Linux-Misc Digest #918, Volume #25 Mon, 2 Oct 00 02:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: rpm confusion (mpulliam)
Re: Problem with rpm ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source... (Bill Thompson)
Re: Disabling directory browsing/listings in Apache (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions? (Silviu Minut)
help make xconfig ("Dave Stanton")
Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions? ("Michael Pike")
Re: How to make updatedb include /root/* (Bev)
Re: WordPerfect for Linux is here! ("Michael Pike")
Re: How to read excel file using Linux? ("Boscu Ioan")
Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions? (David M. Cook)
DISPLAY env variable problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions? (David_C)
Re: Should mixer work with CD? (Glitch)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mpulliam)
Subject: Re: rpm confusion
Date: 2 Oct 2000 02:21:11 GMT
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 18:45:20 +0200,
Carsten Mohr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think I confused rpm.
>
>1) I try to install MySQL:
>'rpm -ihv mysql-3.22.32-36.i386.rpm'
>I get: 'package mysql-3.22.32-36 is already installed'
>
>2) I try to query MySQL:
>'rpm -q -i MySQL'
>I get: 'package MySQL is not installed
You asked it about mysql (lower case letters)
in the first query, and MySQL (u/lc) in the
second.
It's case sensitive. Looks like the correct
form is mysql, lower case only.
HTH
MP
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with rpm
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 22:40:53 +0400
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote::
>
> :> Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> :> Don't all linux distributions recognize the same Linux rpm
> packages?
> :> : make sure you got the correct rpm for you architecture.
> :> : There are rpm's for i386, for i686, for sparc, for alpha, for
> ppc...
> :> And for redhat, for suse, ... and .deb's for debian and corel, and
> :> .tgz's for slackware.
> :>
> :> (hint, the package format has nothing to do with it. It's the content
> :> and the meta info that count)
>
> : .deb and .tgz (or .tar.gz) are no rpm's, tho.
>
> So what do you want me to answer? "No"? His question contained a false
> assumption which makes answering his question directly impossible. He
> effectively asked "Doesn't everyone understand the same dialect of
> italian". It would have been thrown out of court if uttered by a
> prosecution lawyer ...
Don't be so defensive. I was merely pointing out the fact that .deb and
.tgz's as well as .tar.gz are no rpms.
His question whether or not all Linux-flavors understand rpm's in
combination to your answer might have led him to believe that they were.
That's all.
-Jan
P.S. I don't think I understand your prosecution-lawyer comparison in
this context.
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
The faster we go, the rounder we get.
-- The Grateful Dead
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From: Bill Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source...
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:56:14 +0700
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Bruce LaZerte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:42:52, -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : I've been told that the current Mandrake version 7.1 kernel (2.2.15) is
> : patched for UDMA66, supermount and up to 170 other features/fixes, many of
> : which I don't need/use but some of which I certainly do.
>
> Hmm ... what makes you think mandrake is a better judge of what should
> go in the kernel than the kernel maintainers (or yourself, for that
> matter!). Their motives are marketing. Not stability, not fact, not
> speed, not anything except featurism. Look up "feature interaction" in
> a comp sci dict. And then try and see if any of the bugs tehy
> introduced have been reported, acknowledged, or fixed!
>
> If you like some of their patches, take them and keep them.
>
> : If these features are not now in the linux standard patches (16,17,18pre)
> : then there's a chance that parts of my installation will not have the
>
> Really? Well, it would take you all of about twenty minutes to find out,
> instead of wondering about the possibility! Compile your own, install,
> reboot. End of nervous palpitations.
>
> : Guess I'll just have to give it a try...
>
> Yep. Go ahead.
>
> Peter
Under Mandrake 7.1, one only has to install the kernel-linus rpm file
to
get a kernel without Mandrake's patches. Easier than re-compiling the
kernel.
Bill
--
>From the shores of Khlong YaiPhuan, Bangkok, Thailand...
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disabling directory browsing/listings in Apache
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 03:17:14 GMT
"Richard R. Kaufman" wrote:
>
> I am interested in disabling people who visit my website from browsing my
> directories by going to http://my.server.com/myuser/folder and being able
> to view the contents of the folder if there is no default document in it.
