Linux-Misc Digest #884, Volume #23               Sat, 18 Mar 00 13:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh! (Dances With Crows)
  Licq convertion scripts (Luc Bergeron)
  IMAP Mailclient w/ offline functionality ? (Guido Wimmel)
  Re: Licq convertion scripts (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch! (Nick Kew)
  Re: 2 hard disk setup (Stewart Honsberger)
  First Time Compiling Kernel (John)
  Re: 2 hard disk setup (Dances With Crows)
  Re: 2 hard disk setup (Leonard Evens)
  NO CONNECT send (Frank)
  Re: Newbie question ("Garen Erdoisa")
  streaming audio/video (David Mehringer)
  Re: First Time Compiling Kernel (Paul Kimoto)
  Books ("blind")
  Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Enterprise backup solution? ("Edd Flammer")
  Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
  EMC model 1427 specs? (Michael Byron Baer)
  Real player 7 on RH 6.1 / KDE2 (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Truetype Chinese and Japanese Fonts (Donovan Rebbechi)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh!
Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:10:19 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[posted and mailed, irrelevant group snipped]
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:41:43 GMT, Don Werve 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
shouted forth into the ether:
>Ok.  After reading the Bootdisk-HOWTO and rdev manpages, I decided to
>start on the path to true geekdom and make my own Linux bootdisk, so

Did this path to true Linux geekdom include reading the Bootdisk-HOWTO?
Obviously not...

>Anyways, I made a root filesystem that compressed takes up 900K, and
>have a 460K kernel.  I used dd to copy the kernel image to the disk, and
>then used `rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0 ; rdev -R /dev/fd0 0` to set the disk
>as it's own root device.  How do you tell the kernel where to look for a
>compressed root filesystem, so that it can be uncompressed into a
>ramdisk and booted...?

If your kernel really is 460K in size, then it's:
   # rdev -r /dev/fd0 16844
The final number is 460 + 16384, and the formula for getting this number
is contained in section 6 of the Bootdisk-HOWTO.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO.html

>Ideas?  Sorry about the cross-post, but it seemed applicable to each
>newsgroup posted to.  Please reply via E-Mail, to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If it's in the HOWTO, I wouldn't bother the development NGs with it.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Licq convertion scripts
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:10:49 -0500

anyone knows how to use the licq converters scripts ?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guido Wimmel)
Subject: IMAP Mailclient w/ offline functionality ?
Date: 18 Mar 2000 16:15:29 GMT

I am looking for a mailclient software that
supports IMAP and can also be used offline
(i.e., the mail folders on the server are
synchronized with those on my local
harddisk, so that I can read my mail without
having to be permanently connected to the Internet)
Preferrably with XWindows-GUI.

Netscape 4.x seems to support that, but
only for the Windows version, and so
far I have been unsuccessful to find
anything else.

Would be grateful if anyone could
point me to such a program or tell
me that this really doesn�t exist
(yet).

Cheers,
-- Guido Wimmel

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Licq convertion scripts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:16:40 GMT

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:10:49 -0500, Luc Bergeron wrote:
>anyone knows how to use the licq converters scripts ?

What's the problem? Run it, and it'll tell you what parameters it wants.

Ferexample;

licq.micqconvert requires the name of your MICQ config file passed to it.

ie; licq.micqconvert ~/.micqrc

If you RTFM, you won't have these problems, y'know.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch!
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:18:50 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Really? Memory and resource hog? 
>>   PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIME    CPU COMMAND
>>   687 exushml    1  23    0   17M   15M sleep  13:36  1.18% xemacs-20.4

A major hog indeed.  Now I get along nicely with:

  1245 nick       0   0   620  620   440 S       0  0.1  0.6   0:00 vi

Actually what put me off emacs for several years was no less than that
stupid tutorial - by the time it's told me how to hold the mouse (or
whatever the irrelevant crap it starts with really is) I've got fed up.
With vi, the quick reference card was an ideal intro.
I still find those multikey (M-x) sequences too much like hard work
for general-purpose text editing.

-- 
Nick Kew

We're so advanced here ... our nearest main road is called the A 386

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: 2 hard disk setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:24:19 GMT

On 18 Mar 2000 11:02:23 EST, Dances With Crows wrote:
>>Hi I am new to linux but want to now put win98 on hard disk 1 and Red Hat
>>6.0 on hard disk 2. Where do I install lilo during the red hat setup?.

