Linux-Misc Digest #918, Volume #27 Mon, 21 May 01 20:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Looking for a GUI telnet (Bob Hauck)
Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file? (James Knott)
Re: xosview (Michael Heiming)
Re: Star Office -- I give up ("Christopher R. Carlen")
Re: StarCraft under Linux (Kwan Lowe)
RH 7.1 - lost panel in gnome! (Stan)
Re: HP-Deskjet 960c?? (Dave Uhring)
Re: Advantage of UltraDMA100 (Dave Uhring)
Re: error on compiling qt-2.3.0 (Dave Uhring)
Re: Star Office -- I give up (Dave Uhring)
core dumped ("Micha� Russak")
VPN - Why PPP ("Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO")
ANNC: "Agendaroids" for Agenda (William Kendrick)
linux and Visor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux-users' daft mentality (GKnight)
Re: linuxconf 7.1 (Pete Barnwell)
Re: VPN - Why PPP (Hartmann Schaffer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Looking for a GUI telnet
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:31:42 GMT
On 21 May 2001 12:11:11 GMT, Dan Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was shocked to see just how much faster than ReflectionX VNC
>was.
Your mileage varies, I guess. WinAXE in full-screen mode is faster than VNC
here, over 100 Mbit ethernet.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:57:15 GMT
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > Mladen Gogala wrote:
> >>
> >> Voila! Mkisofs is installed into /usr/local/bin. Make sure that you do
> >> not burn copyrighted music to your CDs as it is bad for your soul and
> >> for the recording industry profits.
> >
> > FWIW, Canadians can now legally copy copyrighted music, for their own
> > use.
> > The copyright owners get reimbersed through a levy the government
> > slapped
> > on blank CDs, audio cassettes etc.
>
> That's appauling. People should not have to pay a levy for backups and
> people should not pay a levy on data CDs.
I agree. And since I'm not the type to copy copyright material, I get
charged for someone else's copying.
That's government for you, though I understand it's far worse over in
Germany, with taxes on things like photo copiers, fax machines,
computers that can do multimedia etc.
I wonder how much of that money actually gets to the artists? It
reminds me of the "tire tax" placed on new tires sold in Ontario. This
tax was supposed to pay for proper disposal of used tires. It's been in
place for over 10 years, but as far as I can tell, not a nickle of it
has been spent on proper tire disposal. Then there are the gas taxes
and licence fees, that far exceed what the government spends on roads.
Yet they claim we have to have toll roads, because the government
doesn't have the money to pay for them. This after telling us for years
that we had higher gas taxes, because we didn't have road tolls.
--
Replies sent via e-mail to this address will be promptly ignored.
To reply, replace everything to the left of "@" with "james.knott".
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:32:24 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xosview
Shirish wrote:
>
> Has anyone used xosview, specifically the disk usage meter. I am trying to
> figure out if the disk throughput reported is the total of all the disks
> (SCSI's, IDE's) on your server or an average per disk. Is there any other
> tool to read disk throughput? Any help's appreciated. thanks,
>
> -s
I would suggest using hdparm to test your hd, it works
with IDE & SCSI and can do much more for you.
"man hdparm" for more info.
Another alternative would be using vmstat.
Michael Heiming
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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office -- I give up
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:36:00 -0700
Jerry Kreps wrote:
> > 1. In Draw, I changed the zoom factor using the View menu, the
> > rulers failed to rescale and then broke. Passing the mouse over the
> > rulers caused them to rescale, but they no longer had cursors to
> > track the mouse position. Selecting an object also failed to produce
> > the tick marks on the ruler. Closing and opening the drawing fixed
> > this. It hasn't happened again.
>
> Works ok for me.
I haven't been noticed this quirk happen a second time.
> >
> > 2. Numerous crashes, SO just says that some unrecoverable error has
> > happened, and vanishes. Fortunately this hasn't corrupted any files,
> > but it is too frequent an occurrence for "professional" software. It
> > happens every 5-10 minutes or so with hard use.
>
> My SO 5.2 setup on SuSE 7.1 has not crashed once, yet. [snip]
> In MY experience frequent crashing of GUI apps, especially complex
> ones like SO 5.2, are due to poor xserver setups.
> JLK
The following sequence produces an unrecoverable error which shuts
down SO52:
Note: this sequence assumes that presently one of two printers is
configured,
"HP LaserJet 4 Plus" or "Generic Printer", although probably this is
irrelevant.
