Linux-Misc Digest #884, Volume #18 Wed, 3 Feb 99 18:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: Emacs problems (Michael Powe)
Re: Info or man pages for C/C++ functions? (Michael Powe)
perlmagick (merman)
Re: QIC02 TAPE, SuSE 5.3.. how to install and read? Thank you fellows in advance!
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HElp, i can't compile (Jarvis)
Re: HElp, i can't compile (Jarvis)
Re: PPP PAP & Netcom? (Kelly Hanna)
Re: Suggestions for new Linux Fortran compiler (Michael Kagalenko)
Re: How to make it run faster? (Dave)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Ciaran Dunn")
buffer size w/ vi (Ryan Daly)
kernel panic 2.2 (Joshua Udall)
Re: MP3 does not play ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: use theramin as input device (steve mcadams)
Re: use theramin as input device (steve mcadams)
Re: Burning CD-R of long filenames in distrib? (David Chien)
Re: Discouraged Newbie.. Please help! :-) (Ed Young)
Re: RHLinux "Deluxe" vs 'regular' RHL 5.2 (Steve)
Re: CD-RW as backup alternative (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (gs)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Emacs problems
Date: 03 Feb 1999 13:36:42 -0800
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>>>>> "Matt" == Matt Caswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matt> My problem is with emacs. When I fire it up under X it
Matt> doesn't display properly. The text starts *underneath* the
Matt> scroll bar on the left hand side of the window. I am able to
Matt> type properly, but the characters appear on the screen with
Matt> a really wide spacing between each character (pressing C-L
Matt> after typing corrects this problem - but its a real pain).
Matt> If I page up or page down then the window becomes corrupted,
Matt> with portions of my document all of the place (again I have
Matt> to press C-L). Similarly the mini-buffer is doing wierd
Matt> things.
Matt> I can't think what the problem could be. I've tried playing
Matt> around with some of the settings in my .Xdefaults, but I
Matt> don't know what to change.
Yes, you're using proportional fonts. Change your fonts to
mono-spaced fonts like courier or lucidatypewriter and things will
snap back into place. Quick test -- click on the Mule menu and choose
`Set Font/Fontset,' then select something like `Courier 12' and I'm
sure you'll see the problem cleared up immediately.
Put something like this in your .Xdefaults file:
emacs*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-12-90-100-*-m-\
70-iso8859-1
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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- --
Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Info or man pages for C/C++ functions?
Date: 03 Feb 1999 13:50:16 -0800
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>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Thomas> Does anyone know if there is somewhere I can get info/man
Thomas> pages for standard C/C++ functions and identifiers in
Thomas> addition to those that come with Redhat 5.2?
The standard GNU C library functions are described in the info files
that come with the GNU libraries. `info libc' should bring them up if
you have them. This is the `GNU C Library Reference Manual,' which
can also be purchased in printed form from the FSF.
AFAIK the corresponding files for C++ have been withdrawn from
distribution, but there may be some copies out there on the web
... somewhere.
mp
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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: merman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: perlmagick
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:05:00 -0600
Just installed RH 5.2. Using a program that needs perlmagick. Have
downloaded the latest tar version. Not sure what to put on the LIB and
INC paths in the Makefile.PL. Current paths aren't correct since they
point to dirs that don't exist on Linux.
The instructions are:
edit Makefile.PL and change LIBS and INC to include the
appropriate path information to the required libMagick library. You
will also need library search paths (-L) to JPEG, PNG, TIFF,
etc. libraries if they were included with your installed
version of ImageMagick. If an extension library is built as a
shared library but not installed in the system's default
library search path, you may need to add run-path information
(often -R or -rpath) corresponding to the equivalent library
search path option so that the library can be located at
run-time.
current entries in Makefile.PL are:
WriteMakefile(
'NAME' => 'Image::Magick',
'VERSION_FROM' => 'Magick.pm', # finds $VERSION
'LIBS' => ['-L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
-R/usr/openwin/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lMagick -lX11
-lsock
et -lnsl -lXext -lXt -ldpstk -ldps -lm'],
'DEFINE' => '', # e.g., '-DHAVE_SOMETHING'
'INC' => '-I../magick -I/usr/local/include/magick
-I/usr/openwin/include -I/usr/openwin/include/X11',
);
If anyone has already done this setup or if anyone can help, it is
appreciated.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: QIC02 TAPE, SuSE 5.3.. how to install and read? Thank you fellows in
advance!