If you want to use LILO as your boot manager, install it to the MBR. Lilo
will (should) be placed on the MBR of your primary HDD.

>If you don't want Linux to "contaminate" your WinXX setup,

How could Linux "contaminate" any other OS's setup, except via PEBKAC
errors?!?

>I reccommend this because LILO seems to have a hard time living anywhere
>but on the first hard drive.

How d'ya figure?

Firstly, if you're using LILO as your boot manager, it MUST be on the MBR of
the first HDD. That's where the BIOS looks to boot the system. If you put
LILO on the MBR of the SECOND HDD, you'd never see it.

Secondly, I have 2 HDDs here. 1 4GiB and 1 2GiB drive. On my 4GiB (primary
master) drive, I have a 500MeB Win'98 partition (primary), one 400MeB OS/2
Warp partition, and a 3.3GiB extended partition.

On my 2GiB (primary slave) drive, I have a 1.8GiB Linux partition (primary),
one 200MeB Linux partition (also primary), and a 64MeB extended partition.

LILO resides within the first primary partition of my primary slave drive.

>Oddly enough, having WinXX on the slave drive won't break WinXX!

Win'9x must be installed to the first visible primary partition. Have you
ever suceeded in having Win'9x installed to a logical partition?

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: First Time Compiling Kernel
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:26:33 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I've downloaded kernel 2.3.99-pre1, and am trying to install it on a
test machine. The machine was previously configured with RH6.0, upgraded
to RH6.1

I'm getting some compile errors, which I presume is due to error in the
.config file, but I want to be sure, particularly because it seems like
the make process is going through the directories associated with a
previous kernel.

To retrace my steps (after I backed up the current kernel):

1. copied linux-2.3.99-pre1.tar.gz to /usr/src
2. per README file, decompressed it with gzip -cd linux-2.3.XX.tar.gz |
tar xvf - 
3. this created /usr/src/linux, and I changed directory to
/usr/src/linux.
4. I ran make xconfig and set my options
5. I ran make mrproper
6. I ran make dep. At this point I noticed the make process was printing
lots of references to "entering direcory /usr/src/linux-2.2.12 and
various subdiretories beneath it.
7. I ran make bzImage and get the following compile errors printed
below.

I've been working with linux since RH6.0, and have installed it on two
servers at my office, in addition to the machines I have at home. I've
been getting pretty proficient, and appreciate any help or suggestions
related to this problem so that I can continue my progress. I've tried
changing a few of the .config file options, but haven't gotten past the
errors below. If it weren't for all the references to the older kernel's
directory, I'd continue changing options, but given since the reference
make me uncertain that that's actually the problem, I'd appreciate any
guidance before proceeding. Thanks.

(compile errors referenced in #7):

make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/drivers/char/drm'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe   -DCPU=686
-march=i686 -fno-strict-aliasing   -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c tdfx_drv.c
In file included from drmP.h:53,
                 from tdfx_drv.c:32:
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:36: warning:
`SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:51: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:38: warning:
`spin_lock_init' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:54: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:46: warning:
`spin_unlock_wait' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:58: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:47: warning:
`spin_is_locked' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:56: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:101: warning:
`spin_trylock' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:57: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:128: warning:
`RW_LOCK_UNLOCKED' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:114: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:159: warning: `read_unlock'
redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:118: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:160: warning:
`write_unlock' redefined
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:120: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
In file included from drmP.h:53,
                 from tdfx_drv.c:32:
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:26: conflicting types for
`spinlock_t'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:50: previous declaration
of `spinlock_t'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:73: parse error before
`void'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:88: parse error before `do'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:118: conflicting types for
`rwlock_t'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/spinlock.h:113: previous declaration
of `rwlock_t'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:141: parse error before
`void'
/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/asm/spinlock.h:150: parse error before
`void'
make[4]: *** [tdfx_drv.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/drivers/char/drm'
make[3]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/drivers/char/drm'
make[2]: *** [_subdir_drm] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/drivers/char'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_char] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/drivers'
make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: 2 hard disk setup
Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:33:51 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:24:19 GMT, Stewart Honsberger 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
shouted forth into the ether:
>If you want to use LILO as your boot manager, install it to the MBR. Lilo
>will (should) be placed on the MBR of your primary HDD.
>
>>If you don't want Linux to "contaminate" your WinXX setup,
>
>How could Linux "contaminate" any other OS's setup, except via PEBKAC
>errors?!?