> Can someone tell me what modification I have to make to apache's
> configuration to disable this? Thanks in advance for any help.
If you want to disable it for all directories, take out "Indexes" from
the Options directive in httpd.conf.
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_autoindex.html
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:21:47 -0400
I did install it at school on an 80 gig raid file server, and I was amply
impressed. Everything went smoothly from one end to another. I didn't have to
do one thing.
At home, where I have a simple dual boot system it sucked. I've been using
RedHat ever since I first installed Linux at home, a good couple of years ago,
and never tried anything else. I'm a RedHat guy. I'm thinking now maybe it's
time to move to SuSE.
The first few installation attempts crushed with a dump which I was supposed to
send to bugzilla. How do you send it to bugzilla if you haven't installed yet?
Someone in the newsgroups (God bless him!) said that it's already been reported
and that it was happens only if you make a mount point for the Win98 partition
during install. Taking his advice, I left the Win98 partition unmounted and all
went well. It picked up the correct video card, and configured the Xserver
automatically, which was good.
I've never used gnome before, because it is under construction and I don't
think it's very stable, but since RH made it
the default manger, I thought I'd give it a try. Looks sharp, and highly
configurable, but...
I was forced to use rp3 to dial (no ppp0 interface in netcfg nor in linuxconf),
which was trivial to configure, but I couldn't get it to allow other users to
start the connection for the life of me (yes, I did check the "allow other
users button"). Moreover, to my surprise, I saw the password I had chosen for
the connection (as root) in plain text in /etc/wvdial.config. Plus, rp3 does
not display the IP address, which I think may be useful sometime. (I know, as
root you can see it with ifconfig). So I went back to my all time favourite,
XISP, and I'm back online, as normal user.
Now, I've added a few programs to the panel bar. One of them is rxvt. Initially
I specified rxvt -bg darkblue, and later I changed my mind, so I went to
preferences and changed darkblue to black. Restart, and guess what? Darkblue is
back!
I don't know what more to do to change rxvt from blue to black. (I did click
the Apply and OK buttons).
Although it takes a significant amount of memory, I'd be willing to use gnome,
because it looks nice, and it's easy to configure (supposedly). If I could only
configure it.
The good parts: RH7.0 comes ready for kernel 2.4.0. (Haven't tried it though).
Also, it comes with XFree86-4.0.1, which works beautifully.
So RH7.0 didn't work quite out of the box for me, but it does have a few good
features. If you have the time and patience to make it look and work as you
want it to, then you can give it a try.
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help make xconfig
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:31:28 +0100
Hi
When you start up make xconfig, there are settings already in it, are these
taken from the last kernel make ?.
Or are they default settings coded into it ?.
Cheers
Dave
--
Support JON JOHANSEN & open source software
more info @ http://www.eff.org
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From: "Michael Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions?
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:48:21 -0600
Well - I have a complaint about RH7.0 - and have addressed it to RH with no
response, despite the fact we purchased over 50 copies of their 6.2 pro
edition (at $180 a pop)...
I am a one man army when it comes to Linux where I work... we are a Windows
shop all the way... after begging, screaming, and kicking, I got them to
allocate me a Dell PowerEdge 6300, 1 gig Ram, 80 gigs RAID5 space... one
hell of a machine...
Aside from their PERC2/RAID drivers not working, and me having to fish for a
solution, we got it running... runs well! So well in fact, the upper
management is now looking at using Linux on a live database platform. So,
ofcourse, they hand me a database to implement on Linux...
It's 8 gigs in size..... I figure.. no problem! Well, much to my dismay,
ext2 only can handle 2 gig file sizes on 32 bit architecture.. NT and win2k
dont have this issue, and the MCSE's are having a hay day with it...
I KNOW the linux community wouldnt leave a flaw like that in the OS, so i
begin searching for a solution, I find LFS patches.... to find out they have
a max size of 4 gigs!!! GEEEEEEZE! I got an email the other day mentioning
ResierFS and ext3fs, and they can handle terrabyte sized files.... I cant
find either, and wouldn't know how to implement it anyhow if it is as
difficult as the LFS patches..... and upgrading to a 64 bit platform is NOT
an option considering they just put $40,000 in this Dell PowerEdge....
RedHat doesn't have any outline or any idea of implementing an FS that can
handle files that size..
