Linux-Misc Digest #918, Volume #18 Fri, 5 Feb 99 22:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Topicality (Lawrence Kirby)
KDE kvt copy/paste question
Re: Topicality (Will Rose)
Re: KDE is my desktop. (David M. Cook)
Netscape and Real Audio Player
Re: Opinions about LyX? (Gareth Owen)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (Matthias Warkus)
Re: How to make it run faster? (Philip Brown)
Re: x11amp compile issues (chris couples)
Re: Killing a Linux Box (Ben Russo)
linux boot meltdown!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ld problems on Debian... (Donn Miller)
Re: LINUX FIREWALL - HELP (Ben Russo)
Re: Best Linux ? (Ben Russo)
Re: Netscape + NCFTP (Ben Russo)
Re: question about Nedit for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Robert McConnell)
smbmount and 2.2 kernels (Dave Calvin)
How can I mount a device with non-superuser? (Raymond Li)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (Todd Ostermeier)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lawrence Kirby)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Topicality
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 99 00:01:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Paul D. Smith" writes:
...
>So you're saying that putenv() is not "programming in C"? Or that
>"programming in C" means _ONLY_ programming in ANSI/ISO standard C?
As far as comp.lang.c is concerned that is ertainly the case. Other
newsgroups can define "programming in C" as they see fit. What is certainly
the case though is that putenv() is not part of the C language, it
is a common extension to C found on a certain set of C implementations.
>If not, what are you saying (that relates to my comment above)?
>
>If so, then I repeat my question: why bother to have both comp.lang.c
>and comp.std.c, if both are restricted to discussions of ANSI/ISO
>standard C only?
comp.std.c doesn't discuss standard C, it discusses the C standard.
As a general (and not entirely accurate) indicator if you don't have a
copy of the standard document there's no point posting to comp.std.c.
>How many of the C implementations you mentioned _don't_ supply putenv()?
>Since it's almost ubiquitous amongst "variants" of C (really, C runtime
>libraries), why isn't it appropriate for comp.lang.c?
It doesn't matter if all C implementations provide it, if it isn't
part of the language it isn't part of the language. Being able to make
blanket statements like that is one of the advantages of having a standard.
(However if all C implementations provide it it might perhaps be appropriate
to go over to comp.std.c and discuss whether it should be added to the
next revision of the standard). Consider, however, that any conforming
C compiler must be able to cope with the following code
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
double putenv(double x, double y)
{
return x + y;
}
int main(void)
{
printf("%f\n", putenv(6, 7));
return 0;
}
If it falls over due to some clash with a system definec putenv() then
it isn't a conforming C compiler.
--
=========================================
Lawrence Kirby | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wilts, England | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:30:09 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE kvt copy/paste question
How does one copy and paste text from a kvt terminal
window. I've tried to highlight text to mark it, then
switch to the new window and middle-click to copy the
marked text. However nothing is copied. Any suggestions
welcomed.
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Rose)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Topicality
Date: 5 Feb 1999 01:48:25 GMT
Paul D. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[...]
: If so, then I repeat my question: why bother to have both comp.lang.c
: and comp.std.c, if both are restricted to discussions of ANSI/ISO
: standard C only?
For the nth time (in this thread alone), comp.lang.c deals primarily
with the current C standard, aka C89 or C90. comp.std.c deals
entirely with the next C standard, known as C9X. Their audiences
are entirely different.
Will
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: KDE is my desktop.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:00:15 GMT
On 5 Feb 1999 16:23:20 GMT, Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, the 0.14's menus drive me crazy. You just can't get rid of
>those things except for clicking on the menu bar and clicking the X.
You have to click on the root window with the same button you brought the
menu up with. Still annoying.
Dave Cook
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:09:29 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape and Real Audio Player
I'm having problems trying to listen to a webcast.