...there are *always* pleas for help from people who installed LILO on the
MBR of a hard disk used in a dual-boot system, decide they don't like
Linux, remove it, and are still confronted with a LILO prompt on bootup.
Then they get confused and hostile.  I wanted to nip this potential
disaster in the bud.

>>Oddly enough, having WinXX on the slave drive won't break WinXX!
>Win'9x must be installed to the first visible primary partition. Have you
>ever suceeded in having Win'9x installed to a logical partition?

No.  But if the Linux disk has no FAT partitions, it will be "invisible"
to Win9x.... hence the first primary partition on the Win9x disk will be
mounted as C:, just like before (at least in my experience.)

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 hard disk setup
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:21:25 -0600

Ian Storey wrote:
> 
> Hi I am new to linux but want to now put win98 on hard disk 1 and Red Hat
> 6.0 on hard disk 2. Where do I install lilo during the red hat setup?. Is it
> on disk 1 or 2 Iwant it so if I type dos windows installs or if I dont type
> anything linux will install by itself.
> Thanks

The standard location for the lilo boot loader is the master
boot record of the first disk.   This has always worked for
me in dual boot systems with Windows 95/98 in a partition
on the first disk.   One does encounter problems with NT
(and presumably also with Windows 2000), so there is an
alternative in that case.

You have to have some boot loader on the first disk in any
case, unless you are willing to boot Linux with a floppy.
But with the configuration you describe, you would have to
create a small Linux partition or something similar on the
first disk in which to put the lilo boot loader if you don't
want it in the master boot record.

Putting the lilo boot loader in the master boot record of the
second disk, in your case, is pointless.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: NO CONNECT send
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:08:50 +0100

Hello,

I can dial out with my ISDN and the dial-in also works
right now. Except mgetty hangs on:

03/18 17:58:46 yI0  waiting for ``CONNECT''
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   got: ATA[0d][0d][0a]NO CARRIER

The complete log goes as follows.

03/18 17:58:42 yI0  waiting...
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   checking lockfiles, locking the line
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   makelock(ttyI0) called
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   do_makelock: lock='/var/lock/LCK..ttyI0'
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   lock made
03/18 17:58:46 yI0  wfr: waiting for ``RING''
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   got: [0d][0a]CALLER NUMBER: 617[0d]
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   got: [0a]RING[0d]
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   wfr: rc=0, drn=0
03/18 17:58:46 yI0  send: ATA[0d]
03/18 17:58:46 yI0  waiting for ``CONNECT''
03/18 17:58:46 yI0   got: ATA[0d][0d][0a]NO CARRIER
03/18 17:59:17 yI0  found action string: ``NO CARRIER''
03/18 17:59:17 ##### failed A_FAIL dev=ttyI0, pid=656, caller='617',
conn='', name=''

It looks that Windows doesn't send a CONNECT. Any solutions?

My mgetty.config goes as follows:
...
port ttyI0
        init-chat "" ATZ OK ATS14=0 OK AT&E3 OK AT&B512 OK
        answer-chat "" ATA CONNECT \c \r
        data-only yes
        modem-type data
        speed 115200
...

Thanks in advance for replying

Frank

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From: "Garen Erdoisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:11:02 -0700


WL <will@$pammer$.net (my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED])> wrote in
message news:8b00kh$49vrp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> And how do I use that?
download the program, then unpack it:

tar -xzvf fmirror*.tar.gz
cd fmirror*/
make

once the program is compiled, put it in /bin or /usr/bin

to use it type:

fmirror -f config.file

example config file that will download the redhat updates:
#--------------------------------cut
here---------------------------------------------
#!/usr/bin/fmirror -f

username: anonymous
password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
host:  metalab.unc.edu
remotedir: /pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/updates/current/
localdir: /home/someone/metalab/redhat/updates/current/
compressed: 1
decompressor: gzip
decompressor_opt: -dc
dircmd:  RETR ls-lR.gz
passive: 1
verbosity: 3
# the normal excludes first
exclude: f ^(\.in\.|\.mirror|core$|MIRROR\.LOG|\.notar|\.message)
exclude: f ^(\.cache|\.zipped|lost\+found|Network Thrash Folder|ls-lR)

