Linux-Misc Digest #445, Volume #18 Sun, 3 Jan 99 02:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Linux is better than Windows ("mct1")
Re: Best Free Unix? (Ilya)
Re: Whats the best *offline* usenet reader for Linux? (David Steuber)
Tripwire on RH Linux (Danny Aldham)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Java Machine - ICQ in Red Hat 5.2 (Josh Morris)
Re: Best Free Unix? (Frank Sweetser)
Re: only L in LILO BOOT :) (Carl-Johan Kjellander)
Re: Linux and Web publishing (Protocol?) (Steve Lamb)
Re: Staroffice 4.0 Vs. 5.0 (Jorge Delgado Mendoza)
Re: WP8 installation (Carl Fink)
Staroffice on an 486... is it possible? (Larsa)
Initialization ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: egcs, g++ (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Epson Stylus 500 with Red Hat 5.1? (E. Ramelli)
Re: What's FUD (Steve Lamb)
Re: Corrupt partition table and only L when booting. (Carl-Johan Kjellander)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 for Linux - the end of MS Windows (Chris Vine)
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! ("Clayton J. Ramseyer")
Xfree86 help (Lj 09)
Message Queue Middleware for Linux? (Raymond)
install (Bas)
Re: Netscape 4.5 problem (Taso Hatzi)
Afterstep for Redhat5.1 (Dmitry)
Internet throughput speed on Slackware, slow...HELP (Brian Lavender)
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From: "mct1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Why Linux is better than Windows
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:55:17 -0800
Microsoft NT also thinks it's a robust OS.
Should be more like 'mobust'ed, like the three-legged horse that no
one would bet on.
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix?
Date: 3 Jan 1999 02:22:12 GMT
Is Linux a 64-bit operating system like Solaris 7 and HP-UX 11.0?
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whats the best *offline* usenet reader for Linux?
Date: 02 Jan 1999 06:53:41 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Hardwick) writes:
-> 1. Allows offline reading.
-> 2. Follows threads.
-> 3. Must work with dialup PPP connection to NNTP server.
->
-> The ones I have looked at so far (but none in great detail) are Knews
-> and Emacs-Gnus. Knews didn't seem very robust and wasn't offline. I am
-> still looking at Gnus (which I like).
Gnus is the best choice. It is supposed to have an Agent mode, but I
haven't tried it. What I ended up doing was getting a program called
leafnode. leafnode is an nntp server that uses another program called
fetch to send and receive news from your upstream nntp server. It can
trivialy be set up to fetch news when you ppp goes up. I have mine
set up in a crontab because I have a dial on demand ISDN router. My
news gets updated twice a day.
-> I have no problem with complicated interfaces but it needs to have the
-> features mentioned.
I do have a problem with complex interfaces. It takes me a while to
learn them :-).
-> Please let me know what you are all using for usenet reading?
Just take a look at my headers.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends. These people, they're, they're terrorists."
-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Tripwire on RH Linux
Date: 1 Jan 1999 14:47:59 -0800
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
I have a copy of Tripwire-1.2 that I would like to install on a Redhat5.2
machine. I can find no rpm/srpm files for it, and a web search on Tripwire
seems to show that it is now a commercial product.
Does anyone have a hints/config file for building tripwire on Linux?
And does anyone know the status of tripwire?
--
Danny Aldham SCO Ace, MCSE, JAPH, DAD
Field Service Manager BCTel Systems Support
7000 Lougheed Hwy, Burnaby BC (604) 444-8949
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 3 Jan 1999 01:40:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nix <$}xin{[email protected]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) writes:
>
>> The right way is to prepend it to the PATH variable defined in
>> /etc/profile.
>
>Prepending things to PATH is evil.
That is just too broad and sweeping a condemnation. Prepending
the *wrong* things is evil (*very* evil). That is what most of
this thread has been about, and most of us agree on it.
But the one thing that was cited in that case was best done in
exactly that way.
And I'm aghast that anyone would symlink the netire netpbm
set of binaries.
I do think that each case needs to be considered on its merits,
and that any policy which says "we do it this way, only" is
worse then the results of less that clear judgement on the part
of one or more admins who occasionally get one instance wrong.
>Why?
>
>Because if *any* component of the PATH iterates through an NFS-mounted
So? Nobody has suggested that NFS mounted directories be included
in a PATH variable either.