When I click on a link like 'filename.ram' Netscape
tries to download the file, however I think it
should be playing the webcast. I've installed the
Red Hat version of Real Player 5.0 using the standard
rpm command (rpm -Uvh rv50_redhat5xi386.rpm). Any
suggestions on how to listen to webcasts welcomed.
--Greg
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From: Gareth Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: 05 Feb 1999 17:20:22 +0000
QM<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > LyX is an incredibly easy way to harness the immense power of LaTeX which
> > is probably the best solution for this requirement.
>
> Thanks for all the responses. Now I think that I'll definitely give LyX a go.
> However at the moment I don't have a specific thesis layout. Does anyone have
> one for LyX? Or do you have a site from which I can download from? Thanks
> again.
Two things: i) If you do a lot of maths typesetting, nothing is quicker
than AuCTeX/Emacs in math-mode. `a for \alpha `f for \phi etc.
ii) AMSTeX is much nicer than plain LaTeX for matrices etc.
See the ams*.dvi files with your distribution (especially pmatrix,
multline, split, etc.)
--
Gareth Owen
http://www.ma.man.ac.uk/~gowen/lisp/
EMACS May Alienate Clients and Supporters
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:09:37 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:51:23 -0600...
..and Keith G. Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arthur wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody know who built the first analog computer?
> >
> I'm tempted to say, might be the British again, with that Stonehenge
> astronomical computer thingie. :-)
If Stonehenge really was a computer (it probably wasn't, since the
Aubrey Holes seem to be graves), it was *digital*.
Let's keep the facts straight.
mawa
--
There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.
-- Churchill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:15:42 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:56:27 -0600...
..and Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> not out yet. V1 and V2 are supported (but only in full-screen mode, for
> games such as quake, not for use with and X-server), so I'd assume the V3
> will eventually be supported.
There is an experimental X server for the Voodoo Rush, and the ugly
Mesa Glide render-through-a-hole hack allows you to have
Glide-accelerated 3D in a window, too.
mawa
--
The Bundeswehr? I don't have any problems with the Bundeswehr. After
all, what possible harm could an army do where soldiers don't need to
have their hair cut and where they play _Sailing_ for the Grand Tattoo?
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06 Feb 1999 02:01:18 GMT
On 3 Feb 1999 13:17:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
>Eeeagh! Do you realize that with a swap partition 4x the size of physical
>RAM Linux is swapping so that it can find the page of memory it needs to
>swap. In other words, more than 3x physical is inefficient.
>*Reduce* the size of your swap partition to 48, or even 32MB.
Reducing the size of the swap partition does not help anything, when you
basically need more ram. If you need more ram, you need more ram. The
only true solutions to those kinds of performance problems are
a) buy more RAM
b) start running smaller programms.
(note for the completely clueless: No, reducing the font size will NOT
help !)
--
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:51:46 +0000
From: chris couples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: x11amp compile issues
Wael Sedky wrote:
>
> There is a compiled version. Just untar it and run x11amp
>
> You have to compile your kernel to run sound first though. Make sure you can
> play wav files and then try x11amp.
> Wael
> >at ./configure, everything proceeds until imlib detection, which fails.
> >
> >
> >
> >
works - sort of. I can see where some of the bugfixes in 0.9 should
be...
:-)
thanks.
c
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Killing a Linux Box
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:10:01 -0500
AKBishop wrote:
>
> I have been given the task of killing a linux box to check security. Anyone
> have any ideas on where to begin?
>
> Thanks.
> ....
> remove the -remove- from my e-mail address.
I just sent a link to you about root shell, you may find dozens of
exploits there, but remember that no OS is perfect, and there are
exploits for all systems.
The real way to check a linux box is to have a real UNIX SA set it
up. Of course the more secure, the more time it takes to set up,
and the more time it will take to manage. So you have to ask
yourself how much do you want to spend?
