Linux-Misc Digest #918, Volume #26               Thu, 25 Jan 01 17:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Re: How to use accented characters in BitchX? (GYULAI Mihaly)
  Re: FTP connect does not work in RH6.2??? (GOBACO)
  Getting the size of large files? (Steve Wampler)
  Re: How to use accented characters in BitchX? (GYULAI Mihaly)
  Re: Netware for linux? ("Jan Vandesompele")
  Re: how to listen to web radio (richard noel fell)
  Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! (Colin Watson)
  Can you use "DOS" Extended ASCII in Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  win4lin question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux not free anymore? (JCA)
  Re: GIMP Print Prob. (Steve Ackman)
  Re: How to use accented characters in BitchX? (Hugh Lawson)
  how to connect windows workstation ("thehitman")
  Re: how to connect windows workstation (William Kendrick)
  Re: Differents compilations of the 2.4 kernel.
  Re: rpm ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: x 4.0.2 problems, permissions and other (John Travis)

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From: GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use accented characters in BitchX?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:15:46 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm not familiar with BitchX, but if you are running it in X, you
> can try this:

I would rather use it on console, but thanks for the idea, it works
under X!

> xmodmap -e "keycode 78 = Multi_key"

--
GYULAI Mihaly
http://gyulai.freeyellow.com


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From: GOBACO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP connect does not work in RH6.2???
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:22:31 GMT

A friend helped me solve the problem.  It appears I did not have PAM
(Pluggable Access Module) installed for FTP.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And don't forget to send SIGHUP to inetd.
>
> William Rhodes wrote:
>
> > I hate to mention this, but have you looked at your /etc/shells
file?  If you are
> > using tcsh, for example, then you'll need to add it to your shells
file in order to
> > be able to ftp into the machine.  Either that or chsh to one of the
shells that are
> > listed.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > -B
> >
> > Bill Tangren wrote:
> >
> > > ditto. It doesn't work for me either (though I have RH 7). The
troubling thing
> > > for me is that I have 3 linux boxes, and ftp doesn't work on only
one of them.
> > > I can't figure out why.
> > >
> > > Bill Tangren
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > In article <92tl05$n32$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GOBACO <mkgobaco@my-
deja.com> writes:
> > >
> > > >i have the same problem.  i followed the hosts.allow and
hosts.deny
> > > >settings and it still didn't work.
> > > >
> > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > >  Stephane Montpetit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> Check your /etc/hosts.allow  and /etc/hosts.deny files.
> > > >> Must have these:
> > > >>
> > > >> hosts.deny:
> > > >>
> > > >> ALL: ALL
> > > >>
> > > >> hosts.allow:
> > > >>
> > > >> ALL: 127.0.0.1
> > > >> ALL: 192.168.0.
> > > >> in.ftpd: ALL
> > > >>
> > > >> If you want to be able to telnet your Linux box from anywhere
on
> > > >> internet, you can add:
> > > >> in.telnetd: ALL    in your hosts.allow file.
> > > >>
> > > >> You can e-mail me if you need any help.
> > > >>
> > > >> Happy new year!!!!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >> Bo Berglund a �crit :
> > > >>
> > > >> > I have just installed RH 6.2 workstation and I am testing it
out
> > > >from
> > > >> > a Win NT box over the internal LAN.
> > > >> > I can get Telnet login to work, but whatever I do when I try
FTP I
> > > >> > don't get connected.
> > > >> > I am using Ws_Ftp32 on my NT machine and as soon as I click
the
> > > >> > connect button there is a lot of disk activity on the Linux
machine
> > > >> > but eventually there is no connect.... :-(
> > > >> > Here is the log from Ws_Ftp32:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0
> > > >> > WS_FTP95 LE 4.50 97.05.17, Copyright � 1992-1997 Ipswitch,
Inc.
> > > >> > - -
> > > >> > connecting to 192.168.0.1 ...
> > > >> > Connected to 192.168.0.1 port 21
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ! Connection failed
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have checked that ftp is switched on in inetd.conf, but
where can
> > > >I
> > > >> > set up permissions and such (if that is what is failing)???
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bo Berglund
> > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Sent via Deja.com
> > > >http://www.deja.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Bill Tangren
> > > U.S.Naval Observatory
>
>


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From: Steve Wampler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting the size of large files?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:04 -0700


Does anyone have a way (from C/C++) under Linux 2.4.0/
glibc 2.1 to get the size for large raw devices (oh,
say, 32GB in size)?