What is relevant is that whatever printer is presently configured before
using
"Printer Setup", that a different printer is chosen in the following
steps.
Also it is assumed that one had previously used the Printer Setup (icon,
not
File|Printer Setup...) and selected the "Save settings locally" option.
Launch SO52 using the desktop or whatever method.
Open a new text document.
Type some text.
Make the text document window smaller to have access to the Printer
Setup
icon.
Launch Printer Setup.
>From the "Existing printer drivers" select a printer other than the one
presently configured.
Click "Add new printer"
Click "Make default printer" to make the newly added printer the
default.
Click the previous printer to highlight it, then click Remove. Yes.
Click Close.
Click the "Untitled1" window to make it active.
Click File|Print|Ok
At this point the "An unrecoverable error has occurred" dialog should
appear.
The console from which X was startx-ed shows:
"could not open the printer HP LaserJet 4 Plus
""
""
Your printer installation might be wrong.
Please check environment variable XPPATH."
The printer name in the above error is the name of the printer that was
previously configured, before using Printer Setup to add a new printer,
and
remove the previous one.
Irregardless of whether one thinks a user should or shouldn't do the
sequence of actions described, if an application crashes upon some
sequence of user actions, then it is a bug.
What made me very intent on giving up with SO last week was that this
printer config crashing issue was blending with some other quirks, in a
statistically improbable scenario of simultaneous realization of
multiple bugs/quirks. One of the bugs in fact was not the fault of SO,
rather, the PS viewer has some problem in KDE2, particularly when
invoked by Konqueror. This quirk/bug has been confirmed by another guy
who responded to me by email from the suse-linux-e mailing list. This
issue I will work on in time, as for now I am using gv or ghostview, as
a workaround.
_______________________
Christopher R. Carlen
Sr. Laser/Optical Tech.
Sandia National Labs
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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarCraft under Linux
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:43:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> After installing wine, I want to give it a test.
> I then go for starcraft. The world is not perfect...
> First, I cannot find the 'install.exe' in CD, instead, I run
> the 'autorun.exe'. It looks good when the menu screen pop up.
> When I press the 'Install' button, errors are given back:
Do a search for Starcraft Linux and Wine on google for other tips on getting
Starcraft to run. I recently installed it and found it very playable for single
user.
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From: Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: RH 7.1 - lost panel in gnome!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:58:45 -0400
Hi!
I installed Red Hat linux 7.1 a couple of weeks ago and everything
worked great until I decided to install Mozilla 0.9. The install
finished, but I get segmentation error when trying to run it.
So I decided to reboot the machine, it came up and I logged in, but upon
starting gnome, I got an error stating something about "panel crashed",
and I just kept getting the error over and over again (the panel never
appeared) until I did Alt+Ctrl+Backsp to exit out of gnome. When I try
to start gnome again, I get no error, but the panel is not there and
file manager (the only window that opens) is missing the title bar. The
only way to exit is Alt+Ctrl+Backsp, and that's all I can do.
What can I do to fix it? Any suggestions?
Thanx in advance,
Stan
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP-Deskjet 960c??
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:06:27 -0500
Ish Rattan wrote:
> Mandrake-8.0 system, just added hp-desjet-960cse printer.
> It is detected as Winbond printer? Is it a "windows" printer?
> I am having difficulty printing to it.
>
> - ishwar
>
Doesn't look like a win-printer:
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=635698
If you knew where to look, you wouldn't have to ask. The Linux
Documentation Project has almost any answer to your questions in the
HOWTO's, which BTW are also probably installed on your system under
/usr/doc or /usr/share/doc.
You can find the LDP by asking for 'linux documentation project" on
google.com.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advantage of UltraDMA100
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:12:08 -0500
David Miller wrote:
> I just upgraded my motherboard, processor, etc... and reloaded linux. I
> thought I had attached my drives to the UltraDMA100 controller but I did
> not, they are on the standard IDE controller. So now I'm wondering, is
> it worth it to move my drives over to the UltraDMA100 controller? I have
> a my system drive (ultraDMA33) and two data drives (both UltraDMA66).
> Will I notice a performance increase?