If it is a critical or sensitive service, install the latest
OS version -.1 from the distribution source (i.e. RedHat 5.1)
then install all the relevant and available patches directly
from their FTP site. (check the digital signatures and MD5
checksums on all packages)
FIRST SECURE THE CONSOLE PHYSICALLY (in a locked or guarded room)
AND USE SECURE PASSWORD METHODS (read about PAM) AND SHADOW PASSWORDS
then:
1. remove all unnecessary network services.
2. remove all announcements from network services
(like issue and issue.net)
you should also read all documentation
for network services to see if you can
obscure their type and version from
network visitors.
3. tcp wrap all remaining services.
4. install ACTIVE hacking/port-scanning software
http://www.psionic.com/abacus/abacus_sentry.html
(this will detect port scanning and set static
routes or ipfwadm block to trash all packets
from that source)
5. in hosts.conf set
order hosts,bind
multi on
alert on
nospoof on
Remember that your DNS service is a point of
vulnerability for all your systems
it is like the weak-link in a chain.
6. If it isn't too inconveinient move services to
strange port numbers like move telnet to 3714
(or something)
7. Use Ipfwadm to block protocols like ICMP from all hosts
except those on the local broadcast domain.
8. If possible place the box behind a low-level firewall.
9. Routine checking of the filesystem for permission changes,
binary file size changes, MD5 signature changes,
ownership changes, time stamps on config files.
10. Routine checking of the log files, wtmp files, process
list, and sar output's.
11. If the DATA is REALLY important, like Nuke codes or
something, you want to automate steps 4, 9, and 10
and have the box auto alarm and shutdown at the
first sign of trouble.
(of course you could have
a cold standby *with slightly different setup*
auto fail-over and confuse the
hacker)
12. If you want to get tricky, leave fake services up on
the regular ports with standard issue messages,
the services don't do anything, they just log all
traffic to them.
Then just let net-visitors play with them long
enough to see if they are viscious, then block them
out and report the attacks to the proper authorities.
Once these things are done, *THEN* try to hack in. I bet dollars to
donuts that if you asked me to set up a realistic server I could
make it secure to attacks.
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: linux boot meltdown!!
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:30:34 GMT
Help!!! My linux 2.0.27 is suddenly booting my root directory as
read-only!! I "accidently" changed my BIOS setting for my hard disk
and re-booted. I got a bunch of "04"'s scrolling across my screen. I
switched back my hard disk parameters in BIOS and linux started to
boot with my root directory as read only. Which makes working difficult when
you only have a swap partition and a /tmp filesystem. Essentially everying
not in /tmp is read-only!! ARGHH!!!
The boot process also starts to encounter errors (becuase of the read-only
/ filesytem). When booting there are error messages (which don't show up in
dmesg output) that the system can't find ulimit and can't find export. And
I've even lost my system name on my login prompt!!
I've been running for two years and have made no recent changes to my system.
Is my hard drive hosed??
Here is the output of dmesg: (don't mind the network/scsi errors, they're
modules that I compiled into the kernel that I haven't pulled out yet and
were there when my system was working fine).
<<<<<<<<<< Start of dmesg >>>>>>>>>>
Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fb2e0
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb7a0
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb7d0
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 39.73 BogoMIPS
Memory: 46576k/49152k available (1020k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1172k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Linux version 2.0.27 (root@darkstar) (gcc version 2.7.2) #4 Tue Jan 7 21:49:23
CST 1997
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
APM BIOS not found.