# only mirror the current redhat update binaries.
exclude: p ^(SRPMS)/

# don't get alpha or sparc stuff
exclude: p (^|/)(alpha|sparc)/

#------------------------------cut here----------------------------------
You can read the manual page as follows for more information, also look at
the other sample config files included:

cd fmirror*/
man ./fmirror.1

chow
Garen


>
> Will
>
> Garen Erdoisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:RYeA4.15$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > WL <will@$pammer$.net (my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED])> wrote in
> > message news:8argpd$3ouns$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Garen Erdoisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:OlUz4.14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > ncftp some.archive.site
> > > > help get
> > > > get -R directory/
> > >
> > > But I need to use bgget, because I need to get over 150 directories,
and
> > > that totals over 100MBs.  What do you suggest?
> >
> > In that case use fmirror.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > --
> > > Web Developer and Programmer for Lukrative Media Ltd
> > > http://www.lukrative.com
> > > Domain Names-> http://CreativeNames.co.uk
> > > Classified Ads-> http://www.LocalAds.Net
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you want to automate this, you can use an ftp mirror program.
> There
> > > are
> > > > several out there, mirror, fmirror, etc.
> > > > If you do use a mirror program be carefull that you deticate the
local
> > > > target directory to that particular remote directory.
> > > >
> > > > I've made the mistake in the past of designating an wrong local
> > directory
> > > > and had the mirror program (working as intended) delete everything
> > locally
> > > > in that directory tree that wasn't also on the remote site.  No
major
> > harm
> > > > done, but something to keep in mind.  :)
> > > >
> > > > fmirror can be gotten from
ftp://ftp.guardian.no/pub/free/ftp/fmirror/
> > > which
> > > > is what I use sometimes and is suitable for running out of cron with
> the
> > > > apropriate switchtes.
> > > >
> > > > WL <will@$pammer$.net (my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED])> wrote
> in
> > > > message news:8aotlk$3prk2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to get nctp to download all directoried - I tried using
> > > > bgget -R
> > > > > * which I thought downloaded all directory levels (as
> > > > > deep as you can go), but it didn't.  Anyone know another switch?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Will
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Web Developer and Programmer for Lukrative Media Ltd
> > > > > http://www.lukrative.com
> > > > > Domain Names-> http://CreativeNames.co.uk
> > > > > Classified Ads-> http://www.LocalAds.Net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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From: David Mehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: streaming audio/video
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:27:57 -0600

Anyone know a good application for playing streaming audio/video from the
web?  Real player (rvplayer-5.0-8rh6.i386) isn't working for me on my
K7/Athlon 700 MHz machine.  While I'm on the subject, has anyone had luck in
getting real player to work under linux?
Thanks and please eamil.
Dave

-- 
David Mehringer, Ph.D.            University of Illinois  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]           Department of Astronomy
Software Applications Developer,  1002 W. Green St.
BIMA Data Archivist               Urbana, IL 61801 USA
voice: 217 244 5468               fax: 217 244 7638
http://monet.astro.uiuc.edu/~dmehring/dmehring.html


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: First Time Compiling Kernel
Date: 18 Mar 2000 12:35:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John wrote:
> 1. copied linux-2.3.99-pre1.tar.gz to /usr/src
> 2. per README file, decompressed it with gzip -cd linux-2.3.XX.tar.gz |
> tar xvf - 
> 3. this created /usr/src/linux, and I changed directory to
> /usr/src/linux.

Now run
$ /bin/pwd  # NOT "pwd"
Are you in /usr/src/linux-2.2.12?  If so, /usr/src/linux was not freshly
(re)created, but is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-2.2.12, which perhaps
still contains some old files.  Best to unpack the source code into an
_empty_ directory.

> 4. I ran make xconfig and set my options
> 5. I ran make mrproper
> 6. I ran make dep. At this point I noticed the make process was printing
> lots of references to "entering direcory /usr/src/linux-2.2.12 and
> various subdiretories beneath it.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "blind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Books
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:54:44 GMT

Which is the best overall book for generic Linux???  I've been looking at
"Linux Unleashed", and "Mastering Linux Deluxe Edition" (or something like
that).