>
> A followup to the above; I tried to move the drives over to the DMA100
> controller but the system stopped on the drive detection part of the
> bootup (it found linux on what I assume was /dev/hde). Is LILO the only
> thing I need to modify?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
>
# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.19 seconds =107.56 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.91 seconds = 33.51 MB/sec
System is MSI K7T Pro 2A with IBM-DTLA-307045 HDD.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: error on compiling qt-2.3.0
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:22:17 -0500
Goophy wrote:
> you're right
> it works if i turn off the xft feature...
> but I want to use it.
> which libraries and which version do i need to compile it?
>
Check the mail archives at www.trolltech.com. You have to edit a header
file and move an #ENDIF statement.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office -- I give up
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:26:10 -0500
Christopher R. Carlen wrote:
> Jerry Kreps wrote:
>> > 1. In Draw, I changed the zoom factor using the View menu, the
>> > rulers failed to rescale and then broke. Passing the mouse over the
>> > rulers caused them to rescale, but they no longer had cursors to
>> > track the mouse position. Selecting an object also failed to produce
>> > the tick marks on the ruler. Closing and opening the drawing fixed
>> > this. It hasn't happened again.
>>
>> Works ok for me.
>
> I haven't been noticed this quirk happen a second time.
>
>> >
>> > 2. Numerous crashes, SO just says that some unrecoverable error has
>> > happened, and vanishes. Fortunately this hasn't corrupted any files,
>> > but it is too frequent an occurrence for "professional" software. It
>> > happens every 5-10 minutes or so with hard use.
>>
>> My SO 5.2 setup on SuSE 7.1 has not crashed once, yet. [snip]
>> In MY experience frequent crashing of GUI apps, especially complex
>> ones like SO 5.2, are due to poor xserver setups.
>> JLK
>
> The following sequence produces an unrecoverable error which shuts
> down SO52:
>
> Note: this sequence assumes that presently one of two printers is
> configured,
> "HP LaserJet 4 Plus" or "Generic Printer", although probably this is
> irrelevant.
> What is relevant is that whatever printer is presently configured before
> using
> "Printer Setup", that a different printer is chosen in the following
> steps.
>
> Also it is assumed that one had previously used the Printer Setup (icon,
> not
> File|Printer Setup...) and selected the "Save settings locally" option.
>
> Launch SO52 using the desktop or whatever method.
> Open a new text document.
> Type some text.
> Make the text document window smaller to have access to the Printer
> Setup
> icon.
> Launch Printer Setup.
> From the "Existing printer drivers" select a printer other than the one
> presently configured.
> Click "Add new printer"
> Click "Make default printer" to make the newly added printer the
> default.
> Click the previous printer to highlight it, then click Remove. Yes.
> Click Close.
> Click the "Untitled1" window to make it active.
> Click File|Print|Ok
>
> At this point the "An unrecoverable error has occurred" dialog should
> appear.
>
> The console from which X was startx-ed shows:
>
> "could not open the printer HP LaserJet 4 Plus
> ""
> ""
> Your printer installation might be wrong.
> Please check environment variable XPPATH."
>
> The printer name in the above error is the name of the printer that was
> previously configured, before using Printer Setup to add a new printer,
> and
> remove the previous one.
>
> Irregardless of whether one thinks a user should or shouldn't do the
> sequence of actions described, if an application crashes upon some
> sequence of user actions, then it is a bug.
>
> What made me very intent on giving up with SO last week was that this
> printer config crashing issue was blending with some other quirks, in a
> statistically improbable scenario of simultaneous realization of
> multiple bugs/quirks. One of the bugs in fact was not the fault of SO,
> rather, the PS viewer has some problem in KDE2, particularly when
> invoked by Konqueror. This quirk/bug has been confirmed by another guy
> who responded to me by email from the suse-linux-e mailing list. This
> issue I will work on in time, as for now I am using gv or ghostview, as
> a workaround.
>
>
>
> _______________________
> Christopher R. Carlen
> Sr. Laser/Optical Tech.
> Sandia National Labs
>
You can configure konqueror to use gv instead of the KDE viewer. Look
under "File Associations" Do the same thing for *.pdf and change it to
acroread.
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From: "Micha� Russak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: core dumped
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:59:44 +0200
please, somebody help me.