This is the new millenium - 2 gigs isnt gonna hack it, nor will 4 gigs on
hospital systems. If Redhat wants to play with the big boys they need to do
something.... as the person in charge of Linux distro's for our branch of
the federal government, which ever platform comes out with Large File
support first will be where we put our dollars...
Thats what I think of RH7.0 -- I preached, and preached on how great it is,
and how RH supports their users, then I was used as a gigantic toilet, and
was shit on by them.
Mike
"David Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:wXJB5.282904$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey all! Anyone done anything with RH7.0 yet? Got a few questions for
you,
> but they can all be summed up in the question "Is it worth it to upgrade?"
>
> RedHat doesn't say on their webpage what kernel version RH7 uses. Anyone
> know?
>
> One of their big "selling points" is a "cleaner, faster, more customizable
> GNOME desktop and Sawfish window manager". Are there new versions of
Gnome
> and Sawfish that I'm not aware of, or are they aiming their sales pitch at
> non-experienced Linux users?
>
> I've heard nasty rumours that RH6.2 had a bug in the installer. Has
anyone
> had similar trouble installing/upgrading to RH7?
>
> Any idea what the "power tools" disk is available from mirrors?
>
> Thanks in advance for your opinions!
>
> David
> (for personal replies use d DOT perry at...)
>
>
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make updatedb include /root/*
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 22:07:11 -0700
"Andreas K�h�ri" wrote:
>
> Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It currently includes nothing in /root or any of its subdirectories when
> >it's run as a cronjob (updatedb&), but includes it when I do it by hand
> >(updatedb&). What can possibly be the difference?
>
> Check your /etc/updatedb.conf for the PRUNEPATHS variable.
Don't have one :-( But digging through various cron-things ultimately led
me to this line in rc.config:
RUN_UPDATEDB_AS=nobody
GOTCHA! Thanks for your suggestion.
--
Cheers,
Bev
======================================================
"Give me all your brains or I'll blow your money out!"
--Anonymous Unsuccessful Bank Robber
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From: "Michael Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux is here!
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:01:06 -0600
Wow... took them long enough, I have been using this for a few months....
I have to disagree with their review... first and foremost, the thing uses
WINE.... its unreliable, and despite the fact it has nice features, its
identical to the windows version, without the reliability (me saying windows
is reliable NEVER happens i hate windows)... but with WP2000 you are taking
something that has the reliability of windows, then porting it to a windows
emulator that is less reliable than windows... and speed, this thing is
SLOOOOOOOOOOW....
I have it crash hourly atleast.... I've went baack to StarOffice for the
time being.... if I wanted a port of a Windows app, I'd get WINE and MS
Office2000....
Applixware looks like it might be nice, it is Linux native... and WP8 was
linux native, but Corel got lazy with the office port, and all of their new
ports for that matter, and simple rely on WINE.... not my idea of a good
app.
If you're gonna do it, do it right.
Mike
"Per Inge Oestmoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Take a look at what they say about WordPerfect for Linux:
>
> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/1855/1/
>
> --
> Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
> http://home.powertech.no/pioe/
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From: "Boscu Ioan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to read excel file using Linux?
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:52:17 +0200
Use SUN's StarOffice 5.2 (www.sun.com/products/staroffice).It's an
application suite that
can read all MSoffice-created files.
"John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need to read an excel file using Linux. Is this possible. I would
> like to do it for free if possible.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 05:25:30 GMT
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:48:21 -0600, Michael Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I KNOW the linux community wouldnt leave a flaw like that in the OS, so
>i begin searching for a solution, I find LFS patches.... to find out
>they have a max size of 4 gigs!!! GEEEEEEZE! I got an email the other
>day mentioning ResierFS and ext3fs, and they can handle terrabyte sized
>files.... I cant find either, and wouldn't know how to implement it
>anyhow if it is as difficult as the LFS patches..... and upgrading to a
>64 bit platform is NOT an option considering they just put $40,000 in
>this Dell PowerEdge....
According to http://www.scyld.com/software/lfs.html, the limit is > 4G,
though can't speak from personal experience and I don't see what the
limit is, though didn't dig deep. The Kernel Monte sounds interesting
though .... hadn't been aware of that.