>Oh, and steering clear of PATHization also lets you install things
>without requiring everyone to log out and log in again (ugh, shades of
>Windows).
So why would anyone log out to make it effective? That is
absolutely not necessary.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pictures of the North Slope at <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: Josh Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java Machine - ICQ in Red Hat 5.2
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:15:20 +0000
Paul Griffiths wrote:
>
> John Robicheau wrote:
> >
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Here is something that has been buggin the heck outta me.
> >
> > I am relatively new to Linux / Unix OS's. But I am learning something
> > new every day. The thing that I can not figure out how to do at this point
> > is how to get the VJM (Virtual Java Machine) up and running so I can try to
> > get this silly Java version of ICQ to work in Red Hat 5.2.
> >
> > Is there anybody out there than can help me on this one? I really would
> > appreciate a hand with it. As I use ICQ every Day and is primarily one of
> > the main reasons that I must (for the time being) keep windoze on the
> > flipside.
>
> You just need to download the Linux port of the Sun JDK v1.1.7, and ICQ
> should work fine. I forget the URL for it, but someone round here is
> sure to know.
>
> HTH
> --
> Paul Griffiths
Try the links at www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html
Follow the readme's included in whatever mirroed dsirectory you download.
Also, with RedHat 5.2, I had to rename some java binaries (and I renamed
some directories as well) to keep things from conflicting (do a 'find -name
java'). I got ICQ working, although I'm still not too thrilled with the
performance of this service as of late (not that you can beat the price),
and this java version isn't exactly the greatest. Good luck.
--
Josh Morris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux - Where do you want to go tomorrow?
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix?
Date: 02 Jan 1999 21:51:49 -0500
Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is Linux a 64-bit operating system like Solaris 7 and HP-UX 11.0?
depends - it's 32 bit on 32 bit hardware (ia32, sparc, etc). i know that
it's 64 bit on alphas, and the kernel is 64 bit on ultrasparc, but i think
that 64 bit userland on ultrasparc is still being worked on. so, without
specifying exactly what platform, that's not a very meaningfull question.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.1.131ac6 i586 | at public servers
Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Carl-Johan Kjellander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: only L in LILO BOOT :)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:26:16 +0100
Tobias Andersson wrote:
<snip>
> When I tried to reboot my system it couldn't boot. I got a big L which I
> suppose is the beginning of: LILO (LILO BOOT) Then my computer
> crashes/(doesn't do anything more). I still got the LILO BOOT left on my
> second harddrive but because I don't boot from it I suppose it's doesn't
> matter. I think I will remove it with FDISK /MBR...
I installed RH5.2 a couple of days ago and had exactly the same problem.
Everthing worked fine when I removed the 'linear' keyword in lilo.conf.
Don't forget to check that your linux partition doesn't start at
a cylinder >1024.
/Carl-Johan Kjellander
--
main(w,_,a)char*a;{return 1<w?0x7d==*a||main(/*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*/
w,main(-1,*a,"Qw[^@x%|a!=#*r]\nljrJnCa he-oKd"),/*or: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*/
1+a):0<w?main(3,w,"%|^w#@*!|xar[=ww|x]=^Q}"):_==*a/*ICQ#(UIN) 5775899*/
?putchar(0xf[a]):main(w,_,a+1);}/*http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~f95cakj */
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Linux and Web publishing (Protocol?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Jan 1999 19:18:43 +0800
On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:46:02 GMT, Neil Cherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't need an html edit (I do it mostly by hand so I can get better result
>across many browsers) just the publisher (It uses UDP).
Close. Netscape's publish is nothing more than FTP.
--
Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my
http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus | employer's. They hired me for my
ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions!
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From: Jorge Delgado Mendoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Staroffice 4.0 Vs. 5.0
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:26:23 +0100
mvrao wrote:
>
> which is better- staroffice 4.0 with SP3 or SO 5.0 ? Does 4.0 SP3 have
> office 97 filters ?
>
> Thanks
SO5.0 has more languages for spellchecking.
