -0500
Michael Perry wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 08:56:16 -0500, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is it possible to use a Palm handheld as a terminal on a Linux
> >machine?
> >
> >If so, how might I do this? I want to be able to log into my desktop and
> >kill X when netscape or something else locks up X.
> >
> >Any and all help appreciated.
> >
> >--
> >Rick
>
> You could hook the palm up to a serial port and do a ppp session to your
> linux desktop. You just need to write a ppp script and then execute it at
> some given time. You can find terminal programs which do telnet type sutt
> also for the palm.
>
> If you search on google for this, there are some sites which give the
> methods to get this done. I've done it with both a pocketpc and a palm.
>
> --
> Michael Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -------------------
Thanks. I'll take a look.
--
Rick
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.tandy,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:46:02 -0500
Tha
nks. I'll take a look.
Jeff Hellige wrote:
>
> There's a little program that emulates a VT100 terminal available
> for the Model 100. I believe it's availabe at the Club 100 download
> area. Try;
>
> http://www.the-dock.com/club100.html
>
> Jeff
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to use a Tandy model 100 as a terminal on a Linux
> > machine?
> >
> > If so, how might I do this? I want to be able to log into my desktop and
> > kill X when netscape or something else locks up X.
> >
> > Any and all help appreciated.
--
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert)
Subject: Help with modem/sound/cd on Red Hat 7.0
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:52:14 GMT
I just installed Red Hat 7.0 on a dell inspiron 3800 dual booting with
Win 98. Linux has a 2gb partition and the install seemed to go fine,
but it doesn't seem to recognize any devices except the mouse and
video. I've checked the linux-laptop website and couldn't find
anything that would instruct me on how to configure Linux to recognize
the following:
Modem = Actiontec 56K
Sound = ESS Maestro 3i
Network Adapter = Xircom Cardbus Ethernet II 10/100
CD drive = Toshiba CD Rom XM-1902B
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Robert
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