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
hda: Maxtor 7850 AV, 814MB w/64kB Cache, LBA, CHS=827/32/63
hdb: MATSHITA CR-581-M, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
scsi: ***** BusLogic SCSI Driver Version 2.0.6 of 1 December 1996 *****
scsi: Copyright 1995 by Leonard N. Zubkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
scsi0: Configuring BusLogic Model BT-948 PCI Ultra SCSI Host Adapter
scsi0: Firmware Version: 5.05R, I/O Address: 0x6000, IRQ Channel: 11/Level
scsi0: DMA Channel: None, BIOS Address: 0xDC000, Host Adapter SCSI ID: 7
scsi0: Scatter/Gather Limit: 128 of 8192 segments, Parity Checking: Enabled
scsi0: Synchronous Initiation: Enabled, Extended Disk Translation: Enabled
scsi0: Disconnect/Reconnect: Enabled, Tagged Queuing: Enabled
scsi0: Total Queue Depth: 192, Mailboxes: 255, Initial CCBs: 64
scsi0: Tagged Queue Depth: Automatic, Untagged Queue Depth: 3
scsi0: Host Adapter SCSI Bus Termination: Enabled
scsi0: Error Recovery Strategy: Default
scsi0: *** BusLogic BT-948 Initialized Successfully ***
scsi0: Target 5: Asynchronous
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping probe.
PPA: unable to initialise controller at 0x378, error 2
scsi0 : BusLogic BT-948
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.13
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total.
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB]
sda: Write Protect is off
Partition check:
sda: sda4
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
JAVA Binary support v1.01 for Linux 1.3.98 (C)1996 Brian A. Lantz
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
<<<<<<<<<< End of dmesg >>>>>>>>>>
After downloading tomsrtbt (Tom's root/boot) I did a e2fsck on my
partitions, hda1 (/), hda3 (/tmp). hda1 and hda3 came back with zero dates
on inodes errors and were corrected. A second run of e2fsck came back with
no problems on either filesystem.
In conclusion HELP!!! I've got my linux system just the way I like it.
Can it be saved or do I start from scratch.
TIA,
Marc
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ld problems on Debian...
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:27:11 -0500
Actually, it may be a problem with my libraries... here's me compiling
a test program, "test.c":
#include <stdio.h>
int main()
{
fprintf(stderr, "Error message.\n");
return 0;
}
ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 08048270
ls /usr/lib
Mcrt1.o libiberty.a
crt1.o libieee.a
crti.o libl.a@
crtn.o libm.a
dpkg/ libm.so@
gcc-lib/ libmcheck.a
gcrt1.o libmenu.a
lddstub* libmenu.so@
ldscripts/ libmenu.so.3.4
libBrokenLocale.a libmenu3.4_pic.a
libBrokenLocale.so@ libncurses.a
libbfd-2.9.1.so.0@ libncurses.so@
libbfd-2.9.1.so.0.0.0 libncurses3.4_pic.a
libbfd.a libndbm.a@
libbfd.la libndbm.so@
libbsd-compat.a libnewt.so.0.21
libc.a libnsl.a
libc.so libnsl.so@
libc5-compat/ libnss_compat.so@
libc_nonshared.a libnss_db.so@
libc_pic/ libnss_dns.so@
libc_pic.a libnss_files.so@
libcrypt.a libnss_nis.so@
libcrypt.so@ libopcodes-2.9.1.so.0@
libcurses.a@ libopcodes-2.9.1.so.0.0.0
libcurses.so@ libopcodes.a
libdb.a libopcodes.la
libdb.so@ libpanel.a
libdb2++.so.2@ libpanel.so@
libdb2++.so.2.3.16 libpanel.so.3.4
libdb2.so.2@ libpanel3.4_pic.a
libdb2.so.2.3.16 libposix.a
libdl.a libpthread.a
libdl.so@ libpthread.so@
libdpkg.a libresolv.a
libdpkg.la libresolv.so@
libdpkg.so@ librpcsvc.a
libdpkg.so.0@ libstdc++.so.2.7.2@
libdpkg.so.0.0.0 libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8
libelf.a libstdc++.so.2.8@
libelf.so@ libstdc++.so.2.8.0
libelf.so.0@ libstdc++.so.272@
libelf.so.0.6.4* libtermcap.a@
libfl.a libutil.a
libform.a libutil.so@
libform.so@ libwrap.a
libform.so.3.4 libz.so.1@
libform3.4_pic.a libz.so.1.1.1
libg++.a locate/
libg++.so.2.7.2@ menu/
libg++.so.2.7.2.8 mk/
libg++.so.2.8@ module_help/
libg++.so.2.8.1 more.help
libg++.so.272@ perl5/
libgdbm.so.1@ slib/
libgdbm.so.1.7.3 sta15075
libgdbm.so.2@ stb15075/
libgnumalloc.so.5@ syslinux/
libgnumalloc.so.5.4.38 tabset@
libhistory.so.2@ terminfo@
libhistory.so.2.1 whiptcl.so*
When I execute the program, I get: "Illegal instruction"
I'm obiviously missing a lib somewhere...
