Linux-Misc Digest #872, Volume #18                Wed, 3 Feb 99 00:13:28 EST

Contents:
  Re: Intellipoint Mouse ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Zip Disk: Win 95 OK, Linux not happy (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Re: SuSE 5.3 rpm HELP (before I install RH5.2) (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Re: DVD Video???? (Ben Russo)
  Re: How to make it run faster? ("TURBO1010")
  Re: PPP PAP & Netcom? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Hugh Lawson)
  Re: Zip disk, printer and PPP (Bill Unruh)
  Re: My 2 cents worth on man pages (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Laptop touchpad not working (Toffer)
  Lilo question ("David Ricardo")
  Re: more fonts for netscape ("TEX@go")
  Re: Intellipoint Mouse ("Steve D. Perkins")
  Re: Locking up Linux (Alexander Viro)
  Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo (Christopher Browne)
  libbfd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Christopher B. Browne)
  Spracherkennung ("DoctorYeti")
  Re: linux help channel ("Steve D. Perkins")
  Normal Netscape? (Steve Duncan)
  Re: Email and Pop3 accounts ("Kerry J. Cox")
  Re: Time Server Clients (Villy Kruse)
  FTP question (Rick G)

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intellipoint Mouse
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:51:41 -0500

There's a patched version of 'gpm' in the imwheel package to replace the
stock version in /usr/bin.  It includes new mousetype 'imps2' which has to
be
manually added to /etc/sysconfig/mouse.  Then you run 'imwheel -k' while
in an Xterm.  (I suppose there's a place to put it so it will run
automatically
when entering X but I haven't yet bothered to find out where.)

The executables in the RPM wouldn't run as supplied on my RH5.2 system
(needed some lib module or another) so I rebuilt from the supplied source
and it's now running fine.

Steve D. Perkins wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>    Hmm... I'm a little confused.  I downloaded and installed the rpm with
>Glint, but am getting no response whatsoever from the flywheel.  Running
>the executable does nothing, and the configuration file placed in the /etc
>directory tells me almost nothing.  Is there a step that I'm missing?
>
>Steve
>
>
>
>
>Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> spake unto us, saying:
>>
>> >    Has anyone written a utility for making the flywheel on a Microsoft
>> >Intellipoint mouse work under X-Windows? (KDE under RH 5.2, to be
>> >precise).  I'm not so sure that Microsoft has "gotten around yet" to
>> >realeasing the documentation and source code needed to easily write a
>> >driver... so I don't know if anyone's been able to reverse-engineer it
>> >or not.
>>
>> This is a possible solution:
>>
>>   http://solaris1.mysolution.com/~jcatki/imwheel
>>
>> Not having an IntelliMouse, I've not tested it.  There's also this page
>> which might have some helpful information:
>>
>>   http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
>>
>> --
>>    -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>>        OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
>>         WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
>>                 I'm not a tagline, but I play one on TV...
>



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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip Disk: Win 95 OK, Linux not happy
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:00:00 -0600

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ball@chain wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   I have a zip disk, and it works OK in Windows 95 (though the
> mouse gets jumpy during disk access).  I combined a kernel
> for zip use (copied ppa.h and ppa.c into /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi)
> and did "make dep clean bzdisk"
> 
>   I still can't insmod or do anything in the HOWTO to verify.
> I've been over the HOWTO step-by-step.  I even reinstalled
> Linux from scratch after formatting my drive, and took
> a pencil to check off HOWTO steps one by one.
> 
>   No luck.
> 
>   Right now, I have a small win95 partition I ONLY use for
> zip disk access (and fstab the files over to linux). Has
> anyone else had trouble?  2.2.1
> 
> Thanks
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#!/bin/bash
# this script must be run as root or su. Keeping the su term open 
# allows you to jump back and forth to mount and unmount zip drives. 
# You can unmount as a user but you cannot mount as a user.  I need
# to put this module loading command in a boot-time script some
# place.
#
# the lilo.conf has the following line:  append="ppa=0x278,0" prior
# to any device stanzas, and /bin/sbin/lilo has been run to update
# the loader.
#
# formatting  or reformatting a zipdrive:  
# first, be sure a previously formatted disk is in the drive before running
# the modprobe command below.  This allows the modprobe to get the correct
# size from the hardware.  After the modeprobe is run then either the
# mount command is executed to mount the disk that is in the drive, or that
# disk is replaced with an unformated disk and the following command is run:

# mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda4 98288   
# or
# mke2fs /dev/sda4
#
# the value 98288 was reported by the fsck program. The following was reported
# by the modprobe program:
#  Cylinders:         96
#  Sectors:         196608 [96 MB]
#  Bytes/Sector:     512
# 
# I computed 96 * 512 * 2048 = 100,663,296 bytes per disk, or 98304 blocks.
# When I used that value in the mkfs command it seemed to work, and still
# does, but when I checked with fsck it reported an error and gave the
# "should be" value of 98288 given above, which is 100,646,912 bytes per disk.
#
# mounting a formatted drive: 
#mount -t ext2 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipdrv
#
/sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.0.35/scsi/ppa.o 0x278,0

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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 5.3 rpm HELP (before I install RH5.2)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:57:49 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 9 times out of 10, rpm binaries don't work in SuSE.  So I rebuild the
> binaries. Unfortunately, rpm --rebuild gives a "bad user/group: [filename]"

Which binaries?  Those supplied by SuSE or ones you download?  You can
download two kinds of binaries - static and dynamic.  You must use
static binaries when the app uses Motif or glibc.
Since I began using SuSE last Sept I can think of only one occasion in
which a binary I downloaded from the www failed to work (sorry, I can't
remember the name of the app).  I have never had a program install off
of the SuSE CD that didn't work.

> error, even as root.  Which means I have to go in an tar xfvz crap.tar.gz,

"even as root"?  Do you attempt to install things while not logged on as
root?

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD Video????
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:22:03 -0500

Ryan McGuigan wrote:

> Hi, I just got a DVD kit, Creative Labs Encore (whatever).  Anyway, is
> there any way to play DVD Movies in linux yet?  From what I've heard the
> drive will work in linux.  I haven't messed with it yet...
>
> thanks

>From what I have heard, the DVD drive will work with CD's, but there is no
software to read the DVD file-format or to view the DVD encoded movies..

-Ben.


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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:47:06 -0800

Linux is slow regardless, even on my dual 233's.  The only thing that I've
seen really make a diference is kernel 2.2.1.


RAZOR wrote in message <7987g2$klq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hey guys  :-)
>I have my second puter that is 486/66mhz ,16 mb ram with Redhat 5.1
>installed. My swap partition is 65 mb, and I'm running AnotherLevel
>X-Windows (w95 look). So X-Windows is running kinda slow. Even programs in
>control panel are running slow(or any other basic programs).Although I read
>everywhere that Linux is bringing back to life all that old machines, even
>freaking Winblows is running faster on this puter.
>What is the way to increase performance? I mean without hardware upgrades
>and increasing swap partition (I don't have any more space). I have Redhat
>5.0, 5.1, 5.2 releases, may be I should install v5.0? Or may be another
>windows manager?
>Dudes, ANY, ANY tips are appreciated, especially from dudes who have the
>same puter. :-)
>Thanx in advance
>
>
>
>
>




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP PAP & Netcom?
Date: 2 Feb 1999 17:31:00 GMT

In <QRet2.2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]I can connect with xisp to netcom using PAP authentication but I can't do it
]with the ppp-on script which works well with netcom's other non-PAP POP's


]Feb  1 01:42:15 eagle chat[3068]: CONNECT -- got it
]Feb  1 01:42:15 eagle chat[3068]: send (^M)
]Feb  1 01:42:15 eagle pppd[3067]: Serial connection established.
]Feb  1 01:42:16 eagle pppd[3067]: Using interface ppp0
]Feb  1 01:42:16 eagle pppd[3067]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
]Feb  1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
]Feb  1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Connection terminated.
]Feb  1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
]Feb  1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
]Feb  1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Exit. 

The sympto is that it is NOT using PAP authentication. Rather it wants
logon authentication.  Extend you chat script to expect somethng else
and see what the other end is trying to send you.


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From: Hugh Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:12:00 -0500

Paul Doherty wrote:

> White males are the people in positions of
> prominence in business and government and it has become the fashion to
> snub our authority figures.  This would be analogous to other countries
> poking fun at the USA since we are the eminent economic and military
> force in the world.  Interpret this as you will; I personally consider
> this trend disturbing (that of showing disrespect towards our authority
> figures - not that some aren't worthy of disparaging).


Aw Paul, lighten up. America practically invented undermining
authority figures.  Authority figures benefit from mockery, it helps
deflate the stuffed shirts.

Nobody _has_ to be an authority figure. Those who can't bear the
mockery can become wine merchants, interior decorators, or whatever.