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:41:07 GMT
In article <78vgn6$jvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Blackey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello!
> I have old fashion QIC02 Tape (150MB extended to 250MB) which is connected
> through slot as modem etc and then, as a 25pin connector to the external
> drive. I think that manufacturer is ARCHIVE.
>
> According instructions I made new kernel but I don't know how to init
> (mount) and to read data from tape.
Look at your kernel's messages "/var/log/messages" or "dmesg" and
see if your adapter is recognized. You'll find some info
in "/usr/src/linux/drivers/char/tpqic02.c". Also, look in
"/usr/src/linux/Documentation/device.txt" for QIC-02. You can
define an environment variable "export TAPE=/dev/xxx", where
xxx is the correct device for your drive. Then tar, mt, ...
will use your tape drive, won't have to use "-f" parameter.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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From: Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HElp, i can't compile
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:44:13 +0800
#include <stdio.h>
void main(void)
{
printf("Hello world\n");
}
I get the same error when i try to compile this
Ben Russo wrote:
> Jarvis wrote:
>
> > I am using slackware 3.0 and i can't seem to compile with cc or gcc
> > i get the following error with a simple c program
> >
> > test.c: In function `main':
> > test.c:4: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
> >
> > Anyone can help?
> > thanks
>
> Send the source code of the file.
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From: Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HElp, i can't compile
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:46:09 +0800
I get that that error message when i compile that simple printf program
thanks for helping
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelly Hanna)
Subject: Re: PPP PAP & Netcom?
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:05:23 GMT
I had a similar problem with Netcom. The following I hope will help,
otherwise go to comp.protocols.ppp. Post your ppp settings & log
files there.
=======Snip=======
Thanks to James Carlson and Clifford Kite - Their were informative
and helpful. To to those who follow and need to know how to get onto
netcom using pap use the following:
In options file -
name \#username
In the pap-secrets file
#user remotename secrect
\#username * pass
Thank again -
Kelly Hanna
On 30 Jan 1999 13:37:51 -0500, James Carlson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelly Hanna) writes:
>> The question is since netcom's usenames/Login names are of the form
>> #foobar coud this cause problems.
>
>Perhaps. Try quoting the name as "#foobar" or escaping as \#foobar in
>the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. Note also that you'll want to use the
>"name" option in pppd to set your local name, since it's unlikely to
>be #foobar on your Linux system.
>
>> Jan 28 05:54:07 pooh pppd[5131]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1a <auth pap>]
>
>pppd usually rejects PAP only if it has no /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file
>or if the file is not readable or if "refuse-pap" is given.
>
>--
>James Carlson, Consulting S/W Engineer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>IronBridge Networks / 55 Hayden Avenue 71.246W Vox: +1 781 372 8132
>Lexington MA 02421-7996 / USA 42.423N Fax: +1 781 372 8090
>"PPP Design and Debugging" --- http://people.ne.mediaone.net/carlson/ppp
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:54:56 GMT, eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can connect with xisp to netcom using PAP authentication but I can't do it
>with the ppp-on script which works well with netcom's other non-PAP POP's
>
>Here's what I'm getting:
>
>Feb 1 01:42:15 eagle chat[3068]: CONNECT -- got it
>Feb 1 01:42:15 eagle chat[3068]: send (^M)
>Feb 1 01:42:15 eagle pppd[3067]: Serial connection established.
>Feb 1 01:42:16 eagle pppd[3067]: Using interface ppp0
>Feb 1 01:42:16 eagle pppd[3067]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
>Feb 1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
>Feb 1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Connection terminated.
>Feb 1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
>Feb 1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
>Feb 1 01:42:46 eagle pppd[3067]: Exit.
>
>Anyone know what could be going wrong or how to debug this?
>
>Thanks!
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kagalenko)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new Linux Fortran compiler
Date: 3 Feb 1999 17:13:45 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Russo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
]"Frank T. Sronce" wrote:
]
]> Well, I'm administering a fairly new Redhat Linux 5.2 machine and it
]> looks like we need to get a commercial Fortran compiler for it. I've
]> been using g77/fort77 for most things, but I need to port over code that
]> was designed for the Sun F77 compiler, which implements a superset of
]> F77 Fortran. The code won't compile on our Linux box, apparently
]> because of those additional features (like the Format (q) statment, and
]> allowing Implicit None to appear in the middle of declarations).