--==+++Donn+++===--
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX FIREWALL - HELP
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:35:37 -0500
News wrote:
>
> I have to make a firewall aplication in linux c if you have a source
> code of an aplication like this i would be gratefull if you could send it
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go get the source code for a SOCKS server (Dante) , a PROXY server
(SQUID)
and ipfwadm-tools.
-Ben.
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Linux ?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:23:15 -0500
Andrew Fry wrote:
>
> OK, after years of AIX, OpenDesktop, UnixWare, Solaris
> and (some) BSD ... I am finally going to get Linux and
> install if on one of my machines.
> But which is the best one to go for ? (Red Hat, Caldera
> OpenLinux Lite, SuSE, etc).
> Any views ?
>
> ---
> Andrew Fry
> "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana". (Groucho Marx).
I like RedHat 5.2
This is all a matter of opinion.
I have used RedHat Caldera Slackware Yggdrassil and maybe one or two
others
I don't remember.
I administer dozens of HP-UX boxes, a few Solaris Boxes, a few Irix
Boxes,
and of course Linux. I used to have Tandem and SCO boxes to run.
I like RedHat and although it isn't perfect I don't think I will
change.
-Ben.
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape + NCFTP
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:45:40 -0500
Mark Robinson wrote:
> When I try to load netscape it takes sooooooooo long. I have a P200 and
> 32MB of ram. There is no disk activity, netscape will eventually start,
> after 5 minutes. Ncftp also doesn't want to load. It just sits there.
> Any help?
Could be many things, Netscape is slow.
Even on a Xeon 400 with 1GB RAM and SCSI III hard drives
it takes 5-15 seconds to pop up.
However you may want to check out a few of the settings for your
network.
1. Do you have a nameserver defined in /etc/resolv.conf ?
if so, what is your response time for queries?
have you tried setting up cacheing DNS on your local box?
2. Do you use a PROXY?
if so, what is it's response time for queries?
3. Try editing the preferences to have "blank page" loaded instead
of a home page. This may make a difference.
4. Do you have netscape configured to bring up a Mail window when
it starts?
if so do you have "auto-get" mail set, and what is the response
time of your mail-server?
5. If you are not connected directly to the internet, i.e. there is a
transient network connection between you and the world
then there could be a setup time for the network link to your
DNS/Firewall/Mailserver/Home-Page.
if this is the case, make a script wrapper for netscape that
attempts an ftp to an internet site in the background before
netscape is kicked off, then kill's the ftp job. This will
jumpstart
the transient connection.
As far as "ncftp"- what distribution of Linux are you using?
what changes have you made since installing the dist.?
when you say "sits there" what do you see on the console
after typing "ncftp"?
-Ben.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: question about Nedit for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:49:05 GMT
Steve Sanyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: I normally would not ask a question like this, but I am rather pressed
: for time.
:
: I used Nedit for linux to write my C++ code for a project. It looks
: great in Nedit... it is colour coded, etc.
:
: However, in VI, Emacs, and more importantly, on a printout, all of the
: tabs are messed up.
:
: I could painstakingly go into emacs or vi and change them to what they
: are supposed to be, but is there a way i can do this with Nedit?