There's a  lot of things in America that deserve ridicule.  Relax
and enjoy it.
-- 
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Zip disk, printer and PPP
Date: 2 Feb 1999 17:27:40 GMT

In <7922vl$qh2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David L. Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:
]serial port.

]With the modem (a Viking 56K DFV/V90, btw), I've run out of things to try. I
]have two books on getting Linux up and running and I've followed directions
]from both. I've also visited a web site and newsgroup posting I read about
]here in this newsgroup and followed those directions. Here's where I'm at
]and what is happening so far:

]On boot, the kernel recognizes the serial bus (port) that the modem is
]connected to (tty03/cua3 in my case). PPP is also configured and recognized
]by the kernel. Setserial correctly reports the status of the port. Doing a
]less/var/log/messages also reports everything should be working fine. I have
]configured resolv.conf, ppp-on, and ppp-on-dialer for my particular
]configuration/ISP/DNS trail, etc. I also used the X version of modem set up
]and all seems fine there.

]When I do an echo "ATDT/n" >/dev/modem, nothing happens, I'm simply returned
]to the root prompt. Have I missed something?

What should happen., You have sent ATDT with no number to the modem.
It then dialed no number -- ie did nothing.
Try connecting with minicom to the modem first.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: My 2 cents worth on man pages
Date: 2 Feb 1999 17:37:48 GMT

In <795001$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Schaffter) 
writes:

>On 31 Jan 1999 17:48:44 -0800, Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Schaffter) writes:
>>
>>> In short, leave the man pages the way they are. Let's get working on
>>> the /usr/docs.

AAAArgh no. The man pages have teh great advantage of convenience. you
can do man ls and figure out what ls is suppsed to do. The doc files are
usisually in some stupid format that you have to hunt around for some
way of unzipping them, detarring them, texing them,  that by the time
you have done so you no longer remember what in the hell you wanted them
for. man may need imporvement, but ease of use is not one of the
improvements needed. Comprehensive documentation is useless if people
cannot figure out how to read it ( and it usually burries the actually
needed informtion so deep you can never find it.).

Please Please Please keep up the man pages, or replace them with
something equally easy to use, not something more comprehensive and
obscuse.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Toffer)
Subject: Re: Laptop touchpad not working
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:35:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Have a look at this site..

        http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

I also had problems with a Latitude, and solved them all there.

Toffer



[EMAIL PROTECTED] (kAos) wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>Recently I tried to install Linux on my laptop (Dell Latitude CPi) I had
>some difficulty setting up the GUI for it. First I tried SUSE 3.2, and
>eventually I got it working, the mouse (touchpad) too. Then I screwed my
>system up, so I decided to put RH 5.2 on it (it's more recent a
>distribution, anyway). I got it working, except the mouse. With SUSE it
>worked straight away, using /dev/psaux for the touchpad. Both the GUI (in
>/etc/XF86Config and in terminal mode with gpm. The same isn't true with my
>Red Hat installation, neither mode recognises the built in mouse. If I
>stick in a serial mouse, and use /dev/ttyS0, it works, but not with the
>internal one. 
>I tried to make several /dev/psaux devices with different minor dev.
>numbers, none worked (mknod -m 660 /dev/psaux 10 0 ->1, 2, 3, ...). And I
>couldn't work out wath major/minor numbers I should use.
>
>Does anyone know how to fix this problem? It's getting really annoying.
>Since I have no access to news groups during the week, I'd really
>appreciate a copy to my mail box too ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
>TIA,
>Akos
>
>-- 
>Change 'SMALLHAND' to 'BIGFOOT' in my email address.


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From: "David Ricardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo question
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:17:13 -0200

I have Win95 and the linux in my HD. The current default boot system is
linux( when the system starts this message: "LILO Boot :" shows up, and if I
press Enter key the linux starts running). My question is :
What's the lilo.conf modification I have to do if I want to start the dos
partition (Win95) by  default (Whenever press Enter key, I want to start the
win95)?
Thanks. From Brazil.



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From: "TEX@go" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: more fonts for netscape
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:45:45 -0600

Search and download!!!!!!!!!!!

Cher-Wah Tan wrote:
> 
> hi!
> 
> wonder how i could get more X fonts to be displayed for my netscape
> under X.  i have installed all the fonts packages that comes with RedHat
> 5.2 distribution but netscape still have only about 6 fonts in its font
> dialog box.
> 
> any help would be great!
> thanks a bunch!
> 
> -w

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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intellipoint Mouse
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:50:31 +0000

    Hmm... I'm a little confused.  I downloaded and installed the rpm with
Glint, but am getting no response whatsoever from the flywheel.  Running
the executable does nothing, and the configuration file placed in the /etc
directory tells me almost nothing.  Is there a step that I'm missing?