When compiled using LFS, lseek(...) *almost* works - it
fails when the file is a raw device (such as a raw device
bound to a disk partition).  With a raw device

    lseek(f, (fpos_t)0, SEEK_END)

returns (off_t)0.

Any pointers appreciated.

Thanks!

--
Steve Wampler-  SOLIS Project, National Solar Observatory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use accented characters in BitchX?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:33:24 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marijan Peh) wrote:

> If he think on characters like this '����' (u need ISO-8859-2 font
> to see this properly);

I also need iso-8859-2 characters on console and inside programs!

> then it's not feature of BitchX: it's dependent on font you use in
> xterm or in console (eg. don't have right encoding).

On console I can read and type accented characters: on bash shell,
in Mutt, in Lynx, in JOE...

But... I tried it in EPIC (another IRC client), and it shows accented
characters! (but I don't like using it... :)

So, the character-showing problem lays in BitchX.
(and in 'ninja', which is another IRC client...)

When I try to type accented char in these IRC client programs,
something else is produced (it looks like another char...).

Don't you have more ideas?

--
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http://gyulai.freeyellow.com


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From: "Jan Vandesompele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netware for linux?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:50:16 GMT

Thanx Dudes!



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From: richard noel fell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to listen to web radio
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:02:08 -0500

Aha, so that is what was missing. I tried xmms, but find no man pages. Is there
a help page somewhere?
Thanks,
Dick Fell


Steve Ackman wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:16:54 -0500, richard noel fell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am using redhat 7, have sound configured correctly and would like to
> >listen to web radio. Is this possible? I have been unable to get any
> >connection so far when going to a web site that is broadcasting.
>
>   I've used xmms to that end... but you never say what app
> you're trying to use for web radio.
>
> --
> Steve Ackman
> http://twovoyagers.com
> Registered Linux User #79430


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: 25 Jan 2001 20:58:00 GMT

Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Hasler wrote:
>> Arctic Storm wrote:
>> > There are a few tips here and there on upgrading the kernel in general,
>> > but nothing specific for 2.4.  I'm talking about the proverbial "Idiot's
>> > Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4 Upgrade."
>>
>> Why do idiots need to upgrade to 2.4 now?
>
>Ironically, although you may know slightly more about Linux than I do, I
>seem to have greater insight and better understanding of the spirit of
>Linux.  Let me explain to you.  The intension of Linux is to provide a
>reliable/dependable product for productivity and utility, for *everyone*; to
>help and serve the general public.

Anybody who's used, for example, John's ppp packages for Debian will see
just how much he's done to make a reliable product that the general
public can use: an awful lot. I doubt he needs lectures about it.

Think about John's point a little more. 2.4.0 may be, technically, a
"stable" kernel, but the general consensus among 2.2 users was
frequently that 2.2 didn't really become stable until 2.2.10 or so.
There are still plenty of bugs in 2.4.0 - it's only a couple of months
since it was eating filesystems on a fairly regular basis, after all.
People who can't figure out the simple instructions in
Documentation/Changes are unlikely to be able to track down and report
bugs in the kernel, and what Linux 2.4 really needs now is people who
can help to sort out the remaining bugs. The average user, honestly, is
better off sticking to 2.2.18 or the forthcoming 2.2.19 for now,
especially if their distribution's support for 2.4 is weak. If you want
a stable, working operating system, stable distributions are the way to
go; if you want an unstable operating system, well, nobody will make it
intentionally difficult for you to do so, but actively encouraging
everyone to do so actually ends up being counterproductive.

With regard to your lecture: sure, one of the purposes of Linux is to
provide everyone with a free, reliable, and powerful operating system.
Another is to provide a platform that's as comfortable as possible for
developers. Another is because it's interesting and fun. If you think
it's just about 'keeping the customers happy', then I think you're
glorifying the "spirit of Linux" somewhat; that's one of the nice
effects, certainly, but I don't think it's ever been the driving force.
All of these things are bidirectional, too. Rather than saying that
other people should provide everything, if you think there should be a
mini-HOWTO on upgrading, say, Red Hat 6.2 to be able to support kernel
2.4, then why not try it yourself and write down what you did? Sharing
of information goes both ways, and I'm sure people would thank you for
it.

>> Here is a complete set of easy-to-understand instructions:
>> Hire an expert to do it for you.
>
>I will represent the Linux community and tell you that *information* and
>*knowledge* regarding Linux is *free*, and will remain so with or without
>the upgrade.  It's reasonable to pay & charge for time/service for setup of
>a computer system.  However, not for the information & knowledge.  Sharing
>of knowledeg is free and is encouraged in Linux.