]>
]> So, I'm looking for a new compiler which has more capabilities and which
]> will compile this code (and hopefully any future code we have similar
]> problems with). Has anyone got any recommendations on what compiler to
]> get? Or pointers to where I could find useful info?
]>
]> Frank Sronce
]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
]
]Find out if Sun F77 compiler is available in Solaris-x86 or BSDx86 or
]SCOx86 flavors, if so you may be able to run that compiler and it's
]libraries under Linux with the intel binary compatability loaded in the
]kernel.
Sun f90 is really bad. They planned to released new version that would fix
all those nasty bugs in f90 v. 1.2, but I haven't heard anything from them.
Also, their technical support ignores bug reports.
As for running Sun f90 under Linux, you would probably need Solaris
libraries. Although Solaris is free for non-commercial use, such
use of the libraries may be against the license.
It's a pity DVF isn't available for Linux
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:58:20 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAZOR;
Checkout the January 99 Linux Gazzette at http://wwwssc.com/lg/ The
article Linux on a Shoestring gives some tips running linux on older
slower machines.
RAZOR wrote:
>
> Hey guys :-)
> I have my second puter that is 486/66mhz ,16 mb ram with Redhat 5.1
> installed. My swap partition is 65 mb, and I'm running AnotherLevel
> X-Windows (w95 look). So X-Windows is running kinda slow. Even programs in
> control panel are running slow(or any other basic programs).Although I read
> everywhere that Linux is bringing back to life all that old machines, even
> freaking Winblows is running faster on this puter.
> What is the way to increase performance? I mean without hardware upgrades
> and increasing swap partition (I don't have any more space). I have Redhat
> 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 releases, may be I should install v5.0? Or may be another
> windows manager?
> Dudes, ANY, ANY tips are appreciated, especially from dudes who have the
> same puter. :-)
> Thanx in advance
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From: "Ciaran Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:23:25 +1100
pdohert wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Ciaran Dunn wrote:
>> And what will all this high tech weaponry tech get you ?
><>
>> All you seem to be doing is letting off some nice pretty weapons,
>> killing a bunch of reasonably innocent people and not really
>> acheiving anything.
>
>And we appreciate your help in achieving nothing... Britain is in this
>too (and you are a colony of Britain, no?)
Well no. Unless you also consider India, South Africa or even America
a colony of GB. They are all ex-colonies.
Cheers,
Ciaran
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From: Ryan Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: buffer size w/ vi
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:57:36 -0500
Does anyone know how to modify the buffer size that vi uses?
I'm trying to edit a large file (240mb) and it's complaining that the
file is too big.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
--
Ryan Daly
Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC)
100 CTC Drive
Johnstown, PA 15904-1935 USA
PGP Fingerprint: 91 3E E1 09 16 D1 5A 67 1A CA 16 C7 E0 C1 74 72
PGP Key: ftp.ctc.com:/pub/PGP-keys/daly.asc
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From: Joshua Udall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel panic 2.2
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:42:23 -0600
I just compiled 2.2.0. Currently I have 2.0.36 installed.
I had to use bzImage cause I got errors with zImage saying
it was too large. when I boot it starts as normal until the
partition check. I.e. it says kernel ok, goes through and
recognizes my SCSI 1542 etc. I get the following when it
starts looking at the fs:
Partition check:
hdc: dirver not present
VFS: cannot open root device 16:01
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount fs on 16:01
It got to be that I've missed something in the xconfig,
there's something with the system.map that I didn't touch,
or the lilo.conf. Below is my lilo.conf:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
label=linux
root=/dev/hdc1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.36-0.7.img
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=win
table=/dev/hda
image=/boot/bzImage
label=2.2
root=/dev/hdc1
plese reply with an email to me as well as the group
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MP3 does not play
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:10:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rodrigo Castro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Linux 2.2.1 in a Pentium box. I have always played Mp3 files in
> linux with x11amp player but recently it stopped. I don't what happens
> but it plays a little and stops. I can play waves and whatever I want
> except MP3 (x11amp) that used to work. Any idea?
>
> Thank you
> Rodrigo Castro
>
>
Same problem here... Please let me know if you find an answer :-)
Thank you,
Adam Christensen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:56:51 GMT
I did receive one offline followup, haven't checked it out yet, was
probably also posted to group but hasn't arrived yet:
>From: Nelson Minar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 03 Feb 1999 16:45:28 -0500
>
>Yes, we have a project exactly like that. Look at Josh's work
> http://www.media.mit.edu/~jrs/
>in particular "LazyFish".