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 18 Mar 2000 17:57:31 GMT

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:03:23 GMT, Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>On 17 Mar 2000 17:16:49 -0500, Greg Yantz wrote:
>>Some of these special minority scholarships, which are designed to
>>create opportunities for the disadvantaged, are in fact need-blind.
>>That is, you can be from a minority and be well-to-do and still
>>receive them. Unfortunately, I've seen it. 
>
>I have the same stand-point on this issue as Howard Stern. I heard him, one
>morning, talking about the Bill Gates scholarship for "minorities". Howard
>complained that this was rediculous, and that some minorities had more
>money than they knew what to do with so "Why not just give it to poor people?
>There are poor white people out there too, y'know!"

Howard Stern is an ass.  You would have been wiser not to cite him. I won't
flame the illiteracy in this post -- I will assume that you are merely 
faithfully conveying Mr Stern's ignorance.

Helping poor white people isn't going to help minority communities obviously.
That's why one might want to have scholarships for minorities. 
Such scholarships should also be both needs and merit based, otherwise 
they won't help much.

-- 
Donovan

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From: "Edd Flammer" <desdinova at nac.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Enterprise backup solution?
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:53:14 -0500

I comapny i just left had a situation like this. We found the Backup-EXEC
(Seagate(r)) which was already running offered what it called backup agents.
They would run on variuous platforms and do backups over the network to a
central host. I'm sure that other commercial software will offer the same
function..


Matt Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.05.10003161528400.2555-100000@deepdish...
> Hello all - I was rently hired as network admin for a new company that did
> not have an effective backup utility.  We run Windows, Linux, and Solaris.
>
> My question is this- What is a good tool that can do network backups for
> all three platforms? One issue is that the Windows machines also boot up
> into Linux so I don't know what OS they are running.
>
> I would like to have a central server that performs the backups. Whatever
> is used needs to be secure as we are dealing with sensitive information.
> Any help you have would be great.
>
> The current idea is to nfs map the UN*X boxes to the server and then tar
> the partitions.  Thiss seems really cumbersome and potentially
> problematic.
>
> Thanks.
> matt
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 18 Mar 2000 17:58:59 GMT

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:00:43 GMT, Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:08:18 +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>>what is affirmative action again?
>
>"White males need not apply."

Bullshit. Then again, what can we expect from someone who cites Howard 
Stern in his arguments ?

-- 
Donovan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Byron Baer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: EMC model 1427 specs?
Date: 18 Mar 2000 09:53:26 -0800

My current monitor is on its last legs, but I have a spare EMC model 1427
monitor.  Unfortunately, I do not know how to configure it for my current
system, which is Linux (+ 95).  I had the same problem with my previous
monitor, and eventually learned it was a clone of a NEC MultiSync 4FGe.
Anyone know about my current monitor, where I could find out about it,
etc.?  I can't seem to find anything in how-tos or searching the web, but
perhaps I'm just missing something....

Also, where's a list of currently manufactured monitors that are okay with
Linux?  I don't want to wait until installation to find out that a new
monitor is incompatable, and RedHat's compatability list doesn't list
monitors for some reason.  (I currently use 5.1, but would be willing to
upgrade if I _KNEW_ I had all the monitor and system information correct.)

Michael

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Real player 7 on RH 6.1 / KDE2
Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:01:56 GMT


That just about says it. I have tried to install the Realplayer
7 RPM thats "for RH 6.0" from real.com. I am not getting any sound.

What gives ? Anyone got it working ?

TIA,
-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Truetype Chinese and Japanese Fonts
Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:03:54 GMT

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:38:39 +0100, Koen Verbeke wrote:
>Anthony, Donovan,
>
>I use VMWare for just one thing, writing Chinese with Twinbridge. IMHO one
>cannot print characters as beautifully under Linux with a non-postscript
>printer as under windoze with its tuned drivers.

FYI, Postscript printers start at $99- ( see the printing HOWTO for a pointer
to the Lexmark Optra 40 )

However, PCL printers support true type IIRC, so if you have a PCL printer,
the printer *should* render your TrueType fonts the same way, regardless 
of where you're printing from.

-- 
Donovan

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