Steve




Richard Steiner wrote:

> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >    Has anyone written a utility for making the flywheel on a Microsoft
> >Intellipoint mouse work under X-Windows? (KDE under RH 5.2, to be
> >precise).  I'm not so sure that Microsoft has "gotten around yet" to
> >realeasing the documentation and source code needed to easily write a
> >driver... so I don't know if anyone's been able to reverse-engineer it
> >or not.
>
> This is a possible solution:
>
>   http://solaris1.mysolution.com/~jcatki/imwheel
>
> Not having an IntelliMouse, I've not tested it.  There's also this page
> which might have some helpful information:
>
>   http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
>
> --
>    -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>        OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
>         WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
>                 I'm not a tagline, but I play one on TV...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: Locking up Linux
Date: 2 Feb 1999 23:02:23 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello everyone,
[snip]
>I'm wondering if there is a way to limit user resources in Linux.  I'll
        help ulimit
>cut to the chase.  Here is a simple script that will "lock" up Linux.
[snip the description of Joe Average Forkbomb]
>I'm guessing there is a way to limit a user's resources that would
>prevent this problem or telling the system to reserve so many resources
>for the root login to function properly.  Can anyone help me out here?
        D'oh. It has nothing with Linux and the thing was (re)invented
probably several millions of times. I guess that the first one was launched
by Dennis or Ken when they got particulary bored back in '69 (on UNIX, that
is; no doubt that it was 'invented' waay before). Answer is in any UNIX
book/FAQ/whatever. In Bourne-derived shells (including bash):
ulimit -u 20
(or whatever limit on number of processes you want to set). In csh-derived
ones:
limit maxproc 20
or just
limit ma 20
since abbreviations are allowed. Put it into system-wide profile
(/etc/profile for sh-derived shells, /etc/csh.cshrc for csh-derived ones)
and there you go. man <name of your shell> for other [u]limit options -
forkbombs are not the only way to f*ck the system up. Root can increase
limits, so if you want to have less fascist setup for root just put
milder [u]limit into .profile (or .login for csh-derived shells) in root's
homedir. *Some* limits are needed for root too - fuckups happen.

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:09:01 GMT

On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:13:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>One practical solution is to use a local news server and connect to it.
>Before you run scared, let me say there are at least two servers which are
>very easy to setup, leafnode and noffle. Check them out!

Leafnode should be considered particularly interesting to KDE
aficionados as it was produced originally by the nice folks at Troll
Tech.  (And to those that think Troll Tech are the a rapacious Next
Microsoft Waiting To Happen, please examine Leafnode's licensing...
Might prove surprising...)

I'm not familiar with noffle; please tell more... 

>Even if you decide not to use krn, they are handy because they provide
>some offline reading capabilities to all newsreaders.

Indeed.
-- 
"When people understand what Microsoft is up to, they're outraged."
-- TIM O'REILLY, President, O'Reilly & Associates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/ipnntp.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: libbfd
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:45:49 GMT

Just installed RedHat 5.2 and am trying to port BIND 8.1.2.

When I run make, I receive error messages such as:

gcc  -I../../port/linux/include -I../../include -c ns_parse.c
as: error in loading shared libraries
libbfd-2.9.1.0.15.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory

I'm assuming that I'm missing the libbfd* library, but a search of the entire
system doesn't locate it.  I've checked the RedHat web site among others, and
likewise have not been able to find any reference to it.

Any pointers as to what I need to do are greatly appreciated.






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:30:30 GMT

On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 02:58:15 +0000, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Michael Powe wrote:
>> 
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>     Matthias> Pseudo-religious Linuxism, as stupid as it may be, and
>>     Matthias> atheism, as immature as it often is[*], are IMHO still
>>     Matthias> better than the US kind of patriotism, i.e. patriotism
>>     Matthias> that is attached to totems like flags or to juvenile
>>     Matthias> power fantasies ("We can kick everyone's ass if we want
>>     Matthias> to!").
>> 
>> "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."  -- Samuel Johnson
>
>Or is it the first????

That would be, if memory serves, Ambrose Bierce's observation...

<http://cybernation.com/victory/quotations/subjects/quotes_patriotism.html>
provides a nice listing of quotes for all those that want to explore
this further...

-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to Linux today?..."