:
: How can I make Nedit so that it retains smart indenting and syntax
: highlighting, but doesn't cause these tab errors.
:
: Thanks
:
: Steve
In Nedit there's an emulated tabs option (options-tab) to have nedit
insert a certain number of spaces instead of a tab when you press the
tab key. The only place you should really use a tab is in a makefile. In
sourcecode tabs are almost always a nasty nuisance - even to the extent
that in the software development companies I've worked for tabs were
explicitly forbidden.
You could search and replace all tabs with the number of spaces
you like with something like sed, or ed or vi. Or even nedit itself.
--
Boudewijn Rempt | www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt
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Boudewijn Rempt | www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert McConnell)
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 02:27:54 GMT
That "case" never was prosecuted. Even though the Justice Department
had enough evidence to warrent a trial, they were too busy with other
concerns and declined to prosecute. However, they did not let
Micro$oft off scott free. They managed to get them to sign a consent
decree, agreeing to change certain questionable practices, but not
admitting any guilt in their procedures. Of course there was no
attempt to enforce this decree, so nothing actually changed. Have you
ever seen a major hardware offering without Windows, or been offered a
discount if you didn't want Windows pre-installed?
I think there was talk of filing for a contempt citation, but the
final decision was to go ahead and prosecute this time. Hopefully,
they can get convictions and make them stick on appeal. Micro$oft has
definitely outgrown any hats they used to wear.
Bob McConnell
N2SPP
On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 05:18:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Microsoft lost a case to the Justice Department a few years ago. Among their
>illegal practices was signing licenses with companies that required them to
>pay Microsoft money on how many computers they sold, rather than how many
>computers they sold that had Microsoft software on them. Unfortunately,
>although it convicted Microsoft, the Justice Deparment, led by Anne Bingamen
>(sp?), decided not to punish Microsoft. They actually joined with Microsoft
>in arguing in front of a judge (who rejected the entire settlement as being
>nothing more than slap on the wrist) that there actually was some punishment.
>It was a slap on the wrist, the only "punishment" I remember is that they had
>to cease and desist the licensing practice of charging for their software
>even when a computer shipped didn't contain it. But by then, OS/2 was no
>longer a challenge, if it ever had been, and the issue was moot. The judge
>who resisted the settlement for lack of punishment (and who made excellent
>points regarding the complete lack of any significant punishment) was
>eventually removed, and some other judge gave it a rubber stamp of approval.
>Apparently Microsoft came in and greased enough palms in the justice system
>and the Justice Department. As I am sure they are doing now (in addition to
>Gates playing golf with Clinton).
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Calvin)
Subject: smbmount and 2.2 kernels
Date: 5 Feb 1999 17:47:41 GMT
I recently upgraded from 2.0.36 to 2.2.1. I formerly used a program called
smbmount to mount SMB shared directories. It stopped working with 2.2.1.
I attempted to recompile it, but it looks like things have changed
significantly and it's not going to happen. Is there a similar program
that works with 2.2.*? Where can I get it?
Dave
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:53:50 +0800
From: Raymond Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can I mount a device with non-superuser?
Hello,
How can I mount a MO, floppy or vfat device with non superuser id?
Thanks in advance for your advices!
Yours,
Raymond Li
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From: Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:13:36 -0600
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Matthias Warkus wrote:
: It was the Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:56:27 -0600...
: ..and Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > not out yet. V1 and V2 are supported (but only in full-screen mode, for
: > games such as quake, not for use with and X-server), so I'd assume the V3
: > will eventually be supported.
:
: There is an experimental X server for the Voodoo Rush, and the ugly
: Mesa Glide render-through-a-hole hack allows you to have
: Glide-accelerated 3D in a window, too.
For the record, according to an interview linked from Blue's News
(www.bluesnews.com), the V3 will be supported in windows9x, windows 2000,
and linux (no mention of NT 4)
________________________________
Todd Ostermeier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ostermer/index.html
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