SO5.0 has better filters for Word 7.0, not perfect, but definitely more useable
than those bundled in 4.0
--
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Windows 9x/NT are real 'Operating Systems'. They do |
|Jorge Delgado Mendoza|whatever the hell they want to, whenever they feel like|
|CONVEX Supercomputer |it. Thus all the rest should be called 'Co-Operating |
|SPAIN |Systems' |
|+34-91-531-00-95 | As seen in comp.os.linux.* |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: WP8 installation
Date: 2 Jan 1999 23:15:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Jan 1999 20:39:32 GMT, Crispg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I got my WP8 to work by just selecting the other check box, not with one asking
>for a license key checkbox. It'll work fine for 90 days. I believe you have to
>call or mail them a request for a license key, of course there will be a cost,
>that at this time I don't recall the amount.
The cost is "nothing".
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Your brain is actually a fabulously complex computer, which means that
on Jan. 1, 2000, it will stop working and your body will flop around
like a recently caught perch." (Dave Barry, slightly paraphrased.)
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:49:36 +0100
From: Larsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Staroffice on an 486... is it possible?
I'm running a debian system on an old compaq portable (486DX 40MHz 12M RAM
40M swap). My question is: will staroffice run on my machine?
I'm using the latest (stable) kernel and the VGA16 X-server.
Thankful for answer.
--
*********************************************************
*Name LarsErik Johansson *
*Mail adress [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
*Homepage http://www.mds.mdh.se/~kem96ljn/ *
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Initialization
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:31:34 GMT
How can I find out the order in which the Initalization files are read when
Linux starts up. I want to modify some of the settings, but don't know what
file to put the lines in.
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: egcs, g++
Date: 3 Jan 1999 04:35:04 GMT
Samuel Bridgeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So what did you want to know?
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E. Ramelli)
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus 500 with Red Hat 5.1?
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 05:08:27 GMT
[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
Hello Bill,
Please look at the following web page:
http://www.eunuchs.org/epson/index.html
I used it as a guide to setup my Epson Stylus Color 500 inkjet with Red
Hat 5.2. The setup is working fine for me.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hello,
> I've been hacking all night trying to "connect the dots"
> with
> ghostscript 5.50, and my Epson Stylus Color 500 inkjet with Red Hat
> 5.1
>
> I'm tired of rebooting to windows-95 just to print a color
> page
> from my browser. Can you offer any help?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: What's FUD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Jan 1999 19:22:52 +0800
On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:01:50 -0500, Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hills/9267/fuddef.html
Nope, no longer there.
--
Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my
http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus | employer's. They hired me for my
ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions!
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From: Carl-Johan Kjellander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Corrupt partition table and only L when booting.
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:58:05 +0100
Tobias Andersson wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I tried to install Redhat Linux 5.2. I created two partitions. One
> native as / (root) and another on my second harddrive as swap.
>
> The installation seemed to work out fine. When it was time to reboot I
> did so. Then I only got the first letter in LILO boot. A "L" and the
> system crashed/hanged.
>
> I thought that only the LILO boot wasn't installed correctly. I tried to
> install Redhat Linux 5.2 again. Full installation again, and on the same
> partitions. But this didn't help, same result. Then I wrote fdisk /mbr
> at my two harddrives and restored everything as it was before the
> installation, without any LILO boot.
>
> Then I thought that the LILO boot was destroyed at the CD with Redhat
> Linux 5.2 so I decided to install Redhat Linux 5.0 and upgrade that
> version to 5.2. I created a startdisk and tried to install 5.0. When I
> came to the part where you choose to use "Diskdruid" I got a warning
> message:
>
> "The partition table on device hda is corrupted to create new partitions
> it must be initialized, causing the loss of ALL DATA on this drive"
>
> The first drive, hda is the drive which I run Win 95 from. It seem to
> work :), but something is probobly wrong. I couldn't boot 5.2 and 5.0
> refuses to use my old partitions. The partition which I used for Linux,
> on my first drive (hda) has never been formatted under DOS or Win 95 or
> any OS. It comes directly from the factory. Maybe there is a small error
> on the disk?
>
> Do I have to initialize my harddrive and lose ALL DATA? In that case I
> have buy I CD-rom writer first... :)
>
> I would really appreciate some help.
Use fdisk /mbr to remove LILO from the MBR if you installed it there.
Use Partition Magic tho check your partitions.
Try to boot linux from the resque disk you created inside the
installation. (You did do it?!)
Try lilo without the linear option.
rtfm.