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From: "DoctorYeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Spracherkennung
Date: 2 Feb 1999 18:51:46 GMT

Ich suche eine Spracherkennung f�r Linux !!!



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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux help channel
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:49:47 +0000

    I don't know which of the three categories are people are more annoying:

1)  Power-tripping ops that kick and ban people on IRC channels for
disagreeing with some/all of their viewpoints, or failing to stroke their ego
sufficiently.

2)  Chatters that spend 20+ hours on IRC per day BS-ing because they lack the
social skills to make friends in the real world... and both shun and ridicule
"outsiders" that visit channels and are determined to be not as "intelligent"
or "enlightened" as they.

3)  Novices that come into channels expecting or demanding free and courteous
tech support, usually bringing out the worst in those that fall in either of
the previous two categories.

    If you have a problem, it's always best to post it in a newsgroup.  It's
a far better organized forum for such things... people can scan the headers
and focus their attention on the ones that draw their interest or that they
have knowledge about, while not being inconvienced by the vast majority of
ones that don't.  The abbreviation IRC is drawn from the term "chat", and
that's exactly what IRC is for... if you ever expect more beyond that, you
will be disappointed.

Steve




Larry wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:03:51 +0000, lattin96 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have made a new linux help channel on dal net the channel is
> >#linuxhelpers it is for people wanting to help or people in need of
> >help.with redhat,suse,slackware or other dist.and hardware answers
> >Thomas W
> >
>
> My experience with most irc channels is that most people
> get on there and sit and bullshit most of the time and
> DAMNED FEW questions ever get answered. Either that or you
> get treated like a complete embicile, or you get ignored,
> or you get insulted.
>
> I've seen damned few help channels on irc used the way
> they are supposed to be used.


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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:49:59 -0600
From: Steve Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Normal Netscape?

Folks,

When I run Netscape 4.05 on my P90 running RH5.1, with fvwm, and I start
a download (such as one would do to get StarOffice) I can't continue to
surf. Well, not at anything even approaching normal speed, anyway.

On Win95, if I do the same thing, when I go to surf the browser speed is
pretty close to normal but the download speed is momentarily slowed down
because of this. 

For instance, if I start downloading something big on Win95, the speed
might be 3.6k/sec. If I start browsing a lot, then it might dip to
2k/sec, and then come back up when I stop browsing.

But in Linux the speed stays the same and the browser gets whatever
bandwidth is left (not much).

Is there any way to make my Linux Netscape behave like the Win95
netscape?

Thanks!

Steve

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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Email and Pop3 accounts
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:40:43 +0000

Last I checked Pegasus was not yet ported to LINUX.  As you can see I posted
this to a Linux newsgroup meaning I am using ONLY Linux.  I know Netscape
has a feature under Windows that will allow different profiles but this does
not yet exist under Linux unless I become a different user and fire up
Netscape again.
Once again, I am looking for an email client that works well under Linux
that allows for checking of multiple POP3 servers.
Thanks.
KJ


Topher wrote:

> Kerry,
>
> PEGASUS is pretty good in this arena.
>
> Topher.
>
> "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have several other email accounts aside from my main one.  I would
> >like to know if there are any other good email clients aside from my own
> >Netscape program that I can use to check other POP3 accounts.  Currently
> >I have to go into Netscape's Preferences and change Mail & Groups every
> >time I want to check my email on another system, say like the one I have
> >in Wisconsin and the one I have in Utah.  Is there any easier way to do
> >this, or are there any other comparable email programs that make
> >checking alternate POP3 easy?  I have fiddled with Pine and Emacs, but
> >can't get them to check other POP3s.  Any good HOWTOs out there or
> >anyone willing to share their knowledge with a neophyte?
> >Thanks.
> >KJ
> >


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Time Server Clients
Date: 2 Feb 1999 19:53:20 +0100

In article <OmHt2.392$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Pitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am running RH 5.2 did any kind of Time Server client come with this
>release, and if not what is available to use to sync my server's time up
>with and Internet time server.
>
>

Want rdate or xntp?  both are on your CD.

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Subject: FTP question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick G)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:59:09 GMT

Recently placed my RH5.2 box behind another Linux firewall.  Opened up ports 
21, 80, 1000 and up thinking that should cover ftp, apache webserver, I ssh 
into the same machine but different ip where I have 22 open for that.

Question:  When I ftp to the box I can login and change directory with 
everything working fine.  Soon as I do "ls" the ftp client or shell freezes 
eventually I receive an error "Can't build data connection" and that's that.

Any help would be appreciated,

Rick G


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