Of course it's free (I'm guessing John was being at least a little
sarcastic, not wanting to put words into his mouth). In any case, notice
that the above says "do it for you", not "tell you how to do it".
Anyway, yes, sharing is good, but give and take is also encouraged. If
people always take, and sound aggrieved that no-one has written the
document they want on quite a large topic rather than asking for help on
something specific, then eventually people will indeed start suggesting
that you might have an easier time of it if you get an expert to give
you hands-on assistance - whether that involves money or not.

Anyway, enough talk about the spirit of Linux. I'm off down the pub to
sample some spirit of Ireland.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"There is perhaps in every thing of any consequence, secret history,
 which it would be amusing to know, could we have it authentically
 communicated." - James Boswell

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can you use "DOS" Extended ASCII in Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:51:25 GMT

OK,
First off, I have read the man pages for ascii, iso_8859_1 (section 7
on both).  I've looked up information on setlocale.  And looked up
information on the setfont and consolechars programs in Linux.

My background is, I am porting an old legacy application from SCO/pSOS
to Linux.  It will only be run in Linux.  And it will only run in US
English.  We do our language conversions internally.

What I need is the 7-bit ASCII with the extended ascii that is
available in dos, etc.  The main thing I need is the borders and bars
that are 179-215 in the DOS extended ASCII.  Right now when I print chr
(205) I get "GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU".  I'd rather do this OS
conversion with as little changes to our proprietary code as possible.

Is there any way I can use the old extended ascii in linux?  If there
is, do I need to do it with setlocal or setfont.  And what font do I
need to set it to.

Any help here would be great.

Thanks,
Adam Oldham


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: win4lin question
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:08:51 GMT

Hello ...

I have a question about win4lin.  It looks interesting, but I am curious ->
I already have Win98 installed on a dual boot.  Can I just use this in
the install of win4lin (IE can the win4lin app use my windows files from
my FAT32 mount of my C: directory (/winC)) or do I have to re-install the
Windows files into my Linux partiton.

Thanks.

-- 
    Jeff Gentry  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
           SEX           DRUGS           UNIX

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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:12:18 -0800


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >>>>> "JCA" == JCA  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>     JCA> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>     >> but one thing bugs me about all this: so if the commies are
>     >> still in power and doing commie things, what was all that 1989
>     >> stuff?
>
>     JCA>     Are you so gullible that you think all the people that
>     JCA> were in positions of power and social influence in the former
>     JCA> Iron Curtain countries have been brushed aside for good? Or
>     JCA> to believe that whole generations that have been subjected to
>     JCA> relentless indoctrination are going to change their ways just
>     JCA> like that?
>
> are you so gullible that you think that NO COMMIES reached the highest
> levels of gummint in america?  are you so gullible that you believe
> that they DID NOT cover their tracks, making it seem as if your
> 'mmurican heritage was unsullied when in fact, it was riddled through
> and through with goddam commie rats?  sheesh, wake up.


     What has this rambling got to do with anything? Are you serious, or
just
trying to make some noise?




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: GIMP Print Prob.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:54:50 -0500

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:55:26 -0500, Cubic Meter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Steve Ackman wrote:

>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:07:29 -0500, Cubic Meter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >Every time I try to print an image from GIMP, I get page after page of
>> >"S8W-!" 

>>   Does this problem only exist in GIMP, or does it also occur
>> in other apps... Netscape, for instance.
>>   Have you successfully printed the test pages from printtool?

> Every other app I print from works fine, and the test print tool works 
>fine too. It is only in GIMP. It is driving me nuts. Thanks.

  Printing works just fine for me, without any kind of config
or anything.  I simply click the default "file" to "lp" and 
click "Print" and it does.  (This is in GIMP's Print 2.02)

  I'd run GIMP from an xterm, print something, and see what kind 
of messages GIMP spits to the xterm.  That should hopefully give 
a direction to look.

-- 
Steve Ackman                            
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Subject: Re: How to use accented characters in BitchX?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:59:10 GMT

In article <94q1h6$25u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GYULAI Mihaly wrote:

>I would rather use it on console, but thanks for the idea, it works
>under X!
>
>> xmodmap -e "keycode 78 = Multi_key"

Study the loadkeys command, which in the console does what xmodmap does in
X.  In the console, my ScrollLock is keycode 70.  You do need the read man
page.  If you issue the loadkeys command with no options, it takes its
data from standard input.  So, you can type in:

keycode 70=Compose

End the input with Control-d.  I am in the console now and 

ScrollLock ' a produces �

This might work. Note that the keycodes in the console are different from
X.  The program 'showkey' will let you see the keycode of a desired
key. Read the man page; it works differently from 'xev'.  Good luck.