/Carl-Johan Kjellander
--
main(w,_,a)char*a;{return 1<w?0x7d==*a||main(/*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*/
w,main(-1,*a,"Qw[^@x%|a!=#*r]\nljrJnCa he-oKd"),/*or: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*/
1+a):0<w?main(3,w,"%|^w#@*!|xar[=ww|x]=^Q}"):_==*a/*ICQ#(UIN) 5775899*/
?putchar(0xf[a]):main(w,_,a+1);}/*http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~f95cakj */
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Vine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0 for Linux - the end of MS Windows
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 06:06:21 GMT
On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:22:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>But in the long term you have to upgrade to
>64MB anyway, if you want to use some of the newer stuff like KDE or GNOME.
>I'm pretty sure you will face the same problems with WP as with SO if you
>don't get more RAM.
You most certainly do not need 64MB for KDE or GNOME (nor for that
matter to use WP8). You may need it if you try graphics rendering or
something of that kind, but that is not a function of the window
manager.
Star Office is a slow pig - that is the truth of it.
Chris.
If replying by e-mail, remove the --nospam--
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From: "Clayton J. Ramseyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 05:48:43 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When you re4compiled your kernel.
Did you boot to the new kernel and do the following commands
make modules
make mdules_install
I had the same problems until a friend show me that I had to do that
--
Clayton J. Ramseyer - CyberZard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Ferris, he loves this car more than life itself..."
"A man with priorities so far out of whack doesn't deserve such a fine
automobile..." Ferris Beuller & Kameron Frye - "Ferris Beuller's Day Off"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lj 09)
Subject: Xfree86 help
Date: 3 Jan 1999 06:25:41 GMT
Hey, I'm a newbie to Linux, I've been reading books about it for about a year,
I just got around to installing it lastnight, and my Xwindows wouldn't work, so
I got on the net and looked around for answers, and I found out that my video
card wasn't supported, I found how to fix this at www.Xfree86.org, but I don't
know what to do now, I mean what, and how do I download this and get it to
work?
Any help you can give would help alot,
Thanx
Lj
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:36:54 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Message Queue Middleware for Linux?
Hello,
Are there any message queue middleware available for Linux? Like
Tibco, MSMQ?
Yours,
Raymond Li
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From: Bas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: install
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:28:52 +0100
I've downloaded the redhat 5.2 release. I put everything that was under
/i386 under /redhat. Install says: "hda does not contain a redhat
installation tree".
What is wrong or what file am I missing ?
THX
With my instalation of 4.2 it worked all well.
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From: Taso Hatzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 problem
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:47:55 +0000
"Michael J. Saletnik" wrote:
>
> or, in .Xdefaults (or .Xresources, depending on your setup):
>
> Netscape*noAboutSplash: true
>
What other .Xdefault settings does Navigator observe?
Where did you find out about this one?
Thanks.
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From: Dmitry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Afterstep for Redhat5.1
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:44:44 -0800
Hello,
I tryed to include in afterstep my own menu buttons, but I couldn't find a place
where to insert my staff.
Who did this please send me hint.
Dmitry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Lavender)
Subject: Internet throughput speed on Slackware, slow...HELP
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 06:51:13 GMT
I am having problems with my data transfer rates on my internet
connection in X
I am using Slacware 3.6 with IP masquerading. I have my windoze 95
machine attached to my linux box through ethernet. I have an isdn
connection to the net with the linux box through a serial port which
connects to my external TA. On my windoze machine (connected to linux
using a private internal IP address), web pages pop up immediately. I
see the transfer lights quickly flash on both the hub and the external
ISDN adpater and the web page flashes on the screen. With ftp, I get
throughput of about 15 kbytes/s. This is through the IP masquerading I
have set up. All data from the internet goes first to the linux
machine and gets passed to the windoze 95 box.
Here is the problem. When I go into X and start up Netscape, web pages
stall and the status bar states "stalled" I will see transfer rates of
about 1-2 kbytes/s on loading of web pages. I try ncFTP and I see
transfer rates of about 6 kbytes/s.
The wierd thing is the linux box is retrieving the data in both cases.
I would think the opposite would happen. What would cause my transfer
rates to be so slow?
brian
====================
Brian Lavender
Sacramento, CA
http://www.brie.com/brian/
"If a train station is where the train stops,
what is a workstation?" -- Phil Adamson
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