>RedHat doesn't have any outline or any idea of implementing an FS that can
>handle files that size..
Sorry for your problems. The LFS patch was bundled with RH6.2 kernel
src.rpms. It is commented out in the spec file IIRC. So if you don't
mind doing kernels from src.rpms (I do), then conceivably uncommenting a
few lines would get the patch in. I would imagine the same is true of
glibc.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 05:30:11 GMT
"Michael Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<snip>
> ext2 only can handle 2 gig file sizes on 32 bit architecture.. NT and win2k
> dont have this issue, and the MCSE's are having a hay day with it...
>
> I KNOW the linux community wouldnt leave a flaw like that in the OS, so i
> begin searching for a solution, I find LFS patches.... to find out they have
> a max size of 4 gigs!!! GEEEEEEZE! I got an email the other day mentioning
> ResierFS and ext3fs, and they can handle terrabyte sized files.... I cant
> find either, and wouldn't know how to implement it anyhow if it is as
> difficult as the LFS patches..... and upgrading to a 64 bit platform is NOT
> an option considering they just put $40,000 in this Dell PowerEdge....
>
> RedHat doesn't have any outline or any idea of implementing an FS that can
> handle files that size..
I seem to remember reading the specs for 'Red Hat Server for Oracle'
stating that they patched the kernel to remove the 2 gig file limit if
I am not mistaken.
The actual limitation is not in the ext2 filesystem but rather in the
virtual filesystem which is used to implement this on the 32bit system
so ReiserFS and ext3fs would have the same problem until this is fixed
(as I have heard) it has been in the 2.4 kernel and glibc. I think in
the above mentioned product, Red Hat went ahead and did those changes
themselves instead of waiting for the 2.4 kernel.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions?
Date: 2 Oct 2000 05:30:54 GMT
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 16:50:36 GMT, David Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>RedHat doesn't say on their webpage what kernel version RH7 uses. Anyone
>know?
A heavily patched 2.2.16 kernel, including the USB backport. This is listed
at
http://www.redhat.com/products/software/linux/rhl7_new_features.html
which is 2 obvious clicks from the main page.
If you're *really* curious about what they've done to this kernel version,
install rpm-3.0.5 and you can then install kernel-2.2.16-22.src.rpm and see
what patches are in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES.
>I've heard nasty rumours that RH6.2 had a bug in the installer.
Red Hat's bug tracking system is public. You can peruse/search it at
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DISPLAY env variable problem
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 05:25:58 GMT
Trying to install Oracle 8i. I'm typing the following & receiving the
following error:
DISPLAY=192.168.0.5
export DISPLAY
xhost + 192.168.0.5
Xlib: connection to "192.168.0.5:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xhost: unable to open display "192.168.0.5:0.0"
I'm running this from within Xwindows on the linux box itself. I can
ping the server by ip or host name. I have the following entry
in /etc/login.defs
+:oracle:192.168.0.5
Replacing the IP address with the hostname or localhost or even typing
DISPLAY=:0
doesn't change anything. I keep getting the same error.
I have been wrestling with this for several hours. Can anyone help?
Thanks
--Michael
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Your RedHat 7.0 impressions?
Date: 02 Oct 2000 01:36:24 -0400
Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> (I know, as root you can see it with ifconfig).
FWIW, non-root users can also view settings with ifconfig - they just
can't change anything.
-- David
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 01:50:26 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should mixer work with CD?
CD audio is digital so if you have both analog and digital outputs on
your CDRom and CDRW then you need to have the cable going from your
sound card to the digital input of your CDRrom, not the analog.
Rob McMillin wrote:
>
> I have the RedHat Pinstripe beta installed. I'm using gtcd (1.2.0), and
> the XMixer (2.2) that ship with that release. I've got a SoundBlaster
> PCI512 (emu10k) card installed, which seems to be working correctly with
> the "play" application. I have the analog audio output of BOTH the
> CD-ROM and CD-RW drives plugged into the CD and AUX IN ports on the
> sound card.
>
> Is there something I should be doing to hear the CD through the audio
> card? So far, nothing I've tried works.
>
> Please reply directly via e-mail, as my news is a little flaky.
>
> --
> http://www.pricegrabber.com | Dog is my co-pilot.
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