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On 2 Feb 1999 22:40:39 GMT, Paul English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>To the original poster -- if you get any replies offline, please post a
>followup summarizing the information (or at very least email it to me!).
========================================================
so what? - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:56:48 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:19:33 -0800, Allen Crider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Do you mean that '50s sci-fi sound machine? Where do you get one of those?
Yep, that's the gizmo. You control it by waving your hands around a
couple of antenna. There are some places you can buy them on the web
but they look solidly into the musical scene. -steve
========================================================
so what? - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning CD-R of long filenames in distrib?
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:44:35 -0800
Thanks! RockRidge it is...
Of course, after downloading it, buring the files in Linux, and then looking
around again, I found the 'easier' way: Linux RedHat ISO at
http://linux.ucs.uark.edu/
david =)
...sigh....
Oh, the ISO you can burn even under Windows. Just use any program that'll
burn a standard ISO, eg. Adaptec EZ-CD Creator (eg 3.5 is the latest ver).
Select burn image from the File menu, then select ISO rather than CIF in the
file selection menu.
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Discouraged Newbie.. Please help! :-)
Date: 3 Feb 1999 22:53:29 GMT
Linux requires quite a bit of reading. I encourage you to study a lot if you
have the time. The view is *definitely* worth the climb. And the view is
getting better by the day. To answer some of your specific questions.
1. I would recommend that you stick with rpm files for a
while instead of trying to compile software. A very
good selection can be found at:
http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/
Learn rpm. It is your friend in a big way.
2. Download and install RedHat's XFree86*-3.3.3.1*.i386.rpm's.
These can be found at:
ftp://updates.redhat.com
Use XF86Setup program to set up your X Window Server. It
does a very good job of helping you, including getting the
16bpp and screen size correct. It uses xvidtune to help
you fine tune the picture (size, left, right, up, down).
3. After a while the gibberish will start to make sense. Don't
expect instant nirvana. Tackle one thing at a time, get a
success, celebrate, then press on.
4. RedHat install puts a file in /tmp which logs the install.
Did this file indicate any problems?
It is hard at first, and frustrating. Courage man.
And have fun...
The Grogers wrote:
>
> I'm having so many problems with my installation of Red Hat 5.2, that I'm
> considering giving up! If you could give me even hints on any of these, it
> would be greatly appreciated!!
>
> 1. I get a GCC error most every time I try to install a program. I
> installed a new version of GCC from ftp, but to no avail. It gets the error
> when checking to see if it has a working copy of a C compiler.
>
> 2. I have a Trident 9440, which absolutely refuses to load in 800x600,
> 16bpp. It works fine in Win98, but in Linux no matter what settings I try,
> it would only load the server in 640x480, 8bpp! What is going on? I don't
> have money to spend on expensive drivers.
>
> 3. I also have a Opti931 sound card which I need, but every page that I can
> find on the card and linux gives me all the gibberish (that is, to me) about
> recompiling the kernel?? make?? sound module?? AHHH!!
>
> 4. My last question. I tried to run the Midnight Commander immediatly
> after installing Red Hat, but without changing anything, it tells me it's
> missing libtcl.so. What on earth!!
>
> Thanks!!
> Moishe Groger
>
> P.S. Please don't email me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: RHLinux "Deluxe" vs 'regular' RHL 5.2
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:53:40 GMT
I couldn't stand the prices in the store, so I mail ordered mine for
$1.99. I couldn't even see paying 15.95 for a book that included it.
Talk about being cheap! So I am...
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:40:50 -0800, "R.L.F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Boy do I have the same problem.
>I registered it with MacMillan but can not get any support from them.
>-Rudy
>
>Steve Sorden wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>I bought the deluxe version, thinking I was purchasing the official Red
>>Hat product. I didn't realize that it had different tech support until I
>>tried to register this weekend at Red Hat's web site.
>>
>>Although I'm satisfied with the CDs and manual, my question is whether
>>Red Hat makes any money off these sales (to support on-going research
>>and development), or is MacMillan taking advantage of the Open License
>>and simply trying to make outrageous profit off of free software? My
>>package listed at $40, although I didn't pay that due to a rebate.
>>
>>Also, I believe Red Hat provides 90 days of tech support, while
>>Macmillan only provides 30.