I want to run some deamons and programs on my redhat and
i have got Memory protection fault (core dumped) message.
this occurs very often, here is some example:
[root@agon root]# proftpd
Memory protection fault (core dumped)
[root@agon root]# pine
Memory protection fault (core dumped)
[root@agon root]# etc .....
i cant even compile this programs, because this occurs during compilation!
has got someone any idea, where the problem is ?
i have bought a new memory, but the problem still occurs.
mich@el.
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From: "Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VPN - Why PPP
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:45:33 -0400
Does anyone have a good VPN solution for a Windows Client over the
internet to a server running smb behind a ipchains gateway.
I also have a general question. If we are running a SSH tunnel, what's
the pooint to opening up a PPP connection through the SSH channel?
Ruben
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ANNC: "Agendaroids" for Agenda
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:46:53 GMT
I've started creating another new game for the Linux-based Agenda VR3 PDA!
This one's a clone of the classic, vector-based arcade game "Asteroids."
(My version is vector-based, too, and uses nifty fixed-point math and
table lookups to handle trigonometric functions... so it's fast!)
For a screenshot, and to download the latest development snapshot of the
source (and a binary for your Agenda PDA, if you have one already), just
go to:
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/agendaroids/
Since it's a plain Xlib program, it runs on regular Linux- and Unix-based
computers, too. (So, you can try it even if you don't have an Agenda PDA)
-bill!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux and Visor
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:06:13 GMT
Hello,
I am using MD8.0 and have been trying to get a visor to work with it. It
has a usb cradle.
I have done a search via google, and found the howto on getting the palm
and visor to supposedly work. I followed what it told me to do, but
maybe I missed something. I still cannot get it to work. Is there
someone who can give me idea's on what to do?. I'm afraid I am not very
knowledged in linux, however I have gotten my creative webcam to work.
I seem to be getting a error that tells me it cannot access /dev/visor,
it does not show up in the menu, when looking at harddrake, I do know
that the bus is OHCI.
System: AMD k6/2-400, 196megs,6gig hardrive
OS: Mandrake 8.0
If there is any information you need to further help in a answer, please
let me know
Thanks and may GOD bless you richly
Exquisite1
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From: GKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-users' daft mentality
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:37:27 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The post below is typical of Linux-users' 'talk'.
> I guess the writer is advising:
> " search in the idle/usr/src/linux/.config file for the 'idle' string ".
>
> Why do computer users either want M$-cartoon-clicking or detailed
> key-stroke-lists ?
>
> Can't you think/plan/communicate at the level of:
> "phone John to find out when he can meet Mary, and notify her to
> expect him"; instead of: "dial XYZ and say bla.bla.....".
[snip]
hahaha ROTFLMAO
This is the funniest posting I've seen in ages!
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From: Pete Barnwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: linuxconf 7.1
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:27:07 +0100
Christian Rose wrote:
>
> Pete Barnwell wrote:
> > > I just installed rh7.1. the last rh distribution I used was rh6.2. What
> > > happened to 'linuxconf'. I need it to modify the users. Does rh7.1 have a
> > > different configuration tool?
> >
> > RH seem to have something against Linuxconf... There is a version on (I
> > think) the 1st CD but leaves a lot to be desired.
> >
> > Best bet is download 1.25r5 from www.solucorp.qc.ca
> >
> > Oh -if you need to use linuxconf from a web browser RH screwed up the
> > xinetd bit as well... if you need the fix to that let me know, it's a
> > bit more involved.
>
> Have you reported the problem?
>
> Christian
Yes -RH said there isn't a problem. (Unless they've changed their tune
in the last day or so) They originally said there was no problem, then
said there was a problem which was fixed with
xinetd-2.1.8.9pre14-9.i386.rpm (rawhide). This doesn't fix it either; it
is an improvement in that it allows a single connection once to L/C but
then refuses any more. Jacques Gelinas has a correct version of xinetd
at www.solucorp.qc.ca (xinetd-2.1.8.9pre14-9wait.i386.rpm). Follow this
link if you want more info:
http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/howto.hc?projet=linuxconf&id=52
Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: VPN - Why PPP
Date: 21 May 2001 19:55:13 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO wrote:
> ...
>I also have a general question. If we are running a SSH tunnel, what's
>the pooint to opening up a PPP connection through the SSH channel?
the vpn is pretending to be part of the local net you are connecting to.
you need a point-to-point connection to use a local address on the net you
connect to
--
hs
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