-- 
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "thehitman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to connect windows workstation
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:21:10 -0000

hi
I am pretty new to linux and am enjoying the experience. But I have a
problem I want to connect my 2 windows workstations via Linux on my server.
I triple boot 3 operating systems and have internet connection sharing on
both win 2k and win me but I have yet to figure out how i can do this with
Linux. i have heard that you can sort this wiht a program called samba if
someone could help I would be eternally grateful.
thankyou



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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to connect windows workstation
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:29:43 GMT

thehitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: both win 2k and win me but I have yet to figure out how i can do this with
: Linux. i have heard that you can sort this wiht a program called samba if
: someone could help I would be eternally grateful.

Yes, Samba is an SMB server tool for Linux.  It's probably already installed,
depending on your distro.  (You may have chosen to NOT install it from your
install CD's, though.. but they should be there and easy to get to.)

For details, see Samba.org.  Doing some searches on the web will no doubt
find a LOT of info on it.

If there's a Linux users group (LUG) in your area, that would be a very
useful resource too.  (For example, my LUG recently had Jeremy Allison,
one of Samba's two core developers, come talk at one of our meetings!
Also, I had some questions about SMBFS (accessing NT from Linux)... I posted
my questions on my LUG's mailing list, and got answers within minutes. :) )

Good luck!

-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Differents compilations of the 2.4 kernel.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:29:59 GMT

Il Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:05:14 -0600, 
Jeremy N. Surma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scrisse:

>Just rename the kernel and add an entry to /etc/lilo.conf like:
>
>image=/boot/vmlinuz2.4-jfs
>    label=jfs
>    read-only
>    root=/dev/hda5 (or whatever it is)
>
>and run /sbin/lilo
>
>Then when you restart hit [Tab} at the boot:  prompt to see all the kernels
>you can use.  type one in and hit [Enter} and you're off and hopefully (if
>you compiled it right that is) and running. :-)

I think you also have to copy each kernel's 
System.map file to the /boot dir  with the 
appropriate name:

e.g. :

vmlinuz-2.4jfs and System.map-2.4jfs 
vmlinuz-2.4rfs and System.map-2.4rfs

--
Tae Kyon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rpm
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:15:36 GMT

This is great information for getting me started.  Thanks

Does  make clean  or  make depend  mean anything to anyone?  In my
notes from when the old admin left I have that after running the rpm
command I need to go in to the src directory, then bzip the file, then
untar it, then run make clean, etc.   Obviously my notes aren't very
good, but what does make do and when do I use it?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <94pidf$imq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >My Linux administrator left.  I need to put on an rpm file.  Where
can
> >I find a 'How-to' on doing this?
>
> look for RPM-HOWTO on your system, or on the web.
>
> --
> Hugh Lawson
> Greensboro, North Carolina
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Travis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: x 4.0.2 problems, permissions and other
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:40:16 GMT

And max barwell spoke unto the masses...
:i cannot run X as a user, someone told me to edit /etc/X11Xwrapper.config
:so that it does not say alloweduser = rootonly, but they did not specify
:what to change it to and said that it was not a secure way to do it. they
:went on to say, install a display manager so i installed gdm and i can
:use X as a user now but i hate graphical login ; (
:my other weird problem is that if i start X, all text is gone and icons
:etc are just grey shapes, if i switch to a console with ctl-alt-f1 and
:back with ctl-alt-f7 it is fixed and runs really well. i have heard this
:is a problem with my chipset (sis6326), but X 4.0.1 was fine. this is
:very annoying. any ideas for either problem greatly appreciated.
:
:setup is debian 2.2r2, testing, 2.2.18, sis6326 agp 8MB, p2400, 128MB
:ram.
:
:cheers max

I've heard of the chipset problem, but sorry I don't suffer from it, so I
haven't investigated a fix :-(.  As to the other thing set Xwrapper to "console"
if you just want to run manual X sessions.

HTH,

jt
-- 
Debian Gnu/Linux [Sid]
2.4.1-pre9|XFree4.0.2|Nvidia .96 drivers
You mean there's a stable tree?


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