>>
>>Steve Sorden
>>
>>
>>Harold K L Ting wrote:
>>>
>>> It appears that the 'deluxe' version is a Macmillan press product, not
>Redhat's
>>> and therefore is not supported by Redhat. It says so on the CD jacket.
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> > officemax has the deluxe for "free after rebates"! get it before its
>gone
>>> >
>>> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Wendel) wrote:
>>> > > On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 04:58:50 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hsieh) wrote:
>>> > > I just bought the Deluxe version today, and there certainly was a
>>> > > floppy in the package... as well as a hard copy, bound book, and 3
>>> > > cds... I tried 3 different times to d/l rh5.2, as well as the suse
>and
>>> > > debian releases, and never managed to get them to install properly.
>>> > > The only install I ever got running well was the Slackware install,
>>> > > and it was a pain to do some things with... (I am too lazy to bother
>>> > > with figuring out all the stuff in advance). Figuring all the time I
>>> > > have involved with the d/ls, failed installs and hours of
>frustration,
>>> > > I think the 39.95 is well spent.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
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>>> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: CD-RW as backup alternative
Date: 3 Feb 1999 16:54:37 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Kerry J. Cox" wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>> I was wondering what the feasibility would be to install a CD-RW on my
>> Linux box and have it be used to backup all my Solaris machines here at
>> work? How would I go about backing up critical files from off the Sun
>> Solaris machines then onto a CD-RW? Would you recommend using ufsdump
>> or tarring them up or setting up a selective process to back up certain
>> files?
>Not enough capacity, it would take 3 CD's to back up every 2Gig disk.
>Network latency would kill your CDwrites, so you would have to copy
>an entire disks contents to the writer system, then build the CD image,
>then write it. Way too slow.
This really depends on how much is critical and how often it needs
to be saved. 600K is a lot of data if you are only concerned about
what you have typed yourself. It it very easy to let a linux
box NFS mount the data directory (although I've always had some
trouble with Solaris on the other end...) and just make iso9660
images with both the unix and MS long file extensions so you could
get to the files from just about anything. It is also a good way
to archive logfiles and the like that just accumulate forever.
>CD's work ok for backing up a source tree on
>major version number or for backing up log files once a month. But
>definitely
>not a nightly or weekly solution for lot's of boxes.
You could do a CD-RW nightly cycling through several before erasing
and re-using. It is slow, but a person is only needed to change
the disk.
>Also, you won't find any archive software solutions that work off of CD's.
If you write in a standard format and can organize things to fit, you
don't need anything special to get the files back.
>I haven't used it, but AMANDA probably has about the same functionality
>and is Free of Charge, but there is no 24x7 support if you are sick and
>the
>server crashes what happens to the company? Legato will send out a
>specialist
>technician who could figure out our systems with the DBA's and users and
>then
>restore the servers if I was gone.
Amanda takes some time to set up but pretty much takes care of itself
afterwards. It uses the machine's standard facilities (dump or tar)
but appends a header record to each run on the tape so it takes
special handling to extract. It isn't particularly difficult but
it would be a good idea to document the procedure. Hmmm, I guess
I should do that now...
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: gs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:48:45 -0500
Martin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Art VanDelay allegedly wrote:
> >>On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:12:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster) wrote:
> >>
> >>>On
> >>>m$ _crossed_ the line when the integrated the browser and OS out of
> >>>their paranoia of what applications running on NS could do to Windows.
> >>
> >>This doesn't make any sense.
> >
> >Makes plenty of sense.
> >
>
> ..
>
> >
> >> or CD-Player people,
> >
> >Of course, that's not a major application like a web browser.
> >
>
> Seems strange to me that the establishment decided to make a stand over a
> web-browser. When I first started to use the web, it was with Mosaic which was
> completely free. Netscape latched onto the idea and tried to commercialize it
> though they released their products for free download over the net for a long
> time. There are still free web-browsers around - how can you describe it as a
> major application? And why prosecute MS for making theirs free as well? I use
> the web every day - and I pay for the service - but I would never consider
> paying for a browser while there are usable free ones available. I know
> several people who dislike MS IE explorer, but they use old versions of
> Netscape from before the time that it was necessary to pay for it! My Redhat
> Linux came with a copy of Netscape which I use - I was never asked to pay for
> it - is that anti-competitive?
rpm -e netscape-communicator
rpm -e netscape-common
now try doing the same in windows 98 with IE4 (without re-installing and
using win98lite :)
> Martin.
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